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steel cut oats
Someone here I believe mentioned steel cut oats, so I gave them a try.
They are absolutely delicious. The nutrition is exactly the same as rolled oats....100% whole oats, but the texture and taste is different...more of a nutty flavor and not quite so creamy. They have no retained water from the package so they are 2X as dense as rolled oats making each 1/4 cup (40 g)= 150 calories, but they soak up the water more so you are left with the exact same size serving as you are with rolled oats. It takes longer to cook the steel cut oats, and the easiest way to do it is to bring the oats and water to a boil (in the microwave is easiest), then just let them sit overnight. The next day, reheat to boiling and cook a couple of minutes and they are ready to go. At first the price might look more expensive, but they are often cheaper than rolled oats because you aren't paying for water and 1 cup of steel cut oats equals 2 cups of rolled oats in calories and nutrition, but not in weight of course. Popular brands are Bob's Red Mill, Hodgson Mill, McCanns, and of course Quaker, but there are several other brands. They are also called Irish oatmeal. They are just whole grain oats that have been cut into smaller size pieces...perhaps about 20 pieces per grain of oat, sort of the equivalent of cracked corn if you've ever seen that. Delicious. dkw |
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... Someone here I believe mentioned steel cut oats, so I gave them a try. They are absolutely delicious. The nutrition is exactly the same as rolled oats....100% whole oats, but the texture and taste is different...more of a nutty flavor and not quite so creamy. They have no retained water from the package so they are 2X as dense as rolled oats making each 1/4 cup (40 g)= 150 calories, but they soak up the water more so you are left with the exact same size serving as you are with rolled oats. It takes longer to cook the steel cut oats, and the easiest way to do it is to bring the oats and water to a boil (in the microwave is easiest), then just let them sit overnight. The next day, reheat to boiling and cook a couple of minutes and they are ready to go. At first the price might look more expensive, but they are often cheaper than rolled oats because you aren't paying for water and 1 cup of steel cut oats equals 2 cups of rolled oats in calories and nutrition, but not in weight of course. Popular brands are Bob's Red Mill, Hodgson Mill, McCanns, and of course Quaker, but there are several other brands. They are also called Irish oatmeal. They are just whole grain oats that have been cut into smaller size pieces...perhaps about 20 pieces per grain of oat, sort of the equivalent of cracked corn if you've ever seen that. Delicious. I love steel cut oats and when I eat oatmeal, it's almost always steel cut now. I have some old fashioned rolled oats on hand for when I don't have time to prepare steel cut. I also use the overnight soak method and usually make 4 servings at a time. I put the leftovers in individual containers and they keep well in the fridge. Each morning I add whatever I want to a serving so it's not the same thing every time. One day I might put banana in and the next I might put raisins or other dried fruit. Each groat is cut into only 2-3 pieces, not 20. You can get them cheapest in the bulk bins of health food stores. -- Liz |
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On Dec 23, 9:00*pm, "Elizabeth Blake"
wrote: wrote in message ... Someone here I believe mentioned steel cut oats, so I gave them a try. They are absolutely delicious. The nutrition is exactly the same as rolled oats....100% whole oats, but the texture and taste is different...more of a nutty flavor and not quite so creamy. They have no retained water from the package so they are 2X as dense as rolled oats making each 1/4 cup (40 g)= 150 calories, but they soak up the water more so you are left with the exact same size serving as you are with rolled oats. It takes longer to cook the steel cut oats, and the easiest way to do it is to bring the oats and water to a boil (in the microwave is easiest), then just let them sit overnight. The next day, reheat to boiling and cook a couple of minutes and they are ready to go. At first the price might look more expensive, but they are often cheaper than rolled oats because you aren't paying for water and 1 cup of steel cut oats equals 2 cups of rolled oats in calories and nutrition, but not in weight of course. Popular brands are Bob's Red Mill, Hodgson Mill, McCanns, and of course Quaker, but there are several other brands. They are also called Irish oatmeal. They are just whole grain oats that have been cut into smaller size pieces...perhaps about 20 pieces per grain of oat, sort of the equivalent of cracked corn if you've ever seen that. Delicious. I love steel cut oats and when I eat oatmeal, it's almost always steel cut now. *I have some old fashioned rolled oats on hand for when I don't have time to prepare steel cut. *I also use the overnight soak method and usually make 4 servings at a time. *I put the leftovers in individual containers and they keep well in the fridge. *Each morning I add whatever I want to a serving so it's not the same thing every time. *One day I might put banana in and the next I might put raisins or other dried fruit. Each groat is cut into only 2-3 pieces, not 20. *You can get them cheapest in the bulk bins of health food stores. -- Liz- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Thanks. Unfortunately, I will look into the bulk steel cut oats the next time I'm in San Antonio. It seems like it would be just as easy to just not do anything to the oats and leave them whole. I guess a groat means a kernal of oat. I've never seen whole non-rolled oats except in horse feed. I'm not sure why they even need to be cut at all. Heck, since rolled tastes different than steel-cut, whole oats might even taste different from the other two. I'm tempted to try the feed store. That would be the least expensive supply of oats by far. I mean Purina isn't exactly what you think of for human food, but no reason to think it would be any less safe than human food. Marketing is a huge expense. Many drug Co. make animal antibiotics (not approved for humans) much cheaper than the human variety. Nobody could convince me they are different though. Same with machinery like tractors. You could pay $7,000 for a 40 HP agricultural tractor that you could use to plow a field, but a smaller "consumer products" version of the same tractor which is lighter, smaller and you can only use to ride around and cut your estate grass costs twice as much. Farmers simply won't pay more for a small agricultural tractor. If I were back in Montana, I would just go to a farmer and buy some oats, but I've not seen any oats growing in this part of Tx. dkw |
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wrote in message ... Thanks. Unfortunately, I will look into the bulk steel cut oats the next time I'm in San Antonio. It seems like it would be just as easy to just not do anything to the oats and leave them whole. I guess a groat means a kernal of oat. I've never seen whole non-rolled oats except in horse feed. I'm not sure why they even need to be cut at all. Heck, since rolled tastes different than steel-cut, whole oats might even taste different from the other two. I'm tempted to try the feed store. That would be the least expensive supply of oats by far. I mean Purina isn't exactly what you think of for human food, but no reason to think it would be any less safe than human food. The only reason I can think of why they cut the oats is for cooking. I'm guessing water/milk/whatever might have a hard time getting inside a whole grain, but if it's cut it will cook faster. If you cook steel cut oats without soaking them overnight it can take about 40 minutes, so I'm guessing it would take a lot longer to cook whole oats. I don't think I'd buy anything from a feed store, though! I'm guessing the standards applied to animal feed (storage, number of bug parts allowed etc) might not be as strict as it is for human food. You can also look online for bulk foods. I just did a quick search to see if anyone sells whole oats, and found this place: http://www.bulkfoodpantry.com/wheat.htm 25 pounds of whole oats for $12.60, although I'm sure the shipping charge costs more than the oats. -- Liz |
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On Dec 24, 11:08*am, "Elizabeth Blake"
wrote: wrote in message ... Thanks. Unfortunately, I will look into the bulk steel cut oats the next time I'm in San Antonio. It seems like it would be just as easy to just not do anything to the oats and leave them whole. I guess a groat means a kernal of oat. I've never seen whole non-rolled oats except in horse feed. I'm not sure why they even need to be cut at all. Heck, since rolled tastes different than steel-cut, whole oats might even taste different from the other two. I'm tempted to try the feed store. That would be the least expensive supply of oats by far. I mean Purina isn't exactly what you think of for human food, but no reason to think it would be any less safe than human food. The only reason I can think of why they cut the oats is for cooking. *I'm guessing water/milk/whatever might have a hard time getting inside a whole grain, but if it's cut it will cook faster. *If you cook steel cut oats without soaking them overnight it can take about 40 minutes, so I'm guessing it would take a lot longer to cook whole oats. I don't think I'd buy anything from a feed store, though! *I'm guessing the standards applied to animal feed (storage, number of bug parts allowed etc) might not be as strict as it is for human food. You can also look online for bulk foods. *I just did a quick search to see if anyone sells whole oats, and found this place: http://www.bulkfoodpantry.com/wheat.htm 25 pounds of whole oats for $12.60, although I'm sure the shipping charge costs more than the oats. -- Liz Right. You could get them from a farmer at the going rate of about $1.25 per bushel (8 gallons). Most likely if you showed up at the right time with bags, you could get enough oats to last several years for $5. Back in Indiana I lived in a rural area that raised a lot of popcorn. There you just asked the farmer if you could glean some after the picker went through. They would all let you. What you did was go to the corners where the combine makes a turn and knocks over the corn instead of harvesting it. I never bought popcorn. I also never bought field corn for the same reason and fed 4 goats the corn, plus other stuff of course. Like I said, the price of oats is almost all marketing and middle men. Anyway, I have 8 packages of steel cut oats (17 servings each pkg.) on hand and 3 boxes of the cheapo WalMart rolled oats each with 30 servings, so I won't be needing any for a while. The Walmart rolled oats sell for 1.92 per box which is .06 per serving. Steel cuts are still very cheap, although about about 3X that much if you buy any of the brand names...more for organic. I have to laugh when people talk about how expensive it is to eat a vegetarian diet. Like anything else, you can pay for food or you can pay for hype, marketing, specialty brands, or exotic foods, but the standard vegetarian fare is not at all expensive. The hype doesn't stop with human food either. I notice the expensive samples of dog food I get at a local pet store uses oats with the claim that most other dog foods do not contain oats because they are so expensive. Ha. dkw |
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... Right. You could get them from a farmer at the going rate of about $1.25 per bushel (8 gallons). Most likely if you showed up at the right time with bags, you could get enough oats to last several years for $5. Back in Indiana I lived in a rural area that raised a lot of popcorn. There you just asked the farmer if you could glean some after the picker went through. They would all let you. What you did was go to the corners where the combine makes a turn and knocks over the corn instead of harvesting it. I never bought popcorn. I also never bought field corn for the same reason and fed 4 goats the corn, plus other stuff of course. Like I said, the price of oats is almost all marketing and middle men. Anyway, I have 8 packages of steel cut oats (17 servings each pkg.) on hand and 3 boxes of the cheapo WalMart rolled oats each with 30 servings, so I won't be needing any for a while. The Walmart rolled oats sell for 1.92 per box which is .06 per serving. Steel cuts are still very cheap, although about about 3X that much if you buy any of the brand names...more for organic. I have to laugh when people talk about how expensive it is to eat a vegetarian diet. Like anything else, you can pay for food or you can pay for hype, marketing, specialty brands, or exotic foods, but the standard vegetarian fare is not at all expensive. The hype doesn't stop with human food either. I notice the expensive samples of dog food I get at a local pet store uses oats with the claim that most other dog foods do not contain oats because they are so expensive. Ha. dkw I'm in NYC so there are no local farms for me to buy oats or other food from directly. There's also no WalMart. I can get steel cut oats from the health food stores for about $1-$1.30/pound. Sure, they're cheaper out there somewhere but for NYC that's a good deal, and much cheaper than buying the fancy tin of McCann's Irish Oatmeal. Since I don't buy rolled oats often I'm not sure what they cost but they're usually cheaper than steel cut, which is odd. I think the rolled oats, at least the instant & quick cooking (the stuff that cooks in about 5 minutes) are partially cooked/steamed before they're rolled, which is why you can prepare them quickly in the morning for breakfast. Seems like more steps are involved in making rolled oats and those should cost more. When you buy stuff in the supermarket you're also pay a whole lot of money for packaging. The McCann's steel cut oats that come in a fancy tin are no different than the oats in the bulk bin or a cardboard box, but the stuff in the tin costs about $6 here. You can get a whole lot of aots in a plastic bag at the health food store for that same $6, and put it in your own tin at home. I store all of my bulk items in Lock & Lock boxes. Nothing has ever spoiled in those. -- Liz |
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On Dec 26, 9:16*pm, "Elizabeth Blake"
wrote: wrote in message ... Right. You could get them from a farmer at the going rate of about $1.25 per bushel (8 gallons). Most likely if you showed up at the right time with bags, you could get enough oats to last several years for $5. Back in Indiana I lived in a rural area that raised a lot of popcorn. There you just asked the farmer if you could glean some after the picker went through. They would all let you. What you did was go to the corners where the combine makes a turn and knocks over the corn instead of harvesting it. I never bought popcorn. I also never bought field corn for the same reason and fed 4 goats the corn, plus other stuff of course. Like I said, the price of oats is almost all marketing and middle men. Anyway, I have 8 packages of steel cut oats (17 servings each pkg.) on hand and 3 boxes of the cheapo WalMart rolled oats each with 30 servings, so I won't be needing any for a while. The Walmart rolled oats sell for 1.92 per box which is .06 per serving. Steel cuts are still very cheap, although about about 3X that much if you buy any of the brand names...more for organic. I have to laugh when people talk about how expensive it is to eat a vegetarian diet. Like anything else, you can pay for food or you can pay for hype, marketing, specialty brands, or exotic foods, but the standard vegetarian fare is not at all expensive. The hype doesn't stop with human food either. I notice the expensive samples of dog food I get at a local pet store uses oats with the claim that most other dog foods do not contain oats because they are so expensive. Ha. dkw I'm in NYC so there are no local farms for me to buy oats or other food from directly. *There's also no WalMart. *I can get steel cut oats from the health food stores for about $1-$1.30/pound. *Sure, they're cheaper out there somewhere but for NYC that's a good deal, and much cheaper than buying the fancy tin of McCann's Irish Oatmeal. *Since I don't buy rolled oats often I'm not sure what they cost but they're usually cheaper than steel cut, which is odd. *I think the rolled oats, at least the instant & quick cooking (the stuff that cooks in about 5 minutes) are partially cooked/steamed before they're rolled, which is why you can prepare them quickly in the morning for breakfast. *Seems like more steps are involved in making rolled oats and those should cost more. When you buy stuff in the supermarket you're also pay a whole lot of money for packaging. *The McCann's steel cut oats that come in a fancy tin are no different than the oats in the bulk bin or a cardboard box, but the stuff in the tin costs about $6 here. *You can get a whole lot of aots in a plastic bag at the health food store for that same $6, and put it in your own tin at home. *I store all of my bulk items in Lock & Lock boxes. *Nothing has ever spoiled in those. -- Liz- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Rolled oats are cheaper than steel cut oats because rolled oats contain much more water. That is why a serving size of rolled is 1/2 cup and a serving of steel cut is 1/4 cup...dry in both cases and both serving sizes are 150 cal of oats. In fact, rolling oats really means cooking them, then rolling them a couple of times. They are still whole oat, but the texture and taste does seem to change as compared to when you cook them at home. dkw |
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On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 00:16:04 -0500, Elizabeth Blake wrote:
When you buy stuff in the supermarket you're also pay a whole lot of money for packaging. The McCann's steel cut oats that come in a fancy tin are no different than the oats in the bulk bin or a cardboard box, but the stuff in the tin costs about $6 here. You can get a whole lot of aots in a plastic bag at the health food store for that same $6, and put it in your own tin at home. I store all of my bulk items in Lock & Lock boxes. Nothing has ever spoiled in those. The first time I bought steel cut oats, I did buy the McCann's... because I liked the look of the fancy tin and figured I could re-use it for storage. But since then, I buy at a much lower price at my health food store. I think they cost like $1.02 per pound. I wouldn't say they are identical, the McCann's definitely is more uniform in cut, but otherwise, for nutrition and taste... no difference really. I keep both the steel cut and rolled on hand... the rolled are a little quicker to fix if I'm pressed on time and they also go nicely into smoothies. -- Cynthia 262/228.8/152 |
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"Cynthia P" wrote in message
.. . The first time I bought steel cut oats, I did buy the McCann's... because I liked the look of the fancy tin and figured I could re-use it for storage. I've tought about buying McCann's for the same reason, just to get the tin. I have tons of storage containers and keep all of my bulk items in Lock & Lock boxes, so I never did get the McCann's tin. I keep both the steel cut and rolled on hand... the rolled are a little quicker to fix if I'm pressed on time and they also go nicely into smoothies. I also keep rolled oats on hand for the same reason. They're also useful for other recipes. I'm not a smoothies person, since I like chewing my food, but adding oats sounds... interesting! -- Cynthia 262/228.8/152 Our stats are almost the same. I started at 268, and now 180 and my goal is 150-155. Have to remember to redo my sig after crashing my computer and losing it... -- Liz |
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