NYNY - Fred - Dec 10th

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 18:20:34 -0800, Fred wrote:


Well, I am grazing the the choc choc mini meringues right now.

And I'm munching away on my dried apple rings. Of course, I already had my hot
fudge sundae ... hours and hours ago. I looked at the mini choc chip meringues
sitting on my counter, but the bag of apple rings next to it called louder.

Ah, better discipline. I would have had a skinny cow but I was
exhausted and actually went to bed. Now doubly exhausted having
returned from an 11 mile ski trip - GREAT snow - yeah, I'm sure you've
never heard such comments regarding snow (G)

LOL! Not around here anyway. I do hear people moaning about not having any snow,
can't wait for the first one. They are always the same ones who also moan when we
get the second snow ... saying enough is enough. Some people are never happy. G

Apple rings again at my side, although I have more than enough points for several
servings of meringues. Am just not hungry at all today. And dinner was
fantastic! We ordered carryout from a local place, was one of those hectic days
(daughter finally gave birth to our newest granddaughter). I ordered grilled
salmon with a smidge of teriyaki sauce. It came with grilled veggies (which was
yellow squash, zuchini, peppers and onions) rice and salad ... I skipped over the
rice. So very filling dinner, not overly heavy pointwise - considering lunch was
scrambled eggbeaters with tons of veggies, and a big bowl of cut of fresh fruit.
I did think about the skinny cow earlier this evening, but it really didn't
interest me. It is wierd how I get sometimes.

Joyce

congratulations to you and your daughter for the new one, Lee
Joyce wrote in message
...
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 18:20:34 -0800, Fred
wrote:


Well, I am grazing the the choc choc mini meringues right now.

And I'm munching away on my dried apple rings. Of course, I already had
my hot
fudge sundae ... hours and hours ago. I looked at the mini choc chip
meringues
sitting on my counter, but the bag of apple rings next to it called
louder.

Ah, better discipline. I would have had a skinny cow but I was
exhausted and actually went to bed. Now doubly exhausted having
returned from an 11 mile ski trip - GREAT snow - yeah, I'm sure you've
never heard such comments regarding snow (G)

LOL! Not around here anyway. I do hear people moaning about not having
any snow,
can't wait for the first one. They are always the same ones who also moan
when we
get the second snow ... saying enough is enough. Some people are never
happy. G

Apple rings again at my side, although I have more than enough points for
several
servings of meringues. Am just not hungry at all today. And dinner was
fantastic! We ordered carryout from a local place, was one of those
hectic days
(daughter finally gave birth to our newest granddaughter). I ordered
grilled
salmon with a smidge of teriyaki sauce. It came with grilled veggies
(which was
yellow squash, zuchini, peppers and onions) rice and salad ... I skipped
over the
rice. So very filling dinner, not overly heavy pointwise - considering
lunch was
scrambled eggbeaters with tons of veggies, and a big bowl of cut of fresh
fruit.
I did think about the skinny cow earlier this evening, but it really
didn't
interest me. It is wierd how I get sometimes.

Joyce

Yep. And I play to Win .. But if I won all the time, it would not be as
fun probably. Still gonna getcha this week I bet.

"Fred" wrote in message
...
Remember, it's how you play (the game)

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 15:52:00 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

It ALWAYS counts when I win.

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Evil laugh was told to me too late to up the exercise today besides
exhausting was close enough anyway. But yesterday was a 25 mile bike
ride. So there will be muscle-water weight. If you win it won't
count (G)

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 22:17:13 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Evil laugh, you better ski, I am doing really well this week so far...

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
I saw something to the effect that carrots are no longer totally
forbidden on Atkins. Not as bad as they thought. I get the feeling
Atkins is trying to get more politically correct and more appealing.

I also forget popcorn.

Typing between breakfast bites as I head off to ski

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 14:11:47 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

The cherry tomatoes I get are on a little vine, and if not
refrigerated
they
are truly awesome. And glycemically a better deal than carrots.
Supposedly. I use both. The tomatoes are easier for me because
they
stay
right out there.

I forget about popcorn too, and that is a very good snack.

"Fred" wrote in message
news I don't buy tomatoes much actually but it a good idea. I should
eat
more of the baby carrots. Over the last number of years tomatoes
have
gotten blander and blander altho, cherry and now those grape size
ones
are more flavorful.

The Miss Meringues are right by me now but I did do a 26 mile
bike
ride in 40F weather.

On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 21:27:15 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

Hey I don't know if you guys have tried them, but I leave cherry
tomatoes
out in my kitchen. Tasty.

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .


On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:32:50 -0600, Joyce
wrote:

On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:08:54 -0800, Fred

wrote:



On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 11:34:18 -0600, Joyce
wrote:

On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 06:28:50 -0800, Fred

wrote:

Maybe that's where I've been also? Even after the
holidays
were
long over, those
day to day last minute outings were keeping me off
balance.
This
week, I haven't
had a single one. It's been wonderful to be able to
make
better
choices and
actually plan all meals (and snacks) accordingly. Hub
and
I
did
go
out for dinner
Monday night, a huge meal but still well planned for.
It
is
so
much easier to
work these things in when they happen OCCASSIONALLY
instead
of
daily.

That's so very true. When too many "events" happen in
one
week I
feel
it stresses the control mechanisms. No matter how well
you
choose,
at
some restaurants saucing is just going to go over the
top.
Also,
frankly, I think that my points are tight enough that
trying
to
cut
down, say lunch, does not really work. I guess I do not
like
the
"empty pit stomach" feeling at all. So I will not
reduce
lunch
too
much to accommodate a dinner. Altho, just now I got
talked
into
a
second dinner Sat night after the Friday night dinner
before
the
opera. Originally, Sat was to be sushi but a 3rd party
just
ruled
that out. I may have to rule it in with a strong
suggestion
that
there are other things on the menu!!!! I was/am
mentally
prepared
to
have fun on Fri's dinner and DESSERT (G) Oh, well, as
they
say,
LIFE
happens.

What happened to me ... one meal out is easy to choose
that
chicken,
fish,
whatever. By the third and fourth trip out, I am no
longer
interested in those
same meals - want something different and just totally
cave.
My
points are also
low enough, is too hard to reduce breakfast or lunch much
further
without cutting
one of them out totally. Sometimes breakfast does get
skipped
(today
was one of
those days) - sleep seemed so much more enticing. G If
I
try
to
reduce lunch
too much, then I've found I can not make decent decisions
at
dinner.
And I find I
still must leave some points for the evening snack. It
does
get
tough some days.
I do not envy you your double whammy week-end meals. But
as
you
say
... life
happens. And it's only 2 out of 7 days, right?

Yes, that is probably part of it, too. Temptations that
"stray"
from
the normal simply broiled or roasted or dry-sauteed fish
or
chicken.
Or desserts I will not see again for months. Leaving
oneself
famished
leading up to dinner out is no way to help control that
dinner
out.

As much as I hate to say it, there are just times that I
get
plain
tired of
broiled chicken and fish. And there are those weeks that I
seem
to
crave it, go
figure. Maybe my craving it earlier in the month was due
to
eating
too
many sweet
treats over the holidays? Do those chocolates possibly
kick
in
the
urge for even
more higher fat/calorie choices? I dunno, I only know that
this
week I
was
totally back on program and also didn't seem to have the
chocolate
cravings.

Exactly. I hope they have a tempting fish dish tonight. I
did
chocolate and other crap yesterday like there was "no
tomorrow."

Well, I did venture out to lunch yesterday - routine visit to
sonny
boys
favorite
mexican place ... found out they changed menus, owners, etc.
They
did
have a fish
dish on the menu, which I tried and it was wonderful. I
*think*
it
was
light, but
really have no way of knowing for sure - I ate about half of
the
huge
portion
(snapper with a tomato sauce). No desserts, but the chips
and
salsa
always get
me. G I've avoided the chocolate, but have a feeling
another
week
or
so and it
will be screaming my name again. sigh

Dinner was excellent. I had ahi tuna (almost sushi) with
"boulebaise"
(sp?) sauce. Which was clams and a vegetable ladden broth.
Not
much,
if any oil floating on the surface. About a glass of wine.
Salad
was
dressing on the side but the sweetpotato which I wrongly
presumed
was
thinly sliced raw as actually shredded and fried but terrific.
Braised fennel and ratatouie (more sp??)

Dessert - Chai Creme Broule (sp) and steamed chocolate pudding
cake -
WOW!!!! Probably not terrible but it was a fun night out.
so
crack
it up just that way.

As you will see elsewhere - down an even two this week
so I
have
my
cushion reinflated but I was hoping to keep it there two
weeks
in
a
row for a change (G)

My guess is that you will. Then again, it may also very
well
just
be those
normal maintenance flucuations. I still see no feasible
way
to
have
the exact
same weight each and every week. My body doesn't know
friday
from
wednesday, and
it definitely does not like to cooperate on Fridays. G

I've gotten better at accepting that but was hoping to
strive
closer
to that elusive 155 and hold just above that. But maybe a
realistic
(I'm getting closer to accepting) 157-160 is going to be
it.

Yeah, it's easy for me to say ... right? My brain accepts
and
understands this,
doesn't mean I'm thrilled when the results do show
otherwise.
And
it
still does
scare me to see those numbers creep back up - fear of them
not
coming
back down,
fear that I will just *give up* on myself or get into the
*it's
only
1
pound*
frame of mind. I said something a few weeks ago to my son,
about
putting on 3
pounds - he rolled his eyes and said *that's nothing, don't
sweat
it*.
Well, yeah
- kinda. But I had to explain to him that I'd much rather
sweat
it
when it was
only 3, cuz I know it's so much easier to allow it to
become
5,
then
10, then 15
... Best I can keep myself in the mindset to continue
tackling
things
immediately.

I think you have it right. It could become very easy to
pass
off
a
"little" gain this week and another the next..... That's
how I
regained the last time - just ignored things. Altho, now I
have
much
better knowledge of portions. Also, I guess I have better
knowledge
to try stopping the binges but it is not always working but
probably
working better than two years ago. More awareness. And
when I
do
binge, somewhere is the thought that wait, I do not want to
lose
my
fitness level which halts it earlier than days past.

Ahhhh, that old awareness thing again? I know I splurged on
some
icecream last
night - so pumped up the treadmill this morning. Awareness
at
it's
best.
And I
finally seem to be getting my legs back from pre-christmas
routine,
sure
don't
want to lose that again. I *know* I can lose a few pounds, I
don't
know
if I have
the strength to again lose a high amount. I have done a lot
of
thinking
the past
few weeks, and realized that I am my worst enemy. If I
conciously
fill
the house
up with fruit, snacks are not an issue - I automatically grab
fruit.
If
it isn't
here, I grab the wrong things and in much higher quantities.
I
do
think
snacking
or control of snacking is my major problem.

A weekend guest who is diabetic mentioned 'environment' and
that's
important - not having the wrong stuff around. Snacking on
tons
of
baby carrots would probably not be all that bad even if
unchecked.
Gummy bears, potato chips, cookies - PROBLEM (G)

Joyce

OOOO new grandgirl
!!!

"Joyce" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 18:20:34 -0800, Fred
wrote:


Well, I am grazing the the choc choc mini meringues right now.

And I'm munching away on my dried apple rings. Of course, I already had
my hot
fudge sundae ... hours and hours ago. I looked at the mini choc chip
meringues
sitting on my counter, but the bag of apple rings next to it called
louder.

Ah, better discipline. I would have had a skinny cow but I was
exhausted and actually went to bed. Now doubly exhausted having
returned from an 11 mile ski trip - GREAT snow - yeah, I'm sure you've
never heard such comments regarding snow (G)

LOL! Not around here anyway. I do hear people moaning about not having
any snow,
can't wait for the first one. They are always the same ones who also moan
when we
get the second snow ... saying enough is enough. Some people are never
happy. G

Apple rings again at my side, although I have more than enough points for
several
servings of meringues. Am just not hungry at all today. And dinner was
fantastic! We ordered carryout from a local place, was one of those
hectic days
(daughter finally gave birth to our newest granddaughter). I ordered
grilled
salmon with a smidge of teriyaki sauce. It came with grilled veggies
(which was
yellow squash, zuchini, peppers and onions) rice and salad ... I skipped
over the
rice. So very filling dinner, not overly heavy pointwise - considering
lunch was
scrambled eggbeaters with tons of veggies, and a big bowl of cut of fresh
fruit.
I did think about the skinny cow earlier this evening, but it really
didn't
interest me. It is wierd how I get sometimes.

Joyce

No bet from this side. Sorry you may win but there will be no money
changing hands

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 13:43:13 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Yep. And I play to Win .. But if I won all the time, it would not be as
fun probably. Still gonna getcha this week I bet.

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Remember, it's how you play (the game)

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 15:52:00 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

It ALWAYS counts when I win.

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Evil laugh was told to me too late to up the exercise today besides
exhausting was close enough anyway. But yesterday was a 25 mile bike
ride. So there will be muscle-water weight. If you win it won't
count (G)

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 22:17:13 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Evil laugh, you better ski, I am doing really well this week so far...

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
I saw something to the effect that carrots are no longer totally
forbidden on Atkins. Not as bad as they thought. I get the feeling
Atkins is trying to get more politically correct and more appealing.

I also forget popcorn.

Typing between breakfast bites as I head off to ski

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 14:11:47 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

The cherry tomatoes I get are on a little vine, and if not
refrigerated
they
are truly awesome. And glycemically a better deal than carrots.
Supposedly. I use both. The tomatoes are easier for me because
they
stay
right out there.

I forget about popcorn too, and that is a very good snack.

"Fred" wrote in message
news I don't buy tomatoes much actually but it a good idea. I should
eat
more of the baby carrots. Over the last number of years tomatoes
have
gotten blander and blander altho, cherry and now those grape size
ones
are more flavorful.

The Miss Meringues are right by me now but I did do a 26 mile
bike
ride in 40F weather.

On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 21:27:15 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

Hey I don't know if you guys have tried them, but I leave cherry
tomatoes
out in my kitchen. Tasty.

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .


On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:32:50 -0600, Joyce
wrote:

On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:08:54 -0800, Fred

wrote:



On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 11:34:18 -0600, Joyce
wrote:

On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 06:28:50 -0800, Fred

wrote:

Maybe that's where I've been also? Even after the
holidays
were
long over, those
day to day last minute outings were keeping me off
balance.
This
week, I haven't
had a single one. It's been wonderful to be able to
make
better
choices and
actually plan all meals (and snacks) accordingly. Hub
and
I
did
go
out for dinner
Monday night, a huge meal but still well planned for.
It
is
so
much easier to
work these things in when they happen OCCASSIONALLY
instead
of
daily.

That's so very true. When too many "events" happen in
one
week I
feel
it stresses the control mechanisms. No matter how well
you
choose,
at
some restaurants saucing is just going to go over the
top.
Also,
frankly, I think that my points are tight enough that
trying
to
cut
down, say lunch, does not really work. I guess I do not
like
the
"empty pit stomach" feeling at all. So I will not
reduce
lunch
too
much to accommodate a dinner. Altho, just now I got
talked
into
a
second dinner Sat night after the Friday night dinner
before
the
opera. Originally, Sat was to be sushi but a 3rd party
just
ruled
that out. I may have to rule it in with a strong
suggestion
that
there are other things on the menu!!!! I was/am
mentally
prepared
to
have fun on Fri's dinner and DESSERT (G) Oh, well, as
they
say,
LIFE
happens.

What happened to me ... one meal out is easy to choose
that
chicken,
fish,
whatever. By the third and fourth trip out, I am no
longer
interested in those
same meals - want something different and just totally
cave.
My
points are also
low enough, is too hard to reduce breakfast or lunch much
further
without cutting
one of them out totally. Sometimes breakfast does get
skipped
(today
was one of
those days) - sleep seemed so much more enticing. G If
I
try
to
reduce lunch
too much, then I've found I can not make decent decisions
at
dinner.
And I find I
still must leave some points for the evening snack. It
does
get
tough some days.
I do not envy you your double whammy week-end meals. But
as
you
say
... life
happens. And it's only 2 out of 7 days, right?

Yes, that is probably part of it, too. Temptations that
"stray"
from
the normal simply broiled or roasted or dry-sauteed fish
or
chicken.
Or desserts I will not see again for months. Leaving
oneself
famished
leading up to dinner out is no way to help control that
dinner
out.

As much as I hate to say it, there are just times that I
get
plain
tired of
broiled chicken and fish. And there are those weeks that I
seem
to
crave it, go
figure. Maybe my craving it earlier in the month was due
to
eating
too
many sweet
treats over the holidays? Do those chocolates possibly
kick
in
the
urge for even
more higher fat/calorie choices? I dunno, I only know that
this
week I
was
totally back on program and also didn't seem to have the
chocolate
cravings.

Exactly. I hope they have a tempting fish dish tonight. I
did
chocolate and other crap yesterday like there was "no
tomorrow."

Well, I did venture out to lunch yesterday - routine visit to
sonny
boys
favorite
mexican place ... found out they changed menus, owners, etc.
They
did
have a fish
dish on the menu, which I tried and it was wonderful. I
*think*
it
was
light, but
really have no way of knowing for sure - I ate about half of
the
huge
portion
(snapper with a tomato sauce). No desserts, but the chips
and
salsa
always get
me. G I've avoided the chocolate, but have a feeling
another
week
or
so and it
will be screaming my name again. sigh

Dinner was excellent. I had ahi tuna (almost sushi) with
"boulebaise"
(sp?) sauce. Which was clams and a vegetable ladden broth.
Not
much,
if any oil floating on the surface. About a glass of wine.
Salad
was
dressing on the side but the sweetpotato which I wrongly
presumed
was
thinly sliced raw as actually shredded and fried but terrific.
Braised fennel and ratatouie (more sp??)

Dessert - Chai Creme Broule (sp) and steamed chocolate pudding
cake -
WOW!!!! Probably not terrible but it was a fun night out.
so
crack
it up just that way.

As you will see elsewhere - down an even two this week
so I
have
my
cushion reinflated but I was hoping to keep it there two
weeks
in
a
row for a change (G)

My guess is that you will. Then again, it may also very
well
just
be those
normal maintenance flucuations. I still see no feasible
way
to
have
the exact
same weight each and every week. My body doesn't know
friday
from
wednesday, and
it definitely does not like to cooperate on Fridays. G

I've gotten better at accepting that but was hoping to
strive
closer
to that elusive 155 and hold just above that. But maybe a
realistic
(I'm getting closer to accepting) 157-160 is going to be
it.

Yeah, it's easy for me to say ... right? My brain accepts
and
understands this,
doesn't mean I'm thrilled when the results do show
otherwise.
And
it
still does
scare me to see those numbers creep back up - fear of them
not
coming
back down,
fear that I will just *give up* on myself or get into the
*it's
only
1
pound*
frame of mind. I said something a few weeks ago to my son,
about
putting on 3
pounds - he rolled his eyes and said *that's nothing, don't
sweat
it*.
Well, yeah
- kinda. But I had to explain to him that I'd much rather
sweat
it
when it was
only 3, cuz I know it's so much easier to allow it to
become
5,
then
10, then 15
... Best I can keep myself in the mindset to continue
tackling
things
immediately.

I think you have it right. It could become very easy to
pass
off
a
"little" gain this week and another the next..... That's
how I
regained the last time - just ignored things. Altho, now I
have
much
better knowledge of portions. Also, I guess I have better
knowledge
to try stopping the binges but it is not always working but
probably
working better than two years ago. More awareness. And
when I
do
binge, somewhere is the thought that wait, I do not want to
lose
my
fitness level which halts it earlier than days past.

Ahhhh, that old awareness thing again? I know I splurged on
some
icecream last
night - so pumped up the treadmill this morning. Awareness
at
it's
best.
And I
finally seem to be getting my legs back from pre-christmas
routine,
sure
don't
want to lose that again. I *know* I can lose a few pounds, I
don't
know
if I have
the strength to again lose a high amount. I have done a lot
of
thinking
the past
few weeks, and realized that I am my worst enemy. If I
conciously
fill
the house
up with fruit, snacks are not an issue - I automatically grab
fruit.
If
it isn't
here, I grab the wrong things and in much higher quantities.
I
do
think
snacking
or control of snacking is my major problem.

A weekend guest who is diabetic mentioned 'environment' and
that's
important - not having the wrong stuff around. Snacking on
tons
of
baby carrots would probably not be all that bad even if
unchecked.
Gummy bears, potato chips, cookies - PROBLEM (G)

Joyce

Eh, skip the food commentary - congrats on the NEW GRANDDAUGHTER.

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 00:46:59 -0600, Joyce wrote:

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 18:20:34 -0800, Fred wrote:


Well, I am grazing the the choc choc mini meringues right now.

And I'm munching away on my dried apple rings. Of course, I already had my hot
fudge sundae ... hours and hours ago. I looked at the mini choc chip meringues
sitting on my counter, but the bag of apple rings next to it called louder.

Ah, better discipline. I would have had a skinny cow but I was
exhausted and actually went to bed. Now doubly exhausted having
returned from an 11 mile ski trip - GREAT snow - yeah, I'm sure you've
never heard such comments regarding snow (G)

LOL! Not around here anyway. I do hear people moaning about not having any snow,
can't wait for the first one. They are always the same ones who also moan when we
get the second snow ... saying enough is enough. Some people are never happy. G

Apple rings again at my side, although I have more than enough points for several
servings of meringues. Am just not hungry at all today. And dinner was
fantastic! We ordered carryout from a local place, was one of those hectic days
(daughter finally gave birth to our newest granddaughter). I ordered grilled
salmon with a smidge of teriyaki sauce. It came with grilled veggies (which was
yellow squash, zuchini, peppers and onions) rice and salad ... I skipped over the
rice. So very filling dinner, not overly heavy pointwise - considering lunch was
scrambled eggbeaters with tons of veggies, and a big bowl of cut of fresh fruit.
I did think about the skinny cow earlier this evening, but it really didn't
interest me. It is wierd how I get sometimes.

Joyce

Oooooh congratulations on the birth of your new granddaughter! I hope mom
and daughter are doing fine?
--
Nathalie from Belgium
134.1/102.9/minigoal 99.9 Goal 68 Kg
295.6/226.9/minigoal 220.3/Goal 150 pounds
RAFL 105.3/102.9/96 Kg
232/226.9/212 lbs
"Joyce" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 18:20:34 -0800, Fred
wrote:


Well, I am grazing the the choc choc mini meringues right now.

And I'm munching away on my dried apple rings. Of course, I already had
my hot
fudge sundae ... hours and hours ago. I looked at the mini choc chip
meringues
sitting on my counter, but the bag of apple rings next to it called
louder.

Ah, better discipline. I would have had a skinny cow but I was
exhausted and actually went to bed. Now doubly exhausted having
returned from an 11 mile ski trip - GREAT snow - yeah, I'm sure you've
never heard such comments regarding snow (G)

LOL! Not around here anyway. I do hear people moaning about not having
any snow,
can't wait for the first one. They are always the same ones who also moan
when we
get the second snow ... saying enough is enough. Some people are never
happy. G

Apple rings again at my side, although I have more than enough points for
several
servings of meringues. Am just not hungry at all today. And dinner was
fantastic! We ordered carryout from a local place, was one of those
hectic days
(daughter finally gave birth to our newest granddaughter). I ordered
grilled
salmon with a smidge of teriyaki sauce. It came with grilled veggies
(which was
yellow squash, zuchini, peppers and onions) rice and salad ... I skipped
over the
rice. So very filling dinner, not overly heavy pointwise - considering
lunch was
scrambled eggbeaters with tons of veggies, and a big bowl of cut of fresh
fruit.
I did think about the skinny cow earlier this evening, but it really
didn't
interest me. It is wierd how I get sometimes.

Joyce

Hey Grandma! Congratulations on the newest member of the tribe. Hope
mom and baby are doing well.

Prairie Roots
On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 00:46:59 -0600, Joyce wrote:

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 18:20:34 -0800, Fred wrote:


Well, I am grazing the the choc choc mini meringues right now.

And I'm munching away on my dried apple rings. Of course, I already had my hot
fudge sundae ... hours and hours ago. I looked at the mini choc chip meringues
sitting on my counter, but the bag of apple rings next to it called louder.

Ah, better discipline. I would have had a skinny cow but I was
exhausted and actually went to bed. Now doubly exhausted having
returned from an 11 mile ski trip - GREAT snow - yeah, I'm sure you've
never heard such comments regarding snow (G)

LOL! Not around here anyway. I do hear people moaning about not having any snow,
can't wait for the first one. They are always the same ones who also moan when we
get the second snow ... saying enough is enough. Some people are never happy. G

Apple rings again at my side, although I have more than enough points for several
servings of meringues. Am just not hungry at all today. And dinner was
fantastic! We ordered carryout from a local place, was one of those hectic days
(daughter finally gave birth to our newest granddaughter). I ordered grilled
salmon with a smidge of teriyaki sauce. It came with grilled veggies (which was
yellow squash, zuchini, peppers and onions) rice and salad ... I skipped over the
rice. So very filling dinner, not overly heavy pointwise - considering lunch was
scrambled eggbeaters with tons of veggies, and a big bowl of cut of fresh fruit.
I did think about the skinny cow earlier this evening, but it really didn't
interest me. It is wierd how I get sometimes.

Joyce

and if you won all the time it would impair your circulation, switching
positions is good for you, Lee
Lesanne wrote in message
...
Yep. And I play to Win .. But if I won all the time, it would not be
as
fun probably. Still gonna getcha this week I bet.

"Fred" wrote in message
...
Remember, it's how you play (the game)

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 15:52:00 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

It ALWAYS counts when I win.

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Evil laugh was told to me too late to up the exercise today besides
exhausting was close enough anyway. But yesterday was a 25 mile bike
ride. So there will be muscle-water weight. If you win it won't
count (G)

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 22:17:13 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Evil laugh, you better ski, I am doing really well this week so
far...

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
I saw something to the effect that carrots are no longer totally
forbidden on Atkins. Not as bad as they thought. I get the
feeling
Atkins is trying to get more politically correct and more
appealing.

I also forget popcorn.

Typing between breakfast bites as I head off to ski

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 14:11:47 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

The cherry tomatoes I get are on a little vine, and if not
refrigerated
they
are truly awesome. And glycemically a better deal than carrots.
Supposedly. I use both. The tomatoes are easier for me because
they
stay
right out there.

I forget about popcorn too, and that is a very good snack.

"Fred" wrote in message
news I don't buy tomatoes much actually but it a good idea. I
should
eat
more of the baby carrots. Over the last number of years
tomatoes
have
gotten blander and blander altho, cherry and now those grape
size
ones
are more flavorful.

The Miss Meringues are right by me now but I did do a 26 mile
bike
ride in 40F weather.

On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 21:27:15 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

Hey I don't know if you guys have tried them, but I leave
cherry
tomatoes
out in my kitchen. Tasty.

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .


On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:32:50 -0600, Joyce
wrote:

On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:08:54 -0800, Fred

wrote:



On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 11:34:18 -0600, Joyce
wrote:

On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 06:28:50 -0800, Fred

wrote:

Maybe that's where I've been also? Even after the
holidays
were
long over, those
day to day last minute outings were keeping me off
balance.
This
week, I haven't
had a single one. It's been wonderful to be able to
make
better
choices and
actually plan all meals (and snacks) accordingly.
Hub
and
I
did
go
out for dinner
Monday night, a huge meal but still well planned for.
It
is
so
much easier to
work these things in when they happen OCCASSIONALLY
instead
of
daily.

That's so very true. When too many "events" happen in
one
week I
feel
it stresses the control mechanisms. No matter how
well
you
choose,
at
some restaurants saucing is just going to go over the
top.
Also,
frankly, I think that my points are tight enough that
trying
to
cut
down, say lunch, does not really work. I guess I do
not
like
the
"empty pit stomach" feeling at all. So I will not
reduce
lunch
too
much to accommodate a dinner. Altho, just now I got
talked
into
a
second dinner Sat night after the Friday night dinner
before
the
opera. Originally, Sat was to be sushi but a 3rd
party
just
ruled
that out. I may have to rule it in with a strong
suggestion
that
there are other things on the menu!!!! I was/am
mentally
prepared
to
have fun on Fri's dinner and DESSERT (G) Oh, well, as
they
say,
LIFE
happens.

What happened to me ... one meal out is easy to choose
that
chicken,
fish,
whatever. By the third and fourth trip out, I am no
longer
interested in those
same meals - want something different and just totally
cave.
My
points are also
low enough, is too hard to reduce breakfast or lunch
much
further
without cutting
one of them out totally. Sometimes breakfast does get
skipped
(today
was one of
those days) - sleep seemed so much more enticing. G
If
I
try
to
reduce lunch
too much, then I've found I can not make decent
decisions
at
dinner.
And I find I
still must leave some points for the evening snack. It
does
get
tough some days.
I do not envy you your double whammy week-end meals.
But
as
you
say
... life
happens. And it's only 2 out of 7 days, right?

Yes, that is probably part of it, too. Temptations that
"stray"
from
the normal simply broiled or roasted or dry-sauteed fish
or
chicken.
Or desserts I will not see again for months. Leaving
oneself
famished
leading up to dinner out is no way to help control that
dinner
out.

As much as I hate to say it, there are just times that I
get
plain
tired of
broiled chicken and fish. And there are those weeks that
I
seem
to
crave it, go
figure. Maybe my craving it earlier in the month was due
to
eating
too
many sweet
treats over the holidays? Do those chocolates possibly
kick
in
the
urge for even
more higher fat/calorie choices? I dunno, I only know
that
this
week I
was
totally back on program and also didn't seem to have the
chocolate
cravings.

Exactly. I hope they have a tempting fish dish tonight.
I
did
chocolate and other crap yesterday like there was "no
tomorrow."

Well, I did venture out to lunch yesterday - routine visit
to
sonny
boys
favorite
mexican place ... found out they changed menus, owners,
etc.
They
did
have a fish
dish on the menu, which I tried and it was wonderful. I
*think*
it
was
light, but
really have no way of knowing for sure - I ate about half
of
the
huge
portion
(snapper with a tomato sauce). No desserts, but the chips
and
salsa
always get
me. G I've avoided the chocolate, but have a feeling
another
week
or
so and it
will be screaming my name again. sigh

Dinner was excellent. I had ahi tuna (almost sushi) with
"boulebaise"
(sp?) sauce. Which was clams and a vegetable ladden broth.
Not
much,
if any oil floating on the surface. About a glass of wine.
Salad
was
dressing on the side but the sweetpotato which I wrongly
presumed
was
thinly sliced raw as actually shredded and fried but
terrific.
Braised fennel and ratatouie (more sp??)

Dessert - Chai Creme Broule (sp) and steamed chocolate
pudding
cake -
WOW!!!! Probably not terrible but it was a fun night out.
so
crack
it up just that way.

As you will see elsewhere - down an even two this week
so I
have
my
cushion reinflated but I was hoping to keep it there
two
weeks
in
a
row for a change (G)

My guess is that you will. Then again, it may also
very
well
just
be those
normal maintenance flucuations. I still see no
feasible
way
to
have
the exact
same weight each and every week. My body doesn't know
friday
from
wednesday, and
it definitely does not like to cooperate on Fridays.
G

I've gotten better at accepting that but was hoping to
strive
closer
to that elusive 155 and hold just above that. But maybe
a
realistic
(I'm getting closer to accepting) 157-160 is going to be
it.

Yeah, it's easy for me to say ... right? My brain
accepts
and
understands this,
doesn't mean I'm thrilled when the results do show
otherwise.
And
it
still does
scare me to see those numbers creep back up - fear of
them
not
coming
back down,
fear that I will just *give up* on myself or get into the
*it's
only
1
pound*
frame of mind. I said something a few weeks ago to my
son,
about
putting on 3
pounds - he rolled his eyes and said *that's nothing,
don't
sweat
it*.
Well, yeah
- kinda. But I had to explain to him that I'd much
rather
sweat
it
when it was
only 3, cuz I know it's so much easier to allow it to
become
5,
then
10, then 15
... Best I can keep myself in the mindset to continue
tackling
things
immediately.

I think you have it right. It could become very easy to
pass
off
a
"little" gain this week and another the next..... That's
how I
regained the last time - just ignored things. Altho, now
I
have
much
better knowledge of portions. Also, I guess I have better
knowledge
to try stopping the binges but it is not always working
but
probably
working better than two years ago. More awareness. And
when I
do
binge, somewhere is the thought that wait, I do not want
to
lose
my
fitness level which halts it earlier than days past.

Ahhhh, that old awareness thing again? I know I splurged
on
some
icecream last
night - so pumped up the treadmill this morning. Awareness
at
it's
best.
And I
finally seem to be getting my legs back from pre-christmas
routine,
sure
don't
want to lose that again. I *know* I can lose a few pounds,
I
don't
know
if I have
the strength to again lose a high amount. I have done a
lot
of
thinking
the past
few weeks, and realized that I am my worst enemy. If I
conciously
fill
the house
up with fruit, snacks are not an issue - I automatically
grab
fruit.
If
it isn't
here, I grab the wrong things and in much higher
quantities.
I
do
think
snacking
or control of snacking is my major problem.

A weekend guest who is diabetic mentioned 'environment' and
that's
important - not having the wrong stuff around. Snacking on
tons
of
baby carrots would probably not be all that bad even if
unchecked.
Gummy bears, potato chips, cookies - PROBLEM (G)

Joyce

Thanks Lee! It seems like we have waited forever, probably seemed even longer to
my daughter. G

Joyce

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 04:43:12 -0600, "Miss Violette"
wrote:

congratulations to you and your daughter for the new one, Lee
Joyce wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 18:20:34 -0800, Fred
wrote:


Well, I am grazing the the choc choc mini meringues right now.

And I'm munching away on my dried apple rings. Of course, I already had
my hot
fudge sundae ... hours and hours ago. I looked at the mini choc chip
meringues
sitting on my counter, but the bag of apple rings next to it called
louder.

Ah, better discipline. I would have had a skinny cow but I was
exhausted and actually went to bed. Now doubly exhausted having
returned from an 11 mile ski trip - GREAT snow - yeah, I'm sure you've
never heard such comments regarding snow (G)

LOL! Not around here anyway. I do hear people moaning about not having
any snow,
can't wait for the first one. They are always the same ones who also moan
when we
get the second snow ... saying enough is enough. Some people are never
happy. G

Apple rings again at my side, although I have more than enough points for
several
servings of meringues. Am just not hungry at all today. And dinner was
fantastic! We ordered carryout from a local place, was one of those
hectic days
(daughter finally gave birth to our newest granddaughter). I ordered
grilled
salmon with a smidge of teriyaki sauce. It came with grilled veggies
(which was
yellow squash, zuchini, peppers and onions) rice and salad ... I skipped
over the
rice. So very filling dinner, not overly heavy pointwise - considering
lunch was
scrambled eggbeaters with tons of veggies, and a big bowl of cut of fresh
fruit.
I did think about the skinny cow earlier this evening, but it really
didn't
interest me. It is wierd how I get sometimes.

Joyce