Fat burning furnace?

Hello,
you ever heard of fat burning furnace?
I found it on google today.It says that you can raise your fatburning
by some easy tricks.
On the site , there is a free presentation of some interesting points.
You think it works?Take a look here :

http://www.fatburningfurnace.com/index.php?hop=1200457

"http://tinyurl.com/yffxok7"


Sorry it didnt work before
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Ted wrote:




Sorry it didnt work before
So I had to do it as tinyurl.. sorry about that

and it won't work now or ever.
--
³When you give food to the poor, they call you a saint. When you ask why the poor have no food, they call you a communist.²
-Archbishop Helder Camara

http://tinyurl.com/o63ruj
http://countercurrents.org/roberts020709.htm

Why not?:O
If you google that one it has just good reviews.
I think I have to test it ,though.

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Ted wrote:

Why not?:O
If you google that one it has just good reviews.
I think I have to test it ,though.

As shown in Gary Taubes' book
"Good Calories, Bad Calories: Fats, Carbs, and the Controversial Science
of Diet and Health"
http://www.amazon.com/Good-Calories-...ce/dp/14000334
62/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1261360457&sr=1-1
obesity cannot be linked to calories consumed , or lack of exercise.

I suspect the OP simply wants us to visit his site so that he can record
hits to show to possible advertisers, who may be thinking about putting
ads on his site. If he has any proof, it would be just as effective to
demonstrate it here in alt.support.diet.low-carb.

If you want a list of low calorie foods, try Free List of Fat Burning
Foods
http://ezinearticles.com/?Free-List-...Foods&id=29877
--
³When you give food to the poor, they call you a saint. When you ask why the poor have no food, they call you a communist.²
-Archbishop Helder Camara

http://tinyurl.com/o63ruj
http://countercurrents.org/roberts020709.htm

On Dec 20, 9:07*pm, Wildbilly wrote:
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*Ted wrote:
Why not?:O
If you google that one it has just good reviews.
I think I have to test it ,though.

As shown in Gary Taubes' book
"Good Calories, Bad Calories: Fats, Carbs, and the Controversial Science
of Diet and Health"http://www.amazon.com/Good-Calories-Bad-Controversial-Science/dp/1400...
62/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1261360457&sr=1-1
obesity cannot be linked to calories consumed , or lack of exercise.


While I have respect for Taubes and think most of what he has to say
is correct, the above quote is the type of nonsense that the
mainstream media loves to jump on to discredit supporters of LC.
At the end of the day, of course calories consumed and lack of
excercise are linked to obesity. Did you see any pictures of obese
German concentration camp victims? How about the athletes that eat
5000 calories a day, including loads of carbs, and are at normal
weight?

Ted wrote:

you ever heard of fat burning furnace?
I found it on google today.It says that you can raise your fatburning
by some easy tricks.

Sure I've heard of it, not that I'll follow your links.

When I started Atkins in 1999 I read the instructions and wondered why
he recommends increasing carb intake to CCLL as the optimal level when
it seems so obvious that if low is good lower must be better. Yet again
and again folks who stall at 20 resume loss at higher carb intakes.
Sure enough Dr A had spent decades designing a system that works better
than what's obvious.

Once I'd gotten myself to step out in faith of the directions as written
I launched onto a hobby of figuring out the underlying science of why
lower carb works better than lowest carb and why low carb works better
than low carb.

One of the things I learned was about how fatty acids enter the Krebs
citric acid cycle and why "fat burns best in a fire of carbs". The way
the Krebs cycle works, the optimal burning rate of fatty acids is
acheived with some portion of glucose present. I was quite surprised to
find this as it coincides with the concept of the CCLL.

wrote:
Wildbilly wrote:

As shown in Gary Taubes' book
....
obesity cannot be linked to calories consumed , or lack of exercise.

While I have respect for Taubes and think most of what he has to say
is correct, the above quote is the type of nonsense that the
mainstream media loves to jump on to discredit supporters of LC.

Folks love to take stuff to extremes as a why to ignore what the data
actually says. The data isn't as clear as Taubes would like, nor is it
as clear as the anti-Atkins crowd would like either.

For exercise the data on gyms is clear that people exercise more now
than they ever did, but the data on gyms does not count exercise at work
or exercise outside of the gym. Camping and other outdoor hobbies are
much less popular than they were in past generations.

The best that can be learned from the data is that once someone is
*already* obese then they exercise less than their peers. At best
exercise ends up as a preventative but trying to demonstrate that from
the data isn't even easy. The worst that can be learned from the data
is that once someone is already obese exercise helps little during lose
but helps much during maintenance - Exercise becomes like a finger in
the dyke.

At the end of the day, of course calories consumed and lack of
excercise are linked to obesity.

Because it's obvious, right? The trouble is obvious does not equal
true.

Did you see any pictures of obese
German concentration camp victims?

That's a classic logical falacy. They are called victims because they
are not willing. Thus voluntary programs can't use the data. But check
on the obesity rates of released concentration camp victims and see what
it says about rebound gain.

How about the athletes that eat
5000 calories a day, including loads of carbs, and are at normal
weight?

It says that exercise reduces insulin toxic effects. In other words to
get to normal weight it works to drop both exercise and carb count.

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On Dec 20, 9:07*pm, Wildbilly wrote:
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*Ted wrote:
Why not?:O
If you google that one it has just good reviews.
I think I have to test it ,though.

As shown in Gary Taubes' book
"Good Calories, Bad Calories: Fats, Carbs, and the Controversial Science
of Diet and
Health"http://www.amazon.com/Good-Calories-Bad-Controversial-Science/dp/1400
...
62/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1261360457&sr=1-1
obesity cannot be linked to calories consumed , or lack of exercise.


While I have respect for Taubes and think most of what he has to say
is correct, the above quote is the type of nonsense that the
mainstream media loves to jump on to discredit supporters of LC.
At the end of the day, of course calories consumed and lack of
excercise are linked to obesity. Did you see any pictures of obese
German concentration camp victims? How about the athletes that eat
5000 calories a day, including loads of carbs, and are at normal
weight?

So you use concentration camps to achieve weight loss? Boy, I bet that's
a tough sell.

What Taubes points out are thin sedentary shop keepers and obese manual
laborer, not in all cases but enough to unlink the popular myth of sloth
leading to obesity and activity leading to weight loss.

As I said, exercise is good/healthy (for most people, check with your
doctor) but don't expect to lose weight.

So I shared with you. What fat burning foods do you have for us?
--
³When you give food to the poor, they call you a saint. When you ask why the poor have no food, they call you a communist.²
-Archbishop Helder Camara

http://tinyurl.com/o63ruj
http://countercurrents.org/roberts020709.htm