Hydrogenated fats in Nitro-Tech bars?

I eat 2 or 3 Nitro-Tech bars daily because they are VERY satisfying and
are high (35 grams, 300 calories) in protein.

My only concern is how much trans-fats they may contain. I have looked
for the word "hydrogenated" but don't see it. However, I do see
"modified palm and palm kernel oils".

Can anyone address this question?

To see the actual ingredients for the various Nitro-Tech bars, go to:

http://www.a1supplements.com/scripts...L::USTNKNBW_A1
_17064



Any comments will be appreciated.

Thanks,

Sy

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I agree that it sounds hideous but I don't think poly-syllabic
ingreedients are necessarily bad for you. "Sodium cloride" sounds
scary but it's actually salt.









In article , Ignoramus19080
wrote:

In article , wrote:

I eat 2 or 3 Nitro-Tech bars daily because they are VERY satisfying and
are high (35 grams, 300 calories) in protein.

My only concern is how much trans-fats they may contain. I have looked
for the word "hydrogenated" but don't see it. However, I do see
"modified palm and palm kernel oils".

Can anyone address this question?

To see the actual ingredients for the various Nitro-Tech bars, go to:

http://www.a1supplements.com/scripts...L::USTNKNBW_A1
_17064

Does not seem like "food" to me...


Ingredients: SynthePro (Whey Peptides (modified weight and partially
predigested (hydrolyzed) Whey Protein Concentrate (providing di-,
tri-, oligo-, and polypeptides) (shorter and longer chains of amino
acids), and new Ion-Exchanged specially filtered 97% Whey Protein
Isolate, l-leucine, l-methionine, l-phenylalanine, lactoferrin
(SynthePro full spectrum whey protein fractions includes- Beta
Lactoglobulin ~55%, Alpha Lactalbumin ~15%, Glycomacropeptides ~21%,
Immunoglobulins ~3%, Bovine Serum Albumin ~2%, Lactoferrin 1%), milk
protein, coating (polydextrose, fractionated palm kernel oil, non-fat
dry milk solids, cocoa powder, soya lecithin (an emulsifier), salt,
natural flavor, and sucralose), glycerine, micronized creatine
monohydrate; Insulogen (guar gum, d-myo-inositol, glucomannan,
taurine, pharmaceutical-grade alpha lipoic acid, Inzitol (D-pinitol)
Nitroxen (l-arginine, glycosidal saponins, folic acid); polydextrose,
cocoa powder, natual flavors, high fructose corn syrup, maltitol
syrup, glutamine blend (l-glutamine, glutamine peptides, calcium alpha
ketoglutarate), vitamin and mineral blend (dicalcium phosphate,
vitamin A palmitate, ascorbic acid, d-alpha tocopheryl acetate,
niacinamide, ferrous fumarate, zinc oxide, d-calcium pantothenate,
pyridoxine hydrochloride, copper gluconate, cholecalciferol,
riboflavin, thiamine mononitate, folic acid, biotin, potassium iodide,
and cyanocobalamin), N-acetyl cysteine, soybean lecithin oil, canola
oil, potassium sorbate, magnesium oxide. brbrPlease Note:br

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On 6/23/2004 8:25 AM, Ignoramus19080 wrote:
In article , wrote:

I eat 2 or 3 Nitro-Tech bars daily because they are VERY satisfying and
are high (35 grams, 300 calories) in protein.

My only concern is how much trans-fats they may contain. I have looked
for the word "hydrogenated" but don't see it. However, I do see
"modified palm and palm kernel oils".

Can anyone address this question?

To see the actual ingredients for the various Nitro-Tech bars, go to:

http://www.a1supplements.com/scripts...L::USTNKNBW_A1
_17064


Does not seem like "food" to me...

and yet you defend McD's...


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In article , jmk wrote:
On 6/23/2004 8:25 AM, Ignoramus19080 wrote:
In article ,
wrote:

I eat 2 or 3 Nitro-Tech bars daily because they are VERY satisfying and
are high (35 grams, 300 calories) in protein.

My only concern is how much trans-fats they may contain. I have looked
for the word "hydrogenated" but don't see it. However, I do see
"modified palm and palm kernel oils".

Can anyone address this question?

To see the actual ingredients for the various Nitro-Tech bars, go to:


http://www.a1supplements.com/scripts...L::USTNKNBW_A1
_17064


Does not seem like "food" to me...

and yet you defend McD's...

McDonalds food is in no way similar to the space age ingredients of
"nitrotech bars".

According to

http://www.dietriot.com/fff/mcd/mcd.html

A McDonalds hamburger is made of: 100% beef patty, bun, ketchup,
mustard, pickles, onions, salt, pepper.

Cheeseburger: 100% beef patty, bun, American cheese slice,
ketchup, mustard, pickles, onions, salt, pepper

etc etc.

Compare this with the freaky "nitrotech bar" ingredients.

I have no desire to do your research for you and look into stuff other
than sandwiches, but the sandwiches themselves are made of very
regular ingredients, much like those you could buy at your grocery
store.

i

With all of the chemicals and crap that beef cattle are fed these days, I
wouldn't go touting ground beef as better than what you consider "space"
food. The processing that their food goes through takes away quite a bit of
the "regular" in their ingredients. My information comes from a McD's
manager that is a good friend so it's not as scientific as your research,
but it works for me.

BTW, space food beats junk food when you're in a bind.

Jenn

Iggie your response is one of a technophobe. The bar is
a food supplement you chew. The materials used
are quite harmless and most them even beneficial.
I can tell you never had a day of chemisty much less the
years of chem lecture and labs I've enjoyed.

"Ignoramus19080" wrote in message
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In article ,
wrote:
I agree that it sounds hideous but I don't think poly-syllabic
ingreedients are necessarily bad for you.

I agree, think about those useful plastics, lubricants, batteries etc
that were made possible by the inventions on chemistry.

"Sodium cloride" sounds scary but it's actually salt.

they actually list salt as salt...

I agree that some "poly-syllabic ingredients" may not be bad,
sometimes, but, this nitro-tech concoction has little to do with the
notion of "food" that I have in mind. My notion of food is something
that was either recently planted somewhere, or was recently running
somewhere. Here' we have something that spent millions of years of its
life in some oil shale halfway around the world, and then was turned
into "nitro-tech bars".

i


In article , Ignoramus19080
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

I eat 2 or 3 Nitro-Tech bars daily because they are VERY satisfying
and
are high (35 grams, 300 calories) in protein.

My only concern is how much trans-fats they may contain. I have
looked
for the word "hydrogenated" but don't see it. However, I do see
"modified palm and palm kernel oils".

Can anyone address this question?

To see the actual ingredients for the various Nitro-Tech bars, go to:


http://www.a1supplements.com/scripts...L::USTNKNBW_A1
_17064

Does not seem like "food" to me...


Ingredients: SynthePro (Whey Peptides (modified weight and partially
predigested (hydrolyzed) Whey Protein Concentrate (providing di-,
tri-, oligo-, and polypeptides) (shorter and longer chains of amino
acids), and new Ion-Exchanged specially filtered 97% Whey Protein
Isolate, l-leucine, l-methionine, l-phenylalanine, lactoferrin
(SynthePro full spectrum whey protein fractions includes- Beta
Lactoglobulin ~55%, Alpha Lactalbumin ~15%, Glycomacropeptides ~21%,
Immunoglobulins ~3%, Bovine Serum Albumin ~2%, Lactoferrin 1%), milk
protein, coating (polydextrose, fractionated palm kernel oil, non-fat
dry milk solids, cocoa powder, soya lecithin (an emulsifier), salt,
natural flavor, and sucralose), glycerine, micronized creatine
monohydrate; Insulogen (guar gum, d-myo-inositol, glucomannan,
taurine, pharmaceutical-grade alpha lipoic acid, Inzitol (D-pinitol)
Nitroxen (l-arginine, glycosidal saponins, folic acid); polydextrose,
cocoa powder, natual flavors, high fructose corn syrup, maltitol
syrup, glutamine blend (l-glutamine, glutamine peptides, calcium alpha
ketoglutarate), vitamin and mineral blend (dicalcium phosphate,
vitamin A palmitate, ascorbic acid, d-alpha tocopheryl acetate,
niacinamide, ferrous fumarate, zinc oxide, d-calcium pantothenate,
pyridoxine hydrochloride, copper gluconate, cholecalciferol,
riboflavin, thiamine mononitate, folic acid, biotin, potassium iodide,
and cyanocobalamin), N-acetyl cysteine, soybean lecithin oil, canola
oil, potassium sorbate, magnesium oxide. brbrPlease Note:br

How sad for you. If your brain was a computer it would be in the range
between the abacus and the Commadore 64 :-(

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I was glad to read your post because if these bars are unhealthy, I
will be dead soon! However, I'm still not sure about i's fat content.

Sy



In article , William A.
Noyes wrote:

Iggie your response is one of a technophobe. The bar is
a food supplement you chew. The materials used
are quite harmless and most them even beneficial.
I can tell you never had a day of chemisty much less the
years of chem lecture and labs I've enjoyed.

"Ignoramus19080" wrote in message
...
In article ,
wrote:
I agree that it sounds hideous but I don't think poly-syllabic
ingreedients are necessarily bad for you.

I agree, think about those useful plastics, lubricants, batteries etc
that were made possible by the inventions on chemistry.

"Sodium cloride" sounds scary but it's actually salt.

they actually list salt as salt...

I agree that some "poly-syllabic ingredients" may not be bad,
sometimes, but, this nitro-tech concoction has little to do with the
notion of "food" that I have in mind. My notion of food is something
that was either recently planted somewhere, or was recently running
somewhere. Here' we have something that spent millions of years of its
life in some oil shale halfway around the world, and then was turned
into "nitro-tech bars".

i


In article , Ignoramus19080
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

I eat 2 or 3 Nitro-Tech bars daily because they are VERY satisfying
and
are high (35 grams, 300 calories) in protein.

My only concern is how much trans-fats they may contain. I have
looked
for the word "hydrogenated" but don't see it. However, I do see
"modified palm and palm kernel oils".

Can anyone address this question?

To see the actual ingredients for the various Nitro-Tech bars, go to:


http://www.a1supplements.com/scripts...L::USTNKNBW_A1
_17064

Does not seem like "food" to me...


Ingredients: SynthePro (Whey Peptides (modified weight and partially
predigested (hydrolyzed) Whey Protein Concentrate (providing di-,
tri-, oligo-, and polypeptides) (shorter and longer chains of amino
acids), and new Ion-Exchanged specially filtered 97% Whey Protein
Isolate, l-leucine, l-methionine, l-phenylalanine, lactoferrin
(SynthePro full spectrum whey protein fractions includes- Beta
Lactoglobulin ~55%, Alpha Lactalbumin ~15%, Glycomacropeptides ~21%,
Immunoglobulins ~3%, Bovine Serum Albumin ~2%, Lactoferrin 1%), milk
protein, coating (polydextrose, fractionated palm kernel oil, non-fat
dry milk solids, cocoa powder, soya lecithin (an emulsifier), salt,
natural flavor, and sucralose), glycerine, micronized creatine
monohydrate; Insulogen (guar gum, d-myo-inositol, glucomannan,
taurine, pharmaceutical-grade alpha lipoic acid, Inzitol (D-pinitol)
Nitroxen (l-arginine, glycosidal saponins, folic acid); polydextrose,
cocoa powder, natual flavors, high fructose corn syrup, maltitol
syrup, glutamine blend (l-glutamine, glutamine peptides, calcium alpha
ketoglutarate), vitamin and mineral blend (dicalcium phosphate,
vitamin A palmitate, ascorbic acid, d-alpha tocopheryl acetate,
niacinamide, ferrous fumarate, zinc oxide, d-calcium pantothenate,
pyridoxine hydrochloride, copper gluconate, cholecalciferol,
riboflavin, thiamine mononitate, folic acid, biotin, potassium iodide,
and cyanocobalamin), N-acetyl cysteine, soybean lecithin oil, canola
oil, potassium sorbate, magnesium oxide. brbrPlease Note:br

How sad for you. If your brain was a computer it would be in the range
between the abacus and the Commadore 64 :-(







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I eat 2 or 3 Nitro-Tech bars daily because they are VERY satisfying and
are high (35 grams, 300 calories) in protein.

My only concern is how much trans-fats they may contain. I have looked
for the word "hydrogenated" but don't see it. However, I do see
"modified palm and palm kernel oils".

Can anyone address this question?

Palm oils have more saturated fat than most vegetable oils so don't
usually need to be hydrogenated, so shouldn't have trans fats. On the
other hand: who knows what "modified" means?

I've avoided Nitro-Tech (preferring Meso-Tech) because of the
presence of sucralose in Nitro-Tech bars. Considering there's already
high fructose corn syrup and malitol syrup in them adding a dodgy
sweetener seems unnecessary.

MattLB

On 24 Jun 2004 05:24:35 -0700, (MattLB) wrote:

wrote in message ...
I eat 2 or 3 Nitro-Tech bars daily because they are VERY satisfying and
are high (35 grams, 300 calories) in protein.

My only concern is how much trans-fats they may contain. I have looked
for the word "hydrogenated" but don't see it. However, I do see
"modified palm and palm kernel oils".

Can anyone address this question?

Palm oils have more saturated fat than most vegetable oils so don't
usually need to be hydrogenated, so shouldn't have trans fats. On the
other hand: who knows what "modified" means?

The list that Igno posted says "fractionated palm kernel oil", which
to me means fractional distilllation, unless fractionated is some food
chemistry geek speak that means something totally different than the
obvious meaning. I assume that the fractionation would be to remove
the components of palm oil that are liquid at room temp (or slightly
above) and keep more of the solid at room temp weight oil.


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"Homo sapiens non urinat in ventum."

1. SynthePro
a. (Whey Peptides (modified weight and partially predigested
(hydrolyzed) Whey Protein Concentrate (providing di-,tri-, oligo-, and
polypeptides) (shorter and longer chains of amino acids),

2. and new Ion-Exchanged specially filtered 97% Whey Protein Isolate,

3. l-leucine,
4. l-methionine,
5. l-phenylalanine,
6. lactoferrin
a. (SynthePro full spectrum whey protein fractions includes- Beta
Lactoglobulin ~55%, Alpha Lactalbumin ~15%, Glycomacropeptides ~21%,
Immunoglobulins ~3%, Bovine Serum Albumin ~2%, Lactoferrin 1%),

7. milk protein,
8. coating
a. (polydextrose, fractionated palm kernel oil, non-fat dry milk
solids, cocoa powder, soya lecithin (an emulsifier), salt ,natural
flavor, and sucralose),

9. glycerine,
10. micronized creatine monohydrate;
11. Insulogen
a. (guar gum, d-myo-inositol, glucomannan,taurine, pharmaceutical-grade
alpha lipoic acid, Inzitol (D-pinitol)[)]

12. Nitroxen
a. (l-arginine, glycosidal saponins, folic acid);

13. polydextrose,
14. cocoa powder,
15. natual flavors,
16. high fructose corn syrup,
17. maltitol syrup,
18. glutamine blend
a. (l-glutamine, glutamine peptides, calcium alpha ketoglutarate),

19. vitamin and mineral blend
a. (dicalcium phosphate, vitamin A palmitate, ascorbic acid, d-alpha
tocopheryl acetate, niacinamide, ferrous fumarate, zinc oxide, d-calcium
pantothenate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, copper
gluconate, cholecalciferol, riboflavin, thiamine mononitate, folic acid,
biotin, potassium iodide, and cyanocobalamin),

20. N-acetyl cysteine,
21. soybean lecithin oil,
22. canola oil,
23. potassium sorbate,
24. magnesium oxide.

fractionated palm kernal oil means, imo, that the manufacturer as
separated the oil, most likely according to boiling points ( unsaturated
oils would have lower boiling point), but no information as to which
fraction is used in the coating. But, again imo, I think it would be
the saturated fraction, to give structure to the coating. After all you
don't want your chocolate coating to run and stick to your hand, do you.
On the other hand this is not hydrogenated, and so, the trans-fatty acid
should be no higher than naturally occuring in palm oil.

to be fair to the maker of this bar, I think they purchase the chocolate
coating used. Which would explain the use of sucralose.


j.

I appreciate you taking the time to post such a comprehensive response.

However, I still don't know whether or not these Nitro-Tech bars have
any deleterious effects.

Can someone give me an answer please?

Thanks,

Sy





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Struggle nought Availeth wrote:

1. SynthePro
a. (Whey Peptides (modified weight and partially predigested
(hydrolyzed) Whey Protein Concentrate (providing di-,tri-, oligo-, and
polypeptides) (shorter and longer chains of amino acids),

2. and new Ion-Exchanged specially filtered 97% Whey Protein Isolate,

3. l-leucine,
4. l-methionine,
5. l-phenylalanine,
6. lactoferrin
a. (SynthePro full spectrum whey protein fractions includes- Beta
Lactoglobulin ~55%, Alpha Lactalbumin ~15%, Glycomacropeptides ~21%,
Immunoglobulins ~3%, Bovine Serum Albumin ~2%, Lactoferrin 1%),

7. milk protein,
8. coating
a. (polydextrose, fractionated palm kernel oil, non-fat dry milk
solids, cocoa powder, soya lecithin (an emulsifier), salt ,natural
flavor, and sucralose),

9. glycerine,
10. micronized creatine monohydrate;
11. Insulogen
a. (guar gum, d-myo-inositol, glucomannan,taurine, pharmaceutical-grade
alpha lipoic acid, Inzitol (D-pinitol)[)]

12. Nitroxen
a. (l-arginine, glycosidal saponins, folic acid);

13. polydextrose,
14. cocoa powder,
15. natual flavors,
16. high fructose corn syrup,
17. maltitol syrup,
18. glutamine blend
a. (l-glutamine, glutamine peptides, calcium alpha ketoglutarate),

19. vitamin and mineral blend
a. (dicalcium phosphate, vitamin A palmitate, ascorbic acid, d-alpha
tocopheryl acetate, niacinamide, ferrous fumarate, zinc oxide, d-calcium
pantothenate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, copper
gluconate, cholecalciferol, riboflavin, thiamine mononitate, folic acid,
biotin, potassium iodide, and cyanocobalamin),

20. N-acetyl cysteine,
21. soybean lecithin oil,
22. canola oil,
23. potassium sorbate,
24. magnesium oxide.

fractionated palm kernal oil means, imo, that the manufacturer as
separated the oil, most likely according to boiling points ( unsaturated
oils would have lower boiling point), but no information as to which
fraction is used in the coating. But, again imo, I think it would be
the saturated fraction, to give structure to the coating. After all you
don't want your chocolate coating to run and stick to your hand, do you.
On the other hand this is not hydrogenated, and so, the trans-fatty acid
should be no higher than naturally occuring in palm oil.

to be fair to the maker of this bar, I think they purchase the chocolate
coating used. Which would explain the use of sucralose.


j.


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