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"Kaz Kylheku" wrote in message
...

Two pounds of the stuff that constitutes the average intake appears to be
in
the ballpark for safe, effective dieting, for both men and women.


2 lbs of *WHAT STUFF?*

Truth:

The two pound diet,aka 2pd etc. is quack science. It has flaws of both
fact and logic. It was invented to fit a preexisting agenda and does
not flow from evidence based on research. The diet inventor has many
times been appraised of his flaws but clings to them for reasons other
then science or valid medical practice


All of this nonsense of measure by weight or volume comes from the
agenda fitting, not well established research. But sadly even the
agenda is based on misunderstood and misapplied information. Even when
corrected the author of the agenda for nothing but pride and vain face
saving can not deal with that truth.

Bottom line, ignore any reference to the two pound diet,aka 2 pd etc.
and stick with established information and sources of expert authorities
which does not include the vanity of vanity distorting reality in this
case.

God bless.

On 2009-05-12, L.B. Listmann wrote:
"Kaz Kylheku" wrote in message
You can measure a quantity of food once a day, and only eat food from
that pre-measured parcel.

Oh give us a break!

``Us'' meaning what, fat ****s?

Measure and then carry food around all day? To work.
school.

Yes, this may surprise the hell out of you, but people do actually pack
and carry lunch to work and school. What planet do you live on?

Obviously, you don't have to carry your breakfast with you, nor your dinner;
you leave those at home.

Weigh everything, put away the dinner, eat the breakfast, pack the lunch.

It's perfectly plausible.

If you want a freshly cooked dinner, then weigh just the breakfast
and packed lunch, then weigh the dinner again. Two numbers to add.

While shopping. Carry around a cooler of ice and hot bottles to
preserve it and keep it from spoiling?

I have such a cooler, and sometimes use it.

What exactly are you arguing against now? Since you don't bring food
to work, where do you get it from?

Eat while standing at the bus stop
or in someone's doorway?

Sounds like you're a tub who must eat all the time. While shopping,
at the bus stop, in someone's doorway.

No wonder you're recoiling at the thought of eating only two pounds.

Are YOU stupid or just ignorant of the dangers of
carting food around all day?

Well aware of the dangers of obesity.

On Tue, 12 May 2009 14:38:55 -0500, wrote
(in article ):

The two pound diet,aka 2pd etc. is quack science.

Twenty-Five Ways to Spot Quacks and Vitamin Pushers

http://www.quackwatch.com/01Quackery...spotquack.html

Some of the 25 different things they recommend to watch for in quacks fit
Chung and his 2PD.

Kaz Kylheku wrote:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...e71fa96107435?

The irrational resistance (excuse-making) against using the simple
2PD-OMER Approach arises from the pervasive and deadly delusion that
"hunger is starvation" which has been discussed in a different thread
starting with the following OP:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...915cc6cd0e47e?

What is required to be cured of this delusion is explained in the book
"Be Hungry" which the Holy Spirit guided me to write and publish on
Independence Day in 2007:

http://NetCabal.com

Of course, folks suffering from the delusion that "hunger is
starvation" absolutely hate "Be Hungry" even though most of these
nay-sayers have not even read the book:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...8632a5a8e6141?

Be hungrier, which truly is healthier especially for the heart:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier

Love in the truth,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
http://EmoryCardiology

On 2009-05-12, L.B. Listmann wrote:
"Kaz Kylheku" wrote in message
...

Two pounds of the stuff that constitutes the average intake appears to be
in
the ballpark for safe, effective dieting, for both men and women.


2 lbs of *WHAT STUFF?*

Obviously, food that has an average caloric density of between 1.5 and 2
kcal/g.

This is easy to achieve. If every component of every meal has a density
in this range, then the overall density cannot be outside of that
range. (Mean value theorem from calculus).

Do not put anything on that scale that has more than 2 kcal/g.

Anything which has calories must be weighed, including liquids.
If you think you can put a 500g soda on the scale and still be
able to eat well in the 407g you have left, go ahead.

I would go with lean meats, vegetables, pastas, rice---that sort of thing. Only
a smattering of dense fat and carbs like butter, cheese, chocolate, crackers or
cookies, etc; I would tend to weigh that separately and keep it all under 50g,
which would cap its caloric contribution at 450 kcal.

I would put that tip-of-the-USDA-food-pyramid type of stuff on the scale first
and stop at 50 g.

For the remaining 857 g, I would add some healthy stuff that has a caloric
density of under 1.7 kcal/g.

On May 12, 4:17*pm, "Andrew B. Chung" wrote:
Of course, folks suffering from the delusion that "hunger is
starvation" absolutely hate "Be Hungry" even though most of these
nay-sayers have not even read the book:

I read your pamphlet. I thought it was pretty ****ing hilarious --
especially the part where you make up the story about GA Tech cops
bashing your head in.

6041 Colt Ridge wrote in news:b93cfa8f-6d4f-4824-
:

On May 12, 4:17*pm, "Andrew B. Chung" wrote:
Of course, folks suffering from the delusion that "hunger is
starvation" absolutely hate "Be Hungry" even though most of these
nay-sayers have not even read the book:

I read your pamphlet. I thought it was pretty ****ing hilarious --
especially the part where you make up the story about GA Tech cops
bashing your head in.



Here at +Christian Land the proffered method of 'end is on a filthy cross

On 2009-05-12, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
Kaz Kylheku wrote:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...e71fa96107435?

The irrational resistance (excuse-making) against using the simple
2PD-OMER Approach arises from the pervasive and deadly delusion that
"hunger is starvation" which has been discussed in a different thread
starting with the following OP:

Indeed, I have seen in these newsgroups, two pounds of food per day
being called a ``starvation diet''.

Only a pig could possibly think that.

A study following 80,000 Europeans found that men ate at an average caloric
density of 1.9 kcal/g. Over two pounds, this translates to over 1800 calories,
which is plenty for the average male.

Two pounds of food daily is in fact in the right ballpark for normal eating.

Of course, folks suffering from the delusion that "hunger is
starvation" absolutely hate "Be Hungry" even though most of these
nay-sayers have not even read the book:

Hunger is a normal body signal that people who eat normally should feel several
times a day. Moreover, it should persist during the consumption of a meal and
for some time afterward.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
Kaz Kylheku wrote:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...e71fa96107435?

The irrational resistance (excuse-making) against using the simple
2PD-OMER Approach arises from the pervasive and deadly delusion that
"hunger is starvation" which has been discussed in a different thread
starting with the following OP:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...915cc6cd0e47e?

What is required to be cured of this delusion is explained in the book
"Be Hungry" which the Holy Spirit guided me to write and publish on
Independence Day in 2007:

http://NetCabal.com

Of course, folks suffering from the delusion that "hunger is
starvation" absolutely hate "Be Hungry" even though most of these
nay-sayers have not even read the book:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...8632a5a8e6141?

Be hungrier, which truly is healthier especially for the heart:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier

Love in the truth,

Andrew

i'm sorry that your life is so sad