Weigh-in this week

Oh, I'd never heard of "Frango" - I thought it was an abbreviation of FRed
ANd GObs of chocolate!
Julie

"Fred" wrote in message
...
I knew it! (G)

Okay, a number of years ago, a local shop (macy's or nordstrom's-like)
called Fredricks and Nelsons (Seattle, like Nordstroms) had a candy
called Frangos. It was packaged in an octogon shaped box. Mint
probably was the original flavor. Other flavors were developed. Kind
of a small rectangular truffle. An inner chocolate with flavor dipped
in chocolate. Some turkey managed to get control and sent them into
bankruptcy. They ceased to exist. Another local, Bon Marche, took
over the very popular Frango line, purchasing it in the bankruptcy
sale, I think. The Bon now is Bon-Macy's.

So they still produce the item but it was made for them by a local
chocolateer (spelling?). Recently, they changed manufacturers. The
local guy decided to create a similar confection. A legal bruhaha.
He managed to develop something very similar but packaging was not
permitted in the octogon box. So they just made a larger plain
plastic jar and it is distributed by Costco. Doing well from what I
understand.

Therein lies a long short story.

But it does have an axiom. Just this weekend, when I was discussing
portion control with a Frango freak (g), I discussed Skinny Cows and
the individual and therefore, portion control angle, of one item
instead of a tub of ice cream. Then I noted that the old octogon
Frango box held much fewer candies then the Costco JAR she had already
consumed. There was a tendency to hold back in the octogon so that
there would be some left over for another day/week. The larger jar,
huge, actually, does not cause that same tendency or hesitancy.
There's plenty more. Therefore, more candies per sitting and not as
self-limiting.

Aren't you glad you asked?

(GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG)

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 03:39:15 GMT, "Julie"
wrote:

OK, I'll bite - what's Frango?
Julie

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
I hid the Costco container of what I will call Frango chocolates.
Good luck

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 13:03:01 GMT, "Julie"
wrote:

Hi Fellow Losers,
Well over the holidays I managed to reclaim 5lbs, and every ounce is
still
clinging to me! Now that the jumbo jar of cashews from Costco is
finally
empty, this next week holds a lot of promise (and probably a lot of
low-point soup).
Stay happy and healthy.
Julie

Hey, I'll patent that! (G)

On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 01:08:21 GMT, "Julie"
wrote:

Oh, I'd never heard of "Frango" - I thought it was an abbreviation of FRed
ANd GObs of chocolate!
Julie

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
I knew it! (G)

Okay, a number of years ago, a local shop (macy's or nordstrom's-like)
called Fredricks and Nelsons (Seattle, like Nordstroms) had a candy
called Frangos. It was packaged in an octogon shaped box. Mint
probably was the original flavor. Other flavors were developed. Kind
of a small rectangular truffle. An inner chocolate with flavor dipped
in chocolate. Some turkey managed to get control and sent them into
bankruptcy. They ceased to exist. Another local, Bon Marche, took
over the very popular Frango line, purchasing it in the bankruptcy
sale, I think. The Bon now is Bon-Macy's.

So they still produce the item but it was made for them by a local
chocolateer (spelling?). Recently, they changed manufacturers. The
local guy decided to create a similar confection. A legal bruhaha.
He managed to develop something very similar but packaging was not
permitted in the octogon box. So they just made a larger plain
plastic jar and it is distributed by Costco. Doing well from what I
understand.

Therein lies a long short story.

But it does have an axiom. Just this weekend, when I was discussing
portion control with a Frango freak (g), I discussed Skinny Cows and
the individual and therefore, portion control angle, of one item
instead of a tub of ice cream. Then I noted that the old octogon
Frango box held much fewer candies then the Costco JAR she had already
consumed. There was a tendency to hold back in the octogon so that
there would be some left over for another day/week. The larger jar,
huge, actually, does not cause that same tendency or hesitancy.
There's plenty more. Therefore, more candies per sitting and not as
self-limiting.

Aren't you glad you asked?

(GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG)

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 03:39:15 GMT, "Julie"
wrote:

OK, I'll bite - what's Frango?
Julie

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
I hid the Costco container of what I will call Frango chocolates.
Good luck

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 13:03:01 GMT, "Julie"
wrote:

Hi Fellow Losers,
Well over the holidays I managed to reclaim 5lbs, and every ounce is
still
clinging to me! Now that the jumbo jar of cashews from Costco is
finally
empty, this next week holds a lot of promise (and probably a lot of
low-point soup).
Stay happy and healthy.
Julie

The cookies look yummy, but I love the panoramic landscape photo. I
don't think my new digicam takes panoramic shots... Something I should
check into.

Thanks for posting these. I get wistful about going to the mountains
whenever you post your pictures.

Prairie Roots

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 08:48:57 -0800, Fred wrote:
Ah, yes, Andes mints - she was an addict with those also - her
Grandmother would always serve those.


Actually, if you are interested, here were just some of the
temptations over the New Years weekend:

http://fk8660.home.att.net/DSCN3069.JPG

And then a Room with a View:

http://fk8660.home.att.net/DSCN3090.JPG

And then a panorama where I was skiing:

http://fk8660.home.att.net/CommunityTrail.jpg

OH, and I am sorry - but these a photos and maybe DH can explain them.

CASE is important on AT&T sites for url's.



On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 04:40:41 -0600, "Miss Violette"
wrote:

it was interesting to me, self limiting is important in snack foods. andes
mints for example, in a nice box but individually wrapped, Lee
Fred wrote in message
.. .
I knew it! (G)

Okay, a number of years ago, a local shop (macy's or nordstrom's-like)
called Fredricks and Nelsons (Seattle, like Nordstroms) had a candy
called Frangos. It was packaged in an octogon shaped box. Mint
probably was the original flavor. Other flavors were developed. Kind
of a small rectangular truffle. An inner chocolate with flavor dipped
in chocolate. Some turkey managed to get control and sent them into
bankruptcy. They ceased to exist. Another local, Bon Marche, took
over the very popular Frango line, purchasing it in the bankruptcy
sale, I think. The Bon now is Bon-Macy's.

So they still produce the item but it was made for them by a local
chocolateer (spelling?). Recently, they changed manufacturers. The
local guy decided to create a similar confection. A legal bruhaha.
He managed to develop something very similar but packaging was not
permitted in the octogon box. So they just made a larger plain
plastic jar and it is distributed by Costco. Doing well from what I
understand.

Therein lies a long short story.

But it does have an axiom. Just this weekend, when I was discussing
portion control with a Frango freak (g), I discussed Skinny Cows and
the individual and therefore, portion control angle, of one item
instead of a tub of ice cream. Then I noted that the old octogon
Frango box held much fewer candies then the Costco JAR she had already
consumed. There was a tendency to hold back in the octogon so that
there would be some left over for another day/week. The larger jar,
huge, actually, does not cause that same tendency or hesitancy.
There's plenty more. Therefore, more candies per sitting and not as
self-limiting.

Aren't you glad you asked?

(GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG)

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 03:39:15 GMT, "Julie"
wrote:

OK, I'll bite - what's Frango?
Julie

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
I hid the Costco container of what I will call Frango chocolates.
Good luck

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 13:03:01 GMT, "Julie"
wrote:

Hi Fellow Losers,
Well over the holidays I managed to reclaim 5lbs, and every ounce is
still
clinging to me! Now that the jumbo jar of cashews from Costco is
finally
empty, this next week holds a lot of promise (and probably a lot of
low-point soup).
Stay happy and healthy.
Julie

Great pictures.

"Fred" wrote in message
...
Ah, yes, Andes mints - she was an addict with those also - her
Grandmother would always serve those.


Actually, if you are interested, here were just some of the
temptations over the New Years weekend:

http://fk8660.home.att.net/DSCN3069.JPG

And then a Room with a View:

http://fk8660.home.att.net/DSCN3090.JPG

And then a panorama where I was skiing:

http://fk8660.home.att.net/CommunityTrail.jpg

OH, and I am sorry - but these a photos and maybe DH can explain them.

CASE is important on AT&T sites for url's.



On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 04:40:41 -0600, "Miss Violette"
wrote:

it was interesting to me, self limiting is important in snack foods.
andes
mints for example, in a nice box but individually wrapped, Lee
Fred wrote in message
.. .
I knew it! (G)

Okay, a number of years ago, a local shop (macy's or nordstrom's-like)
called Fredricks and Nelsons (Seattle, like Nordstroms) had a candy
called Frangos. It was packaged in an octogon shaped box. Mint
probably was the original flavor. Other flavors were developed. Kind
of a small rectangular truffle. An inner chocolate with flavor dipped
in chocolate. Some turkey managed to get control and sent them into
bankruptcy. They ceased to exist. Another local, Bon Marche, took
over the very popular Frango line, purchasing it in the bankruptcy
sale, I think. The Bon now is Bon-Macy's.

So they still produce the item but it was made for them by a local
chocolateer (spelling?). Recently, they changed manufacturers. The
local guy decided to create a similar confection. A legal bruhaha.
He managed to develop something very similar but packaging was not
permitted in the octogon box. So they just made a larger plain
plastic jar and it is distributed by Costco. Doing well from what I
understand.

Therein lies a long short story.

But it does have an axiom. Just this weekend, when I was discussing
portion control with a Frango freak (g), I discussed Skinny Cows and
the individual and therefore, portion control angle, of one item
instead of a tub of ice cream. Then I noted that the old octogon
Frango box held much fewer candies then the Costco JAR she had already
consumed. There was a tendency to hold back in the octogon so that
there would be some left over for another day/week. The larger jar,
huge, actually, does not cause that same tendency or hesitancy.
There's plenty more. Therefore, more candies per sitting and not as
self-limiting.

Aren't you glad you asked?

(GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG)

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 03:39:15 GMT, "Julie"
wrote:

OK, I'll bite - what's Frango?
Julie

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
I hid the Costco container of what I will call Frango chocolates.
Good luck

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 13:03:01 GMT, "Julie"
wrote:

Hi Fellow Losers,
Well over the holidays I managed to reclaim 5lbs, and every ounce
is
still
clinging to me! Now that the jumbo jar of cashews from Costco is
finally
empty, this next week holds a lot of promise (and probably a lot of
low-point soup).
Stay happy and healthy.
Julie

The cookies WERE yummy (G)

As for the landscape pan shot - it is actually five separate pictures
and a separate program stitched them together automatically. You just
have to make sure that there is sufficient overlap between sidebyside
images for it to work.

I think that I HAVE TO LIVE near mountains. I also like knowing the
ocean is somewhere nearby - altho, it is much further from Seattle
than most people think.

On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 23:06:18 -0600, Prairie Roots
wrote:

The cookies look yummy, but I love the panoramic landscape photo. I
don't think my new digicam takes panoramic shots... Something I should
check into.

Thanks for posting these. I get wistful about going to the mountains
whenever you post your pictures.

Prairie Roots

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 08:48:57 -0800, Fred wrote:
Ah, yes, Andes mints - she was an addict with those also - her
Grandmother would always serve those.


Actually, if you are interested, here were just some of the
temptations over the New Years weekend:

http://fk8660.home.att.net/DSCN3069.JPG

And then a Room with a View:

http://fk8660.home.att.net/DSCN3090.JPG

And then a panorama where I was skiing:

http://fk8660.home.att.net/CommunityTrail.jpg

OH, and I am sorry - but these a photos and maybe DH can explain them.

CASE is important on AT&T sites for url's.



On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 04:40:41 -0600, "Miss Violette"
wrote:

it was interesting to me, self limiting is important in snack foods. andes
mints for example, in a nice box but individually wrapped, Lee
Fred wrote in message
.. .
I knew it! (G)

Okay, a number of years ago, a local shop (macy's or nordstrom's-like)
called Fredricks and Nelsons (Seattle, like Nordstroms) had a candy
called Frangos. It was packaged in an octogon shaped box. Mint
probably was the original flavor. Other flavors were developed. Kind
of a small rectangular truffle. An inner chocolate with flavor dipped
in chocolate. Some turkey managed to get control and sent them into
bankruptcy. They ceased to exist. Another local, Bon Marche, took
over the very popular Frango line, purchasing it in the bankruptcy
sale, I think. The Bon now is Bon-Macy's.

So they still produce the item but it was made for them by a local
chocolateer (spelling?). Recently, they changed manufacturers. The
local guy decided to create a similar confection. A legal bruhaha.
He managed to develop something very similar but packaging was not
permitted in the octogon box. So they just made a larger plain
plastic jar and it is distributed by Costco. Doing well from what I
understand.

Therein lies a long short story.

But it does have an axiom. Just this weekend, when I was discussing
portion control with a Frango freak (g), I discussed Skinny Cows and
the individual and therefore, portion control angle, of one item
instead of a tub of ice cream. Then I noted that the old octogon
Frango box held much fewer candies then the Costco JAR she had already
consumed. There was a tendency to hold back in the octogon so that
there would be some left over for another day/week. The larger jar,
huge, actually, does not cause that same tendency or hesitancy.
There's plenty more. Therefore, more candies per sitting and not as
self-limiting.

Aren't you glad you asked?

(GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG)

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 03:39:15 GMT, "Julie"
wrote:

OK, I'll bite - what's Frango?
Julie

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
I hid the Costco container of what I will call Frango chocolates.
Good luck

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 13:03:01 GMT, "Julie"
wrote:

Hi Fellow Losers,
Well over the holidays I managed to reclaim 5lbs, and every ounce is
still
clinging to me! Now that the jumbo jar of cashews from Costco is
finally
empty, this next week holds a lot of promise (and probably a lot of
low-point soup).
Stay happy and healthy.
Julie

Hi Julie, sorry for the five pounds but it'll come back off. Hang in
there!

--

~Kristin O~
272/242.2/172



"Julie" wrote in message
news:9ycLb.25467$ts4.14479@pd7tw3no...
Hi Fellow Losers,
Well over the holidays I managed to reclaim 5lbs, and every ounce is still
clinging to me! Now that the jumbo jar of cashews from Costco is finally
empty, this next week holds a lot of promise (and probably a lot of
low-point soup).
Stay happy and healthy.
Julie

Thanks for sharing the pics Fred. I think I'd skip the cookies, although
they do look good. I wouldn't mind a few nights away in a room with a view
like that though! Beautiful!
--
Brenda
209/178/150
RafL goal 165

"Fred" wrote in message
...
Ah, yes, Andes mints - she was an addict with those also - her
Grandmother would always serve those.


Actually, if you are interested, here were just some of the
temptations over the New Years weekend:

http://fk8660.home.att.net/DSCN3069.JPG

And then a Room with a View:

http://fk8660.home.att.net/DSCN3090.JPG

And then a panorama where I was skiing:

http://fk8660.home.att.net/CommunityTrail.jpg

OH, and I am sorry - but these a photos and maybe DH can explain them.

CASE is important on AT&T sites for url's.



On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 04:40:41 -0600, "Miss Violette"
wrote:

it was interesting to me, self limiting is important in snack foods.
andes
mints for example, in a nice box but individually wrapped, Lee
Fred wrote in message
.. .
I knew it! (G)

Okay, a number of years ago, a local shop (macy's or nordstrom's-like)
called Fredricks and Nelsons (Seattle, like Nordstroms) had a candy
called Frangos. It was packaged in an octogon shaped box. Mint
probably was the original flavor. Other flavors were developed. Kind
of a small rectangular truffle. An inner chocolate with flavor dipped
in chocolate. Some turkey managed to get control and sent them into
bankruptcy. They ceased to exist. Another local, Bon Marche, took
over the very popular Frango line, purchasing it in the bankruptcy
sale, I think. The Bon now is Bon-Macy's.

So they still produce the item but it was made for them by a local
chocolateer (spelling?). Recently, they changed manufacturers. The
local guy decided to create a similar confection. A legal bruhaha.
He managed to develop something very similar but packaging was not
permitted in the octogon box. So they just made a larger plain
plastic jar and it is distributed by Costco. Doing well from what I
understand.

Therein lies a long short story.

But it does have an axiom. Just this weekend, when I was discussing
portion control with a Frango freak (g), I discussed Skinny Cows and
the individual and therefore, portion control angle, of one item
instead of a tub of ice cream. Then I noted that the old octogon
Frango box held much fewer candies then the Costco JAR she had already
consumed. There was a tendency to hold back in the octogon so that
there would be some left over for another day/week. The larger jar,
huge, actually, does not cause that same tendency or hesitancy.
There's plenty more. Therefore, more candies per sitting and not as
self-limiting.

Aren't you glad you asked?

(GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG)

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 03:39:15 GMT, "Julie"
wrote:

OK, I'll bite - what's Frango?
Julie

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
I hid the Costco container of what I will call Frango chocolates.
Good luck

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 13:03:01 GMT, "Julie"
wrote:

Hi Fellow Losers,
Well over the holidays I managed to reclaim 5lbs, and every ounce
is
still
clinging to me! Now that the jumbo jar of cashews from Costco is
finally
empty, this next week holds a lot of promise (and probably a lot of
low-point soup).
Stay happy and healthy.
Julie

Welcome. I skipped some of the cookies.

Altho, (back to that other thread on the skiing and feeling good) - I
do think that eating more while and after skiing this last period may
be explained by the fact that I have less "stores" in body fat to
expend that much energy and keep going that many hours. So maybe the
munchies are a reasonable reaction as long as I don't carry it out
over a full week. I still think banking activity points after really
heavy exertion is acceptable for me on occasion.

It really is nice - it's the Washington version of the Okanogan!

On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 06:25:12 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
wrote:

Thanks for sharing the pics Fred. I think I'd skip the cookies, although
they do look good. I wouldn't mind a few nights away in a room with a view
like that though! Beautiful!

Makes sense. I think that with the amount of exercise you get you can
afford to eat more. I on the other hand, don't get in nearly as much
exercise, so eating more is a really bad choice for me to make,
unfortunately it's one I've been making ALOT lately.

"Fred" wrote in message
...
Welcome. I skipped some of the cookies.

Altho, (back to that other thread on the skiing and feeling good) - I
do think that eating more while and after skiing this last period may
be explained by the fact that I have less "stores" in body fat to
expend that much energy and keep going that many hours. So maybe the
munchies are a reasonable reaction as long as I don't carry it out
over a full week. I still think banking activity points after really
heavy exertion is acceptable for me on occasion.

It really is nice - it's the Washington version of the Okanogan!

On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 06:25:12 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
wrote:

Thanks for sharing the pics Fred. I think I'd skip the cookies, although
they do look good. I wouldn't mind a few nights away in a room with a
view
like that though! Beautiful!

Okay, how do we get you out and active more? (G) I know you are
pretty tied up with the business and your son - so compromise is in
order. Somehow you do NEED the willpower. Or try filling up with
more and more and MORE veggies (g)

My secretary today had the new WW calculator. It does food points and
she asked for my activities this weekend. She freaked when I told her
STRENUOUS, FOUR HOURS and my weight and came up with 16+ points or
more each day. And last week's 3 days of skiing was probably more
than that. She did think that I do need to eat but could not suggest
realistically how much. I probably do need to count points again and
journal more again.

On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 08:12:39 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
wrote:

Makes sense. I think that with the amount of exercise you get you can
afford to eat more. I on the other hand, don't get in nearly as much
exercise, so eating more is a really bad choice for me to make,
unfortunately it's one I've been making ALOT lately.

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Welcome. I skipped some of the cookies.

Altho, (back to that other thread on the skiing and feeling good) - I
do think that eating more while and after skiing this last period may
be explained by the fact that I have less "stores" in body fat to
expend that much energy and keep going that many hours. So maybe the
munchies are a reasonable reaction as long as I don't carry it out
over a full week. I still think banking activity points after really
heavy exertion is acceptable for me on occasion.

It really is nice - it's the Washington version of the Okanogan!

On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 06:25:12 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
wrote:

Thanks for sharing the pics Fred. I think I'd skip the cookies, although
they do look good. I wouldn't mind a few nights away in a room with a
view
like that though! Beautiful!