Diabetes and Weigh****chers

I think you need a new doctor. As to diet advice, I found turkey
slices a useful protein for breakfast (Pre-cooked but I was willing
to eat it straight from the refrigerator). I wasn't using regular deli-case
meats but the home-roasted stuff (unless I could find a low sodium and
low fat version). Any meat you like could be substituted if you
like them at breakfast. (please note I wasn't raised with foods
defined as "breakfast only" menu items; reheating the left-overs from last
night's dinner was an acceptable choice for school morning breakfasts.)

Cindy Wells
(although now I tend to stick to low-fat mozzarella cheese sticks
just because I slice my turkey too thick for fast eating)

so glad to see you post, Lee
Eddie-Type2 wrote in message
...
Michael,

I've been a type 2 diabetic for approx. 6 years and I've been controlling
with orals meds, diet and exercise. My last HbA1c was 5.2 mmol (which is
approx. 94 in US terms). When I was first diagnosed, my BG readings were
averaging between 16 and 25 (288 to 450) !!!.........Here's what I
learned.........IT'S ALL ABOUT CONTROLLING YOUR CARB INTAKE......

I learned from ASD (alt.support.diabetes) that figuring out the number of
carbs your body can handle without spiking is the key to getting your
diabetes under control.

You should read the following note for the NEWLY diagnosed from
diabetic-talk.org.....click this link and follow Jennifer's advice - it
will
truly give you a great understanding of your diabetes and how to control
it
http://www.diabetic-talk.org/jennifer.htm

1) Control your carb intake - find out how much you can handle per meal by
testing. As your BG improves, you will be able to handle more carbs than
normal. Most diabetics can handle more later in the day rather than first
thing in the morning.
2) Exercise - exercising after a high carb meal with help reduce any
spike
in BG.
3) Lose weight - this will help with your insulin resistance - joining WW
was probably the best thing you ever did
4) Build Muscle - building lean muscle helps your diabetes tremendously.
Since I started weight training a year ago, my morning BG has dropped one
full point from 6.4 to 5.4 !!! (115 to 97)

As for some breakfast ideas? - my morning FBG is always my highest of the
day - no doubt about it! If I wake up higher than 7 (126) (very rarely
now)
then I cut out the carbs or try to walk for 30 minutes immediately after
my
breakfast.

Here are some of my choices in the morning........

1) light or low carb bread or light English Muffins - such as Arnold or
Wegman's or WW white bread - I make toast with it and put some sugar free
jam or reduced fat peanut butter on it - 6 carbs per slice - 5 carbs for
the
jam - 1 point for 2 slices
2) 4 oz. fat free or extra lean ham slices or 97% fat free ham steak - 0
carbs 2 points
3) egg omelet with green and red peppers, fat free ham, onions - minimal
carbs - 6 points
4) one glass of skim milk - 13 carbs - 2 points
5) one glass of 1/2 calorie orange juice - 13 carbs - 1 point
6) Here in Ontario, Canada, I love to eat peameal bacon which is lean
pork
loin with cornmeal on the outside - the one sold by Costco is only 2
points
for 4 oz.
7) couple of fried eggs over easy - 0 carbs - 4 points
8) French Toast using one beat up egg and 2 slice of low car bread -
sugar
free maple syrup - 6 carbs per slice - 3 points.
9) I know this sounds weird, but I personally like to eat olives in the
morning and kosher deli pickles with my Fat free ham slices - 0 carbs - 1
point for 6 olives, none for the pickles.
10)You can always consider any leftovers such as cold chicken or turkey -
as
another posted - any meat, fish or poultry protein won't raise your BG
when
you eat it.
11) I also love to eat DreamFields Pasta - we can't get it here in Canada
anymore, but I buy it in the US and it's great for most diabetics - I've
heard it affects some diabetics, but I'm one of the lucky ones - it
doesn't
affect my BG at all and it tastes just like regular pasta - you would
never
know the difference - I promise you!
12) Another thing I like to eat in the morning is fat free cheese
sandwiches - 2 fat free American cheese slices on 2 slices of low carb
bread - 3 points - 12 carbs.

Be creative.......but watch those carbs - test and get to know how many
you
can handle at each meal. Try to exercise after supper if possible and try
to get into a weight lifting routine - you will see the difference in
within
a few days. I'll bet you already see a difference just when you walk up
and
down a few flights of stairs?

Good luck - you can do this.

Eddie
Weight June05-359.0lbs
Current Weight-284.0lbs
Loss to date=75.0lbs
Goal Weight-180.0lbs


"Michael James" wrote in message
...
I am a diabetic who needs to loose weight. I've chosen Weigh****chers to
help me in the fight against the fat. However, I'm having trouble,
especially in the morning, with what to eat. My sugar reading is usually
high in the morning (175 or higher) and I know that once it gets above 220
I become groggy with my head in a fog, so to speak. My doctor has me on
oral medication for diabetes, but it doesn't seem to bring my sugar levels
down fast enough. He has refused upping my dosage, or changing me to
different medication (including insulin). I have pills to take in the
morning that require food in the stomach, so skipping breakfast is NOT an
option.

Any ideas on what I might be able to eat that wouldn't affect my sugar
levels too much in the morning? I'm getting tired of eggs and cottage
cheese for breakfast.

Thanks!

Michael James

Thanks Lee...........I've been lurking for the last little while. I've been
struggling since Christmas and put back on 10 lbs. I lost 2 lbs last week
and have 8 more to get back to where I was.

I see a lot of new posters in here now.....I've just been laying low and
reading rather than posting. You know my motto - Quitting is not an option.

Very glad to hear from you .......

Eddie
Weight June05-359.0lbs
Current Weight-279.2lbs
Loss to date=79.8lbs
Goal Weight-180.0lbs


"Stormmee" wrote in message
...
so glad to see you post, Lee
Eddie-Type2 wrote in message
...
Michael,

I've been a type 2 diabetic for approx. 6 years and I've been controlling
with orals meds, diet and exercise. My last HbA1c was 5.2 mmol (which is
approx. 94 in US terms). When I was first diagnosed, my BG readings were
averaging between 16 and 25 (288 to 450) !!!.........Here's what I
learned.........IT'S ALL ABOUT CONTROLLING YOUR CARB INTAKE......

I learned from ASD (alt.support.diabetes) that figuring out the number of
carbs your body can handle without spiking is the key to getting your
diabetes under control.

You should read the following note for the NEWLY diagnosed from
diabetic-talk.org.....click this link and follow Jennifer's advice - it
will
truly give you a great understanding of your diabetes and how to control
it
http://www.diabetic-talk.org/jennifer.htm

1) Control your carb intake - find out how much you can handle per meal by
testing. As your BG improves, you will be able to handle more carbs than
normal. Most diabetics can handle more later in the day rather than first
thing in the morning.
2) Exercise - exercising after a high carb meal with help reduce any
spike
in BG.
3) Lose weight - this will help with your insulin resistance - joining WW
was probably the best thing you ever did
4) Build Muscle - building lean muscle helps your diabetes tremendously.
Since I started weight training a year ago, my morning BG has dropped one
full point from 6.4 to 5.4 !!! (115 to 97)

As for some breakfast ideas? - my morning FBG is always my highest of the
day - no doubt about it! If I wake up higher than 7 (126) (very rarely
now)
then I cut out the carbs or try to walk for 30 minutes immediately after
my
breakfast.

Here are some of my choices in the morning........

1) light or low carb bread or light English Muffins - such as Arnold or
Wegman's or WW white bread - I make toast with it and put some sugar free
jam or reduced fat peanut butter on it - 6 carbs per slice - 5 carbs for
the
jam - 1 point for 2 slices
2) 4 oz. fat free or extra lean ham slices or 97% fat free ham steak - 0
carbs 2 points
3) egg omelet with green and red peppers, fat free ham, onions - minimal
carbs - 6 points
4) one glass of skim milk - 13 carbs - 2 points
5) one glass of 1/2 calorie orange juice - 13 carbs - 1 point
6) Here in Ontario, Canada, I love to eat peameal bacon which is lean
pork
loin with cornmeal on the outside - the one sold by Costco is only 2
points
for 4 oz.
7) couple of fried eggs over easy - 0 carbs - 4 points
8) French Toast using one beat up egg and 2 slice of low car bread -
sugar
free maple syrup - 6 carbs per slice - 3 points.
9) I know this sounds weird, but I personally like to eat olives in the
morning and kosher deli pickles with my Fat free ham slices - 0 carbs - 1
point for 6 olives, none for the pickles.
10)You can always consider any leftovers such as cold chicken or turkey -
as
another posted - any meat, fish or poultry protein won't raise your BG
when
you eat it.
11) I also love to eat DreamFields Pasta - we can't get it here in Canada
anymore, but I buy it in the US and it's great for most diabetics - I've
heard it affects some diabetics, but I'm one of the lucky ones - it
doesn't
affect my BG at all and it tastes just like regular pasta - you would
never
know the difference - I promise you!
12) Another thing I like to eat in the morning is fat free cheese
sandwiches - 2 fat free American cheese slices on 2 slices of low carb
bread - 3 points - 12 carbs.

Be creative.......but watch those carbs - test and get to know how many
you
can handle at each meal. Try to exercise after supper if possible and try
to get into a weight lifting routine - you will see the difference in
within
a few days. I'll bet you already see a difference just when you walk up
and
down a few flights of stairs?

Good luck - you can do this.

Eddie
Weight June05-359.0lbs
Current Weight-284.0lbs
Loss to date=75.0lbs
Goal Weight-180.0lbs


"Michael James" wrote in message
...
I am a diabetic who needs to loose weight. I've chosen Weigh****chers to
help me in the fight against the fat. However, I'm having trouble,
especially in the morning, with what to eat. My sugar reading is usually
high in the morning (175 or higher) and I know that once it gets above 220
I become groggy with my head in a fog, so to speak. My doctor has me on
oral medication for diabetes, but it doesn't seem to bring my sugar levels
down fast enough. He has refused upping my dosage, or changing me to
different medication (including insulin). I have pills to take in the
morning that require food in the stomach, so skipping breakfast is NOT an
option.

Any ideas on what I might be able to eat that wouldn't affect my sugar
levels too much in the morning? I'm getting tired of eggs and cottage
cheese for breakfast.

Thanks!

Michael James

sometimes it is a struggle but you are not quitting and that is what
matters, come back and post soon we miss you, Lee
Eddie-Type2 wrote in message
...
Thanks Lee...........I've been lurking for the last little while. I've
been
struggling since Christmas and put back on 10 lbs. I lost 2 lbs last week
and have 8 more to get back to where I was.

I see a lot of new posters in here now.....I've just been laying low and
reading rather than posting. You know my motto - Quitting is not an
option.

Very glad to hear from you .......

Eddie
Weight June05-359.0lbs
Current Weight-279.2lbs
Loss to date=79.8lbs
Goal Weight-180.0lbs


"Stormmee" wrote in message
...
so glad to see you post, Lee
Eddie-Type2 wrote in message
...
Michael,

I've been a type 2 diabetic for approx. 6 years and I've been
controlling
with orals meds, diet and exercise. My last HbA1c was 5.2 mmol (which
is
approx. 94 in US terms). When I was first diagnosed, my BG readings
were
averaging between 16 and 25 (288 to 450) !!!.........Here's what I
learned.........IT'S ALL ABOUT CONTROLLING YOUR CARB INTAKE......

I learned from ASD (alt.support.diabetes) that figuring out the number
of
carbs your body can handle without spiking is the key to getting your
diabetes under control.

You should read the following note for the NEWLY diagnosed from
diabetic-talk.org.....click this link and follow Jennifer's advice - it
will
truly give you a great understanding of your diabetes and how to control
it
http://www.diabetic-talk.org/jennifer.htm

1) Control your carb intake - find out how much you can handle per meal
by
testing. As your BG improves, you will be able to handle more carbs
than
normal. Most diabetics can handle more later in the day rather than
first
thing in the morning.
2) Exercise - exercising after a high carb meal with help reduce any
spike
in BG.
3) Lose weight - this will help with your insulin resistance - joining
WW
was probably the best thing you ever did
4) Build Muscle - building lean muscle helps your diabetes
tremendously.
Since I started weight training a year ago, my morning BG has dropped
one
full point from 6.4 to 5.4 !!! (115 to 97)

As for some breakfast ideas? - my morning FBG is always my highest of
the
day - no doubt about it! If I wake up higher than 7 (126) (very rarely
now)
then I cut out the carbs or try to walk for 30 minutes immediately after
my
breakfast.

Here are some of my choices in the morning........

1) light or low carb bread or light English Muffins - such as Arnold or
Wegman's or WW white bread - I make toast with it and put some sugar
free
jam or reduced fat peanut butter on it - 6 carbs per slice - 5 carbs for
the
jam - 1 point for 2 slices
2) 4 oz. fat free or extra lean ham slices or 97% fat free ham steak - 0
carbs 2 points
3) egg omelet with green and red peppers, fat free ham, onions - minimal
carbs - 6 points
4) one glass of skim milk - 13 carbs - 2 points
5) one glass of 1/2 calorie orange juice - 13 carbs - 1 point
6) Here in Ontario, Canada, I love to eat peameal bacon which is lean
pork
loin with cornmeal on the outside - the one sold by Costco is only 2
points
for 4 oz.
7) couple of fried eggs over easy - 0 carbs - 4 points
8) French Toast using one beat up egg and 2 slice of low car bread -
sugar
free maple syrup - 6 carbs per slice - 3 points.
9) I know this sounds weird, but I personally like to eat olives in the
morning and kosher deli pickles with my Fat free ham slices - 0 carbs -
1
point for 6 olives, none for the pickles.
10)You can always consider any leftovers such as cold chicken or
turkey -
as
another posted - any meat, fish or poultry protein won't raise your BG
when
you eat it.
11) I also love to eat DreamFields Pasta - we can't get it here in
Canada
anymore, but I buy it in the US and it's great for most diabetics - I've
heard it affects some diabetics, but I'm one of the lucky ones - it
doesn't
affect my BG at all and it tastes just like regular pasta - you would
never
know the difference - I promise you!
12) Another thing I like to eat in the morning is fat free cheese
sandwiches - 2 fat free American cheese slices on 2 slices of low carb
bread - 3 points - 12 carbs.

Be creative.......but watch those carbs - test and get to know how many
you
can handle at each meal. Try to exercise after supper if possible and
try
to get into a weight lifting routine - you will see the difference in
within
a few days. I'll bet you already see a difference just when you walk up
and
down a few flights of stairs?

Good luck - you can do this.

Eddie
Weight June05-359.0lbs
Current Weight-284.0lbs
Loss to date=75.0lbs
Goal Weight-180.0lbs


"Michael James" wrote in message
...
I am a diabetic who needs to loose weight. I've chosen Weigh****chers
to
help me in the fight against the fat. However, I'm having trouble,
especially in the morning, with what to eat. My sugar reading is
usually
high in the morning (175 or higher) and I know that once it gets above
220
I become groggy with my head in a fog, so to speak. My doctor has me on
oral medication for diabetes, but it doesn't seem to bring my sugar
levels
down fast enough. He has refused upping my dosage, or changing me to
different medication (including insulin). I have pills to take in the
morning that require food in the stomach, so skipping breakfast is NOT
an
option.

Any ideas on what I might be able to eat that wouldn't affect my sugar
levels too much in the morning? I'm getting tired of eggs and cottage
cheese for breakfast.

Thanks!

Michael James

Michael James wrote:

Thanks for all your suggestions. I posted this note on the diabetes forums,
but this forum has been most helpful. I will try to implement as many of
the suggestion as I can. I am already considering changing doctors. The
one part I didn't mention was his only suggestion...he suggested I consider
gastric bypass. I informed him that surgery was NOT an option.

I'll check in from time to time to give you an update!

Sincerely,

Michael R. James



I am a diabetic who needs to loose weight. I've chosen Weigh****chers to
help me in the fight against the fat. However, I'm having trouble,
especially in the morning, with what to eat. My sugar reading is usually
high in the morning (175 or higher) and I know that once it gets above 220
I become groggy with my head in a fog, so to speak. My doctor has me on
oral medication for diabetes, but it doesn't seem to bring my sugar levels
down fast enough. He has refused upping my dosage, or changing me to
different medication (including insulin). I have pills to take in the
morning that require food in the stomach, so skipping breakfast is NOT an
option.

Any ideas on what I might be able to eat that wouldn't affect my sugar
levels too much in the morning? I'm getting tired of eggs and cottage
cheese for breakfast.

Thanks!

Michael James

Has he ever referred you to a nutritionist? I would be very leary of a
doctor who suggests gastric bypass before trying to get the diet under
control.

"Michael James" wrote in message
news
Michael James wrote:

Thanks for all your suggestions. I posted this note on the diabetes
forums,
but this forum has been most helpful. I will try to implement as many of
the suggestion as I can. I am already considering changing doctors. The
one part I didn't mention was his only suggestion...he suggested I
consider
gastric bypass. I informed him that surgery was NOT an option.

I'll check in from time to time to give you an update!

Sincerely,

Michael R. James



I am a diabetic who needs to loose weight. I've chosen Weigh****chers to
help me in the fight against the fat. However, I'm having trouble,
especially in the morning, with what to eat. My sugar reading is usually
high in the morning (175 or higher) and I know that once it gets above
220
I become groggy with my head in a fog, so to speak. My doctor has me on
oral medication for diabetes, but it doesn't seem to bring my sugar
levels
down fast enough. He has refused upping my dosage, or changing me to
different medication (including insulin). I have pills to take in the
morning that require food in the stomach, so skipping breakfast is NOT an
option.

Any ideas on what I might be able to eat that wouldn't affect my sugar
levels too much in the morning? I'm getting tired of eggs and cottage
cheese for breakfast.

Thanks!

Michael James

No, no nutritionist. No change in meds. His only comment was that I would
be a good candidate for a gastric bypass. Having had the maze procedure 6
years ago, I am very surgery shy. I've started the wheels in motion to
find a new doctor, one that specializes in Diabetes.

Michael

Laura wrote:

Has he ever referred you to a nutritionist? I would be very leary of a
doctor who suggests gastric bypass before trying to get the diet under
control.

"Michael James" wrote in message
news
Michael James wrote:

Thanks for all your suggestions. I posted this note on the diabetes
forums,
but this forum has been most helpful. I will try to implement as many of
the suggestion as I can. I am already considering changing doctors.
The one part I didn't mention was his only suggestion...he suggested I
consider
gastric bypass. I informed him that surgery was NOT an option.

I'll check in from time to time to give you an update!

Sincerely,

Michael R. James



I am a diabetic who needs to loose weight. I've chosen Weigh****chers
to
help me in the fight against the fat. However, I'm having trouble,
especially in the morning, with what to eat. My sugar reading is
usually high in the morning (175 or higher) and I know that once it gets
above 220
I become groggy with my head in a fog, so to speak. My doctor has me on
oral medication for diabetes, but it doesn't seem to bring my sugar
levels
down fast enough. He has refused upping my dosage, or changing me to
different medication (including insulin). I have pills to take in the
morning that require food in the stomach, so skipping breakfast is NOT
an option.

Any ideas on what I might be able to eat that wouldn't affect my sugar
levels too much in the morning? I'm getting tired of eggs and cottage
cheese for breakfast.

Thanks!

Michael James

Eddie, I'm glad to see you too. One day you will get past the holidays.
A year ago I did it with no gain. This year I went up 4 but the main
thing is you can just start again. I don't think of it as rejoining but
merely as continuing from where I left off.
Audrey

"Eddie-Type2" wrote in message
...
Thanks Lee...........I've been lurking for the last little while.
I've been
struggling since Christmas and put back on 10 lbs. I lost 2 lbs last
week
and have 8 more to get back to where I was.

I see a lot of new posters in here now.....I've just been laying low
and
reading rather than posting. You know my motto - Quitting is not an
option.

Very glad to hear from you .......

Eddie
Weight June05-359.0lbs
Current Weight-279.2lbs
Loss to date=79.8lbs
Goal Weight-180.0lbs


"Stormmee" wrote in message
...
so glad to see you post, Lee
Eddie-Type2 wrote in message
...
Michael,

I've been a type 2 diabetic for approx. 6 years and I've been
controlling
with orals meds, diet and exercise. My last HbA1c was 5.2 mmol
(which is
approx. 94 in US terms). When I was first diagnosed, my BG readings
were
averaging between 16 and 25 (288 to 450) !!!.........Here's what I
learned.........IT'S ALL ABOUT CONTROLLING YOUR CARB INTAKE......

I learned from ASD (alt.support.diabetes) that figuring out the
number of
carbs your body can handle without spiking is the key to getting your
diabetes under control.

You should read the following note for the NEWLY diagnosed from
diabetic-talk.org.....click this link and follow Jennifer's advice -
it
will
truly give you a great understanding of your diabetes and how to
control
it
http://www.diabetic-talk.org/jennifer.htm

1) Control your carb intake - find out how much you can handle per
meal by
testing. As your BG improves, you will be able to handle more carbs
than
normal. Most diabetics can handle more later in the day rather than
first
thing in the morning.
2) Exercise - exercising after a high carb meal with help reduce any
spike
in BG.
3) Lose weight - this will help with your insulin resistance -
joining WW
was probably the best thing you ever did
4) Build Muscle - building lean muscle helps your diabetes
tremendously.
Since I started weight training a year ago, my morning BG has dropped
one
full point from 6.4 to 5.4 !!! (115 to 97)

As for some breakfast ideas? - my morning FBG is always my highest of
the
day - no doubt about it! If I wake up higher than 7 (126) (very
rarely
now)
then I cut out the carbs or try to walk for 30 minutes immediately
after
my
breakfast.

Here are some of my choices in the morning........

1) light or low carb bread or light English Muffins - such as Arnold
or
Wegman's or WW white bread - I make toast with it and put some sugar
free
jam or reduced fat peanut butter on it - 6 carbs per slice - 5 carbs
for
the
jam - 1 point for 2 slices
2) 4 oz. fat free or extra lean ham slices or 97% fat free ham
steak - 0
carbs 2 points
3) egg omelet with green and red peppers, fat free ham, onions -
minimal
carbs - 6 points
4) one glass of skim milk - 13 carbs - 2 points
5) one glass of 1/2 calorie orange juice - 13 carbs - 1 point
6) Here in Ontario, Canada, I love to eat peameal bacon which is
lean
pork
loin with cornmeal on the outside - the one sold by Costco is only 2
points
for 4 oz.
7) couple of fried eggs over easy - 0 carbs - 4 points
8) French Toast using one beat up egg and 2 slice of low car bread -
sugar
free maple syrup - 6 carbs per slice - 3 points.
9) I know this sounds weird, but I personally like to eat olives in
the
morning and kosher deli pickles with my Fat free ham slices - 0
carbs - 1
point for 6 olives, none for the pickles.
10)You can always consider any leftovers such as cold chicken or
turkey -
as
another posted - any meat, fish or poultry protein won't raise your
BG
when
you eat it.
11) I also love to eat DreamFields Pasta - we can't get it here in
Canada
anymore, but I buy it in the US and it's great for most diabetics -
I've
heard it affects some diabetics, but I'm one of the lucky ones - it
doesn't
affect my BG at all and it tastes just like regular pasta - you would
never
know the difference - I promise you!
12) Another thing I like to eat in the morning is fat free cheese
sandwiches - 2 fat free American cheese slices on 2 slices of low
carb
bread - 3 points - 12 carbs.

Be creative.......but watch those carbs - test and get to know how
many
you
can handle at each meal. Try to exercise after supper if possible
and try
to get into a weight lifting routine - you will see the difference in
within
a few days. I'll bet you already see a difference just when you walk
up
and
down a few flights of stairs?

Good luck - you can do this.

Eddie
Weight June05-359.0lbs
Current Weight-284.0lbs
Loss to date=75.0lbs
Goal Weight-180.0lbs


"Michael James" wrote in message
...
I am a diabetic who needs to loose weight. I've chosen
Weigh****chers to
help me in the fight against the fat. However, I'm having trouble,
especially in the morning, with what to eat. My sugar reading is
usually
high in the morning (175 or higher) and I know that once it gets
above 220
I become groggy with my head in a fog, so to speak. My doctor has me
on
oral medication for diabetes, but it doesn't seem to bring my sugar
levels
down fast enough. He has refused upping my dosage, or changing me to
different medication (including insulin). I have pills to take in
the
morning that require food in the stomach, so skipping breakfast is
NOT an
option.

Any ideas on what I might be able to eat that wouldn't affect my
sugar
levels too much in the morning? I'm getting tired of eggs and
cottage
cheese for breakfast.

Thanks!

Michael James

Good for you. there are lots of GB surgeries done where I live and as
you know, not all of the outcomes are positive. Surgery should be the
last option. If you find a diabetes specialist, you will get the help
and information you need.
Audrey

"Michael James" wrote in message
...
No, no nutritionist. No change in meds. His only comment was that I
would
be a good candidate for a gastric bypass. Having had the maze
procedure 6
years ago, I am very surgery shy. I've started the wheels in motion
to
find a new doctor, one that specializes in Diabetes.

Michael

Laura wrote:

Has he ever referred you to a nutritionist? I would be very leary of
a
doctor who suggests gastric bypass before trying to get the diet
under
control.

"Michael James" wrote in message
news
Michael James wrote:

Thanks for all your suggestions. I posted this note on the diabetes
forums,
but this forum has been most helpful. I will try to implement as
many of
the suggestion as I can. I am already considering changing
doctors.
The one part I didn't mention was his only suggestion...he suggested
I
consider
gastric bypass. I informed him that surgery was NOT an option.

I'll check in from time to time to give you an update!

Sincerely,

Michael R. James



I am a diabetic who needs to loose weight. I've chosen
Weigh****chers
to
help me in the fight against the fat. However, I'm having trouble,
especially in the morning, with what to eat. My sugar reading is
usually high in the morning (175 or higher) and I know that once it
gets
above 220
I become groggy with my head in a fog, so to speak. My doctor has
me on
oral medication for diabetes, but it doesn't seem to bring my sugar
levels
down fast enough. He has refused upping my dosage, or changing me
to
different medication (including insulin). I have pills to take in
the
morning that require food in the stomach, so skipping breakfast is
NOT
an option.

Any ideas on what I might be able to eat that wouldn't affect my
sugar
levels too much in the morning? I'm getting tired of eggs and
cottage
cheese for breakfast.

Thanks!

Michael James

thanks so much for your support Lee.......it's a nice feeling to be missed

I've never left.......and have most certainly not even considered
quitting...........I'm kind of just floating around in the middle of the
lake, I've dropped my anchor and I'm catching my breath and building my
strength to get back to rowing over to the sunny shore on the other side
..........no way I'm ever going back to the stormy (no pun intended!) side
where I came from

Eddie
Weight June05-359.0lbs
Current Weight-284.0lbs
Loss to date=75.0lbs
Goal Weight-180.0lbs


"Stormmee" wrote in message
...
sometimes it is a struggle but you are not quitting and that is what
matters, come back and post soon we miss you, Lee
Eddie-Type2 wrote in message
...
Thanks Lee...........I've been lurking for the last little while. I've
been
struggling since Christmas and put back on 10 lbs. I lost 2 lbs last week
and have 8 more to get back to where I was.

I see a lot of new posters in here now.....I've just been laying low and
reading rather than posting. You know my motto - Quitting is not an
option.

Very glad to hear from you .......

Eddie
Weight June05-359.0lbs
Current Weight-279.2lbs
Loss to date=79.8lbs
Goal Weight-180.0lbs


"Stormmee" wrote in message
...
so glad to see you post, Lee
Eddie-Type2 wrote in message
...
Michael,

I've been a type 2 diabetic for approx. 6 years and I've been
controlling
with orals meds, diet and exercise. My last HbA1c was 5.2 mmol (which
is
approx. 94 in US terms). When I was first diagnosed, my BG readings
were
averaging between 16 and 25 (288 to 450) !!!.........Here's what I
learned.........IT'S ALL ABOUT CONTROLLING YOUR CARB INTAKE......

I learned from ASD (alt.support.diabetes) that figuring out the number
of
carbs your body can handle without spiking is the key to getting your
diabetes under control.

You should read the following note for the NEWLY diagnosed from
diabetic-talk.org.....click this link and follow Jennifer's advice - it
will
truly give you a great understanding of your diabetes and how to control
it
http://www.diabetic-talk.org/jennifer.htm

1) Control your carb intake - find out how much you can handle per meal
by
testing. As your BG improves, you will be able to handle more carbs
than
normal. Most diabetics can handle more later in the day rather than
first
thing in the morning.
2) Exercise - exercising after a high carb meal with help reduce any
spike
in BG.
3) Lose weight - this will help with your insulin resistance - joining
WW
was probably the best thing you ever did
4) Build Muscle - building lean muscle helps your diabetes
tremendously.
Since I started weight training a year ago, my morning BG has dropped
one
full point from 6.4 to 5.4 !!! (115 to 97)

As for some breakfast ideas? - my morning FBG is always my highest of
the
day - no doubt about it! If I wake up higher than 7 (126) (very rarely
now)
then I cut out the carbs or try to walk for 30 minutes immediately after
my
breakfast.

Here are some of my choices in the morning........

1) light or low carb bread or light English Muffins - such as Arnold or
Wegman's or WW white bread - I make toast with it and put some sugar
free
jam or reduced fat peanut butter on it - 6 carbs per slice - 5 carbs for
the
jam - 1 point for 2 slices
2) 4 oz. fat free or extra lean ham slices or 97% fat free ham steak - 0
carbs 2 points
3) egg omelet with green and red peppers, fat free ham, onions - minimal
carbs - 6 points
4) one glass of skim milk - 13 carbs - 2 points
5) one glass of 1/2 calorie orange juice - 13 carbs - 1 point
6) Here in Ontario, Canada, I love to eat peameal bacon which is lean
pork
loin with cornmeal on the outside - the one sold by Costco is only 2
points
for 4 oz.
7) couple of fried eggs over easy - 0 carbs - 4 points
8) French Toast using one beat up egg and 2 slice of low car bread -
sugar
free maple syrup - 6 carbs per slice - 3 points.
9) I know this sounds weird, but I personally like to eat olives in the
morning and kosher deli pickles with my Fat free ham slices - 0 carbs -
1
point for 6 olives, none for the pickles.
10)You can always consider any leftovers such as cold chicken or
turkey -
as
another posted - any meat, fish or poultry protein won't raise your BG
when
you eat it.
11) I also love to eat DreamFields Pasta - we can't get it here in
Canada
anymore, but I buy it in the US and it's great for most diabetics - I've
heard it affects some diabetics, but I'm one of the lucky ones - it
doesn't
affect my BG at all and it tastes just like regular pasta - you would
never
know the difference - I promise you!
12) Another thing I like to eat in the morning is fat free cheese
sandwiches - 2 fat free American cheese slices on 2 slices of low carb
bread - 3 points - 12 carbs.

Be creative.......but watch those carbs - test and get to know how many
you
can handle at each meal. Try to exercise after supper if possible and
try
to get into a weight lifting routine - you will see the difference in
within
a few days. I'll bet you already see a difference just when you walk up
and
down a few flights of stairs?

Good luck - you can do this.

Eddie
Weight June05-359.0lbs
Current Weight-284.0lbs
Loss to date=75.0lbs
Goal Weight-180.0lbs


"Michael James" wrote in message
...
I am a diabetic who needs to loose weight. I've chosen Weigh****chers
to
help me in the fight against the fat. However, I'm having trouble,
especially in the morning, with what to eat. My sugar reading is
usually
high in the morning (175 or higher) and I know that once it gets above
220
I become groggy with my head in a fog, so to speak. My doctor has me on
oral medication for diabetes, but it doesn't seem to bring my sugar
levels
down fast enough. He has refused upping my dosage, or changing me to
different medication (including insulin). I have pills to take in the
morning that require food in the stomach, so skipping breakfast is NOT
an
option.

Any ideas on what I might be able to eat that wouldn't affect my sugar
levels too much in the morning? I'm getting tired of eggs and cottage
cheese for breakfast.

Thanks!

Michael James