Anniversary dinner

"The Queen of Cans and Jars" wrote in message
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or you could just take your sanctimonious crap and shove it.

If I were indulging in carbs or failing at weight loss, my preaching might
be sanctimonious. However, I have maintained my purity. Over the last 8
months I have kept an average of 28 net carbs per day.

As I recall, I did have some pizza, back in February. I learned from my
mistake.

I have cast my pearls before a swine with eloquence characterized by a
polysyllabic vocabulary.

Cubit wrote:

There have been many posts about eating excessive carbs, where the
poster seems to be bragging about the carby thing they are going to
eat. It usually comes with a collection of rationalizations about
why the carbs are ok on this occasion. Often the occasion is in some
way "special."

Did my original post fall into this original category? It didn't seem so to
me. First, I don't believe I did any bragging. Second, the whole point of
my post was how I planned to *avoid* eating "excessive" carbs - excessive
for me, that is.

To really succeed at this LC thing, we need to adjust to the LC
way-of-life. At the time of my comment, I was really thinking about
the effect these posts have on others, but as a mechanism of self
delusion, they might be unwise for the posters as well.

Do you believe that I am not adjusting to the LC way of life? Actually, I
should take that back. I don't really care whether you think so, because
what it appears you think of as the ("the" - that's your word) LC way of
life is not actually the way of life I am trying to live.

I did not mean to suggest that you should not share about your
approach to managing low carb. Maybe, instead of pointing out the
adverse effect your falling off the wagon (jumping) might have on
others, I should have simply chastized you for it. Hmmm.

laughing I hardly would have found your comments more compelling if you
had done so! Really, all I was asking for was some clarification. Also, I
point out again that you and I do not appear to be riding the same wagon.

I don't
like a punative approach. Indeed, with that in mind, I should have
pointed out how wonderful your health and appearance will be if you
can stick to things.

You don't like a punitive approach? I can believe that. You seem to prefer
a sanctimonious and dogmatic one. Okay then.

I recently attended a birthday gathering where only two of us ate
nothing, while the group, about 30, had full carb ice cream and
cake. Everybody seemed to accept this. I was surprised. I thought
I would catch some flack for not eating it. Apparently, here in the
Silicon Valley, low carb is respected, even by those who do not
participate. January's surge in the press may have had an impression.

I'll tell you something - a comment I've made before here - folks often seem
to expect that they will be somehow ostracized for making different food
choices than everyone else, but like you I have not found this to be the
case. (And I do not live in the Silicon Valley.) Occasionally, someone
will ask me "are you sure?" when I turn down a piece of cake or whatnot, but
that's really the end of it. I don't ever find myself having to defend that
choice to an army of curious officemates, as others seem to describe. So
I'm with you on this - I make my choices, I'm firm about them without
offering rafts of defensive explanations, and that's the end of it.

Low Carb fails, when dieters return to eating the carbs. Viewing
carby meals as special treats is setting the stage for future
failure. We should, like Iggy, actively search for the path to
lifelong success.

That is precisely what I am doing. Except I am not doing it "like Iggy" -
because I am not Iggy, I am carla. Is it necessary that we each follow the
same path? That's a rhetorical question - if your answer is "yes," it's
not going to convince me to convert to your religion.

Let me ask you a non-rhetorical question: why do you view one off-plan meal
as a failure? Considering how I would have approached this anniversary meal
were I not consciously trying to control my eating, to me this evening feels
like a grand, tremendous success.

--
carla
http://geekofalltrades.typepad.com/geek

Cubit wrote:

There have been many posts about eating excessive carbs, where the
poster seems to be bragging about the carby thing they are going to
eat. It usually comes with a collection of rationalizations about
why the carbs are ok on this occasion. Often the occasion is in some
way "special."

Did my original post fall into this original category? It didn't seem so to
me. First, I don't believe I did any bragging. Second, the whole point of
my post was how I planned to *avoid* eating "excessive" carbs - excessive
for me, that is.

To really succeed at this LC thing, we need to adjust to the LC
way-of-life. At the time of my comment, I was really thinking about
the effect these posts have on others, but as a mechanism of self
delusion, they might be unwise for the posters as well.

Do you believe that I am not adjusting to the LC way of life? Actually, I
should take that back. I don't really care whether you think so, because
what it appears you think of as the ("the" - that's your word) LC way of
life is not actually the way of life I am trying to live.

I did not mean to suggest that you should not share about your
approach to managing low carb. Maybe, instead of pointing out the
adverse effect your falling off the wagon (jumping) might have on
others, I should have simply chastized you for it. Hmmm.

laughing I hardly would have found your comments more compelling if you
had done so! Really, all I was asking for was some clarification. Also, I
point out again that you and I do not appear to be riding the same wagon.

I don't
like a punative approach. Indeed, with that in mind, I should have
pointed out how wonderful your health and appearance will be if you
can stick to things.

You don't like a punitive approach? I can believe that. You seem to prefer
a sanctimonious and dogmatic one. Okay then.

I recently attended a birthday gathering where only two of us ate
nothing, while the group, about 30, had full carb ice cream and
cake. Everybody seemed to accept this. I was surprised. I thought
I would catch some flack for not eating it. Apparently, here in the
Silicon Valley, low carb is respected, even by those who do not
participate. January's surge in the press may have had an impression.

I'll tell you something - a comment I've made before here - folks often seem
to expect that they will be somehow ostracized for making different food
choices than everyone else, but like you I have not found this to be the
case. (And I do not live in the Silicon Valley.) Occasionally, someone
will ask me "are you sure?" when I turn down a piece of cake or whatnot, but
that's really the end of it. I don't ever find myself having to defend that
choice to an army of curious officemates, as others seem to describe. So
I'm with you on this - I make my choices, I'm firm about them without
offering rafts of defensive explanations, and that's the end of it.

Low Carb fails, when dieters return to eating the carbs. Viewing
carby meals as special treats is setting the stage for future
failure. We should, like Iggy, actively search for the path to
lifelong success.

That is precisely what I am doing. Except I am not doing it "like Iggy" -
because I am not Iggy, I am carla. Is it necessary that we each follow the
same path? That's a rhetorical question - if your answer is "yes," it's
not going to convince me to convert to your religion.

Let me ask you a non-rhetorical question: why do you view one off-plan meal
as a failure? Considering how I would have approached this anniversary meal
were I not consciously trying to control my eating, to me this evening feels
like a grand, tremendous success.

--
carla
http://geekofalltrades.typepad.com/geek

Ignoramus26161 wrote:

Hm, don't they serve kebabs or some sort of big lamb pieces?

That's more or less what I had, except chicken instead of lamb. I actually
eat lamb kebab all the time - there's a wonderful Lebanese restaurant down
the block from my home.

The bread, I would skip entirely.

That's nice.

--
carla
http://geekofalltrades.typepad.com/geek

Ignoramus26161 wrote:

Hm, don't they serve kebabs or some sort of big lamb pieces?

That's more or less what I had, except chicken instead of lamb. I actually
eat lamb kebab all the time - there's a wonderful Lebanese restaurant down
the block from my home.

The bread, I would skip entirely.

That's nice.

--
carla
http://geekofalltrades.typepad.com/geek

In your case, the food obviously keeps you full of ****. Sit down and
take a hard one, you'll feel better. :-)

--
Cheri

JC Der Koenig wrote in message ...
It's only food that made you fat, and it's only food that keeps you
that
way.

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. --
MFW

In your case, the food obviously keeps you full of ****. Sit down and
take a hard one, you'll feel better. :-)

--
Cheri

JC Der Koenig wrote in message ...
It's only food that made you fat, and it's only food that keeps you
that
way.

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. --
MFW

Ignoramus26161 wrote:

Hm, don't they serve kebabs or some sort of big lamb pieces?

The bread, I would skip entirely.


Double follow-up here, because I'd like to add one more comment. Unlike
many folks around here who prepare most of their meals at home, I eat out
very frequently, and know how to make good choices that are consistent with
my eating plan. I eat lunch every day and frequently dinner at my office
cafeteria and avoid all manner of temptation there. I eat dinner at
restaurants - frequently excellent restaurants, but also ordinary ones like
Pizzeria Uno - once or twice a week. I know how to order the grilled steak
or chicken with a side of vegetables. I don't eat the bread just because it
is in front of me. And I don't go off plan just because there is an
opportunity to do so.

This evening was my anniversary, and my husband and I went to the same
wonderful restaurant where we have celebrated every anniversary since our
first. This was not merely someone's birthday party, or someone's barbeque,
or some generic excuse to misbehave, and my posting about it here was not
some kind of rationalization. This was a very special and rare occasion - I
likely won't have another like it for many months - and I planned for it,
altered the way I ate during the day in anticipation of it, and approached
it with a plan of attack that led me to have a much better and closer to
healthy meal (and day as a whole) than I would have had if I'd been on no
plan at all or if I'd approached this as a caution-to-the-winds cheat day.

As a person who has been a no-holds-barred, if-it-tastes-good-keep-eating-it
face-stuffer her entire life, I consider this a massive success. Moderation
in all things is my long term goal.

--
carla
http://geekofalltrades.typepad.com/geek

Ignoramus26161 wrote:

Hm, don't they serve kebabs or some sort of big lamb pieces?

The bread, I would skip entirely.


Double follow-up here, because I'd like to add one more comment. Unlike
many folks around here who prepare most of their meals at home, I eat out
very frequently, and know how to make good choices that are consistent with
my eating plan. I eat lunch every day and frequently dinner at my office
cafeteria and avoid all manner of temptation there. I eat dinner at
restaurants - frequently excellent restaurants, but also ordinary ones like
Pizzeria Uno - once or twice a week. I know how to order the grilled steak
or chicken with a side of vegetables. I don't eat the bread just because it
is in front of me. And I don't go off plan just because there is an
opportunity to do so.

This evening was my anniversary, and my husband and I went to the same
wonderful restaurant where we have celebrated every anniversary since our
first. This was not merely someone's birthday party, or someone's barbeque,
or some generic excuse to misbehave, and my posting about it here was not
some kind of rationalization. This was a very special and rare occasion - I
likely won't have another like it for many months - and I planned for it,
altered the way I ate during the day in anticipation of it, and approached
it with a plan of attack that led me to have a much better and closer to
healthy meal (and day as a whole) than I would have had if I'd been on no
plan at all or if I'd approached this as a caution-to-the-winds cheat day.

As a person who has been a no-holds-barred, if-it-tastes-good-keep-eating-it
face-stuffer her entire life, I consider this a massive success. Moderation
in all things is my long term goal.

--
carla
http://geekofalltrades.typepad.com/geek

If you remember that you had pizza, in February no less, I would say
that you haven't come to terms with this WOE, and a normal relationship
with food. You'll get there in time. :-)

--
Cheri

Cubit wrote in message
. ..

As I recall, I did have some pizza, back in February. I learned from
my
mistake.