How do you keep your focus?

Hey Martha,

What keeps me focused is a few things.

The BIGGEST thing is, if I mess up for one day, I don't completely collapse.
Unless you're a robot, and let's be honest, who is (?), there will be times
when you wander for your Way of Eating. But what has saved me is that I
shrug off the dust and get back on the horse.

And, I look pretty darn good these days. That helps.

Go ahead strut... applause applause ...... strut......strut

Fitting into Size 10 helps.

That success feels good.
I suppose you're not 4'2" in a Size 10 :^)


And, continually reminding myself that I'm a good person really helps. I'm
the type of person who punishes myself by eating too much.

I always looked at it as the peace in the tempest. You've given me a
new way to look at ice cream ---bad food...bad!

Right before Thanksgiving a large grocery store chain had premium ice
cream on a give-a-way sale of $1.88/half gallon. I thought it was
the make-fat demon laughing at me. I haven't seen that price in ten
years.
Mike


Martha

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Hey Martha,

What keeps me focused is a few things.

The BIGGEST thing is, if I mess up for one day, I don't completely
collapse.
Unless you're a robot, and let's be honest, who is (?), there will be
times
when you wander for your Way of Eating. But what has saved me is that I
shrug off the dust and get back on the horse.

And, I look pretty darn good these days. That helps.

Go ahead strut... applause applause ...... strut......strut

: D

Fitting into Size 10 helps.

That success feels good.
I suppose you're not 4'2" in a Size 10 :^)

Nope, 5'5", 148 pounds.

And, continually reminding myself that I'm a good person really helps.
I'm
the type of person who punishes myself by eating too much.

I always looked at it as the peace in the tempest. You've given me a
new way to look at ice cream ---bad food...bad!

Right before Thanksgiving a large grocery store chain had premium ice
cream on a give-a-way sale of $1.88/half gallon. I thought it was
the make-fat demon laughing at me. I haven't seen that price in ten
years.
Mike

Also, I'm a "foodie". I like GOOD food. I like gourmet food. I'm not much of
an ice cream eater, but if I am, it's either ice cream I make myself (and
share with friends), or it's a scoop of the awesome ice cream from one of
the boutique ice cream parlors around town.

When it comes to certain foods, I simply will not settle for something that
isn't the best. And, in that way, I can have it rarely, and enjoy it more.

Martha

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FitDay says I can breakeven at almost 5000 calories a day without
exercise. Has anyone found those calculations to be true!

That's one of the areas fitday is really bad at measuring. The base
metabolic rate is highly over estimated.

The other area I have a problem with fitday is when it comes to basic
ingredients. It's too difficult to find raw tomatoes, for example. IMO, raw
ingredients should be the first of the food lists, not hidden away behind a
bunch of packaged stuff.

Martha

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FitDay says I can breakeven at almost 5000 calories a day without
exercise. Has anyone found those calculations to be true!

That's one of the areas fitday is really bad at measuring. The base
metabolic rate is highly over estimated.

The other area I have a problem with fitday is when it comes to basic
ingredients. It's too difficult to find raw tomatoes, for example. IMO,
raw
ingredients should be the first of the food lists, not hidden away behind
a
bunch of packaged stuff.

Martha


Have you tried using their search feature for these types of things.
Entering 'raw tomato' will get it for you. I hate searching through their
categories, too.

Beverly

Mike,

I also try to lose weight slowly so hunger doesn't overwhelm me. I'm
not willing to endure hunger. I believe the key is to try to change
your setpoint to a lower weight by exercising more and eating
healthier foods. Finally, exercise can help you have a lower pc body
fat at a given weight.

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On 1 Dec 2003 07:44:51 -0800, (Brad
Sheppard) wrote:

One hour plus of exercise daily helps. Would you want to blow all
that effort by eating donuts or other junk food? Also, forcing myself
to do a daily weigh-in. Tough love!

I know a couple of freaky bodybuilders who eat anything they want
anytime. They like to brag a little about that, but I've questioned
a few times how those bad habits will catch up to them when full time
lifting and exercise can't be fit into their schedules.

I've done the daily weigh-in. That hurts more than helps for me,
but....
The daily Fitday thing is Tough Love that keeps me honest.
It still gets back to sticking with it long enough to make the
difference.

Mike

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FitDay says I can breakeven at almost 5000 calories a day without
exercise. Has anyone found those calculations to be true!

That's one of the areas fitday is really bad at measuring. The base
metabolic rate is highly over estimated.

The other area I have a problem with fitday is when it comes to basic
ingredients. It's too difficult to find raw tomatoes, for example. IMO,
raw
ingredients should be the first of the food lists, not hidden away
behind
a
bunch of packaged stuff.

Martha


Have you tried using their search feature for these types of things.
Entering 'raw tomato' will get it for you. I hate searching through their
categories, too.

Beverly

Yes, sometimes it will, but a lot of times, you'll get nothing until you get
used to their lingo. It's just something one has to work around on an
otherwise great website.

Martha

On 12/1/2003 11:32 PM, MH wrote:
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On 1 Dec 2003 14:20:45 GMT, Ignoramus15011
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You may be going on weird fad diets and crash diets instead of
adopting a sensible weight loss programs. Like, now you are suddenly a
lacto ovo vegetarian. Why?

No weird fad diets or crashes.
I've been lacto ovo since 1982.

I see. Are you on it for non-diet reasons (such as ethical reasons)?
If you are in it for health, you may observe that it is not working
well!


??? Realize that ig is NOT a doctor nor a nutritionist.

He's not?! Oh my! ;-)

Being a lacto-ovo
vegetarian is fine. Just makes sure you're getting all the nutrients you
need.

Of course being lacto-ovo is fine. Actually, I know a lot of people,
myself included, who are not vegetarian but eat vegetarian a few tims a
week. I do think that you probably need to really stay on top of
getting all of your nutrients / eating a balanced diet no mather what
your WOE.

Also, you are probably already aware of this but Johns Hopkins and other
schools are involved in a Meatless Monday campaign
(http://www.jhsph.edu/Press_Room/Pres...ess_deans.html). I
realize that this is different that being vegetarian all of the time but
it does make some good points about the healthful aspects of NOT eating
meat.

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jmk in NC

On 12/3/2003 8:44 AM, Ignoramus11065 wrote:
jmk wrote:


On 12/1/2003 11:32 PM, MH wrote:

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On 1 Dec 2003 14:20:45 GMT, Ignoramus15011
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You may be going on weird fad diets and crash diets instead of
adopting a sensible weight loss programs. Like, now you are suddenly a
lacto ovo vegetarian. Why?

No weird fad diets or crashes.
I've been lacto ovo since 1982.

I see. Are you on it for non-diet reasons (such as ethical reasons)?
If you are in it for health, you may observe that it is not working
well!


??? Realize that ig is NOT a doctor nor a nutritionist.

He's not?! Oh my! ;-)

The guy weighs 360 lbs. Do you really need to be a doctor to observe
that his current diet, to which he adhered for several years, is not
working very well?

Ig, you seem to state that being lacto ovo vegetarian is inherently bad.
That simply is not the case. Just like any other dietary choice, it
does matter what food and how much of them you eat. A month or two ago
someone posted that EXCESS was bad and that is certainly a good point.
Excess calories, sugar, living on only apples or ice cream etc. is not a
good thing. The choice is necessarily being or not being lacto-ovo
vegetarian but what your food choices are within that category. I mean,
I think that we all now "low fat" or "low carb" people who have just a
terrible diet (very high in refined sugar or very high in saturated fat,
etc.). My point is simply that being vegetarian is not inherently bad
and the OP does not have to compromise his ethics in order to lose
weight. Implying that the OP does need to compromise his morals in
order to lose weight is hardly supportive.

A more helpful suggestion might be to go to a bookstore and look at some
of these books

1,001 Low-Fat Vegetarian Recipes
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...375964-9056763

The Mayo Clinic Williams-Sonoma Cookbook
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...glance&s=books

Both books contain nutritional information for each of the recipes. The
second one has a nice section on vegetarian meals. I find it helpful
when cookbooks have nutritional information for each recipe.

Also, I'm pretty sure the Moosewood books also have nutritional
information. I don't own any of them but they might be worth taking a
look at.
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jmk in NC

A more helpful suggestion might be to go to a bookstore and look at some
of these books

A more helpful suggestion *to the original poster* might be to look at
these books, all of which contain nutritional information. This might
be beneficial to a weight lose plan. You know the drill

- eat less
- exercise more
- know what you are eating (recipes with nutrional info can be helpful here)
- consider using a logging tool such as fitday.com


1,001 Low-Fat Vegetarian Recipes
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...375964-9056763

The Mayo Clinic Williams-Sonoma Cookbook
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...glance&s=books

Both books contain nutritional information for each of the recipes. The
second one has a nice section on vegetarian meals. I find it helpful
when cookbooks have nutritional information for each recipe.

Also, I'm pretty sure the Moosewood books also have nutritional
information. I don't own any of them but they might be worth taking a
look at.

FWIW, another source of recipes with nutritional info is allrecipes.com

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jmk in NC