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Old December 5th, 2005, 10:56 AM posted to alt.support.diet
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I have a question for you folks. My Yoga teacher told our class that when
you eat a vegetarian diet you need to be mindful that you get all essential
amino acids from the proteins we eat, for instance beans should be mixed
with whole grain rice for example. Then I talked to a friend of mine the
other day who said that this was an old theory and that it is possible to
get complete proteins from some beans, such as chickpeas and other types of
beans and things (non-animal based). I researched this online to try and
find out the truth, and the general consensus I came to was that chickpeas
are incomplete, however I have no way of verifying this because I have no
list of the amino acids in chickpeas and have not been able to find any
websites which list this. In addition I have no way of knowing who is
right...my Yoga teacher or my friend. Are there beans and/r other
non-animal based foods which supply all essential amino acids. If anybody
knows anything which might help me please let me know. I am not a
vegetarian but I am trying to research amino acids for my own personal
nutritional knowledge. Thank you for your time.


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Old December 5th, 2005, 02:07 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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Double wrote in message ...
I have a question for you folks. My Yoga teacher told our class that when
you eat a vegetarian diet you need to be mindful that you get all

essential
amino acids from the proteins we eat, for instance beans should be mixed
with whole grain rice for example. Then I talked to a friend of mine the
other day who said that this was an old theory and that it is possible to
get complete proteins from some beans, such as chickpeas and other types

of
beans and things (non-animal based). I researched this online to try and
find out the truth, and the general consensus I came to was that chickpeas
are incomplete, however I have no way of verifying this because I have no
list of the amino acids in chickpeas and have not been able to find any
websites which list this. In addition I have no way of knowing who is
right...my Yoga teacher or my friend. Are there beans and/r other
non-animal based foods which supply all essential amino acids. If anybody
knows anything which might help me please let me know. I am not a
vegetarian but I am trying to research amino acids for my own personal
nutritional knowledge. Thank you for your time.



It's now believed that the body stores the amino acids for a couple of days
in the body. Therefore, you don't have to combine different types of foods
in one meal but rather over the course of a couple of days. In other words,
if you have beans for lunch today and you have rice for lunch tomorrow, the
varied amino acids work together to give you the complete protein you need.

Sorry, that's not exactly the answer to your question, but just a wee bit of
info.

H.


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Old December 5th, 2005, 02:38 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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Double wrote in message ...
I have a question for you folks. My Yoga teacher told our class that when
you eat a vegetarian diet you need to be mindful that you get all

essential
amino acids from the proteins we eat, for instance beans should be mixed
with whole grain rice for example. Then I talked to a friend of mine the
other day who said that this was an old theory and that it is possible to
get complete proteins from some beans, such as chickpeas and other types

of
beans and things (non-animal based). I researched this online to try and
find out the truth, and the general consensus I came to was that chickpeas
are incomplete, however I have no way of verifying this because I have no
list of the amino acids in chickpeas and have not been able to find any
websites which list this. In addition I have no way of knowing who is
right...my Yoga teacher or my friend. Are there beans and/r other
non-animal based foods which supply all essential amino acids. If anybody
knows anything which might help me please let me know. I am not a
vegetarian but I am trying to research amino acids for my own personal
nutritional knowledge. Thank you for your time.


I'm not sure any plant based food provides all the essential amino acids but
chick peas are listed as one of the better sources in this article along
with tofu, lentils, baked beans, peanuts, etc.
http://www.vegsoc.org/info/protein.html

General information on combining foods to obtain complete protein.
http://nutrition.about.com/od/askyou...tein_combo.htm


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Old December 5th, 2005, 03:04 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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Double wrote in message ...
I have a question for you folks. My Yoga teacher told our class that when
you eat a vegetarian diet you need to be mindful that you get all

essential
amino acids from the proteins we eat, for instance beans should be mixed
with whole grain rice for example. Then I talked to a friend of mine the
other day who said that this was an old theory and that it is possible to
get complete proteins from some beans, such as chickpeas and other types

of
beans and things (non-animal based). I researched this online to try and
find out the truth, and the general consensus I came to was that chickpeas
are incomplete, however I have no way of verifying this because I have no
list of the amino acids in chickpeas and have not been able to find any
websites which list this. In addition I have no way of knowing who is
right...my Yoga teacher or my friend. Are there beans and/r other
non-animal based foods which supply all essential amino acids. If anybody
knows anything which might help me please let me know. I am not a
vegetarian but I am trying to research amino acids for my own personal
nutritional knowledge. Thank you for your time.


I'm not sure any plant based food provides all the essential amino acids but
chick peas are listed as one of the better sources in this article along
with tofu, lentils, baked beans, peanuts, etc.
http://www.vegsoc.org/info/protein.html

General information on combining foods to obtain complete protein.
http://nutrition.about.com/od/askyou...tein_combo.htm



Vegetarians that use dairy will benefit by combining that type of
protein with the legumes. here are other beneficial combos:

Some foods which may be combined to provide a good balance of amino
acids a
€ cereal + milk as breakfast cereal and milk
€ pasta + cheese as macaroni and cheese
€ rice + milk as rice pudding
€ wheat + peanuts as peanut butter sandwich
€ beans + wheat as baked beans and brown bread
€ peas + rye as split pea soup and rye bread
€ beans + corn as refried beans and tortillas



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Old December 5th, 2005, 03:08 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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Double wrote:
I have a question for you folks. My Yoga teacher told our class that when
you eat a vegetarian diet you need to be mindful that you get all essential
amino acids from the proteins we eat, for instance beans should be mixed
with whole grain rice for example. Then I talked to a friend of mine the
other day who said that this was an old theory and that it is possible to
get complete proteins from some beans, such as chickpeas and other types of
beans and things (non-animal based). I researched this online to try and
find out the truth, and the general consensus I came to was that chickpeas
are incomplete, however I have no way of verifying this because I have no
list of the amino acids in chickpeas and have not been able to find any
websites which list this. In addition I have no way of knowing who is
right...my Yoga teacher or my friend. Are there beans and/r other
non-animal based foods which supply all essential amino acids. If anybody
knows anything which might help me please let me know. I am not a
vegetarian but I am trying to research amino acids for my own personal
nutritional knowledge. Thank you for your time.




This one supports what your yoga teacher said. I haven't read it in a
while and don't have the time to proof read right now. I believe it
discussed combining foods to create whole proteins. It was a good read
at the time. I believe this article also stated that meat protein
sources lose their nutrient value to the human body when cooked.

Hope it helps.

http://www.alphaomegafood.com/protein_truth.htm



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Old December 5th, 2005, 04:41 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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You might consider a protein powder supplement, and maybe some B12.

Double wrote in message ...
I have a question for you folks. My Yoga teacher told our class that when
you eat a vegetarian diet you need to be mindful that you get all

essential
amino acids from the proteins we eat, for instance beans should be mixed
with whole grain rice for example. Then I talked to a friend of mine the
other day who said that this was an old theory and that it is possible to
get complete proteins from some beans, such as chickpeas and other types

of
beans and things (non-animal based). I researched this online to try and
find out the truth, and the general consensus I came to was that chickpeas
are incomplete, however I have no way of verifying this because I have no
list of the amino acids in chickpeas and have not been able to find any
websites which list this. In addition I have no way of knowing who is
right...my Yoga teacher or my friend. Are there beans and/r other
non-animal based foods which supply all essential amino acids. If anybody
knows anything which might help me please let me know. I am not a
vegetarian but I am trying to research amino acids for my own personal
nutritional knowledge. Thank you for your time.




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Old December 6th, 2005, 01:10 AM posted to alt.support.diet
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He isn't a yoga teacher, but Jack Norris is an R.D. (registered
dietitian) and he has thorough, but short and free intro to veg*n nutrition:

http://www.veganhealth.org/sh/
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Old December 6th, 2005, 01:12 AM posted to alt.support.diet
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Double wrote in message ...
beans and things (non-animal based). I researched this online to try and
find out the truth, and the general consensus I came to was that chickpeas
are incomplete, however I have no way of verifying this because I have no
list of the amino acids in chickpeas and have not been able to find any
websites which list this.


The USDA food database has this information. The data for 100g of chickpeas
is he

http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcom...st_nut_edit.pl

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Old December 6th, 2005, 01:35 AM posted to alt.support.diet
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Double wrote in message ...
I have a question for you folks. My Yoga teacher told our class that when
you eat a vegetarian diet you need to be mindful that you get all essential
amino acids from the proteins we eat, for instance beans should be mixed
with whole grain rice for example. Then I talked to a friend of mine the
other day who said that this was an old theory and that it is possible to
get complete proteins from some beans, such as chickpeas and other types of
beans and things (non-animal based). I researched this online to try and
find out the truth, and the general consensus I came to was that chickpeas
are incomplete, however I have no way of verifying this because I have no
list of the amino acids in chickpeas and have not been able to find any
websites which list this. In addition I have no way of knowing who is
right...my Yoga teacher or my friend. Are there beans and/r other
non-animal based foods which supply all essential amino acids. If anybody
knows anything which might help me please let me know. I am not a
vegetarian but I am trying to research amino acids for my own personal
nutritional knowledge. Thank you for your time.


Watch out for terminology.
Proteins are polymers of amino acids.
Your body needs 23 different amino acids to make proteins.
Your body can make all but 8 of these amino acids.
You need to get the other 8 from your food.
Only animal tissue contains all the amino acids you need -- you only need
1/4 pound of animal tissue a day for that.
You need to get a combination of whole grains, nuts (not peanuts), and
legumes (peanuts are legumes) every day to get all the amino acids. I don't
know the total amount either.

There are other issues with purely vegetarian diets.
The only natural source of cyanocobalamin (vitamin b12) for humans is animal
tissues. Herbivores can make cyanocobalamin as long as there is cobalt in
the soil where their food grows. There is a place, I believe it's in New
Zealand, where sheep sicken and die because there's no cobalt in the soil.
Without cyanocobalamin, you get pernicious anemia.

The best source of iron for humans is animal tissue. We absorb the iron
from fish (meat, not cod liver oil) more efficiently than from plant
products, and I don't know of anybody who considers fish a high-iron food.



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Old December 6th, 2005, 02:59 AM posted to alt.support.diet
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http://veggietable.allinfo-about.com...s/protein.html

It says in the above link "the only problem is that vegetable sources of
protein, with the exception of soybeans, are not complete proteins, so you
need to eat more than one in order to get the complete protein." so, is soy
complete? what about chickpeas?


 




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