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March 15th, 2004, 01:38 PM
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A really idiotic caloric burn rate question
This is a great point lee, the occupying factor here. It keeps me aware.
"Miss Violette" wrote in message ... speak for me also, if I do not write it down it is too easy to overdo and writing it down occupies the perfectionist in me so I get double value, Lee Prairie Roots wrote in message ... I figure that logging everything into the WW Online tool every day is how I've progressed thus far. For me, vagueness--not knowing what and how much I ate--got me fat and kept me there. Clarity--knowing exactly what and how much I'm eating--is getting me healthy and will be required to keep me there. Whether I continue to use WW Online or switch to something like DietPower, I figure tracking my food is part of the way of life I'm adopting. I don't like to log everything in, but I'm resigned to it being what I need to do to reach and maintain my goal. Speaking for myself only... Linda P On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 21:17:31 GMT, "Kristine Quilici" wrote: Joyce wrote I'm using the dietpower program, www.dietpower.com absolutely love it! Joyce How does that work with WW? I have an older version of that progam but got tired of logging everything in everyday. Kristine 
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March 15th, 2004, 03:03 PM
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A really idiotic caloric burn rate question
I have kept an Lotus 123 spreadsheet of all of my foot-powered
exercise for years. Ever since work was going to (never did) award folks for their walking, etc with a rebate on health premiums. It has been going on now for years and near the end of the year has sent me into a frenzy to sometimes make another milestone. One year it was 2,000 miles of biking when I realized in mid-dec I was about 150 miles short of that number. I dragged a bike to work for some very chilly lunchtime rides. Another it was 100,000 feet of elevation gain while hiking. I have it on my hp200 palmtop. All walks/hikes of 2 miles or greater, all-ski and all bike rides getting separate tallies. Only about a month ago I finally entered ALL my WW info into an excel spreadsheet. Numbers can be helpful. On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 23:17:04 GMT, ray miller wrote: On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 16:20:01 -0600, Prairie Roots wrote: I figure that logging everything into the WW Online tool every day is how I've progressed thus far. For me, vagueness--not knowing what and how much I ate--got me fat and kept me there. Clarity--knowing exactly what and how much I'm eating--is getting me healthy and will be required to keep me there. Whether I continue to use WW Online or switch to something like DietPower, I figure tracking my food is part of the way of life I'm adopting. I don't like to log everything in, but I'm resigned to it being what I need to do to reach and maintain my goal. Speaking for myself only... I do the same. I log everything I eat (except low cal fluids like diet coke). I also log all exercise. All done at www.fitday.com. I guess I'll have to log everything for the foreseable future. It's far too easy for me to go off track if I don't log. Of course I log other stuff in excel, like weight over time, and various measurements, and bodyfat, and calories, and... and... Is that anal or what? Ray
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March 15th, 2004, 03:08 PM
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A really idiotic caloric burn rate question
I am not logging except maybe once every other week or so. But I
guess I am doing a mini-version mentally and most weeks with variations on the theme I eat the same foods. And before the opera the other day, Mediterrean food but I have the special of wonderful broiled shrimp and only about a cup of the 4 cups of rice on the plate. Actually, poured some dressing on the side of the plate and still dippped the fork and skipped dessert - baclavah. So my habits are better and were until last nights Everest slide show - stuffed grape leaves, cheese, smoked tuna and salmon and wine and beer!!! Oh, well. This morning does not look too bad but it would have been better! (G) On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 01:19:46 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: I log faithfully whenever I want to lose..... Then I break from logging and go up a pound or two.... then I log again and lose....  "Prairie Roots" wrote in message .. . I figure that logging everything into the WW Online tool every day is how I've progressed thus far. For me, vagueness--not knowing what and how much I ate--got me fat and kept me there. Clarity--knowing exactly what and how much I'm eating--is getting me healthy and will be required to keep me there. Whether I continue to use WW Online or switch to something like DietPower, I figure tracking my food is part of the way of life I'm adopting. I don't like to log everything in, but I'm resigned to it being what I need to do to reach and maintain my goal. Speaking for myself only... Linda P On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 21:17:31 GMT, "Kristine Quilici" wrote: Joyce wrote I'm using the dietpower program, www.dietpower.com absolutely love it! Joyce How does that work with WW? I have an older version of that progam but got tired of logging everything in everyday. Kristine
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#34
March 15th, 2004, 03:20 PM
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A really idiotic caloric burn rate question
I accepted that "perfect prissy" would never go away so I do things to keep
her busy and therefore not a critic, Lee Lesanne wrote in message ... This is a great point lee, the occupying factor here. It keeps me aware. "Miss Violette" wrote in message ... speak for me also, if I do not write it down it is too easy to overdo and writing it down occupies the perfectionist in me so I get double value, Lee Prairie Roots wrote in message ... I figure that logging everything into the WW Online tool every day is how I've progressed thus far. For me, vagueness--not knowing what and how much I ate--got me fat and kept me there. Clarity--knowing exactly what and how much I'm eating--is getting me healthy and will be required to keep me there. Whether I continue to use WW Online or switch to something like DietPower, I figure tracking my food is part of the way of life I'm adopting. I don't like to log everything in, but I'm resigned to it being what I need to do to reach and maintain my goal. Speaking for myself only... Linda P On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 21:17:31 GMT, "Kristine Quilici" wrote: Joyce wrote I'm using the dietpower program, www.dietpower.com absolutely love it! Joyce How does that work with WW? I have an older version of that progam but got tired of logging everything in everyday. Kristine
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#35
March 15th, 2004, 04:54 PM
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A really idiotic caloric burn rate question
Man but what Great sounding food!
"Fred" wrote in message ... I am not logging except maybe once every other week or so. But I guess I am doing a mini-version mentally and most weeks with variations on the theme I eat the same foods. And before the opera the other day, Mediterrean food but I have the special of wonderful broiled shrimp and only about a cup of the 4 cups of rice on the plate. Actually, poured some dressing on the side of the plate and still dippped the fork and skipped dessert - baclavah. So my habits are better and were until last nights Everest slide show - stuffed grape leaves, cheese, smoked tuna and salmon and wine and beer!!! Oh, well. This morning does not look too bad but it would have been better! (G) On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 01:19:46 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: I log faithfully whenever I want to lose..... Then I break from logging and go up a pound or two.... then I log again and lose.... "Prairie Roots" wrote in message .. . I figure that logging everything into the WW Online tool every day is how I've progressed thus far. For me, vagueness--not knowing what and how much I ate--got me fat and kept me there. Clarity--knowing exactly what and how much I'm eating--is getting me healthy and will be required to keep me there. Whether I continue to use WW Online or switch to something like DietPower, I figure tracking my food is part of the way of life I'm adopting. I don't like to log everything in, but I'm resigned to it being what I need to do to reach and maintain my goal. Speaking for myself only... Linda P On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 21:17:31 GMT, "Kristine Quilici" wrote: Joyce wrote I'm using the dietpower program, www.dietpower.com absolutely love it! Joyce How does that work with WW? I have an older version of that progam but got tired of logging everything in everyday. Kristine
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#36
March 15th, 2004, 04:54 PM
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A really idiotic caloric burn rate question
yeah, busy hands are not reaching for food as much...
"Miss Violette" wrote in message ... I accepted that "perfect prissy" would never go away so I do things to keep her busy and therefore not a critic, Lee Lesanne wrote in message ... This is a great point lee, the occupying factor here. It keeps me aware. "Miss Violette" wrote in message ... speak for me also, if I do not write it down it is too easy to overdo and writing it down occupies the perfectionist in me so I get double value, Lee Prairie Roots wrote in message ... I figure that logging everything into the WW Online tool every day is how I've progressed thus far. For me, vagueness--not knowing what and how much I ate--got me fat and kept me there. Clarity--knowing exactly what and how much I'm eating--is getting me healthy and will be required to keep me there. Whether I continue to use WW Online or switch to something like DietPower, I figure tracking my food is part of the way of life I'm adopting. I don't like to log everything in, but I'm resigned to it being what I need to do to reach and maintain my goal. Speaking for myself only... Linda P On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 21:17:31 GMT, "Kristine Quilici" wrote: Joyce wrote I'm using the dietpower program, www.dietpower.com absolutely love it! Joyce How does that work with WW? I have an older version of that progam but got tired of logging everything in everyday. Kristine
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#37
March 16th, 2004, 02:42 AM
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A really idiotic caloric burn rate question
It was, and totally spontaneous and I only contributed the house, oh
yeah, and the CLEANUP! On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 16:54:35 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: Man but what Great sounding food! "Fred" wrote in message .. . I am not logging except maybe once every other week or so. But I guess I am doing a mini-version mentally and most weeks with variations on the theme I eat the same foods. And before the opera the other day, Mediterrean food but I have the special of wonderful broiled shrimp and only about a cup of the 4 cups of rice on the plate. Actually, poured some dressing on the side of the plate and still dippped the fork and skipped dessert - baclavah. So my habits are better and were until last nights Everest slide show - stuffed grape leaves, cheese, smoked tuna and salmon and wine and beer!!! Oh, well. This morning does not look too bad but it would have been better! (G) On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 01:19:46 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: I log faithfully whenever I want to lose..... Then I break from logging and go up a pound or two.... then I log again and lose.... "Prairie Roots" wrote in message .. . I figure that logging everything into the WW Online tool every day is how I've progressed thus far. For me, vagueness--not knowing what and how much I ate--got me fat and kept me there. Clarity--knowing exactly what and how much I'm eating--is getting me healthy and will be required to keep me there. Whether I continue to use WW Online or switch to something like DietPower, I figure tracking my food is part of the way of life I'm adopting. I don't like to log everything in, but I'm resigned to it being what I need to do to reach and maintain my goal. Speaking for myself only... Linda P On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 21:17:31 GMT, "Kristine Quilici" wrote: Joyce wrote I'm using the dietpower program, www.dietpower.com absolutely love it! Joyce How does that work with WW? I have an older version of that progam but got tired of logging everything in everyday. Kristine
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#38
March 16th, 2004, 02:43 AM
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A really idiotic caloric burn rate question
Maybe I should have two mice for my computer! (G)
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 16:54:55 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: yeah, busy hands are not reaching for food as much... "Miss Violette" wrote in message ... I accepted that "perfect prissy" would never go away so I do things to keep her busy and therefore not a critic, Lee Lesanne wrote in message ... This is a great point lee, the occupying factor here. It keeps me aware. "Miss Violette" wrote in message ... speak for me also, if I do not write it down it is too easy to overdo and writing it down occupies the perfectionist in me so I get double value, Lee Prairie Roots wrote in message ... I figure that logging everything into the WW Online tool every day is how I've progressed thus far. For me, vagueness--not knowing what and how much I ate--got me fat and kept me there. Clarity--knowing exactly what and how much I'm eating--is getting me healthy and will be required to keep me there. Whether I continue to use WW Online or switch to something like DietPower, I figure tracking my food is part of the way of life I'm adopting. I don't like to log everything in, but I'm resigned to it being what I need to do to reach and maintain my goal. Speaking for myself only... Linda P On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 21:17:31 GMT, "Kristine Quilici" wrote: Joyce wrote I'm using the dietpower program, www.dietpower.com absolutely love it! Joyce How does that work with WW? I have an older version of that progam but got tired of logging everything in everyday. Kristine
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#39
March 16th, 2004, 03:14 AM
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A really idiotic caloric burn rate question
I did not need to see this!
I was thinking today that I "need" to get an odometer (or "cyclo-computer" as I've seen them called on some bike sites) so I can keep track of my mileage. So far, I'm still breaking in both the bike and my body: legs, rear end, lungs, heart, etc. I've gone biking every day since Saturday, 5 miles at most at a time. But I'm starting to plan some longer rides and it occurred to me that, over time, logging my mileage could be interesting. Here I thought I was being silly. And then, there you go, working yourself into frenzies making milestones! On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 07:03:54 -0800, Fred wrote: I have kept an Lotus 123 spreadsheet of all of my foot-powered exercise for years. Ever since work was going to (never did) award folks for their walking, etc with a rebate on health premiums. It has been going on now for years and near the end of the year has sent me into a frenzy to sometimes make another milestone. One year it was 2,000 miles of biking when I realized in mid-dec I was about 150 miles short of that number. I dragged a bike to work for some very chilly lunchtime rides. Another it was 100,000 feet of elevation gain while hiking. I have it on my hp200 palmtop. All walks/hikes of 2 miles or greater, all-ski and all bike rides getting separate tallies. Only about a month ago I finally entered ALL my WW info into an excel spreadsheet. Numbers can be helpful. On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 23:17:04 GMT, ray miller wrote: On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 16:20:01 -0600, Prairie Roots wrote: I figure that logging everything into the WW Online tool every day is how I've progressed thus far. For me, vagueness--not knowing what and how much I ate--got me fat and kept me there. Clarity--knowing exactly what and how much I'm eating--is getting me healthy and will be required to keep me there. Whether I continue to use WW Online or switch to something like DietPower, I figure tracking my food is part of the way of life I'm adopting. I don't like to log everything in, but I'm resigned to it being what I need to do to reach and maintain my goal. Speaking for myself only... I do the same. I log everything I eat (except low cal fluids like diet coke). I also log all exercise. All done at www.fitday.com. I guess I'll have to log everything for the foreseable future. It's far too easy for me to go off track if I don't log. Of course I log other stuff in excel, like weight over time, and various measurements, and bodyfat, and calories, and... and... Is that anal or what? Ray Linda P 232/158/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003
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March 16th, 2004, 05:31 AM
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A really idiotic caloric burn rate question
Well, not only is having a bike computer a nice info addition to track
mileage but if you do start going on club rides and longer rides, "cue sheets" generally have mileage info on how far on a road and then what mileage to make turns or bear left and stuff like that. So they can almost essential. But many folks do fine without them also. I have an older model which I really like since it also shows elevation gain on its altimeter. It is discontinued - replaced by the less convenient wris****ch altimeters. I will be inconsolable when it finally fails. I actually have two, one on the road bike and one on the mt bike. I had to get new battery covers for them a few weeks back and called the company and asked if there were any lying around. He guy chuckled and said if there were, they would be snapped up by employees immediately - funny, how companies drop popular products. Breaking in the neck, shoulders and seat take their toll and time. Each season as I start doing more I feel it more! On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 21:14:01 -0600, Prairie Roots wrote: I did not need to see this! I was thinking today that I "need" to get an odometer (or "cyclo-computer" as I've seen them called on some bike sites) so I can keep track of my mileage. So far, I'm still breaking in both the bike and my body: legs, rear end, lungs, heart, etc. I've gone biking every day since Saturday, 5 miles at most at a time. But I'm starting to plan some longer rides and it occurred to me that, over time, logging my mileage could be interesting. Here I thought I was being silly. And then, there you go, working yourself into frenzies making milestones! On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 07:03:54 -0800, Fred wrote: I have kept an Lotus 123 spreadsheet of all of my foot-powered exercise for years. Ever since work was going to (never did) award folks for their walking, etc with a rebate on health premiums. It has been going on now for years and near the end of the year has sent me into a frenzy to sometimes make another milestone. One year it was 2,000 miles of biking when I realized in mid-dec I was about 150 miles short of that number. I dragged a bike to work for some very chilly lunchtime rides. Another it was 100,000 feet of elevation gain while hiking. I have it on my hp200 palmtop. All walks/hikes of 2 miles or greater, all-ski and all bike rides getting separate tallies. Only about a month ago I finally entered ALL my WW info into an excel spreadsheet. Numbers can be helpful. On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 23:17:04 GMT, ray miller wrote: On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 16:20:01 -0600, Prairie Roots wrote: I figure that logging everything into the WW Online tool every day is how I've progressed thus far. For me, vagueness--not knowing what and how much I ate--got me fat and kept me there. Clarity--knowing exactly what and how much I'm eating--is getting me healthy and will be required to keep me there. Whether I continue to use WW Online or switch to something like DietPower, I figure tracking my food is part of the way of life I'm adopting. I don't like to log everything in, but I'm resigned to it being what I need to do to reach and maintain my goal. Speaking for myself only... I do the same. I log everything I eat (except low cal fluids like diet coke). I also log all exercise. All done at www.fitday.com. I guess I'll have to log everything for the foreseable future. It's far too easy for me to go off track if I don't log. Of course I log other stuff in excel, like weight over time, and various measurements, and bodyfat, and calories, and... and... Is that anal or what? Ray Linda P 232/158/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003
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