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I don't understand cheating.
Ignoramus brought up a great point this evening in another thread.
Can someone please explain to me what the big temptation behind a "planned cheat" is? The point of a low carb diet ultimately (if you treat it as a way of eating, now losing a quick 10lbs in water weight) is to reduce your cravings for refined white sugar and white flour, reduce your appetite, and lose weight. You eat less, you feel better, and you take in less calories and you start to lose weight. But - and this isn't meant to be a rude shot at anyone - why would you want to plan to cheat. Plan to eat the things that used to make you feel bad. That doesn't seem like a "treat" to me, but more or less an injustice to your body. If I want to eat some bread, I do it. I do it knowing that it isn't good for me, and I rarely do it because of that. so I was just wondering, if you want to break food addictions, why have a day when you PLAN to let the addictions overcome you? Trust me. If you believe something to be a reality, it starts to be your truth. If you believe truly that the LC WOE is the best WOE, then you will not want to plan for cheats. If you view the diet as restrictive to the point where you spend a day eating stuff you KNOW is not good for you, then you are at least for some time preoccupied with what you should not me thinking of, the things which negatively impact an aspect of your life you are trying to change (in this case your diet). I hope I haven't offended anyone, but this is just what popped into my head. |
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I don't understand cheating.
Some people do better with plans. Some people are organized. That is how
they live their life, so I am sure that is how they would choose to eat. Now, I am not organized, so I doubt I would even think to do that, even though it is a good idea. Keri 6/10/03 |
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I don't understand cheating.
"Kerri Ratliff" wrote in message news:K5FUb.7139$Le3.7080@okepread04... Some people do better with plans. Some people are organized. That is how they live their life, so I am sure that is how they would choose to eat. Now, I am not organized, so I doubt I would even think to do that, even though it is a good idea. Keri 6/10/03 Hey Keri, thanks for the reply. I wouldn't recommend you cheat though. The main point of what I am saying is this: If you push the negative thoughts and the weaknesses out of your head and replace them with positive things and goals that you are determined to meet, your need for cheating disappears. If you dwell on or plan for negative days, you are not only allowing the thoughts that are negative (bad food thoughts in this case) in, you are allowing for the bad thoughts to at least for a day, dictate what you do. So to plan for a cheat seems like just negative energy to me, bad thoughts, etc. Positive energy and the BELIEF (not just a want mind you) that you can reach a goal will get you to the goal. |
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I don't understand cheating.
Hmm, I cheat now and again. I also plan cheat. I don't make a habit out of
it. For example, I am going to a beer and cheese tasting on Saturday. That is a planned cheat day. I am not looking at this as a crash diet, it is a lifestyle. Long term goals. Do I have a planned cheat every week? NO. This happens now and again. I work out hard and sometimes there are occasions that have me eat things off the plan. For me, it works fine. If you have a planned cheat every week, I think that is too much unless you are very very close to goal. I don't know though. Everyone is different. JMHO, Curt -- Started low carb May '03 211/186/185 . . 6'2" Highest weight 250 "Steven C (Doktersteve)" wrote in message news:P1FUb.10738$213.7561@edtnps89... Ignoramus brought up a great point this evening in another thread. Can someone please explain to me what the big temptation behind a "planned cheat" is? The point of a low carb diet ultimately (if you treat it as a way of eating, now losing a quick 10lbs in water weight) is to reduce your cravings for refined white sugar and white flour, reduce your appetite, and lose weight. You eat less, you feel better, and you take in less calories and you start to lose weight. But - and this isn't meant to be a rude shot at anyone - why would you want to plan to cheat. Plan to eat the things that used to make you feel bad. That doesn't seem like a "treat" to me, but more or less an injustice to your body. If I want to eat some bread, I do it. I do it knowing that it isn't good for me, and I rarely do it because of that. so I was just wondering, if you want to break food addictions, why have a day when you PLAN to let the addictions overcome you? Trust me. If you believe something to be a reality, it starts to be your truth. If you believe truly that the LC WOE is the best WOE, then you will not want to plan for cheats. If you view the diet as restrictive to the point where you spend a day eating stuff you KNOW is not good for you, then you are at least for some time preoccupied with what you should not me thinking of, the things which negatively impact an aspect of your life you are trying to change (in this case your diet). I hope I haven't offended anyone, but this is just what popped into my head. |
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I don't understand cheating.
In article P1FUb.10738$213.7561@edtnps89,
"Steven C \(Doktersteve\)" wrote: Ignoramus brought up a great point this evening in another thread. Can someone please explain to me what the big temptation behind a "planned cheat" is? The point of a low carb diet ultimately (if you treat it as a way of eating, now losing a quick 10lbs in water weight) is to reduce your cravings for refined white sugar and white flour, reduce your appetite, and lose weight. You eat less, you feel better, and you take in less calories and you start to lose weight. But - and this isn't meant to be a rude shot at anyone - why would you want to plan to cheat. Plan to eat the things that used to make you feel bad. That doesn't seem like a "treat" to me, but more or less an injustice to your body. If I want to eat some bread, I do it. I do it knowing that it isn't good for me, and I rarely do it because of that. so I was just wondering, if you want to break food addictions, why have a day when you PLAN to let the addictions overcome you? Ooo, yeah, maybe that's where the disconnect is. I have planned cheats, but I don't "let the addictions overcome me". I'm not sure how other people do it, but a planned cheat for me is something like, I'm going out to the Chinese buffet with my family, and I'll have 2 or 3 pieces of something breaded and fried as my "dessert" after a meal of salad, boiled shrimp, and crab legs. Or a special family event like Thanksgiving where I will have 2 bites of pie or cake. I bet not everyone is as strict with their planned cheats as I am, but I've found that a taste of something is enough, because that's the part I miss. I miss the taste, not the filling up part. -- Michelle Levin http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws. |
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I don't understand cheating.
"Steven C (Doktersteve)" wrote in message news:P1FUb.10738$213.7561@edtnps89... Ignoramus brought up a great point this evening in another thread. Can someone please explain to me what the big temptation behind a "planned cheat" is? I agree....planned cheats are a bad thing. I have done the planned cheat thing twice...both times led to a long derailing of my LC'ing. I guess it comes down to no matter how much you change your lifestyle, sometimes the lure to eat something you really liked before LC'ing makes you feel you compromise less by including it in the occasional cheat. To anyone considering it who hasn't done it...don't. It messed me up twice big time. My cheat was french toast both times. Norsk |
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I don't understand cheating.
Doktersteve wrote:
Ignoramus brought up a great point this evening in another thread. Can someone please explain to me what the big temptation behind a "planned cheat" is? The point of a low carb diet ultimately (if you treat it as a way of eating, now losing a quick 10lbs in water weight) is to reduce your cravings for refined white sugar and white flour, reduce your appetite, and lose weight. You eat less, you feel better, and you take in less calories and you start to lose weight. But - and this isn't meant to be a rude shot at anyone - why would you want to plan to cheat. Plan to eat the things that used to make you feel bad. That doesn't seem like a "treat" to me, but more or less an injustice to your body. If I want to eat some bread, I do it. I do it knowing that it isn't good for me, and I rarely do it because of that. so I was just wondering, if you want to break food addictions, why have a day when you PLAN to let the addictions overcome you? Trust me. If you believe something to be a reality, it starts to be your truth. If you believe truly that the LC WOE is the best WOE, then you will not want to plan for cheats. If you view the diet as restrictive to the point where you spend a day eating stuff you KNOW is not good for you, then you are at least for some time preoccupied with what you should not me thinking of, the things which negatively impact an aspect of your life you are trying to change (in this case your diet). I hope I haven't offended anyone, but this is just what popped into my head. I go off plan once in a while because I LOVE food. I love to cook, eat, shop, etc. I even read cookbooks like some people read novels. I am a total foodie! By allowing myself a planned cheat I can control myself rather than binge. There are many non-LC foods that I miss: extra spicy orange chicken, salt bagels, anything at any Wolfgang Puck restaurant, whole grain pancakes with real maple syrup at my favorite breakfast place, chicken mole, pumpkin ravioli, just to name a few. I'm in this for the long haul and I can't imagine NEVER eating these foods again. I do count my carbs and calories even on "cheat" days so I know what adjustments to make to help compensate. I'll do extra cardio to burn the glycogen and cut way back on the carbs for a few days. I think eating in moderation is the key to successfully maintaining. Remember, even low carb will put on weight if too many calories are consumed. With that said, I do try to limit my off-plan days by remembering the words of the great Steven Tyler: "Nothing tastes as good as thin feels." Keeping this mantra in mind does help me limit my "cheats". Brenda 135/106 |
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I don't understand cheating.
In article wSFUb.183333$Rc4.1371235@attbi_s54,
"norsk" wrote: "Steven C (Doktersteve)" wrote in message news:P1FUb.10738$213.7561@edtnps89... Ignoramus brought up a great point this evening in another thread. Can someone please explain to me what the big temptation behind a "planned cheat" is? I agree....planned cheats are a bad thing. I have done the planned cheat thing twice...both times led to a long derailing of my LC'ing. I guess it comes down to no matter how much you change your lifestyle, sometimes the lure to eat something you really liked before LC'ing makes you feel you compromise less by including it in the occasional cheat. To anyone considering it who hasn't done it...don't. It messed me up twice big time. My cheat was french toast both times. Norsk Aww, man, now I want french toast. ) If I decided to cheat with french toast, here's how I'd do it. I don't have bread in the house, so I'd go to my neighbor's and ask them for a slice of bread, make my one piece of french toast, and eat it, and then, well I'd be done and no more bread! Ta-da! -- Michelle Levin http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws. |
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I don't understand cheating.
I agree....planned cheats are a bad thing. I have done the planned cheat
thing twice...both times led to a long derailing of my LC'ing. I guess it comes down to no matter how much you change your lifestyle, sometimes the lure to eat something you really liked before LC'ing makes you feel you compromise less by including it in the occasional cheat. To anyone considering it who hasn't done it...don't. It messed me up twice big time. My cheat was french toast both times. Norsk Aww, man, now I want french toast. ) If I decided to cheat with french toast, here's how I'd do it. I don't have bread in the house, so I'd go to my neighbor's and ask them for a slice of bread, make my one piece of french toast, and eat it, and then, well I'd be done and no more bread! Ta-da! -- Michelle Levin http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws. Yum!! French Toast!! Ordering off the kids' menu is another way to monitor portions. I tend to have my "cheats" away from home to avoid leftovers of both the meal and the ingredients. Brenda 135/106 |
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I don't understand cheating.
"Luna" wrote in message ... Aww, man, now I want french toast. ) If I decided to cheat with french toast, here's how I'd do it. I don't have bread in the house, so I'd go to my neighbor's and ask them for a slice of bread, make my one piece of french toast, and eat it, and then, well I'd be done and no more bread! you could make french toast with low carb bread, right? the rest of the recipe is LC friendly. ok, so you can't have the syrup, but you could top it with fresh berries and freshly whipped cream. -kelly |
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