"cheating" or "cellebrating" or whatever you want to call it - it's still cheating!

I'm not sure that I understand or agree with the concept of cheating. Even if
it is a special night out, or big event or something similar. This just
doesn't make sense. Even if it is one night, even if it is only once, it is
still cheating. I went on the low-carb diet specifically to change lifestyles
and improve the quality of my life. My high-carb, low fat diet and lifestyle
(the one I am leaving behind), has left me 70 pounds overweight, diabetic and
depressed. The low-carb diet has helped me drop 10 pounds in three weeks
(which is a major milestone for me), and stabilized my blood sugar. I feel
great and finally have hope. So what would cheating do for me? Tempt me to
back to an old lifestyle that has done NOTHING for me! Just isn't worth it.

If you cheat on your low-carb lifestyle, then is it OK to sleep with someone
other than your significant other?

Bill Clinton wasn't cheating since he and Monica Lewinski were not having
"sexual relations?" (just oral, not intercourse)?

Cheating just isn't worth it.

Cluelesstraveler wrote:
:: I'm not sure that I understand or agree with the concept of
:: cheating. Even if it is a special night out, or big event or
:: something similar. This just doesn't make sense. Even if it is one
:: night, even if it is only once, it is still cheating. I went on the
:: low-carb diet specifically to change lifestyles and improve the
:: quality of my life. My high-carb, low fat diet and lifestyle (the
:: one I am leaving behind), has left me 70 pounds overweight, diabetic
:: and depressed. The low-carb diet has helped me drop 10 pounds in
:: three weeks (which is a major milestone for me), and stabilized my
:: blood sugar. I feel great and finally have hope. So what would
:: cheating do for me? Tempt me to back to an old lifestyle that has
:: done NOTHING for me! Just isn't worth it.
::
:: If you cheat on your low-carb lifestyle, then is it OK to sleep with
:: someone other than your significant other?
::
:: Bill Clinton wasn't cheating since he and Monica Lewinski were not
:: having "sexual relations?" (just oral, not intercourse)?
::
:: Cheating just isn't worth it.

Speak for yourself.

Who are you? The town scold?

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"Cluelesstraveler" wrote in message
...
I'm not sure that I understand or agree with the concept of cheating.
Even if
it is a special night out, or big event or something similar. This just
doesn't make sense. Even if it is one night, even if it is only once, it
is
still cheating. I went on the low-carb diet specifically to change
lifestyles
and improve the quality of my life. My high-carb, low fat diet and
lifestyle
(the one I am leaving behind), has left me 70 pounds overweight, diabetic
and
depressed. The low-carb diet has helped me drop 10 pounds in three weeks
(which is a major milestone for me), and stabilized my blood sugar. I
feel
great and finally have hope. So what would cheating do for me? Tempt me
to
back to an old lifestyle that has done NOTHING for me! Just isn't worth
it.

If you cheat on your low-carb lifestyle, then is it OK to sleep with
someone
other than your significant other?

Bill Clinton wasn't cheating since he and Monica Lewinski were not having
"sexual relations?" (just oral, not intercourse)?

Cheating just isn't worth it.

Igor? Is that you?

Cluelesstraveler wrote:
I'm not sure that I understand or agree with the concept of
cheating. Even if it is a special night out, or big event or
something similar. This just doesn't make sense. Even if it is one
night, even if it is only once, it is still cheating. I went on the
low-carb diet specifically to change lifestyles and improve the
quality of my life. My high-carb, low fat diet and lifestyle (the
one I am leaving behind), has left me 70 pounds overweight, diabetic
and depressed. The low-carb diet has helped me drop 10 pounds in
three weeks (which is a major milestone for me), and stabilized my
blood sugar. I feel great and finally have hope. So what would
cheating do for me? Tempt me to back to an old lifestyle that has
done NOTHING for me! Just isn't worth it.

If you cheat on your low-carb lifestyle, then is it OK to sleep with
someone other than your significant other?

Bill Clinton wasn't cheating since he and Monica Lewinski were not
having "sexual relations?" (just oral, not intercourse)?

Cheating just isn't worth it.

The way I see it is this, it's only cheating if you're on a diet.
If it really is a way of life then you're just making a different choice at
that particular time.
Does a vegetarian say they've "cheated" if they have some chicken broth?
Does a carnivore say oops I've cheated because I ate some greens today?
Does a Vioxx user say I cheated cause I took a Celebrex today?
Does a herion user say I cheated cause I snorted some coke today?
etc. etc. etc.
Monica
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"Cluelesstraveler" wrote in message
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Bill Clinton wasn't cheating since he and Monica Lewinski were not having
"sexual relations?" (just oral, not intercourse)?

Cheating just isn't worth it.





It's not cheating...it's simply a poor choice, much like this thread.

Norsk

"Cluelesstraveler" wrote in message
...
I'm not sure that I understand or agree with the concept of cheating.
Even if
it is a special night out, or big event or something similar. This just
doesn't make sense. Even if it is one night, even if it is only once, it
is
still cheating. I went on the low-carb diet specifically to change
lifestyles
and improve the quality of my life. My high-carb, low fat diet and
lifestyle
(the one I am leaving behind), has left me 70 pounds overweight, diabetic
and
depressed. The low-carb diet has helped me drop 10 pounds in three weeks
(which is a major milestone for me), and stabilized my blood sugar. I
feel
great and finally have hope. So what would cheating do for me? Tempt me
to
back to an old lifestyle that has done NOTHING for me! Just isn't worth
it.

If you cheat on your low-carb lifestyle, then is it OK to sleep with
someone
other than your significant other?

Bill Clinton wasn't cheating since he and Monica Lewinski were not having
"sexual relations?" (just oral, not intercourse)?

Cheating just isn't worth it.

Let's see...you've been on LC for three weeks now and can't understand how
someone would have a 'cheat' day? Well, that's understandable, actually - I
wouldn't suggest an off-plan day for anyone that new to LC either. Not
because it's inherently harmful in any way, only because the WOL is new
enough that going off-plan too early would probably have a better chance of
derailing someone permanently.

However, you might want to reconsider this question when you've been LC'ing
for three months, six months, a year, or several years. If you can't
survive an occasional off-plan day by then, then I'd say your food is still
controlling you rather than you controlling it. One non-LC meal isn't going
to make you regain (except possibly water weight, which will be lost again
right away if you're on-plan). Going off-plan entirely _will_ make you
regain. If you don't think you can have an off-plan meal without giving up
on LC entirely, then I'd agree - don't go off plan. If you can't have one
off-plan meal without using it as justification to have others, and then
still others (within a short span of time), then I'd say definitely don't do
it. But don't assume that everyone else is in the same boat.

And the comparison to infidelity is just silly. Marriage is a commitment
you make to another, and inherent in that is the promise that you won't be
sleeping with anyone else. Eating is a biologic necessity, and an LC WOE is
not inherently incompatible with an occasional non-LC meal - as long as it
*is* occasional. Only you know whether you can have an off-plan meal and
yet still resist the bigger temptation to slide back into bad habits.
Everyone here has had to answer that for themselves as well.

It doesn't matter if someone lies to anyone else about what that answer for
them individually is - what really matters is whether they lie to
_themselves_ about it. Judging by many of the people here who have been on
LC much longer than I have, who have reached goal and maintained it for
months or years, or even who have not reached goal but have lost significant
amounts, are still progressing, and have not regained along the way - I'd
say that none of the long-term LC'ers are fooling themselves about what they
can and can't eat, even when it comes to things that are not strictly LC.
And it's pretty hard to argue with long-term success, g.

Stargazer
Atkins since Apr '03
192/148/140

I'm not sure that I understand or agree with the concept of cheating.

It depends what you call "cheating".

The low-carb diet has helped me drop 10 pounds in three weeks
(which is a major milestone for me), and stabilized my blood sugar.

It does really depend on which diet a person is on. I was on the
Carbohydrate Addicts Diet for a while, in which you get to have
some of your favorite high carbohydrate foods every day in
moderation, once per day only. (No it is not a one hour carb
binge that people who have not read the book think it is, you get
but a handful of a non low-carbohydrate food.) Those kind of
controlled carb diets have been around for years.

Other people use Low-Carbohydrate diets to suppress perpetual
cravings which cause them to overeat. They will eat some of the
"once in a while foods" and then go back to their baseline diet to
continue the craving suppression.

In a way of eating for life, people can allow room for foods that
they simply don't eat every day.

CM

Clueless,

You've been on the diet for a couple of weeks and are in the enthusiastic
"new convert" state. If you manage to stay on the diet for a year or two,
when the weight loss has slowed down to half a pound a month, and the thrill
of eating fat is long gone, the dynamics may be very different.

The challenge of low carbing, especially for someone like you and me with
diabetes, is to keep on the diet long after the thrill is gone. My
observation has been that people who are too rigid about what they eat are
often the ones who crash off big time and regain all the weight. Eating off
plan foods is not the same as cheating on a spouse at all. As you proceed
along the path of the diet your nutritional needs change and the way your
body responds to food changes too.

I've written up my philosophy of how to create a more flexible diet plan
that can withstand the inevitable stresses he
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/diab-diet.htm .

-- Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. At goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
hba1c 5.2.
Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

Low carb facts and figures, my weight-loss photos, tips, recipes,
strategies for dealing with diabetes and more at
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/...0Diagnosed.htm



"Cluelesstraveler" wrote in message
...
I'm not sure that I understand or agree with the concept of cheating.
Even if
it is a special night out, or big event or something similar. This just
doesn't make sense. Even if it is one night, even if it is only once, it
is
still cheating. I went on the low-carb diet specifically to change
lifestyles
and improve the quality of my life. My high-carb, low fat diet and
lifestyle
(the one I am leaving behind), has left me 70 pounds overweight, diabetic
and
depressed. The low-carb diet has helped me drop 10 pounds in three weeks
(which is a major milestone for me), and stabilized my blood sugar. I
feel
great and finally have hope. So what would cheating do for me? Tempt me
to
back to an old lifestyle that has done NOTHING for me! Just isn't worth
it.

If you cheat on your low-carb lifestyle, then is it OK to sleep with
someone
other than your significant other?

Bill Clinton wasn't cheating since he and Monica Lewinski were not having
"sexual relations?" (just oral, not intercourse)?

Cheating just isn't worth it.

"Cluelesstraveler" wrote in message
...
I'm not sure that I understand or agree with the concept of cheating.
Even if
it is a special night out, or big event or something similar. This just
doesn't make sense. Even if it is one night, even if it is only once, it
is
still cheating. I went on the low-carb diet specifically to change
lifestyles
and improve the quality of my life. My high-carb, low fat diet and
lifestyle
(the one I am leaving behind), has left me 70 pounds overweight, diabetic
and
depressed. The low-carb diet has helped me drop 10 pounds in three weeks
(which is a major milestone for me), and stabilized my blood sugar. I
feel
great and finally have hope. So what would cheating do for me? Tempt me
to
back to an old lifestyle that has done NOTHING for me! Just isn't worth
it.

If you cheat on your low-carb lifestyle, then is it OK to sleep with
someone
other than your significant other?

Bill Clinton wasn't cheating since he and Monica Lewinski were not having
"sexual relations?" (just oral, not intercourse)?

Cheating just isn't worth it.


Everybody is different.

Let's not discount the theory that food is often associated with comfort and
celebration and friends and all sorts of good things. Diets are often
associated with denial of all of those. Can you manage without a single
'cheat?' Then good for you.

Don't assume that what is right for you is right for everybody, because all
of us are in need of weight loss for varying reasons.

Some use the food/comfort thing a bit too much (like maybe everybody).

Some are in the food service industry and are surrounded by food and its
pleasures all day every day in a professional sense, where its appearance
and delectability are their very income.

Some have been in social situations where there is some rudeness in refusing
what is profferred.

Some have been dieting for a long time and would like to just for one meal,
celebrate and eat what has been forbidden for so long.

Don't be so quick to judge. What works for you may not be the best way for
everyone.

And I am not going to comment on the cheap shot at Clinton.......

--
Evelyn

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