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Can i kick my weight loss into high gear? And why arent i hungry at all?



 
 
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Old December 6th, 2003, 02:44 AM
Steven C \(Doktersteve\)
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I have started finally to feel my clothes get loose, and I am going into
week 3 of induction now...
perhaps if I started doing cardio I could really kick start my loss? I seem
to be loosing no discernable weight on the scale, but noticeably on my body.

what do you think would be good for me right now.

I am eating FAR less than even 1 week ago now as well, I just don't have the
appetite (perhaps 300-500 calories a day only), but I do feel great.
Its odd that I am eating so much less though, isn't it? I mean, I felt the
cravings to away before, but I am still an average sized guy (5ft 6in), so
should I be forcing myself to eat?

Thanks.


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Old December 6th, 2003, 04:18 AM
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"Steven C \(Doktersteve\)" wrote in
news:cwaAb.18715$bC.16064@clgrps13:

I have started finally to feel my clothes get loose, and I am going
into week 3 of induction now...
perhaps if I started doing cardio I could really kick start my loss? I
seem to be loosing no discernable weight on the scale, but noticeably
on my body.

what do you think would be good for me right now.

I am eating FAR less than even 1 week ago now as well, I just don't
have the appetite (perhaps 300-500 calories a day only), but I do feel
great. Its odd that I am eating so much less though, isn't it? I mean,
I felt the cravings to away before, but I am still an average sized
guy (5ft 6in), so should I be forcing myself to eat?

Thanks.


Ketosis is a natural appetite suppressant, so it's no surprise that you're
not hungry. I went through bouts of this as well, but my appetite
eventually returned. These phases are not uncommon and you won't always see
a steady loss on the scale... loss of inches is just as important. It may
be a good idea to also go by the measuring tape. You can't rush your body
on a whim... it's going to do what it does. The best thing to do is follow
the plan you're on methodically and with patience.

I think that it's best to try to eat something every few hours... even if
it's not a large quantity. Atkins did say not to go more than six hours
without eating to help keep blood sugars stable. The also body requires
energy for metabolic functions... you need the fuel to burn your body fat.
A few days of eating little won't be too troublesome, but making it a
continuing thing may not be such a good idea. 300-500 calories is FAR too
little for any extended period of time. Atkins emphasizes gaining good
eating habits... not just weightloss.

You may want to transition into the Ongoing Weight Loss phase and start
adding an extra 5 grams of LC vegetables per day. It might kick-start your
appetite.

~miette
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Old December 6th, 2003, 02:40 PM
Meowzer
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Well, this was the one that I couldn't ignore. Yes, Steve, you need to
see a doctor. The type of doctor you need to see depends on if you are
being accurate and truthful in your postings or if you just enjoy lying.

If you are true and accurate in your posting, for example: "I am eating FAR
less than even 1 week ago now as well, I just don't have the appetite
(perhaps 300-500 calories a day only), but I do feel great." (posted Friday,
December 05, 2003 8:44 PM) then you need to see a Physician because you may
well be dead right now. Based on a posting where you mention your weight
and height, "I am five foot 6 inches and weigh about 190 lbs. . ." (posted
Saturday, November 08, 2003 8:59 PM), assuming you are around 35 years old -
no reason, I picked the number out of the air - you need 1,619 calories a
day just to maintain your BMR (keeps your heart beating, lungs pumping) .
If you really are eating only 300 - 500 calories a day at 190#, you've long
ago collapsed and have been taken to the hospital. I hope your room has
internet access.

If, however, you aren't being truthful and accurate in your postings, the
doctor you need to see is a psychologist/psychiatrist. Anyone who finds
their pleasure in lying to strangers definitely needs a cranial adjustment.

Because I hate to think poorly of people, I'm going to believe a third
option, and that is that you just keep lousy records and are eating way more
than you are recording.


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Old December 6th, 2003, 03:04 PM
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"Meowzer" wrote in message
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snip
If you are true and accurate in your posting, for example: "I am
eating FAR less than even 1 week ago now as well, I just don't have
the appetite (perhaps 300-500 calories a day only), but I do feel
great." (posted Friday, December 05, 2003 8:44 PM) then you need to
see a Physician because you may well be dead right now. Based on a
posting where you mention your weight and height, "I am five foot 6
inches and weigh about 190 lbs. . ." (posted Saturday, November 08,
2003 8:59 PM), assuming you are around 35 years old - no reason, I
picked the number out of the air - you need 1,619 calories a day just
to maintain your BMR (keeps your heart beating, lungs pumping) . If
you really are eating only 300 - 500 calories a day at 190#, you've
long ago collapsed and have been taken to the hospital. I hope your
room has internet access.


Visible ill health from eating too few calories does not happen that
quickly. It takes 8 to 12 weeks for death to occur from *total* starvation
(zero calories) so there is no way you can assume someone isn't telling the
truth because they haven't collapsed and been hospitalized after eating
300-500 calories a day for a week.
http://www.merck.com/mrkshared/mmanu...hapter2/2b.jsp

Is it healthy? Not a chance! And the original poster should eat quite abit
more if he wants to stay healthy.


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Old December 6th, 2003, 03:15 PM
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"Steven C (Doktersteve)" wrote in
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I have started finally to feel my clothes get loose, and I am going
into week 3 of induction now...
perhaps if I started doing cardio I could really kick start my loss?
I seem to be loosing no discernable weight on the scale, but
noticeably on my body.

what do you think would be good for me right now.

I am eating FAR less than even 1 week ago now as well, I just don't
have the appetite (perhaps 300-500 calories a day only), but I do
feel great.
Its odd that I am eating so much less though, isn't it? I mean, I
felt the cravings to away before, but I am still an average sized guy
(5ft 6in), so should I be forcing myself to eat?

Thanks.


If you mean you're eating 300 - 500 calories a day then what you need to do
is eat more. You cannot lose fat faster by cutting your calories so low.
What you end up doing is losing muscle tissue and in the long run becoming
quite ill. (Don't forget, your heart is a muscle.)

You need to eat a certain number of calories to maintain basic body
functions (BMR). Eating below that level will eventually cause your body to
slow it's metabolism to conserve energy. Slower metabolism = slower loss =
need to eat even fewer calories to keep up weight loss.

You would be much much much better off eating sufficient calories and
exercising. That will keep your metabolism at full steam.

Nuts and oils are two good calorie dense foods that you could add to your
diet to increase your calories without adding tons of food.
--
Jeri
265/189/120
Atkins since 11/5/01
"Whether you think you can or think you can't, you're right."




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Old December 6th, 2003, 03:31 PM
Sarah Fox Jahn
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On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:40:13 -0500, "Meowzer"
wrote:
[snip reaction to Steve saying he's eating 300-500 cals a day]
no reason, I picked the number out of the air - you need 1,619 calories a
day just to maintain your BMR (keeps your heart beating, lungs pumping) .
If you really are eating only 300 - 500 calories a day at 190#, you've long
ago collapsed and have been taken to the hospital. I hope your room has
internet access.


Well, he wouldn't collapse and die unless he's been eating that low
for a pretty long time. The body luckily is not that much of a pansy.
People can fast or eat super-low calorie diets and survive. It's tough
on the body for more than a few days definitely, but death within a
week is overkill (excuse the pun) ;-)

I would bet though that he really is eating more calories. I mean, 300
calories could be just 3 extra large eggs and a half oz. of cheddar
cheese, total 316 calories.

I would say he needs to eat *much more* to get his metabolism into a
non-starvation mode. Starving the body and doing a lot of cardio would
be a very bad plan unless you want a nice warm hospital bed in a short
time.

Steven, try www.global-fitness.com/bmr.html to estimate your BMR and
what amount of calories you should be eating to keep your weight loss
going well.

A blurb from the Atkins site describing lack of hunger and how
starving is bad - also mentions how 700-800 calories is only half the
needed calories for an average woman. You can guess Atkins would be
alarmed that you are eating 300-500 calories on his plan.

http://atkins.com/Archive/2001/12/15-115369.html

"Hunger Is Reduced
One of the most attractive features of Atkins is that lipolysis, and
the resulting production of ketones (if you have triggered the
secondary process of ketosis), helps suppress your appetite.
Lipolysis—and the resulting state of ketosis if your carbohydrate
level is low enough—has certain metabolic similarities to fasting. In
either case, after the first 48 hours the body suppresses hunger and
appetite diminishes.

But there is a significant difference from fasting. A prolonged fast
can be dangerous and has one severe metabolic disadvantage: The body
not only burns fat for energy, it also burns protein. This means that
it burns off some of the body’s lean muscle tissue, which is clearly
not desirable. Research has shown that on an eating plan where you are
in lipolysis, and the carbohydrate intake is low enough to result in
ketosis, virtually no lean tissue is lost, only fatty tissue.4-9 And
that’s why for extremely overweight individuals it is possible to be
in lipolysis—and at the carbohydrate level that creates ketosis—for
six months to a year, and confidently know that there will be no ill
effects of any kind.10

People who’ve been burdened with excess pounds for a long time or who
have tried many weight-loss programs often find it very nearly
impossible to drop many pounds unless they’re in lipolysis. There are
people who are unable to lose weight, even on 700 or 800 balanced
calories a day. That’s less than half the normal caloric intake of an
average woman. And yet the pounds finally peeled off when these folks
began to do Atkins, even though their meal plans comprised foods
totaling even more calories."


Sarah Jahn
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Old December 6th, 2003, 06:15 PM
Steven C. \(Doktersteve\)
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"Meowzer" wrote in message
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Well, this was the one that I couldn't ignore. Yes, Steve, you need to
see a doctor. The type of doctor you need to see depends on if you are
being accurate and truthful in your postings or if you just enjoy lying.


Why dont you shut up.
I also happen to be sick right now, if that matters to you. I am fighting a
pretty bad chest cold, and on monday i went to the doctor, who is fully
aware of what is happening with me nutritional wise.
of course, you will assume i am lying about that as well, and i dont have it
in me to scan a copy or my prescription.


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Old December 6th, 2003, 06:16 PM
Steven C. \(Doktersteve\)
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"Meowzer" wrote in message
news:71lAb.46858$yM6.24460@lakeread06...
Well, this was the one that I couldn't ignore. Yes, Steve, you need to
see a doctor. The type of doctor you need to see depends on if you are
being accurate and truthful in your postings or if you just enjoy lying.


Sorry if the last post sounded rude (i am sure it did), but i do not like
being told i am lying etc.


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Old December 6th, 2003, 06:54 PM
Sarah Fox Jahn
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On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 17:15:34 GMT, "Steven C. \(Doktersteve\)"
wrote:
[in response to Meowzer's post]
Why dont you shut up.


Come on - wasn't it you a day ago posting how this is just the
Internet? Chill yerself, dude.

I also happen to be sick right now, if that matters to you. I am fighting a
pretty bad chest cold, and on monday i went to the doctor, who is fully
aware of what is happening with me nutritional wise.
of course, you will assume i am lying about that as well, and i dont have it
in me to scan a copy or my prescription.


Sorry you are sick. I hate to say it but I think your recent eating
habits, if indeed as low-cal as you as you are estimating, could have
weakened your body to the point of inviting infection. Take better
care of yourself ok? :-) And get some rest. Sounds like you need it.

Mom-speak: Remember, lots of fluids! Bed rest! and... EAT WELL!

Sarah Jahn
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Old December 6th, 2003, 07:04 PM
Luna
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Default Can i kick my weight loss into high gear? And why arent i hungry at all?

In article 71lAb.46858$yM6.24460@lakeread06,
"Meowzer" wrote:

Well, this was the one that I couldn't ignore. Yes, Steve, you need to
see a doctor. The type of doctor you need to see depends on if you are
being accurate and truthful in your postings or if you just enjoy lying.

If you are true and accurate in your posting, for example: "I am eating FAR
less than even 1 week ago now as well, I just don't have the appetite
(perhaps 300-500 calories a day only), but I do feel great." (posted Friday,
December 05, 2003 8:44 PM) then you need to see a Physician because you may
well be dead right now. Based on a posting where you mention your weight
and height, "I am five foot 6 inches and weigh about 190 lbs. . ." (posted
Saturday, November 08, 2003 8:59 PM), assuming you are around 35 years old -
no reason, I picked the number out of the air - you need 1,619 calories a
day just to maintain your BMR (keeps your heart beating, lungs pumping) .
If you really are eating only 300 - 500 calories a day at 190#, you've long
ago collapsed and have been taken to the hospital. I hope your room has
internet access.

If, however, you aren't being truthful and accurate in your postings, the
doctor you need to see is a psychologist/psychiatrist. Anyone who finds
their pleasure in lying to strangers definitely needs a cranial adjustment.

Because I hate to think poorly of people, I'm going to believe a third
option, and that is that you just keep lousy records and are eating way more
than you are recording.



I think you're overreacting. I have days when I eat far below my BMR, on
Sundays when I have lunch with my family sometimes that is the only meal I
eat that day. When I'm working at my really physical job, sometimes I skip
breakfast because I have to be there so early, I eat a really quick, small
lunch, then come home and I'm so tired I go to bed right away without
dinner. I know it's not healthy if I did this every day, but I end up
getting back to normal the next day. Steve's appetite will return and he'll
be fine. You can go quite a while without eating very much and not die.

--
-Michelle Levin (Luna)
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick
http://www.mindspring.com/~designbyluna


 




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