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Old March 6th, 2009, 12:17 AM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers,alt.support.diet
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On Mar 3, 2:39*pm, "
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On 3 mar, 09:33, "Dee Flint" wrote:





I bet if you check the calorie count, your calories skyrocketed. *Also I bet
this stuff had a lot of sodium so you started retaining water once again.

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Old March 7th, 2009, 05:15 PM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers,alt.support.diet
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On Thu, 5 Mar 2009 15:17:51 -0800 (PST), "
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If you are a serious overeater, the more of ANYTHING you eat, the more
you want....carbs, protein, fat. It never made any difference to me
when I used to overeat. I know there are lots of opinions about what
keeps you satisfied longer...protein, fat or carbs? The answer to that
one was easy for me: nothing kept me satisfied. I always wanted to eat
more, and still do....I just don't eat once I reach my quota of
calories.


I lost 29 pounds so far in about two and a half months. I am following
Dr. Perricone's recommendations on foods and nutritional supplements.
I haven't had much craving to overeat. I have eaten very little high
carb food since the end of last December. I have had a few bowls of
Ramen noodles, a few bowls of cereal, and a few cups of coffee. They
caused me to gain back a few pounds which then took a few days to get
rid of again. Foods made with flour or sugar are deadly to me. They
make me gain weight rapidly. I'm going to stay off of them for good,
for the rest of my life. They do a lot of damage to your body in many
ways, not just make you fat. I think I haven't had any high carb food
in over a week now. I quit eating any kind of junk food or unhealthy
food. I quit eating anything made of flour, corn, sugar, or rice. I
just eat vegetables, fruit, meat, yogurt, kefir, and nuts. I have
found that I don't really lose much weight if any unless I exercise.
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Old March 7th, 2009, 09:14 PM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers,alt.support.diet
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On Mar 7, 11:15*am, wrote:
On Thu, 5 Mar 2009 15:17:51 -0800 (PST), "

wrote:
If you are a serious overeater, the more of ANYTHING you eat, the more
you want....carbs, protein, fat. It never made any difference to me
when I used to overeat. I know there are lots of opinions about what
keeps you satisfied longer...protein, fat or carbs? The answer to that
one was easy for me: nothing kept me satisfied. I always wanted to eat
more, and still do....I just don't eat once I reach my quota of
calories.


I lost 29 pounds so far in about two and a half months. I am following
Dr. Perricone's recommendations on foods and nutritional supplements.
I haven't had much craving to overeat. I have eaten very little high
carb food since the end of last December. I have had a few bowls of
Ramen noodles, a few bowls of cereal, and a few cups of coffee. They
caused me to gain back a few pounds which then took a few days to get
rid of again. Foods made with flour or sugar are deadly to me. They
make me gain weight rapidly. I'm going to stay off of them for good,
for the rest of my life. They do a lot of damage to your body in many
ways, not just make you fat. I think I haven't had any high carb food
in over a week now. I quit eating any kind of junk food or unhealthy
food. I quit eating anything made of flour, corn, sugar, or rice. I
just eat vegetables, fruit, meat, yogurt, kefir, and nuts. I have
found that I don't really lose much weight if any unless I exercise.


Do you have more energy (or less tiredness) since you quit all these
foods? I seem to be in the same boat as you are.
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Old March 7th, 2009, 11:28 PM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers,alt.support.diet
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On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 12:14:09 -0800 (PST), "
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Do you have more energy (or less tiredness) since you quit all these
foods? I seem to be in the same boat as you are.


At first I think I was lacking some energy and I felt a little
depressed, but then I ate a little more food each day and I started
taking Syntrax r-alpha lipoic acid and Swanson coenzyme Q10. Now my
energy is pretty good. I'm not losing weight as fast I was before, but
I'm still losing about 1.5 to 2 pounds each week, depending on how
much I exercise. I don't want to deprive my body of nutrition or lose
muscle mass. I'm trying to increase muscle mass.

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Old March 16th, 2009, 09:00 PM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers,alt.support.diet
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all very good tips, Lee
"Stephanie" wrote in message
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doug lerner wrote:
This is Doug in Japan. I haven't posted in a while.

People who are long-time members will remember that three years ago I
started at 125 kg and then got down to a low of 78.8 kg over a year
and half or so.

Unfortunately , since last year I've been regaining and regaining and,
sigh, I'm back to where I started and have been at my original weight
for several months now.

It's very depressing. I really thought I had the problem beat this
time, but I ended up regaining like I did twice before.

I don't really have the mental energy to stick with it again. I can't
understand it. I could go 700 days without even ONE time going off my
diet and now I can't even stick with it a full week.

Very depressing...

doug


Depressing indeed. I started gaining again as well, thoguh I have beeen
trying to find the mental energy to get back on the band wagon and
re-learn those healthy habits.

One thing that worked for me, in terms of the mental energy thing, is
treat it like quitting smoking (if you ever smoked). Don't beat yourself
up for what you didn't do. Give yourself credit for what you DID. You lost
a lot of weight! Good job! Each thing is a step on the road. I quit
smoking literally hunderds of times before I was able to fundamentally
change in order to stay quit. same with your weight loss.

What do you know now that you didn't know then. You know without a doubt
that you can do it! You are a strong persosn who has licked this before
and can do again.

So write down your reasons for wanting to lose weight. Your kids? Your
wife. Your grandkids. And don't forget to include vanity reasons. They are
good reasons too. bathing suit weather is coming up here! So I will use
that too,

Then take some time to plan and set a start date. What method would you
prefer? Calorie counting? An actually weight loss program? Whatever. What
I do is plan a few weeks in advance and do what freezer cooking I can.

Best of luck!



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Old March 16th, 2009, 09:06 PM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers,alt.support.diet
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i agree with you, a first glass of wine is wonderful with dinner, and if i
want a second for dessert i plan for it and have it, same for those foods
that aren't exactly "good for you" and having thought a lot about Doug's
post*I met doug in person and he is a doll* i think the issue here might be
the mindset of the "diet" one thing that has kept the majority of my weight
off and blessedly has sustained me through a more than a year plateau is
that it is no longer a diet i go on and off of, it is how i always eat now.

Lee, so glad reaso is here for me to read,
"Stephanie" wrote in message
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wrote:
On Feb 27, 11:01 pm, doug lerner wrote:
This is Doug in Japan. I haven't posted in a while.

People who are long-time members will remember that three years ago I
started at 125 kg and then got down to a low of 78.8 kg over a year
and half or so.

Unfortunately , since last year I've been regaining and regaining
and, sigh, I'm back to where I started and have been at my original
weight for several months now.

It's very depressing. I really thought I had the problem beat this
time, but I ended up regaining like I did twice before.

I don't really have the mental energy to stick with it again. I can't
understand it. I could go 700 days without even ONE time going off my
diet and now I can't even stick with it a full week.

Very depressing...

doug


Yes, and I bet when you were losing, you often weighed yourself, and
exercised and were very careful about what you ate.....then you made
the decision to overeat and miraculously nothing happed at first.
Subconsciously though, you knew it would. You stopped weighing
yourself and exercising and the next thing you know you ballooned back
to where you were. Ah, yes, the yo-yo. Only one thing
works......NEVER, EVER, overeat. Not for your birthday, not for
Christmas, never.




You know, I disagree with this. Overeat on your birthday for Pete's sake.
Just be ready to PAY for it in the upcoming days. Or earn it in the days
that lead up.

One thing I noticed that I am not currently enjoying right now was that
after some time of eating properly, I was more satisfied with less food.
Now I have heard that your stomach does not stretch and shrink, but that
is what it felt like to me. So what would have formerly been overeating
was no longer even possible. But mentally it is just too austere to think
one can never have a bday cake or an extra glass of scotch or whatever
floats their boats.






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Old March 16th, 2009, 09:07 PM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers,alt.support.diet
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and i think this varies from person to person, nothing fills me up and makes
me not hungry longer than a good baked potato, doesn't even need all of the
goop, but i don't lose when i eat them, to any regular degree, Lee
"Stephanie" wrote in message
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Dee Flint wrote:
I bet if you check the calorie count, your calories skyrocketed. Also I
bet this stuff had a lot of sodium so you started retaining
water once again. Also bet you weren't drinking enough liquids so
retained water again. It's not the high carbs. I eat a lot of carbs
and have had no problems dropping 67 pounds.



Well... since veggies are carbs... most peopele do! My main problem with
the breads, potato and whatnot is that they do not stick to the ribs and
keep you satisfied. I am hunry right away when I eat this stuff.




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Old March 16th, 2009, 09:15 PM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers,alt.support.diet
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doug lerner wrote:
This is Doug in Japan. I haven't posted in a while.

People who are long-time members will remember that three years ago I
started at 125 kg and then got down to a low of 78.8 kg over a year
and half or so.

Unfortunately , since last year I've been regaining and regaining and,
sigh, I'm back to where I started and have been at my original weight
for several months now.

It's very depressing. I really thought I had the problem beat this
time, but I ended up regaining like I did twice before.

I don't really have the mental energy to stick with it again. I can't
understand it. I could go 700 days without even ONE time going off my
diet and now I can't even stick with it a full week.

Very depressing...

doug


Depressing indeed. I started gaining again as well, thoguh I have beeen
trying to find the mental energy to get back on the band wagon and re-learn
those healthy habits.

One thing that worked for me, in terms of the mental energy thing, is treat
it like quitting smoking (if you ever smoked). Don't beat yourself up for
what you didn't do. Give yourself credit for what you DID. You lost a lot of
weight! Good job! Each thing is a step on the road. I quit smoking literally
hunderds of times before I was able to fundamentally change in order to
stay quit. same with your weight loss.

What do you know now that you didn't know then. You know without a doubt
that you can do it! You are a strong persosn who has licked this before and
can do again.

So write down your reasons for wanting to lose weight. Your kids? Your wife.
Your grandkids. And don't forget to include vanity reasons. They are good
reasons too. bathing suit weather is coming up here! So I will use that too,

Then take some time to plan and set a start date. What method would you
prefer? Calorie counting? An actually weight loss program? Whatever. What I
do is plan a few weeks in advance and do what freezer cooking I can.

Best of luck!


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Old March 16th, 2009, 09:22 PM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers,alt.support.diet
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wrote:
On Feb 27, 11:01 pm, doug lerner wrote:
This is Doug in Japan. I haven't posted in a while.

People who are long-time members will remember that three years ago I
started at 125 kg and then got down to a low of 78.8 kg over a year
and half or so.

Unfortunately , since last year I've been regaining and regaining
and, sigh, I'm back to where I started and have been at my original
weight for several months now.

It's very depressing. I really thought I had the problem beat this
time, but I ended up regaining like I did twice before.

I don't really have the mental energy to stick with it again. I can't
understand it. I could go 700 days without even ONE time going off my
diet and now I can't even stick with it a full week.

Very depressing...

doug


Yes, and I bet when you were losing, you often weighed yourself, and
exercised and were very careful about what you ate.....then you made
the decision to overeat and miraculously nothing happed at first.
Subconsciously though, you knew it would. You stopped weighing
yourself and exercising and the next thing you know you ballooned back
to where you were. Ah, yes, the yo-yo. Only one thing
works......NEVER, EVER, overeat. Not for your birthday, not for
Christmas, never.




You know, I disagree with this. Overeat on your birthday for Pete's sake.
Just be ready to PAY for it in the upcoming days. Or earn it in the days
that lead up.

One thing I noticed that I am not currently enjoying right now was that
after some time of eating properly, I was more satisfied with less food. Now
I have heard that your stomach does not stretch and shrink, but that is what
it felt like to me. So what would have formerly been overeating was no
longer even possible. But mentally it is just too austere to think one can
never have a bday cake or an extra glass of scotch or whatever floats their
boats.




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Old March 16th, 2009, 09:33 PM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers,alt.support.diet
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Dee Flint wrote:
I bet if you check the calorie count, your calories skyrocketed. Also I
bet this stuff had a lot of sodium so you started retaining
water once again. Also bet you weren't drinking enough liquids so
retained water again. It's not the high carbs. I eat a lot of carbs
and have had no problems dropping 67 pounds.



Well... since veggies are carbs... most peopele do! My main problem with the
breads, potato and whatnot is that they do not stick to the ribs and keep
you satisfied. I am hunry right away when I eat this stuff.


 




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