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Meridia/Wellbutrin/Slim-Fast progress
I'm a lurker. But I thought I should post my progress, because it's been
good. But I'm scared about losing it. October 2002: I was originally about 182 lb, 5'5, Male, and I started taking Meridia in Oct 02 to about December 2002 or a little later, maybe January (10s and then 15s). I then tried Ionamin (Phentermine) for about a month. It makes you sketchy. I believe I was hovering around 172 by this time. I was eating quite a bit still, and not exercising regularly. August 03: I then went on Wellbutrin in August of 03, and I was around 172 at the time. I also started Slim-Fast. I went to about 167 while on Wellby. February 1, 04: Joined a gym, and was still on the Slim-Fast program, and exercised 3x a week. Started at 167 and went down to 160. February 19, 04: Started Meridia 10 and then went to 15mg. Was 160 lb. Vigourous exercise 5 times a week for 30 minutes (cardio) or 20 minutes cardio/20 minutes weights, keeping on Slim Fast and medium-carb/low-cal diet. Heading toward 150 lb. Today: 153.5 lb. So that's about 30 lb in about a year. Anyone got similar results? I think the commitment to exercise has made all the difference. I was such a lazy ass before, but at some point, you just have to say enough is enough, eh? Where will it get you if you don't, I figure? Also, anyone had any trouble getting their insurance companies to cover this with the right paper work? My BMI was over 30 at the start of treatment, and I have a family history of stroke, so I should be covered, but I'm waiting to hear back on it. Thanks all, and the best of luck to everyone's weight loss. |
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Mark wrote:
February 19, 04: Started Meridia 10 and then went to 15mg. Was 160 lb. Vigourous exercise 5 times a week for 30 minutes (cardio) or 20 minutes cardio/20 minutes weights, keeping on Slim Fast and medium-carb/low-cal diet. Imagine how much easier it would have been without sucking down all that sugar in the Slim Fast. The stuff really isn't all they claim it to be. -- Smokey 425/225/2?? - Orwell and Roddenberry weren't just writers, they were prophets. - "A lie can go round the world before the truth has got its boots on." Terry Pratchett - "Nothing will benefit human health and increase the chances for survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution of a vegetarian diet." Albert Einstein |
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"Draebyerg" wrote in message ... Mark wrote: February 19, 04: Started Meridia 10 and then went to 15mg. Was 160 lb. Vigourous exercise 5 times a week for 30 minutes (cardio) or 20 minutes cardio/20 minutes weights, keeping on Slim Fast and medium-carb/low-cal diet. Imagine how much easier it would have been without sucking down all that sugar in the Slim Fast. The stuff really isn't all they claim it to be. No, but it does give me the energy with minimal (230) calories. I'd certainly be willign to try another something-or-other, if you would be kind enoguh to suggest it. But it has to be as easy as the Slim Fast...i.e. being able to be purchased in a can and consumed immediately...I buy the premixed stuff. I don't liek the sugar factor either, because there is a lot, but, I don't knwo anything that would be easier than that. Do you? |
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Mark wrote:
"Draebyerg" wrote in message ... Mark wrote: February 19, 04: Started Meridia 10 and then went to 15mg. Was 160 lb. Vigourous exercise 5 times a week for 30 minutes (cardio) or 20 minutes cardio/20 minutes weights, keeping on Slim Fast and medium-carb/low-cal diet. Imagine how much easier it would have been without sucking down all that sugar in the Slim Fast. The stuff really isn't all they claim it to be. No, but it does give me the energy with minimal (230) calories. I'd certainly be willign to try another something-or-other, if you would be kind enoguh to suggest it. But it has to be as easy as the Slim Fast...i.e. being able to be purchased in a can and consumed immediately...I buy the premixed stuff. I don't liek the sugar factor either, because there is a lot, but, I don't knwo anything that would be easier than that. Do you? As for the nutritional aspect of it, try Carnation Instant Breakfast, the no sugar added variety. It has about the same numbers as the Slim Fast, but without the sugar overload, and a fraction of the calories. It doesn't come in cans, but isn't your health and weight loss efforts worth the 10 seconds or so that it takes to stir the powder into a glass of milk? -- Smokey 425/225/2?? - Orwell and Roddenberry weren't just writers, they were prophets. - "A lie can go round the world before the truth has got its boots on." Terry Pratchett - "Nothing will benefit human health and increase the chances for survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution of a vegetarian diet." Albert Einstein |
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"Draebyerg" wrote in message ... Mark wrote: "Draebyerg" wrote in message ... Mark wrote: February 19, 04: Started Meridia 10 and then went to 15mg. Was 160 lb. Vigourous exercise 5 times a week for 30 minutes (cardio) or 20 minutes cardio/20 minutes weights, keeping on Slim Fast and medium-carb/low-cal diet. Imagine how much easier it would have been without sucking down all that sugar in the Slim Fast. The stuff really isn't all they claim it to be. No, but it does give me the energy with minimal (230) calories. I'd certainly be willign to try another something-or-other, if you would be kind enoguh to suggest it. But it has to be as easy as the Slim Fast...i.e. being able to be purchased in a can and consumed immediately...I buy the premixed stuff. I don't liek the sugar factor either, because there is a lot, but, I don't knwo anything that would be easier than that. Do you? As for the nutritional aspect of it, try Carnation Instant Breakfast, the no sugar added variety. It has about the same numbers as the Slim Fast, but without the sugar overload, and a fraction of the calories. It doesn't come in cans, but isn't your health and weight loss efforts worth the 10 seconds or so that it takes to stir the powder into a glass of milk? -- Smokey 425/225/2?? If the whole Milk stirring thing really is overburdensome and money is not an issue, some of the meal replacement supplements like Glucerna and Ensure light are pretty good with Sugar. j - Orwell and Roddenberry weren't just writers, they were prophets. - "A lie can go round the world before the truth has got its boots on." Terry Pratchett - "Nothing will benefit human health and increase the chances for survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution of a vegetarian diet." Albert Einstein |
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Jayjay" Newsgroups: alt.support.diet,alt.support.diet.rx Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 9:25 AM Subject: Meridia/Wellbutrin/Slim-Fast progress Good for you for making a strong effort to lose the weight. Although you took drugs to help, I am a strong believer that the drugs only decrease your appetitie to help you stay in control. But the true weight loss was thru your eating habits (or lack of eating in the case of weight loss) and exercise. To JAYJAY: I agree that the drugs are not the way to go. I'm 100% in concordance. But the problem is how to change eating habits. In my situation, it's a little bit different, because I don't live a 9-5 lifestyle, I live a 2-9 PM lifestyle, which leaves me at the gym around 11 PM at night. And that's where I think a lot of the problem is. It's hard to adjust my eating habits accordingly, and I end up eating before bed, or, waking up in the middle of the night, and eating carbs. I want to go to an eating disorders group, but I'm not able to, because ... working 2-9 just does not facilitate being able to go to group meetings and those sorts of things. I have no idea what I am going to do about going off Meridia, because I know I will have to. I will go back on the Wellbutrin, which helps as well, but, I don't know what to do in the future to keep in the 140s... (I'm trying to get under 150, I'm 5'6, male, 25 yrs). |
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Julianne" Newsgroups: alt.support.diet,alt.support.diet.rx Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 9:29 AM Subject: Meridia/Wellbutrin/Slim-Fast progress If the whole Milk stirring thing really is overburdensome and money is not an issue, some of the meal replacement supplements like Glucerna and Ensure light are pretty good with Sugar. Hey all, and I'd like to sincerely thank you all for your replies... I appreciate them very much. TO JULIANNE, JAYJAY and ALL: I'm inclined to go toward something like Ensure instead. I'm looking for something in the 200-250 calorie range. My concern is the amount of fat and carbs in the shakes. I'm wondering what type of shake that I could have that will give me the satisfaction of Slim Fast and the caloric energy, without being too high in fat or carbohydrates. There's a number of different kinds of Ensure products around... What one do you think would be the best to go with? I'm a little scared that by giving up the Slim Fast, I'll start putting on weight. But I guess it's all a marketing ploy, really, right? "Slim Fast" is just the name...but I could be drinking anything with similar ingredients and getting similar results, am I not correct? I'm actually up in CANADA, and here we have a brand called Presidents' Choice, and they a shake called "Ultra". Anyone tried this? It looks high in calories, but it may be an option if anyone here has had good experiences with it... Also, Jayjay's idea of a Myoplex premixed shake might be good too. Is it alright to get so much calories from protein and not carbs, though? Or will I be too weak from the lack of sugars, if I go with those? Or maybe a combination of 1 slim fast, 1 protein (Ensure HP or Myoplex) might work? The premixed factor is really important to me...I live in a pretty big city with a fast lifestyle where I just don't have the time to do anything with a blender just yet. Maybe when the sun starts coming up earlier and its warmer, I'll be more inclined to get up and do those sorts of things, but I just don't have the time now. |
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Mark wrote:
"Draebyerg" wrote in message ... Imagine how much easier it would have been without sucking down all that sugar in the Slim Fast. The stuff really isn't all they claim it to be. That's what I was thinking. I've lost 60 pounds since Sept. of 2002 and didn't drink any Slimfast. No, but it does give me the energy with minimal (230) calories. I eat four or five meals a day where some of those meals are planned 200 calorie snacks. (I just ate a balance bar, for example.) 230 calories of sugar isn't enough benefit for the calories, IMO. I'd certainly be willign to try another something-or-other, if you would be kind enoguh to suggest it. But it has to be as easy as the Slim Fast...i.e. being able to be purchased in a can and consumed immediately...I buy the premixed stuff. Myoplex Lite tastes pretty good - try the Cappacino Ice flavor. I buy mine at www.vitaglo.com. I don't get it pre-mixed, though, as I'm capable of adding milk and some ice cubes to a shaker. I'm a bit interested in your philosophy: you want to lose weight but don't want to bother doing it by learning how to feed your body appropriately? Is there something WRONG with eating good foods? Dally 244/179/170 |
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"Jayjay" wrote in message
... On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 13:35:08 -0500, "Mark" wrote: Mark, which group are you reading and posting from. Julianne and I are in ASD and if we can stop the crossposting, it would be nice. Although the subject matter is pertanent to both groups, I hate to see the thread drag on in a group that is not participating. Hey. Thanks for letting me know. I'm going to keep it to ASD from now on, there is more traffic here anyway, and more resourcefulness, it seems. Anyhow. I hope I'm getting this straight. 1. you work a afternoon shift (2nd shift) of 2pm to 9pm. Yep. Sun-Thurs. 2. you don't get up early enough for daylight hours to make a shake? What I meant by this was that I get up around 1, so I don't have time to do anything before I leave to work at 2. And right now, with the cold weather, and snow, there's no motivation to wake up earlier, like, say, 11, and do things like exercise or make shakes. Because it's so cold. But maybe when the weather is better, I'll have the motivation to get up and exercise in the mornings and make shakes. 3. you don't get to the gym till 11pm, so that puts your last meal of the day at a late time frame. And you struggle with eating habits due to your shiftwork hours. Yep. I tend to have a shake at 2-3 PM, then another around 6 PM, as well as a small snack with each of those (fruit or salad) and then dinner at 10 PM, then gym, then a snack after that, and sleep around 2 AM. 4. you are male, 5'4" and w/ a goal of 140lbs. About 5'5 145 is a reasonable goal. 5. you are doing a meal replacement (shake) to lose weight and if you are using only this, then you are most likely consuming less than 1000 cals a day. That is a bit concerning I've counted. I take in about 650 in shakes and snacks, and then about 600 from dinner and evening food, lots of protein (about 300 grams of chicken breasts a day...thats about 2/3 of a pound) and 100 cal of soy protein "veggie gruond beef". 6. you are trying to find a way to change your eating habits and dealing with going off meds for weight loss. Yep, because I don't want to be on meds forever... You've come to the right place. I can't believe the amount of help and support on here... I am so thankful for it... I never though much about posting here before because I thought there was too much traffic for anyone to notice. Some things to consider. 1. Nutritional education. One thing that comes to mind is your concern over protein vs. carbs. [etc. etc. **snip**] is trying to regain that "sugar high" and is craving foods. Generally you crave more carby foods for the quick energy. Well, I do know a little about that already, and as a result, I have cut starchy carbs almost entirely out of my diet, except for 100 calories in bread, and a banana a day. I cut out pasta entirely... (or mabye once a week in a frozen meal for a treat or if I am in a rush). But are the Slim Fast shakes a bad idea for my glycemic levels? If so, how bad? Anyhow - if you regulate your sugar intake, increase your fiber, increase your protein, you'll find you have the same energy, less food cravings and can handle the odd work shifts. I'm having trouble discerning the difference between fibre and starchy carbs. Like, a lot of cereals are considered good sources of fibre...but they also contain starch, don't they? I snack on a bowl of Special K these days...how does that score for starchiness? My dinner is the same every night... A Stir-fry: 2/3 a pound (300 grams) chicken breasts (that's about 3 breasts), 4 cups of oriental veggies (total of about 120 calories - mostly broccoli, but some mushrooms and onions), 1 to 1.5 cups of hot salsa, a cup of soy "veggie" ground beef protein (about 100 calories total), a teaspoon of cheeze whiz light (50 cal or so). And half a teaspoon of extra virgin olive oil. And if I'm still hungry, I have a chicken breast before bed, half a grapefruit, and two slices of plain toast. And throughout the day I drink all sugar-free drinks and crystal light at night. No water ever...I hate it. My exercise routine is ... as much as possible. Every day of the week pretty much. either 30 minutes of cardio, with heart rate about 150-170, or a comb of 20 minutes cardio and 20-30 minutes free weights. I heard keeping the heart rate in the right zone is important, but I can't help it from pushing 160, and sweating a lot. It almost seems HARDER to keep it toned down in the 145-155 range. Hopefully, I'm on the right track... Thanks again for all advice... |
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Mark wrote:
But the problem is how to change eating habits. In my situation, it's a little bit different, because I don't live a 9-5 lifestyle, I live a 2-9 PM lifestyle, which leaves me at the gym around 11 PM at night. And that's where I think a lot of the problem is. It's hard to adjust my eating habits accordingly, and I end up eating before bed, or, waking up in the middle of the night, and eating carbs. I want to go to an eating disorders group, but I'm not able to, because ... working 2-9 just does not facilitate being able to go to group meetings and those sorts of things. These are all excuses. Bad ones, at that. Have you considered going to bed after work (say, around 11 pm) and getting up at 7 am and doing all sorts of things BEFORE work? That's what I did when I did shift work. In fact, I work both shifts now and I *still* manage to get my workouts in and eat healthy. And raise three children. We've all got 24 hours. It's up to you to choose what to do with them. Dally |
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