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Diet/Exercise Equally Useful for Weight Loss
GaryG wrote:
No one needs your permission to run any scientific study they might wish of 2PD-OMER. I do not need Pfizer's permission to conduct a study of Viagra, I do not the Maharishi's permssion to investigate the medical effects of Transcendental Meditation, I do not need Arthur Agaston's permission to run a study on the South Beach Diet. And no scientist needs your permission to investigate 2PD-OMER. It remains wise to get permission before using copyrighted material. Having a group of people limit their food intake to two pounds a day has nothing whatsoever to do with copyright law. Using the 2PD-OMER Approach in the manner as described as published on the HeartMDPhD.com web site however does. Why, is it a pyramid scheme, wherein the suckers have to pass on your written words to ten of their friends? Because if it does not involve repeating your words, at length and without your permission, then there is no violation of copyright law. Truth is simple. -- cary Congratulations, Cary...Andy now imagines that you're one of the "convicted". Of course, with his delusions it doesn't take much for him to put you in that category. Last year, he was imagining that he could see the "mark of Satan" on lots of folks' foreheads. Or even transmogrified into a "demon" and "sockpuppet of satan", lacking "free will", and "loitering on usenet". -- "To err is human, to cover it up is Weasel" -- Dogbert |
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On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 07:26:19 -0800, GaryG wrote:
Well now, GG, here's your Golden Chance to be the one who makes the million, drawing attention and praise and chicks and endorsements galore for breaking the 2PD Davinci Code or... to take it tho the science reviews yourself, it is a win-win for you. Somehow I think, God Himself only knows why, you're going to do neither. Disprove the 2PD or embrace it and have it "proven" by scientific means". I'll wait for you to decide. Don't count on me holding Mu breath. Welcome back, Mrs. Chung. It's been a while. Poor Mr. Chung must be getting quite upset if he's decided to let you out to play. Is it because the world didn't end via the "global earthquake" and "nuclear exchange" he predicted last spring? Is he still upset that his visions of worldwide death and destruction haven't come to pass? GG Oh good, another Chung=Mu dolt. No matter that this has been resolved, archived and put to the ultimate test, we still have the those like GG who defy Google Groups evidences to make patter with their pitter. How should Mu deal with this? Hmmmmmmmm. Same way as ever? *PLONK* ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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Diet/Exercise Equally Useful for Weight Loss
On 30 Jan 2007 03:12:31 -0800, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet. This can be a difficult concept for those who attend alt.supportdiet or similar groups. Everything has to be seen as a program, a diet, a way of temporal existence. Look at the two modern definitions of the word "diet" # The usual food and drink of a person or animal. # A regulated selection of foods, as for medical reasons or cosmetic weight loss. Chung and I talk of the first, everyone else talks of the second. Regulated, "selection of foods", et al. So sad. Eat less, that's all. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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"Mu" wrote in message
... "In 1997, my wife and I watched an IMAX film about climbing Mt. Everest and learned that despite their exhausting regimen, the climbers consumed only 10 lbs of food per week. That's less than 2 lbs of food per day! Since none of the climbers died from starvation, my initial thought was that 2 lbs of food per day should be more than adequate for us non-climbing folks." On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 19:50:25 +0000 (UTC), Cary Kittrell wrote: Of course, climbers of Mount Everest a -- incredibly fit athletes, who: -- ate so little, not because it was all they would wish, but because: -- like climbers everywhere, they begrudge e v e r y s i n g l e g r a m that they have to carry six miles up through cold, impossible terrain, and scant oxygen, so they: -- choose the most concentrated possible foodstuffs available, meaning that two pounds of mountaineer's food is quite different from two pounds from your local produce section or meat counter, and finally that: -- these dietary restrictions, imposed by necessity, were in effect for at most weeks at a time. Not that I am denigrating the benefits for some of us, possibly most of us, in lowering our caloric intakes. I just point out that you're comparing apples and raccoons. -- cary The climbers were incredibly fit, in what respect? As to ability to max caloric intake to energy system output? Oxygen (in)dependent environments? The point is that regardless of their "fitness", they were able to push their ( your words) incredible fitness to the max on an incredible lack of food per pound. 2 pounds of simple "trail mix" is about 4200 kcalories. Most people who aren't trying to climb Everest would easily gain weight on that "diet". Btw, when you went on the 2PD, what were your experiences? Why would anyone want to go on a "diet" that's never been seriously studied, makes no recommendations regarding macro or micro nutrients, and is only espoused by a single Usenet whacko who claims it was inspired by God (or, IMAX...not sure which)? This same whacko last year predicted that the world would soon end due to a "global earthquake" and a "nuclear exchange". GG ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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Mu wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 07:26:19 -0800, GaryG wrote: Well now, GG, here's your Golden Chance to be the one who makes the million, drawing attention and praise and chicks and endorsements galore for breaking the 2PD Davinci Code or... to take it tho the science reviews yourself, it is a win-win for you. Somehow I think, God Himself only knows why, you're going to do neither. Disprove the 2PD or embrace it and have it "proven" by scientific means". I'll wait for you to decide. Don't count on me holding Mu breath. Welcome back, Mrs. Chung. It's been a while. Poor Mr. Chung must be getting quite upset if he's decided to let you out to play. Is it because the world didn't end via the "global earthquake" and "nuclear exchange" he predicted last spring? Is he still upset that his visions of worldwide death and destruction haven't come to pass? GG Oh good, another Chung=Mu dolt. No matter that this has been resolved, archived and put to the ultimate test, we still have the those like GG who defy Google Groups evidences to make patter with their pitter. How should Mu deal with this? Hmmmmmmmm. Same way as ever? *PLONK* Run Away! -- "To err is human, to cover it up is Weasel" -- Dogbert |
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Diet/Exercise Equally Useful for Weight Loss
Mu wrote:
On 30 Jan 2007 03:12:31 -0800, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote: The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet. This can be a difficult concept for those who attend alt.supportdiet or similar groups. Everything has to be seen as a program, a diet, a way of temporal existence. Look at the two modern definitions of the word "diet" # The usual food and drink of a person or animal. # A regulated selection of foods, as for medical reasons or cosmetic weight loss. Chung and I talk of the first, everyone else talks of the second. Regulated, "selection of foods", et al. But Chung is a kook. So what is your excuse? So sad. Eat less, that's all. Did you send him your thirty bucks yet? -- "To err is human, to cover it up is Weasel" -- Dogbert |
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GaryG wrote:
"Mu" wrote in message .. . "In 1997, my wife and I watched an IMAX film about climbing Mt. Everest and learned that despite their exhausting regimen, the climbers consumed only 10 lbs of food per week. That's less than 2 lbs of food per day! Since none of the climbers died from starvation, my initial thought was that 2 lbs of food per day should be more than adequate for us non-climbing folks." On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 19:50:25 +0000 (UTC), Cary Kittrell wrote: Of course, climbers of Mount Everest a -- incredibly fit athletes, who: -- ate so little, not because it was all they would wish, but because: -- like climbers everywhere, they begrudge e v e r y s i n g l e g r a m that they have to carry six miles up through cold, impossible terrain, and scant oxygen, so they: -- choose the most concentrated possible foodstuffs available, meaning that two pounds of mountaineer's food is quite different from two pounds from your local produce section or meat counter, and finally that: -- these dietary restrictions, imposed by necessity, were in effect for at most weeks at a time. Not that I am denigrating the benefits for some of us, possibly most of us, in lowering our caloric intakes. I just point out that you're comparing apples and raccoons. -- cary The climbers were incredibly fit, in what respect? As to ability to max caloric intake to energy system output? Oxygen (in)dependent environments? The point is that regardless of their "fitness", they were able to push their ( your words) incredible fitness to the max on an incredible lack of food per pound. 2 pounds of simple "trail mix" is about 4200 kcalories. Most people who aren't trying to climb Everest would easily gain weight on that "diet". Btw, when you went on the 2PD, what were your experiences? Why would anyone want to go on a "diet" that's never been seriously studied, makes no recommendations regarding macro or micro nutrients, and is only espoused by a single Usenet whacko who claims it was inspired by God (or, IMAX...not sure which)? This same whacko last year predicted that the world would soon end due to a "global earthquake" and a "nuclear exchange". Note: no response from either of the physiology "experts". -- "To err is human, to cover it up is Weasel" -- Dogbert |
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Chung Filter
There was discussion about the "Chung" filter problem in newsreaders.
Agent was suggested as a way of getting rid of the Chung crossposts, for reasons I have now managed to forget. Something about being able to reject crossposted threads, I believe. Thunderbird will eliminate Chung postings by just making a filter for "Chung" in the Sender section. Also click on the dot beside "Contains Any of the Following". This method won't eliminate the cross posted replies to these Chung based threads in Thunderbird. Getting rid of Chung is a sort of pleasurable thing to do, and seeing the residual threads is a reminder that you have choked off his direct messages. Chung's ego probably prevents him from crossposting under the names "Nancy" or "Phyllis". :-) Jim |
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Diet/Exercise Equally Useful for Weight Loss
In article writes:
On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 20:46:26 +0900, en wrote: On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 02:58:18 -0500, Mu wrote: Well now, GG, here's your Golden Chance to be the one who makes the million, drawing attention and praise and chicks and endorsements galore for breaking the 2PD Davinci Code or... to take it tho the science reviews yourself, it is a win-win for you. Somehow I think, God Himself only knows why, you're going to do neither. Disprove the 2PD or embrace it and have it "proven" by scientific means". I'll wait for you to decide. Don't count on me holding Mu breath. So tell us these secret conditions of this offer, and we'll all have a go and see for ourselves. jack Done hunfreds of times, jack, try Google Groups. The conditions surrounding the supposed million dollar guarantee? No, not even once, actually. -- cary |
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