Fat people, get real

On 8 Dec 2003, Ignoramus25226 wrote:
Let me ask you.

If someone is fat and likes being fat, what's wrong with that?


Top 10 reasons fat people are not accepted:

10. They are slow and slothlike, lumbering towards their destination,
blocking you from yours.
9. The cost society billions of dollars in obesity related diseases.
8. They ruin your dinner out because they are so disgusting to look at as
they feed ravenously.
7. They smell like sweat and **** from the inability to reach themselves.
6. They don't bathe nearly as often as normal people.
5. They complain about everything and are generally rude and unpleasant
since they are so miserable.
4. They are always single-minded, looking for their next trough of food.
3. At movie theaters and on airplanes they always selfishly invade your
space.
2. They rarely try to lose weight and prefer to remain gluttonous hogs.
They usually lie about their diets.
1. They get in the way of looking at normal, thin, good-looking people.

HTH

S*nort

Roger Zoul wrote:

Karen Rodgers wrote:
::
:: If I'm going to have a serious cheat, I'll have a peice of cake, one
:: that I made from scratch with a real buttercream (or whipped cream)
:: frosting, not some store bought yuck fest topped with shortening and
:: powdered sugar, or, worse, a cake out of a box mix with canned
:: frosting. That's not worth anyone's time, dieting, or not. Long
:: story short, give me a quality cheat, not a substandard one. I'm
:: with
:: you, give me something worth eating, not just junk.

Exactly. No more junk eating. I'm going to practice getting enjoyment out
of just two bites of something really really good.

You know, I'm coming to that conclusion myself. I'd rather have
something good on rare occasions than something bad. Case in
point: bread. I don't even like the way the LC breads smell.
Today I bought some decent bread to dump into the freezer. It's
carby--maybe 15 or so g per slice, but at least it will taste
decent when I eat it.

I haven't really enjoyed a lot of the LC products I've had (some
of the Mike's LC Gourmet meals and maybe Atkins crunchers being
the exception). I think I will eventually try to reduce the carb
content of some things (like pie), but I want food that tastes
good. If it is LC fine, if it is moderately carby I might eat it
in moderation someday, if it is really high carb, I probably won't
eat it.

::
:: That reminds me, does anyone have a good lc recipe for fruitcake
:: (light, not dark)? I'm thinking of doing one with nuts, berries, and
:: some other lc friendly fruit (none of that nasty traditional candied
:: fruit, ick, pooey). I know, you start with almond flour...

Oh my....I really enjoy fruitcake (haven't had any in at least two years).
A LC version would really be nice.

Now how could one do that? All that candied fruit... Even if you
started with dried fruit, the fruit itself would be carby. Too
bad for those of us who like fruitcake, eh Roger?

--
Jean B.

On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 18:27:10 -0500, "Jean B." wrote:

::
:: That reminds me, does anyone have a good lc recipe for fruitcake
:: (light, not dark)? I'm thinking of doing one with nuts, berries, and
:: some other lc friendly fruit (none of that nasty traditional candied
:: fruit, ick, pooey). I know, you start with almond flour...

Oh my....I really enjoy fruitcake (haven't had any in at least two years).
A LC version would really be nice.

Now how could one do that? All that candied fruit... Even if you
started with dried fruit, the fruit itself would be carby. Too
bad for those of us who like fruitcake, eh Roger?

Much as I love a traditional fruitcake with candied fruit (sans
citron), I made one from dried summer fruits once that really beat the
band. I will have to do some experimenting, and see what I come up
with.

Almonds, instead of walnuts (to compliment the almond flour), and I
will have to go through some fruits to see what I can use. The
cherries can probably go in, fresh, or dried, not candied. Maybe
dried blueberries... A brandy instead of rum for a light cake, dark,
you'd still want rum.

Hmm.... This might work.

Karen Rodgers

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Karen Rodgers wrote:

Much as I love a traditional fruitcake with candied fruit (sans
citron), I made one from dried summer fruits once that really beat the
band. I will have to do some experimenting, and see what I come up
with.

Almonds, instead of walnuts (to compliment the almond flour), and I
will have to go through some fruits to see what I can use. The
cherries can probably go in, fresh, or dried, not candied. Maybe
dried blueberries... A brandy instead of rum for a light cake, dark,
you'd still want rum.

Hmm.... This might work.

Karen Rodgers

I hope you succeed, Karen!!! I love fruitcake.

--
Jean B.

(ADP) wrote in
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http://archive.salon.com/sept97/news/news970912.html


Very good article! I swear, I don't understand "fat acceptance" groups as
they are. It's one thing to accept fat people as actual people instead of
treating them inhumanely, but it's another thing to accept *being* fat.
There's nothing healthy about being morbidly obese. It's not normal and
it's definitely not healthy by any stretch of the imagination.

Groups like NAAFA seem to discourage dieting. I see that as a "misery loves
company" tactic and people shouldn't be fooled by their sabotage. If *any*
type of diet out there leads someone to a better WOE, then he/she should go
for it!

I think what sucks most is the fact that most people don't get that you CAN
eat a lot of healthy, yet tasty, foods each day and still maintain a
healthy weight if exercise is included. You have to see exercise as
important enough to set time aside each day for it.

JBA

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On 8 Dec 2003 12:36:55 -0800, (A J Davenport)
wrote:

(ADP) wrote in message
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http://archive.salon.com/sept97/news/news970912.html

STOP THE INSANITY, GET OUT OF THE ZONE. AND DON'T, UNDER ANY
CIRCUMSTANCES TELL YOURSELF IT'S OK TO BE OBESE.

Fat people, get real!

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STOP THE INSANITY, GET OUT OF THE ZONE. AND DON'T, UNDER ANY
CIRCUMSTANCES TELL YOURSELF IT'S OK TO BE OBESE.


BY LORI LEIBOVICH | it's one of the great American paradoxes. The
more we snatch up diet books, ab busters and fen-phen, the fatter
we get. Approximately one-third of adult Americans are overweight.
Fatness -- more politely known as obesity -- results in hundreds
of thousands of deaths each year from heart disease, high blood
pressure, diabetes and cancer.

Last year, a spate of "fat acceptance" books made us feel a little
better about our pear-shaped physiques. All of a sudden, anti-diet
authors fed us the tasty news: You can be fit and fat.

Enter Michael Fumento.

Gee, would this be the same Michael Fumento who claims that
hetrosexuals don't get AIDS?

A medical journalist and self-proclaimed "debunker
of faux fears" (his last book was "The Myth of Heterosexual
AIDS"), Fumento is on a crusade.

Guess so!

Consider the source.

AJ
Because, somebody has to be the Diva


LOL!!!! love it AJ!!!

LV

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On 8 Dec 2003, (ADP) wrote:
http://archive.salon.com/sept97/news/news970912.html

STOP THE INSANITY, GET OUT OF THE ZONE. AND DON'T, UNDER ANY
CIRCUMSTANCES
TELL YOURSELF IT'S OK TO BE OBESE.

Fat people, get real!

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STOP THE INSANITY, GET OUT OF THE ZONE. AND DON'T, UNDER ANY
CIRCUMSTANCES
TELL YOURSELF IT'S OK TO BE OBESE.
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What an excellent article. Fumento really knows what he's talking
about.

You wouldn't be saying this if you read Gary Taube's bitch slapping
of him.

and taubes is a typical lying journalist

Obese people should really close the fridge, push away from the table,
and
get on a treadmill.

HTH

S*nort

This Fumento guy is a complete ass. While I agree that obese people
are at significant health risk and need to lose weight, not join fat
support groups, the rest of his arguments are mainly nonsense.

He lumps Atkin in as one of the baseless fad diets that don't work.
He refuses to acknowledge that there are biological and hereditary
factors at work that make it extemely difficult for some people to
stay at a desirable weight. We all know some lucky people that can
eat whatever they like, yet stay very slim. For others, it's just the
opposite, and we've seen quite a few on here that have difficulty
losing weight even when following induction strictly for many weeks.

On 8 Dec 2003 12:36:55 -0800, (A J Davenport),
wrote:

(ADP) wrote in message ...
http://archive.salon.com/sept97/news/news970912.html

STOP THE INSANITY, GET OUT OF THE ZONE. AND DON'T, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES
TELL YOURSELF IT'S OK TO BE OBESE.

Fat people, get real!

----------------------------------------

STOP THE INSANITY, GET OUT OF THE ZONE. AND DON'T, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES
TELL YOURSELF IT'S OK TO BE OBESE.


BY LORI LEIBOVICH | it's one of the great American paradoxes. The more we
snatch up diet books, ab busters and fen-phen, the fatter we get.
Approximately one-third of adult Americans are overweight. Fatness -- more
politely known as obesity -- results in hundreds of thousands of deaths
each year from heart disease, high blood pressure, diabetes and cancer.

Last year, a spate of "fat acceptance" books made us feel a little better
about our pear-shaped physiques. All of a sudden, anti-diet authors fed us
the tasty news: You can be fit and fat.

Enter Michael Fumento.

Gee, would this be the same Michael Fumento who claims that
hetrosexuals don't get AIDS?

Why am I not surprised to find you, yet again, distorting the truth to
give your own position more credibility?

Is your whole life a self contrivance designed to make you feel better
about yourself?

Jade


A medical journalist and self-proclaimed "debunker
of faux fears" (his last book was "The Myth of Heterosexual AIDS"), Fumento
is on a crusade.

Guess so!

Consider the source.

AJ
Because, somebody has to be the Diva

ThereYaGo wrote:

On 8 Dec 2003, Ignoramus25226 wrote:
Let me ask you.

If someone is fat and likes being fat, what's wrong with that?


Top 10 reasons fat people are not accepted:

10. They are slow and slothlike, lumbering towards their destination,
blocking you from yours.
9. The cost society billions of dollars in obesity related diseases.
8. They ruin your dinner out because they are so disgusting to look at as
they feed ravenously.
7. They smell like sweat and **** from the inability to reach themselves.
6. They don't bathe nearly as often as normal people.
5. They complain about everything and are generally rude and unpleasant
since they are so miserable.
4. They are always single-minded, looking for their next trough of food.
3. At movie theaters and on airplanes they always selfishly invade your
space.
2. They rarely try to lose weight and prefer to remain gluttonous hogs.
They usually lie about their diets.
1. They get in the way of looking at normal, thin, good-looking people.

HTH

S*nort


Well, At least they die early.

--Falooley