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Diabetes and weight gain
"Ignoramus25231" wrote in message
... I am curious about something. As you all know, type II diabetes is usually preceded by obesity. To those Type 2s here who were obese, I am curious, did you, at some point in life, suddenly started having very strong hunger, huge cravings, etc? Something unnatural? Or was it simply recreational eating that you could easily regulate? For myself, I ate out of boredom, or out of habit (sitting in front of the teevee meant I had to be eating something), but mostly because of gluttony. I thought the only thing that would go wrong was weight gain. I ate because it tasted good and I concentrated on the three food groups: fat, salt, and sugar. It was unnatural eating, portions out of control and hunger/satiety signals ignored. - Dewolla |
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Diabetes and weight gain
"Ignoramus25231" wrote in message
... I am curious about something. As you all know, type II diabetes is usually preceded by obesity. To those Type 2s here who were obese, I am curious, did you, at some point in life, suddenly started having very strong hunger, huge cravings, etc? Something unnatural? Or was it simply recreational eating that you could easily regulate? For myself, I ate out of boredom, or out of habit (sitting in front of the teevee meant I had to be eating something), but mostly because of gluttony. I thought the only thing that would go wrong was weight gain. I ate because it tasted good and I concentrated on the three food groups: fat, salt, and sugar. It was unnatural eating, portions out of control and hunger/satiety signals ignored. - Dewolla |
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Diabetes and weight gain
"Dewolla Stepon" wrote in message
newspNNc.176615$IQ4.36686@attbi_s02... For myself, I ate out of boredom, or out of habit (sitting in front of the teevee meant I had to be eating something), but mostly because of gluttony. I thought the only thing that would go wrong was weight gain. I ate because it tasted good and I concentrated on the three food groups: fat, salt, and sugar. It was unnatural eating, portions out of control and hunger/satiety signals ignored. Same here... It was mostly psychological troubles (including a period with bulimia crisis and real binge eating, like eating a pound of cake in one go). Maybe diabete did help some with gaining weight, but I seriously doubt it played a major part there. Mostly, it was the ability to totally ignore my satiety and hunger signals, and relying only on the stomach full feeling (that is when I didn't ignore and and just vomited to be able to eat some more). Since I have been paying attention to these signals, losing weight has not been much of a problem. I lost my first 40 pounds in 5 months without feeling hungry or anything, and without any kind of food restriction (only rule during the first months was eating pure sugar only as part of a meal). Hunger/satiety has been my only way of losing weight, I have not done any calorie counting or portion control (except that I stop eating when I'm not hungry anymore) or "diet", since I don't really believe in them. Weight loss is somewhat stalling for a month, but I haven't gained weight either. According to my nutritionist, this is okay, it's just the body adjusting to the new parameters after a significant weight loss and the loss should resume eventually. Satiety/hunger seems in fact to be very strong now. On the rare occasions (either to experiment or for special occasions) where I have been eating beyond satiety, I do get a very *strong* signal that enough is enough, and I stop eating. If I go beyond that, it gets downright nauseating, and I won't feel hungry for a long while afterwards (usually means I won't feel like having breakfast). Looking back, I realize I get that kind of feeling from portions that are half what I used to eat before as a regular meal... Diabete is getting way better too. Lipids are good and dropping (except HDL which is a bit slow to take off). A1c is within the norm (at 5.8%, old value, I have a recheck soon, should have been going further down), fasting glucose is normal (1g), post-prandial (after a large brunch) glucose at 1h30 is equal to fasting value. I have been off meds for three months now, no diet whatsoever. So, it seems diabete doesn't really hinder my ability to lose weight. It doesn't offset my appetite control either. Of course, YMMV. I was diagnosed very early, while young and with an unbalance that was still "reasonnable" (A1c was at 8.1% six months ago, at time of diagnosis, FG at 1.8g). |
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Diabetes and weight gain
"Dewolla Stepon" wrote in message
newspNNc.176615$IQ4.36686@attbi_s02... For myself, I ate out of boredom, or out of habit (sitting in front of the teevee meant I had to be eating something), but mostly because of gluttony. I thought the only thing that would go wrong was weight gain. I ate because it tasted good and I concentrated on the three food groups: fat, salt, and sugar. It was unnatural eating, portions out of control and hunger/satiety signals ignored. Same here... It was mostly psychological troubles (including a period with bulimia crisis and real binge eating, like eating a pound of cake in one go). Maybe diabete did help some with gaining weight, but I seriously doubt it played a major part there. Mostly, it was the ability to totally ignore my satiety and hunger signals, and relying only on the stomach full feeling (that is when I didn't ignore and and just vomited to be able to eat some more). Since I have been paying attention to these signals, losing weight has not been much of a problem. I lost my first 40 pounds in 5 months without feeling hungry or anything, and without any kind of food restriction (only rule during the first months was eating pure sugar only as part of a meal). Hunger/satiety has been my only way of losing weight, I have not done any calorie counting or portion control (except that I stop eating when I'm not hungry anymore) or "diet", since I don't really believe in them. Weight loss is somewhat stalling for a month, but I haven't gained weight either. According to my nutritionist, this is okay, it's just the body adjusting to the new parameters after a significant weight loss and the loss should resume eventually. Satiety/hunger seems in fact to be very strong now. On the rare occasions (either to experiment or for special occasions) where I have been eating beyond satiety, I do get a very *strong* signal that enough is enough, and I stop eating. If I go beyond that, it gets downright nauseating, and I won't feel hungry for a long while afterwards (usually means I won't feel like having breakfast). Looking back, I realize I get that kind of feeling from portions that are half what I used to eat before as a regular meal... Diabete is getting way better too. Lipids are good and dropping (except HDL which is a bit slow to take off). A1c is within the norm (at 5.8%, old value, I have a recheck soon, should have been going further down), fasting glucose is normal (1g), post-prandial (after a large brunch) glucose at 1h30 is equal to fasting value. I have been off meds for three months now, no diet whatsoever. So, it seems diabete doesn't really hinder my ability to lose weight. It doesn't offset my appetite control either. Of course, YMMV. I was diagnosed very early, while young and with an unbalance that was still "reasonnable" (A1c was at 8.1% six months ago, at time of diagnosis, FG at 1.8g). |
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