CLA helps destroy fat cells, helps with insuiln sensitivity

On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 01:25:52 GMT, Barbara Hirsch
wrote:

On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 20:18:35 GMT, none@ (Sped) wrote:

Here's a study that says CLA works very well on humans:

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040520/dcw047a_1.html

That's not a study, it's a press release.

It's not a press release, it's a story in a mainstream news source about a
study showing that CLA helps overweight people lose fat. You can follow
the links and read the actual study for yourself.

On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 03:06:08 GMT, none@ (Sped) wrote:

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040520/dcw047a_1.html

That's not a study, it's a press release.

It's not a press release, it's a story in a mainstream news source about a
study showing that CLA helps overweight people lose fat. You can follow
the links and read the actual study for yourself.

Um no. Look again. At the very top of the page it says "press
release", and the source is Cognis Nutrition & Health, a supplier of
CLA and the supporter of the study.

There is no link to the study in the press release, only to the
Tonalin and Cognis Nutrition sites.

It is also only one study, and one that has a bias at the very least..
You need to understand the entirety of the research to make a
conclusion. I read all of the existing studies when I wrote a review
article on CLA September 2001, but since my review was written almost
three years ago, I referenced two more recent review articles that
have referenced literature published after I wrote my review.,

If you want to make your conclusion on this single, biased study, that
showed minimal results at best, be my guest.

BTW, if you'd like a link to the article, which appeared in the
American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, it is:

http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/79/6/1118

You need a subscription for full text, but since I have one, I'd be
happy to e-mail it to you.




Barbara Hirsch, Publisher
OBESITY MEDS AND RESEARCH NEWS
The latest in obesity research and weight loss drug development
http://www.obesity-news.com/

On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 20:52:47 GMT, Barbara Hirsch
wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 03:06:08 GMT, none@ (Sped) wrote:

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040520/dcw047a_1.html

That's not a study, it's a press release.

It's not a press release, it's a story in a mainstream news source about a
study showing that CLA helps overweight people lose fat. You can follow
the links and read the actual study for yourself.

Um no. Look again. At the very top of the page it says "press
release", and the source is Cognis Nutrition & Health, a supplier of
CLA and the supporter of the study.

OK whatever. You win. It's a press release courtesy of Yahoo Finance.

CLA? I've been on it for a month. I'm I getting ripped off? Maybe, but
it's not like it's a lot of money. Am I ripped? Close, but not quite
there.

I'm in the best shape of my adult life though. CLA!! CLA!!

On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 20:52:47 GMT, Barbara Hirsch
wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 03:06:08 GMT, none@ (Sped) wrote:

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040520/dcw047a_1.html

That's not a study, it's a press release.

It's not a press release, it's a story in a mainstream news source about a
study showing that CLA helps overweight people lose fat. You can follow
the links and read the actual study for yourself.

Um no. Look again. At the very top of the page it says "press
release", and the source is Cognis Nutrition & Health, a supplier of
CLA and the supporter of the study.

OK whatever. You win. It's a press release courtesy of Yahoo Finance.

CLA? I've been on it for a month. I'm I getting ripped off? Maybe, but
it's not like it's a lot of money. Am I ripped? Close, but not quite
there.

I'm in the best shape of my adult life though. CLA!! CLA!!

On 18 Jul 2004 04:16:22 GMT, Ignoramus30884
wrote:

do you train? Maybe it is the training and not CLA.

i
who is also taking CLA but is not sure about it

I don't train, but I do try to get at least an hour of exercise in each
day. Walking, biking, windsurfing, paddling, swimming.. whatever. This
once obese 44 yr old now almost has abs. I *think* CLA has helped.
Anyway, I'm buying another bottle.

On 18 Jul 2004 04:16:22 GMT, Ignoramus30884
wrote:

do you train? Maybe it is the training and not CLA.

i
who is also taking CLA but is not sure about it

I don't train, but I do try to get at least an hour of exercise in each
day. Walking, biking, windsurfing, paddling, swimming.. whatever. This
once obese 44 yr old now almost has abs. I *think* CLA has helped.
Anyway, I'm buying another bottle.

On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 01:25:38 GMT, none@ (Sped) wrote:

OK whatever. You win. It's a press release courtesy of Yahoo Finance.

CLA? I've been on it for a month. I'm I getting ripped off? Maybe, but
it's not like it's a lot of money. Am I ripped? Close, but not quite
there.

I'm in the best shape of my adult life though. CLA!! CLA!!

I'm not out to win anything. If you're happy, I'm happy. CLA probably
doesn't help, but it definitely won't hurt you.

Good luck,

Barbara Hirsch, Publisher
OBESITY MEDS AND RESEARCH NEWS
The latest in obesity research and weight loss drug development
http://www.obesity-news.com/

On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 01:25:38 GMT, none@ (Sped) wrote:

OK whatever. You win. It's a press release courtesy of Yahoo Finance.

CLA? I've been on it for a month. I'm I getting ripped off? Maybe, but
it's not like it's a lot of money. Am I ripped? Close, but not quite
there.

I'm in the best shape of my adult life though. CLA!! CLA!!

I'm not out to win anything. If you're happy, I'm happy. CLA probably
doesn't help, but it definitely won't hurt you.

Good luck,

Barbara Hirsch, Publisher
OBESITY MEDS AND RESEARCH NEWS
The latest in obesity research and weight loss drug development
http://www.obesity-news.com/

On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 16:06:21 GMT, Barbara Hirsch I'm not out to win
anything. If you're happy, I'm happy. CLA probably
doesn't help, but it definitely won't hurt you.

Good luck,

Barbara Hirsch, Publisher
OBESITY MEDS AND RESEARCH NEWS
The latest in obesity research and weight loss drug development
http://www.obesity-news.com/

What about the more recent research (particularily the studies done
amoung teenage girls) that shows milk helps maintain weight (helps to
prevent obesity)? Don't you think that CLA may be a factor there?
I'm not sure about CLA in isolation, or with Green Tea extract etc,
but combined with the calcium, fat and other nutrients in milk, I
wouldn't be at all surprised to find it's a contributor to a
'synergistic blend'. Also, there is recent research that shows much
is to be said for the reduction in the size of fat cells (rather than
just decreasing the volume ie. via liposuction)

Also, are you aware of some recent research showing the anti-cancer
properties of CLA (specifically against breast cancer?) It seems fat
and amino acids are a vastly understudied area just beginning to come
to light (DHA, GLA, etc.)

--
"A particularly significant double-blind, randomized,
placebo-controlled study with CLA, published in the International
Journal of Obesity, found an average reduction of one inch to the
waistlines of 25 men over a four week study period, with no
cardiovascular risk or other side effects."

On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 16:06:21 GMT, Barbara Hirsch I'm not out to win
anything. If you're happy, I'm happy. CLA probably
doesn't help, but it definitely won't hurt you.

Good luck,

Barbara Hirsch, Publisher
OBESITY MEDS AND RESEARCH NEWS
The latest in obesity research and weight loss drug development
http://www.obesity-news.com/

What about the more recent research (particularily the studies done
amoung teenage girls) that shows milk helps maintain weight (helps to
prevent obesity)? Don't you think that CLA may be a factor there?
I'm not sure about CLA in isolation, or with Green Tea extract etc,
but combined with the calcium, fat and other nutrients in milk, I
wouldn't be at all surprised to find it's a contributor to a
'synergistic blend'. Also, there is recent research that shows much
is to be said for the reduction in the size of fat cells (rather than
just decreasing the volume ie. via liposuction)

Also, are you aware of some recent research showing the anti-cancer
properties of CLA (specifically against breast cancer?) It seems fat
and amino acids are a vastly understudied area just beginning to come
to light (DHA, GLA, etc.)

--
"A particularly significant double-blind, randomized,
placebo-controlled study with CLA, published in the International
Journal of Obesity, found an average reduction of one inch to the
waistlines of 25 men over a four week study period, with no
cardiovascular risk or other side effects."