Advice on 'modifying' diet

Hi

I have had several suggestions that my current/previous diet is a tad severe
and lacking in protein. It is as follows...

Almost every day

Breakfast
All Bran 56g 140 cals or porridge 180 cals
..24 pint semi skimmed milk 70 cals

Lunch

Diet Cuppa Soup 55 cals
Brown Bap 130 cals
1 tomato 20 cals
1 stalk celery 5 cals
4 slices cucumber

Dinner

120g boiled chicken without skin 130 cals every other day 180g boiled white
fish 155 cals
200g microwave potato with skin 136 cals
150g vegetables (eg cauliflower, broccoli, cabbage, peas, green beans,
carrots) aprox 110 cals

200 cals for snacks i.e. stalk of celery, apple, orange, pickled beetroot,
raw mushrooms.


That's it. About 1000 cals a day. I go on an exercise bike every other day
starting at 20 mins and the last time I built up to 1 and a half hours every
other day. I also play the drums which is guite a good work out. The last
time I also done quite a lot of weight training and sit-ups building up to
over 200 sit-ups every other day. I am unable to do weight training anymore
due to a neck injury.

I have been on this for 2 weeks now and have lost 8 pounds.

Could somebody suggest a low fat way to perhaps increase my nutrition by
around 200 cals.

Thanks guys.

Jim.



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I am a man aged 39 and currently weigh 287 pounds.

Jim
"Jayjay" wrote in message
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On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 16:13:46 -0000, "Jamberoo"
wrote:

Hi

I have had several suggestions that my current/previous diet is a tad
severe
and lacking in protein. It is as follows...

I'm not sure what your stats are (age, height, weight, sex). But
just in observation here I'd say.

1. Add a protein source to breakfast. You could add a scoop of
protein powder to your cereal or porriage for about 100 cals. (20 -
25g protein depending on the brand). Or add eggs, meat, or other
protein source to your meal.

2. Add a protein source to Lunch. Grilled meat, deli meat, chicken,
pork, fish. A serving will run you about 150 - 200 cals and net you
about 20 - 25g protein.

So, just those 2 options will increase your protein by about 50g per
day and increase your calories by about 300 cals a day.

Of course, depending on your stats, you could use to increase your
calories up to 500 or more calories.

3. Dinner - Add more protein to dinner. Your protein serving should
be more than your carb serving (potato).


Almost every day

Breakfast
All Bran 56g 140 cals or porridge 180 cals
.24 pint semi skimmed milk 70 cals

Lunch

Diet Cuppa Soup 55 cals
Brown Bap 130 cals
1 tomato 20 cals
1 stalk celery 5 cals
4 slices cucumber

Dinner

120g boiled chicken without skin 130 cals every other day 180g boiled
white
fish 155 cals
200g microwave potato with skin 136 cals
150g vegetables (eg cauliflower, broccoli, cabbage, peas, green beans,
carrots) aprox 110 cals

200 cals for snacks i.e. stalk of celery, apple, orange, pickled
beetroot,
raw mushrooms.


That's it. About 1000 cals a day. I go on an exercise bike every other
day
starting at 20 mins and the last time I built up to 1 and a half hours
every
other day. I also play the drums which is guite a good work out. The
last
time I also done quite a lot of weight training and sit-ups building up
to
over 200 sit-ups every other day. I am unable to do weight training
anymore
due to a neck injury.

I have been on this for 2 weeks now and have lost 8 pounds.

Could somebody suggest a low fat way to perhaps increase my nutrition by
around 200 cals.

Thanks guys.

Jim.




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My height is 5' 9"

Jim.

"Jayjay" wrote in message
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On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 16:45:16 -0000, "Jamberoo"
wrote:

I am a man aged 39 and currently weigh 287 pounds.


You didn't give me height.

Anyway.

The standard rule of thumb is:

Weight loss for men: 10 to 12 X your weight
Jim = 287
287 *10 = 2870
287 *12 = 3447

Weight loss should not drop below 8 x your body without being under
medical (doctor's) care and monitoring or on a medically supervised
plan.

287 *8 = 2296

We've had successful people in this group who have dropped on very low
calorie diets (VLCD) but they have been on medically supervised plans.
This means they met with a doctor and nutritionist on a regular basis
to monitor their health to be sure their weight loss was handled in a
healthy manner




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I intend to keep up with cardio vascular exercise (exercise bike and
walking) and try to figure out how many calories I need to maintain my
weight. I was able to keep the weight off for 2 years the last time but had
an accident at work which injured my neck and made me disabled. I
subsequently had to leave my job. Because of this I became seriously
depressed and put on weight. Also I now have 2 boys one 3 and another 6
year old and have found that I am prone to eating there leftover chips,
chicken nuggets etc because I hate to waste food. But I now recon 'is it
better to waste my self or food?'

Anyway I am hopeful that my doctor and maybe this group can help me stay at
a health weight. I have to this time because if I follow the same pattern
as before I could be over 300 pounds for my 50th birthday, and I am very
aware of heart problems and the risk off diabetes.

I want to be around to see my boys grow up!

Jim.

"Jamberoo" wrote in message
...
Hi

I have had several suggestions that my current/previous diet is a tad
severe
and lacking in protein. It is as follows...

Almost every day

Breakfast
All Bran 56g 140 cals or porridge 180 cals
.24 pint semi skimmed milk 70 cals

Lunch

Diet Cuppa Soup 55 cals
Brown Bap 130 cals
1 tomato 20 cals
1 stalk celery 5 cals
4 slices cucumber

Dinner

120g boiled chicken without skin 130 cals every other day 180g boiled
white
fish 155 cals
200g microwave potato with skin 136 cals
150g vegetables (eg cauliflower, broccoli, cabbage, peas, green beans,
carrots) aprox 110 cals

200 cals for snacks i.e. stalk of celery, apple, orange, pickled beetroot,
raw mushrooms.


That's it. About 1000 cals a day. I go on an exercise bike every other
day
starting at 20 mins and the last time I built up to 1 and a half hours
every
other day. I also play the drums which is guite a good work out. The
last
time I also done quite a lot of weight training and sit-ups building up to
over 200 sit-ups every other day. I am unable to do weight training
anymore
due to a neck injury.

I have been on this for 2 weeks now and have lost 8 pounds.

Could somebody suggest a low fat way to perhaps increase my nutrition by
around 200 cals.

Thanks guys.

Jim.



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On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 17:19:52 -0000, "Jamberoo"
wrote:

I intend to keep up with cardio vascular exercise (exercise bike and
walking) and try to figure out how many calories I need to maintain my
weight. I was able to keep the weight off for 2 years the last time but had
an accident at work which injured my neck and made me disabled. I
subsequently had to leave my job. Because of this I became seriously
depressed and put on weight. Also I now have 2 boys one 3 and another 6
year old and have found that I am prone to eating there leftover chips,
chicken nuggets etc because I hate to waste food. But I now recon 'is it
better to waste my self or food?'



Hi Jim,

I've been reading your posts, and I want to say, I think maybe you
need to re-think your approach to diet and weight loss. There's you
eating a very restricted low calorie diet, while your children eat
chicken nuggets and chips? Doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

I'm a newbie dieter, but I have been doing a lot of thinking about it.
It seems to me that the best way to lose weight, and keep it off, is
to establish new eating and activity patterns, which you will be able
to keep up for life. For me this means modifying my previous eating
habits, getting a bit more active, and accepting that it will take me
a long while to lose weight at a sensible rate (1 - 2 lb a week).

It's important to me that I eat with my family, that we eat the same
meals (more or less) - I have a 4 yr old son. Planning meals for the
whole family, son ncluded, makes me more thoughtful about making sure
meals are balanced and varied. And we do have chips sometimes
(low-fat oven cooked ones!). It is also important for me, that my son
gets used to good eating habits (don't want him getting the kind of
messed up relationship to food I have).

Good luck with your diet, whatever approach you decide to take,

C x






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On 5 Mar 2004 17:28:44 GMT, Ignoramus15020
wrote:


chips are not food, by the way...

just to clarify, I think Jim's in the UK and he's talking about chips
as in french fried potatoes, not chips as in potato chips (or crisps
as we Brits call them)

C x
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In Scotland 'chips' are called crisps and 'fries' are called chips. So I
suppose I ment fries?


"Ignoramus15020" wrote in message
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In article , Jamberoo
wrote:
I intend to keep up with cardio vascular exercise (exercise bike and
walking) and try to figure out how many calories I need to maintain my
weight. I was able to keep the weight off for 2 years the last time but
had
an accident at work which injured my neck and made me disabled. I
subsequently had to leave my job. Because of this I became seriously
depressed and put on weight. Also I now have 2 boys one 3 and another 6
year old and have found that I am prone to eating there leftover chips,
chicken nuggets etc because I hate to waste food. But I now recon 'is
it
better to waste my self or food?'

chips are not food, by the way...

I also have a kid and I also finish off his meals.

Anyway I am hopeful that my doctor and maybe this group can help me
stay at a health weight. I have to this time because if I follow
the same pattern as before I could be over 300 pounds for my 50th
birthday, and I am very aware of heart problems and the risk off
diabetes.

I want to be around to see my boys grow up!

makes sense.

I think that it would be cool to live to 100 and play with my 70 year
old son.

i


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I think some people have miss-interpreted what I was saying about my
children's diet. Most days they have boiled potatoes, rice or noodles and
vegetables. But trying to get them to eat chicken fish or any kind of meat
that is not in the shape of a nugget, dinosaur, aeroplane or finger os like
hitting my head agenst a brick wall. Also both of them are in the lowest
percentile on there growth chart an often eat verry little anyway. Because
of this I recon it is better to get them to eat something than starve. My
health visitor told me a story about a tot who would only eat fish fingers
(fish sticks) untill they were 6, but were advised to allow this rather than
let her starve.

I am enjoying posting on this group and appreciate any advice.

Jim
Scotland

"Jamberoo" wrote in message
...
Hi

I have had several suggestions that my current/previous diet is a tad
severe
and lacking in protein. It is as follows...

Almost every day

Breakfast
All Bran 56g 140 cals or porridge 180 cals
.24 pint semi skimmed milk 70 cals

Lunch

Diet Cuppa Soup 55 cals
Brown Bap 130 cals
1 tomato 20 cals
1 stalk celery 5 cals
4 slices cucumber

Dinner

120g boiled chicken without skin 130 cals every other day 180g boiled
white
fish 155 cals
200g microwave potato with skin 136 cals
150g vegetables (eg cauliflower, broccoli, cabbage, peas, green beans,
carrots) aprox 110 cals

200 cals for snacks i.e. stalk of celery, apple, orange, pickled beetroot,
raw mushrooms.


That's it. About 1000 cals a day. I go on an exercise bike every other
day
starting at 20 mins and the last time I built up to 1 and a half hours
every
other day. I also play the drums which is guite a good work out. The
last
time I also done quite a lot of weight training and sit-ups building up to
over 200 sit-ups every other day. I am unable to do weight training
anymore
due to a neck injury.

I have been on this for 2 weeks now and have lost 8 pounds.

Could somebody suggest a low fat way to perhaps increase my nutrition by
around 200 cals.

Thanks guys.

Jim.



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"Jayjay" wrote in message
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On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 17:47:31 +0000, clarrie wrote:

On 5 Mar 2004 17:28:44 GMT, Ignoramus15020
wrote:


chips are not food, by the way...

just to clarify, I think Jim's in the UK and he's talking about chips
as in french fried potatoes, not chips as in potato chips (or crisps
as we Brits call them)

C x

either way - JUNK. Whether its very thinly sliced potatoes fried in
grease until crispy, or thicker sliced potatoes fried in grease until
crispy on the outside and soft in the middle. You are still getting
a ton of excess saturated fat and calories that you don't need, not to
mention the empty carbs of the potato.

Wouldn't that depend on the oil you cooked them in? I don't eat them
because of the high calories but I okay with making them for my kid. I
usually use a combination of sweet potatoes and white potatoes..

j

"Jamberoo" wrote in message
...
I think some people have miss-interpreted what I was saying about my
children's diet. Most days they have boiled potatoes, rice or noodles and
vegetables. But trying to get them to eat chicken fish or any kind of
meat
that is not in the shape of a nugget, dinosaur, aeroplane or finger os
like
hitting my head agenst a brick wall. Also both of them are in the lowest
percentile on there growth chart an often eat verry little anyway.
Because
of this I recon it is better to get them to eat something than starve. My
health visitor told me a story about a tot who would only eat fish fingers
(fish sticks) untill they were 6, but were advised to allow this rather
than
let her starve.

I am enjoying posting on this group and appreciate any advice.

Jim
Scotland

What, pray tell, is a health visitor? We have home health nursing for
people who are acutely ill and homebound but I like the idea of a health
visitor. What do they do? Who do they see? How are they trained?

There are other sources of protien you might want to try for your kids.
Eggs and cheese come to mind. Also, milk (avoid the fully loaded and stick
with 1 or 1 percent). If they are getting abundant protien from other
sources, I wouldn't worry about even giving them nuggets at dinner. Beans
are a great source of protein but you have to live in Louisiana to know how
to make really good red beans and rice These suggestions would apply to
you as well although I would eat only low fat cheese. Also, your kids might
enjoy yogurt. Try different fruit flavored ones.

j

"Jamberoo" wrote in message
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Hi

I have had several suggestions that my current/previous diet is a tad
severe
and lacking in protein. It is as follows...

Almost every day

Breakfast
All Bran 56g 140 cals or porridge 180 cals
.24 pint semi skimmed milk 70 cals

Lunch

Diet Cuppa Soup 55 cals
Brown Bap 130 cals
1 tomato 20 cals
1 stalk celery 5 cals
4 slices cucumber

Dinner

120g boiled chicken without skin 130 cals every other day 180g boiled
white
fish 155 cals
200g microwave potato with skin 136 cals
150g vegetables (eg cauliflower, broccoli, cabbage, peas, green beans,
carrots) aprox 110 cals

200 cals for snacks i.e. stalk of celery, apple, orange, pickled
beetroot,
raw mushrooms.


That's it. About 1000 cals a day. I go on an exercise bike every other
day
starting at 20 mins and the last time I built up to 1 and a half hours
every
other day. I also play the drums which is guite a good work out. The
last
time I also done quite a lot of weight training and sit-ups building up
to
over 200 sit-ups every other day. I am unable to do weight training
anymore
due to a neck injury.

I have been on this for 2 weeks now and have lost 8 pounds.

Could somebody suggest a low fat way to perhaps increase my nutrition by
around 200 cals.

Thanks guys.

Jim.



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