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Slowly, ever so slowly, the worm turns.
On May 22, 5:33*pm, Dogman wrote:
On Tue, 22 May 2012 13:32:14 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: [...] You seem to subscribe to all the conspiracy theories. Nope, only to certain UNSCIENTIFIC theories. The ones I've studied from asshole to elbow. Well finally Dogman has said one thing that is true and we can all agree on. And that is that per his own words above, he subscribes to unscientific conspiracy theories that he's studied from AH to elbow. That's straw man #2376 by my count. You must be trying to use them up before they expire, eh? I study unscientific theories, not conspiracies. And you're bragging about this? Studying unscientific theories? You sure are one confused guy. Let's see...why would someone always need to misrepresent his opponent's position? Hmmmm. Haven't misrepresented a thing. It's all there for everyone to read in your own words. They should also know that you claim: HPV isn't a cause of cancer in women No virus can cause cancer. HIV isn't the cause of AIDS AIDS is caused by poor diet, drug abuse and not enough sleep. AIDS is virtually non-existent in the USA outside homosexual men ,IV drug abusers and hemophiliacs Anything else stupid we should add to your denial list? |
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On Tue, 22 May 2012 14:50:15 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote: [...] That's straw man #2376 by my count. You must be trying to use them up before they expire, eh? I study unscientific theories, not conspiracies. And you're bragging about this? Studying unscientific theories? You sure are one confused guy. I'm not the one who's confused, Trader, otherwise you wouldn't have to use so many straw men. I study lots of theories, scientific theories and not-so-scientific theories. In the course of this study, I deem then unscientific or scientific, primarily based on the theory's adherence to The Scientific Method. Still confused? Good! Let's see...why would someone always need to misrepresent his opponent's position? Hmmmm. Haven't misrepresented a thing. It's all there for everyone to read in your own words. These were my actual words: Nope, only to certain UNSCIENTIFIC theories. Then you intentionally changed my word "theories" to your word "conspiracies." What a devious little scumbag you are. -- Dogman "I have approximate answers and possible beliefs in different degrees of certainty about different things, but I'm not absolutely sure of anything" - Richard Feynman |
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On 22/05/2012 6:27 PM, Dogman wrote:
On Tue, 22 May 2012 17:09:14 -0300, James Warren wrote: [...] I bow down to you, oh rational one. Get off your knees, plebe, and go read Duesberg's book! If ever there was a motto you should embrace, it's: "Read more, write less." Ahem! You write much more than I do. Tha's because I've already done the reading part, unlike you. What, besides Duesberg, have you read? Pretty much everything there is. I even gave you a list of some of the books. Can you recommend something on the other side. No. You said I wasn't "important enough" to do that. You're dodging. So do your own work. With your vast scientific background, I'm sure you know how to do that, right? I do. But I want your recommendation. Maybe I would read them sequentially. You know when you'll read Duesberg's book? When one day, say, while applying for a new life insurance policy, you're asked to take a blood test, and then it comes back HIV+. Then you'll read the book. Not much chance of that. -- -jw |
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On 22/05/2012 6:27 PM, Dogman wrote:
On Tue, 22 May 2012 17:03:26 -0300, James Warren wrote: [...] There is none so righteous as the self-righteous. "We have no words for speaking of wisdom to the stupid. He who understands the wise is wise already." -G.C. Lichtenberg Thank you. Have you used up your annual allotment of smilies yet? You are to smilies what Bayer is to aspirin. Nah, I got a bucketfull. -- -jw |
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On Tue, 22 May 2012 20:59:21 -0300, James Warren
wrote: [...] Can you recommend something on the other side. No. You said I wasn't "important enough" to do that. You're dodging. No, I'm just ignoring your requests to do your work for you. So do your own work. With your vast scientific background, I'm sure you know how to do that, right? I do. But I want your recommendation. No, you don't. You've pretty much proven that here. Maybe I would read them sequentially. You know when you'll read Duesberg's book? When one day, say, while applying for a new life insurance policy, you're asked to take a blood test, and then it comes back HIV+. Then you'll read the book. Not much chance of that. You better hope so. -- Dogman "I have approximate answers and possible beliefs in different degrees of certainty about different things, but I'm not absolutely sure of anything" - Richard Feynman |
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On Tue, 22 May 2012 21:00:15 -0300, James Warren
wrote: [...] Have you used up your annual allotment of smilies yet? You are to smilies what Bayer is to aspirin. Nah, I got a bucketfull. Did you play with dolls when you were young? -- Dogman "I have approximate answers and possible beliefs in different degrees of certainty about different things, but I'm not absolutely sure of anything" - Richard Feynman |
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On 22/05/2012 9:08 PM, Dogman wrote:
On Tue, 22 May 2012 21:00:15 -0300, James wrote: [...] Have you used up your annual allotment of smilies yet? You are to smilies what Bayer is to aspirin. Nah, I got a bucketfull. Did you play with dolls when you were young? Does your mother wear army boots? -- -jw |
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On Tue, 22 May 2012 21:12:08 -0300, James Warren
wrote: [...] Did you play with dolls when you were young? Does your mother wear army boots? Probably. She was an Army nurse in WW II. -- Dogman "I have approximate answers and possible beliefs in different degrees of certainty about different things, but I'm not absolutely sure of anything" - Richard Feynman |
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On May 22, 8:07*pm, Dogman wrote:
On Tue, 22 May 2012 20:59:21 -0300, James Warren wrote: [...] Can you recommend something on the other side. No. You said I wasn't "important enough" to do that. You're dodging. No, I'm just ignoring your requests to do your work for you. So do your own work. With your vast scientific background, I'm sure you know how to do that, right? I do. But I want your recommendation. No, you don't. *You've pretty much proven that here. Maybe I would read them sequentially. You know when you'll read Duesberg's book? When one day, say, while applying for a new life insurance policy, you're asked to take a blood test, and then it comes back HIV+. *Then you'll read the book. Not much chance of that. You better hope so. Those that believe the AIDS denialist nonsense supported by the book, how do they fare? http://www.aidstruth.org/denialism/dead_denialists A small sample of the long, sad, list of the dead: Ken Anderlini Ken Anderlini was a co-moderator of the "AIDS Myth Exposed" message board on MSN. Anderlini died in April of 2007. Denialist David Crowe from the "Alberta Reappraising AIDS Society" wrote an announcement of his death, saying: "Over the past couple of years his health had declined rapidly with a strange neurological disease for which nobody could pinpoint the cause (except doctors who claimed it was HIV related, of course)." Sophie Brassard Sophie Brassard, a Canadian, was the HIV-positive mother of two HIV- positive, perinatally-infected sons. Citing the influence of HEAL, Alive and Well, Duesberg and Mullis, she refused to allow her children access to medical care when the became ill and fled the country with them. She consequently lost custody and parental rights. She died of AIDS on September 16, 2002, at age 37. Jerry Colinard Jerry Colinard, a board member of San Diego HEAL, died on July 4, 2009, at the age of 55, of AIDS. His webpage recalls that “Jerry supported the HIV community and was honored by a San Diego agency, ‘Being Alive,’ for his commitment. However by 2001 he had rejected traditional Western drug centered HIV medicine. He referred to himself as an ‘AIDS dissident’ thereafter.” Sylvie Cousseau Sylvie Cousseau contributed to a list of testimonials from people who tested HIV positive but embraced AIDS denial and rejected HIV treatment. This list of testimonials features on several different websites, including HEAL Toronto and the personal web pages of Rudolf Werner, Professor of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology at the University of Miami: http://molbio.med.miami.edu/HIV-Aids/stories.htm http://healtoronto.com/testimonials.html http://www.garynull.com/documents/Co...eapOfFaith.htm Sylvie Cousseau was the partner of Mark Griffiths. Sylvie died in 2001 at age 41. Boyd Ed Graves Boyd Graves was an HIV-positive lawyer who promoted the false view that HIV was developed by the US National Cancer Institute as part of a military programme to develop biological warfare agents for use against targeted communities. He found an NCI "flowchart" which he misinterpreted as demonstrating the existence of this programme, and initiated several unsuccessful lawsuits against the US government. While he believed that this manufactured HIV causes AIDS, he questioned the science of antiretroviral therapy and instead promoted as an "AIDS cure" a substance called "Tetracyl" or “Tetrasil” -- a silver compound with no known medical benefits and no evidence to support its use in HIV. According to an email circulated by his supporters he died in June 2009, apparently of AIDS, after several "Tetracyl" injections failed to reverse his illness. As far what we are aware he never took antiretrovirals. |
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On May 22, 6:19*pm, Dogman wrote:
On Tue, 22 May 2012 14:50:15 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: [...] That's straw man #2376 by my count. You must be trying to use them up before they expire, eh? I study unscientific theories, not conspiracies. And you're bragging about this? *Studying unscientific theories? *You sure are one confused guy. I'm not the one who's confused, Trader, otherwise you wouldn't have to use so many straw men. I study lots of theories, scientific theories and not-so-scientific theories. In the course of this study, I deem then unscientific or scientific, primarily based on the theory's adherence to The Scientific Method. Still confused? *Good! Let's see...why would someone always need to misrepresent his opponent's position? Hmmmm. Haven't misrepresented a thing. *It's all there for everyone to read in your own words. These were my actual words: Nope, only to certain UNSCIENTIFIC theories. Then you intentionally changed my word "theories" to your word "conspiracies." What a devious little scumbag you are. -- Dogman "I have approximate answers and possible beliefs in different degrees of certainty about different things, but I'm not absolutely sure of anything" - Richard Feynman What a liar you are. You've chosen to now take your words without the context of the preceeding line that you were responding to. One more time for everyone to see, here is the context: James: You seem to subscribe to all the conspiracy theories. Dogman: Nope, only to certain UNSCIENTIFIC theories. The ones I've studied from asshole to elbow. Clearly you said that you subscribe to certain unscientific theories. It couldn't be any clearer. And it explains a lot. |
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