Weigh-in this week

Ah, yes, Andes mints - she was an addict with those also - her
Grandmother would always serve those.


Actually, if you are interested, here were just some of the
temptations over the New Years weekend:

http://fk8660.home.att.net/DSCN3069.JPG

And then a Room with a View:

http://fk8660.home.att.net/DSCN3090.JPG

And then a panorama where I was skiing:

http://fk8660.home.att.net/CommunityTrail.jpg

OH, and I am sorry - but these a photos and maybe DH can explain them.

CASE is important on AT&T sites for url's.



On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 04:40:41 -0600, "Miss Violette"
wrote:

it was interesting to me, self limiting is important in snack foods. andes
mints for example, in a nice box but individually wrapped, Lee
Fred wrote in message
.. .
I knew it! (G)

Okay, a number of years ago, a local shop (macy's or nordstrom's-like)
called Fredricks and Nelsons (Seattle, like Nordstroms) had a candy
called Frangos. It was packaged in an octogon shaped box. Mint
probably was the original flavor. Other flavors were developed. Kind
of a small rectangular truffle. An inner chocolate with flavor dipped
in chocolate. Some turkey managed to get control and sent them into
bankruptcy. They ceased to exist. Another local, Bon Marche, took
over the very popular Frango line, purchasing it in the bankruptcy
sale, I think. The Bon now is Bon-Macy's.

So they still produce the item but it was made for them by a local
chocolateer (spelling?). Recently, they changed manufacturers. The
local guy decided to create a similar confection. A legal bruhaha.
He managed to develop something very similar but packaging was not
permitted in the octogon box. So they just made a larger plain
plastic jar and it is distributed by Costco. Doing well from what I
understand.

Therein lies a long short story.

But it does have an axiom. Just this weekend, when I was discussing
portion control with a Frango freak (g), I discussed Skinny Cows and
the individual and therefore, portion control angle, of one item
instead of a tub of ice cream. Then I noted that the old octogon
Frango box held much fewer candies then the Costco JAR she had already
consumed. There was a tendency to hold back in the octogon so that
there would be some left over for another day/week. The larger jar,
huge, actually, does not cause that same tendency or hesitancy.
There's plenty more. Therefore, more candies per sitting and not as
self-limiting.

Aren't you glad you asked?

(GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG)

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 03:39:15 GMT, "Julie"
wrote:

OK, I'll bite - what's Frango?
Julie

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
I hid the Costco container of what I will call Frango chocolates.
Good luck

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 13:03:01 GMT, "Julie"
wrote:

Hi Fellow Losers,
Well over the holidays I managed to reclaim 5lbs, and every ounce is
still
clinging to me! Now that the jumbo jar of cashews from Costco is
finally
empty, this next week holds a lot of promise (and probably a lot of
low-point soup).
Stay happy and healthy.
Julie

Are these Frangos the same as the original Chicago based Frango Mints? At one
time they were only found for sale at Marshall Fields, and highly sought after.
Now Target sells them also (Target is a division of Fields), and the Chicago
manufacturing plant has been shut down.

Joyce

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 22:41:45 -0800, Fred wrote:

I knew it! (G)

Okay, a number of years ago, a local shop (macy's or nordstrom's-like)
called Fredricks and Nelsons (Seattle, like Nordstroms) had a candy
called Frangos. It was packaged in an octogon shaped box. Mint
probably was the original flavor. Other flavors were developed. Kind
of a small rectangular truffle. An inner chocolate with flavor dipped
in chocolate. Some turkey managed to get control and sent them into
bankruptcy. They ceased to exist. Another local, Bon Marche, took
over the very popular Frango line, purchasing it in the bankruptcy
sale, I think. The Bon now is Bon-Macy's.

So they still produce the item but it was made for them by a local
chocolateer (spelling?). Recently, they changed manufacturers. The
local guy decided to create a similar confection. A legal bruhaha.
He managed to develop something very similar but packaging was not
permitted in the octogon box. So they just made a larger plain
plastic jar and it is distributed by Costco. Doing well from what I
understand.

Therein lies a long short story.

But it does have an axiom. Just this weekend, when I was discussing
portion control with a Frango freak (g), I discussed Skinny Cows and
the individual and therefore, portion control angle, of one item
instead of a tub of ice cream. Then I noted that the old octogon
Frango box held much fewer candies then the Costco JAR she had already
consumed. There was a tendency to hold back in the octogon so that
there would be some left over for another day/week. The larger jar,
huge, actually, does not cause that same tendency or hesitancy.
There's plenty more. Therefore, more candies per sitting and not as
self-limiting.

Aren't you glad you asked?

(GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG)

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 03:39:15 GMT, "Julie"
wrote:

OK, I'll bite - what's Frango?
Julie

"Fred" wrote in message
. ..
I hid the Costco container of what I will call Frango chocolates.
Good luck

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 13:03:01 GMT, "Julie"
wrote:

Hi Fellow Losers,
Well over the holidays I managed to reclaim 5lbs, and every ounce is
still
clinging to me! Now that the jumbo jar of cashews from Costco is finally
empty, this next week holds a lot of promise (and probably a lot of
low-point soup).
Stay happy and healthy.
Julie

Hey! I had the exact same plastic storage containers ... 'cept mine were filled
with fudge and toffee. G Down to 5 pieces of fudge left. sigh Once again,
gorgeous photos!

Joyce

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 08:48:57 -0800, Fred wrote:

Ah, yes, Andes mints - she was an addict with those also - her
Grandmother would always serve those.


Actually, if you are interested, here were just some of the
temptations over the New Years weekend:

http://fk8660.home.att.net/DSCN3069.JPG

And then a Room with a View:

http://fk8660.home.att.net/DSCN3090.JPG

And then a panorama where I was skiing:

http://fk8660.home.att.net/CommunityTrail.jpg

OH, and I am sorry - but these a photos and maybe DH can explain them.

CASE is important on AT&T sites for url's.



On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 04:40:41 -0600, "Miss Violette"
wrote:

it was interesting to me, self limiting is important in snack foods. andes
mints for example, in a nice box but individually wrapped, Lee
Fred wrote in message
. ..
I knew it! (G)

Okay, a number of years ago, a local shop (macy's or nordstrom's-like)
called Fredricks and Nelsons (Seattle, like Nordstroms) had a candy
called Frangos. It was packaged in an octogon shaped box. Mint
probably was the original flavor. Other flavors were developed. Kind
of a small rectangular truffle. An inner chocolate with flavor dipped
in chocolate. Some turkey managed to get control and sent them into
bankruptcy. They ceased to exist. Another local, Bon Marche, took
over the very popular Frango line, purchasing it in the bankruptcy
sale, I think. The Bon now is Bon-Macy's.

So they still produce the item but it was made for them by a local
chocolateer (spelling?). Recently, they changed manufacturers. The
local guy decided to create a similar confection. A legal bruhaha.
He managed to develop something very similar but packaging was not
permitted in the octogon box. So they just made a larger plain
plastic jar and it is distributed by Costco. Doing well from what I
understand.

Therein lies a long short story.

But it does have an axiom. Just this weekend, when I was discussing
portion control with a Frango freak (g), I discussed Skinny Cows and
the individual and therefore, portion control angle, of one item
instead of a tub of ice cream. Then I noted that the old octogon
Frango box held much fewer candies then the Costco JAR she had already
consumed. There was a tendency to hold back in the octogon so that
there would be some left over for another day/week. The larger jar,
huge, actually, does not cause that same tendency or hesitancy.
There's plenty more. Therefore, more candies per sitting and not as
self-limiting.

Aren't you glad you asked?

(GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG)

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 03:39:15 GMT, "Julie"
wrote:

OK, I'll bite - what's Frango?
Julie

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
I hid the Costco container of what I will call Frango chocolates.
Good luck

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 13:03:01 GMT, "Julie"
wrote:

Hi Fellow Losers,
Well over the holidays I managed to reclaim 5lbs, and every ounce is
still
clinging to me! Now that the jumbo jar of cashews from Costco is
finally
empty, this next week holds a lot of promise (and probably a lot of
low-point soup).
Stay happy and healthy.
Julie

Oh, you're on top of things today. I like what you keyed in on -
storage containers (G)

The fourth style of cookie was in the fridge!!!

I think I'm regaining the NON-holiday attitude - finally.

But see the article Prairie posted on chubby men due to aging! (sigh)

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 11:27:34 -0600, Joyce wrote:

Hey! I had the exact same plastic storage containers ... 'cept mine were filled
with fudge and toffee. G Down to 5 pieces of fudge left. sigh Once again,
gorgeous photos!

Joyce

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 08:48:57 -0800, Fred wrote:

Ah, yes, Andes mints - she was an addict with those also - her
Grandmother would always serve those.


Actually, if you are interested, here were just some of the
temptations over the New Years weekend:

http://fk8660.home.att.net/DSCN3069.JPG

And then a Room with a View:

http://fk8660.home.att.net/DSCN3090.JPG

And then a panorama where I was skiing:

http://fk8660.home.att.net/CommunityTrail.jpg

OH, and I am sorry - but these a photos and maybe DH can explain them.

CASE is important on AT&T sites for url's.



On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 04:40:41 -0600, "Miss Violette"
wrote:

it was interesting to me, self limiting is important in snack foods. andes
mints for example, in a nice box but individually wrapped, Lee
Fred wrote in message
...
I knew it! (G)

Okay, a number of years ago, a local shop (macy's or nordstrom's-like)
called Fredricks and Nelsons (Seattle, like Nordstroms) had a candy
called Frangos. It was packaged in an octogon shaped box. Mint
probably was the original flavor. Other flavors were developed. Kind
of a small rectangular truffle. An inner chocolate with flavor dipped
in chocolate. Some turkey managed to get control and sent them into
bankruptcy. They ceased to exist. Another local, Bon Marche, took
over the very popular Frango line, purchasing it in the bankruptcy
sale, I think. The Bon now is Bon-Macy's.

So they still produce the item but it was made for them by a local
chocolateer (spelling?). Recently, they changed manufacturers. The
local guy decided to create a similar confection. A legal bruhaha.
He managed to develop something very similar but packaging was not
permitted in the octogon box. So they just made a larger plain
plastic jar and it is distributed by Costco. Doing well from what I
understand.

Therein lies a long short story.

But it does have an axiom. Just this weekend, when I was discussing
portion control with a Frango freak (g), I discussed Skinny Cows and
the individual and therefore, portion control angle, of one item
instead of a tub of ice cream. Then I noted that the old octogon
Frango box held much fewer candies then the Costco JAR she had already
consumed. There was a tendency to hold back in the octogon so that
there would be some left over for another day/week. The larger jar,
huge, actually, does not cause that same tendency or hesitancy.
There's plenty more. Therefore, more candies per sitting and not as
self-limiting.

Aren't you glad you asked?

(GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG)

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 03:39:15 GMT, "Julie"
wrote:

OK, I'll bite - what's Frango?
Julie

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
I hid the Costco container of what I will call Frango chocolates.
Good luck

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 13:03:01 GMT, "Julie"
wrote:

Hi Fellow Losers,
Well over the holidays I managed to reclaim 5lbs, and every ounce is
still
clinging to me! Now that the jumbo jar of cashews from Costco is
finally
empty, this next week holds a lot of promise (and probably a lot of
low-point soup).
Stay happy and healthy.
Julie

YUP - you got it. Marshall Fields had some connection either with The
Bon or or Fredricks. I can't remember. I think that they were also
originally a holiday item and then expanded to yearly available.

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 11:22:50 -0600, Joyce wrote:

Are these Frangos the same as the original Chicago based Frango Mints? At one
time they were only found for sale at Marshall Fields, and highly sought after.
Now Target sells them also (Target is a division of Fields), and the Chicago
manufacturing plant has been shut down.

Joyce

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 22:41:45 -0800, Fred wrote:

I knew it! (G)

Okay, a number of years ago, a local shop (macy's or nordstrom's-like)
called Fredricks and Nelsons (Seattle, like Nordstroms) had a candy
called Frangos. It was packaged in an octogon shaped box. Mint
probably was the original flavor. Other flavors were developed. Kind
of a small rectangular truffle. An inner chocolate with flavor dipped
in chocolate. Some turkey managed to get control and sent them into
bankruptcy. They ceased to exist. Another local, Bon Marche, took
over the very popular Frango line, purchasing it in the bankruptcy
sale, I think. The Bon now is Bon-Macy's.

So they still produce the item but it was made for them by a local
chocolateer (spelling?). Recently, they changed manufacturers. The
local guy decided to create a similar confection. A legal bruhaha.
He managed to develop something very similar but packaging was not
permitted in the octogon box. So they just made a larger plain
plastic jar and it is distributed by Costco. Doing well from what I
understand.

Therein lies a long short story.

But it does have an axiom. Just this weekend, when I was discussing
portion control with a Frango freak (g), I discussed Skinny Cows and
the individual and therefore, portion control angle, of one item
instead of a tub of ice cream. Then I noted that the old octogon
Frango box held much fewer candies then the Costco JAR she had already
consumed. There was a tendency to hold back in the octogon so that
there would be some left over for another day/week. The larger jar,
huge, actually, does not cause that same tendency or hesitancy.
There's plenty more. Therefore, more candies per sitting and not as
self-limiting.

Aren't you glad you asked?

(GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG)

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 03:39:15 GMT, "Julie"
wrote:

OK, I'll bite - what's Frango?
Julie

"Fred" wrote in message
...
I hid the Costco container of what I will call Frango chocolates.
Good luck

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 13:03:01 GMT, "Julie"
wrote:

Hi Fellow Losers,
Well over the holidays I managed to reclaim 5lbs, and every ounce is
still
clinging to me! Now that the jumbo jar of cashews from Costco is finally
empty, this next week holds a lot of promise (and probably a lot of
low-point soup).
Stay happy and healthy.
Julie

Probably a good thing I didn't mention the pfaltzgraff dishes or the tupperware
measuring scoop, huh? It is odd though that I focused on the storage container
BEFORE the cookies ... although those on the top rack look interesting. Are they
some sort of meringue? And what kind were you hiding from us?

I think I'm also back into the non-holiday attitude, finally. I've had more than
my share of fruits, salads and veggies this week, and they sure were good.
Chicken twice for dinner, fish, and had a lean pork tenderloin thrown in somewhere
along the line.

I'll have to look for the article PR posted, think I missed it along the line. My
mind has been shot, but I'm feeling better now.

Joyce

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 09:43:25 -0800, Fred wrote:

Oh, you're on top of things today. I like what you keyed in on -
storage containers (G)

The fourth style of cookie was in the fridge!!!

I think I'm regaining the NON-holiday attitude - finally.

But see the article Prairie posted on chubby men due to aging! (sigh)

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 11:27:34 -0600, Joyce wrote:

Hey! I had the exact same plastic storage containers ... 'cept mine were filled
with fudge and toffee. G Down to 5 pieces of fudge left. sigh Once again,
gorgeous photos!

Joyce

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 08:48:57 -0800, Fred wrote:

Ah, yes, Andes mints - she was an addict with those also - her
Grandmother would always serve those.


Actually, if you are interested, here were just some of the
temptations over the New Years weekend:

http://fk8660.home.att.net/DSCN3069.JPG

And then a Room with a View:

http://fk8660.home.att.net/DSCN3090.JPG

And then a panorama where I was skiing:

http://fk8660.home.att.net/CommunityTrail.jpg

OH, and I am sorry - but these a photos and maybe DH can explain them.

CASE is important on AT&T sites for url's.



On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 04:40:41 -0600, "Miss Violette"
wrote:

it was interesting to me, self limiting is important in snack foods. andes
mints for example, in a nice box but individually wrapped, Lee
Fred wrote in message
m...
I knew it! (G)

Okay, a number of years ago, a local shop (macy's or nordstrom's-like)
called Fredricks and Nelsons (Seattle, like Nordstroms) had a candy
called Frangos. It was packaged in an octogon shaped box. Mint
probably was the original flavor. Other flavors were developed. Kind
of a small rectangular truffle. An inner chocolate with flavor dipped
in chocolate. Some turkey managed to get control and sent them into
bankruptcy. They ceased to exist. Another local, Bon Marche, took
over the very popular Frango line, purchasing it in the bankruptcy
sale, I think. The Bon now is Bon-Macy's.

So they still produce the item but it was made for them by a local
chocolateer (spelling?). Recently, they changed manufacturers. The
local guy decided to create a similar confection. A legal bruhaha.
He managed to develop something very similar but packaging was not
permitted in the octogon box. So they just made a larger plain
plastic jar and it is distributed by Costco. Doing well from what I
understand.

Therein lies a long short story.

But it does have an axiom. Just this weekend, when I was discussing
portion control with a Frango freak (g), I discussed Skinny Cows and
the individual and therefore, portion control angle, of one item
instead of a tub of ice cream. Then I noted that the old octogon
Frango box held much fewer candies then the Costco JAR she had already
consumed. There was a tendency to hold back in the octogon so that
there would be some left over for another day/week. The larger jar,
huge, actually, does not cause that same tendency or hesitancy.
There's plenty more. Therefore, more candies per sitting and not as
self-limiting.

Aren't you glad you asked?

(GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG)

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 03:39:15 GMT, "Julie"
wrote:

OK, I'll bite - what's Frango?
Julie

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
I hid the Costco container of what I will call Frango chocolates.
Good luck

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 13:03:01 GMT, "Julie"
wrote:

Hi Fellow Losers,
Well over the holidays I managed to reclaim 5lbs, and every ounce is
still
clinging to me! Now that the jumbo jar of cashews from Costco is
finally
empty, this next week holds a lot of promise (and probably a lot of
low-point soup).
Stay happy and healthy.
Julie

Glad something in the memory bank is working today. G I do remember them being
a holiday item, many years ago. When my sister first moved to the city she would
buy everyone Frango's. Then they became a year round item, then started expanding
flavors if I recall correctly. It was somewhere along this line that (to me
anyway) they stopped being *special*. Probably a good thing, or I would just have
had one more thing to splurge on.

I don't know where they are being produced now, but it is no longer Chicago. And
I just heard today that Fanny May is also closing it's doors. Hub told me that
when the stores empty their shelves, that is it. I told him there was no way I
was going to bring anymore chocolate into this house, at this time! g

Joyce

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 09:45:00 -0800, Fred wrote:

YUP - you got it. Marshall Fields had some connection either with The
Bon or or Fredricks. I can't remember. I think that they were also
originally a holiday item and then expanded to yearly available.

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 11:22:50 -0600, Joyce wrote:

Are these Frangos the same as the original Chicago based Frango Mints? At one
time they were only found for sale at Marshall Fields, and highly sought after.
Now Target sells them also (Target is a division of Fields), and the Chicago
manufacturing plant has been shut down.

Joyce

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 22:41:45 -0800, Fred wrote:

I knew it! (G)

Okay, a number of years ago, a local shop (macy's or nordstrom's-like)
called Fredricks and Nelsons (Seattle, like Nordstroms) had a candy
called Frangos. It was packaged in an octogon shaped box. Mint
probably was the original flavor. Other flavors were developed. Kind
of a small rectangular truffle. An inner chocolate with flavor dipped
in chocolate. Some turkey managed to get control and sent them into
bankruptcy. They ceased to exist. Another local, Bon Marche, took
over the very popular Frango line, purchasing it in the bankruptcy
sale, I think. The Bon now is Bon-Macy's.

So they still produce the item but it was made for them by a local
chocolateer (spelling?). Recently, they changed manufacturers. The
local guy decided to create a similar confection. A legal bruhaha.
He managed to develop something very similar but packaging was not
permitted in the octogon box. So they just made a larger plain
plastic jar and it is distributed by Costco. Doing well from what I
understand.

Therein lies a long short story.

But it does have an axiom. Just this weekend, when I was discussing
portion control with a Frango freak (g), I discussed Skinny Cows and
the individual and therefore, portion control angle, of one item
instead of a tub of ice cream. Then I noted that the old octogon
Frango box held much fewer candies then the Costco JAR she had already
consumed. There was a tendency to hold back in the octogon so that
there would be some left over for another day/week. The larger jar,
huge, actually, does not cause that same tendency or hesitancy.
There's plenty more. Therefore, more candies per sitting and not as
self-limiting.

Aren't you glad you asked?

(GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG)

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 03:39:15 GMT, "Julie"
wrote:

OK, I'll bite - what's Frango?
Julie

"Fred" wrote in message
m...
I hid the Costco container of what I will call Frango chocolates.
Good luck

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 13:03:01 GMT, "Julie"
wrote:

Hi Fellow Losers,
Well over the holidays I managed to reclaim 5lbs, and every ounce is
still
clinging to me! Now that the jumbo jar of cashews from Costco is finally
empty, this next week holds a lot of promise (and probably a lot of
low-point soup).
Stay happy and healthy.
Julie

Yes, the top ones were made especially for me since she knows I
indulge in Ms Meringues! But there were not exactly perfect - she did
add bran flakes but also pecans. They were very good.

The others were toffee chips. I'm missing the third ones right now
but the fourth variety were a Nanimo type thingie. Brownie bottom,
sugar, butter, cream filling and then a chocolate glaze top! The
fourth were a chocolate cookie with raisins I think. Then there was
a terrific 5th cookie she had saved in the freezer from another bake -
it was terrific even though it was not chocolate - it was a cookie but
made from a yeast raised dough - flakey, terrific. But I did ski
something like 25-30 miles with some good elevation. The non-meringue
were actually not made for me but a "girls'" potluck that I
fortunately did not attend (G)

Sounds like we need time to wind down holidays but know the program
and the skills.


On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 12:38:54 -0600, Joyce wrote:

Probably a good thing I didn't mention the pfaltzgraff dishes or the tupperware
measuring scoop, huh? It is odd though that I focused on the storage container
BEFORE the cookies ... although those on the top rack look interesting. Are they
some sort of meringue? And what kind were you hiding from us?

I think I'm also back into the non-holiday attitude, finally. I've had more than
my share of fruits, salads and veggies this week, and they sure were good.
Chicken twice for dinner, fish, and had a lean pork tenderloin thrown in somewhere
along the line.

I'll have to look for the article PR posted, think I missed it along the line. My
mind has been shot, but I'm feeling better now.

Joyce

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 09:43:25 -0800, Fred wrote:

Oh, you're on top of things today. I like what you keyed in on -
storage containers (G)

The fourth style of cookie was in the fridge!!!

I think I'm regaining the NON-holiday attitude - finally.

But see the article Prairie posted on chubby men due to aging! (sigh)

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 11:27:34 -0600, Joyce wrote:

Hey! I had the exact same plastic storage containers ... 'cept mine were filled
with fudge and toffee. G Down to 5 pieces of fudge left. sigh Once again,
gorgeous photos!

Joyce

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 08:48:57 -0800, Fred wrote:

Ah, yes, Andes mints - she was an addict with those also - her
Grandmother would always serve those.


Actually, if you are interested, here were just some of the
temptations over the New Years weekend:

http://fk8660.home.att.net/DSCN3069.JPG

And then a Room with a View:

http://fk8660.home.att.net/DSCN3090.JPG

And then a panorama where I was skiing:

http://fk8660.home.att.net/CommunityTrail.jpg

OH, and I am sorry - but these a photos and maybe DH can explain them.

CASE is important on AT&T sites for url's.



On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 04:40:41 -0600, "Miss Violette"
wrote:

it was interesting to me, self limiting is important in snack foods. andes
mints for example, in a nice box but individually wrapped, Lee
Fred wrote in message
om...
I knew it! (G)

Okay, a number of years ago, a local shop (macy's or nordstrom's-like)
called Fredricks and Nelsons (Seattle, like Nordstroms) had a candy
called Frangos. It was packaged in an octogon shaped box. Mint
probably was the original flavor. Other flavors were developed. Kind
of a small rectangular truffle. An inner chocolate with flavor dipped
in chocolate. Some turkey managed to get control and sent them into
bankruptcy. They ceased to exist. Another local, Bon Marche, took
over the very popular Frango line, purchasing it in the bankruptcy
sale, I think. The Bon now is Bon-Macy's.

So they still produce the item but it was made for them by a local
chocolateer (spelling?). Recently, they changed manufacturers. The
local guy decided to create a similar confection. A legal bruhaha.
He managed to develop something very similar but packaging was not
permitted in the octogon box. So they just made a larger plain
plastic jar and it is distributed by Costco. Doing well from what I
understand.

Therein lies a long short story.

But it does have an axiom. Just this weekend, when I was discussing
portion control with a Frango freak (g), I discussed Skinny Cows and
the individual and therefore, portion control angle, of one item
instead of a tub of ice cream. Then I noted that the old octogon
Frango box held much fewer candies then the Costco JAR she had already
consumed. There was a tendency to hold back in the octogon so that
there would be some left over for another day/week. The larger jar,
huge, actually, does not cause that same tendency or hesitancy.
There's plenty more. Therefore, more candies per sitting and not as
self-limiting.

Aren't you glad you asked?

(GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG)

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 03:39:15 GMT, "Julie"
wrote:

OK, I'll bite - what's Frango?
Julie

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
I hid the Costco container of what I will call Frango chocolates.
Good luck

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 13:03:01 GMT, "Julie"
wrote:

Hi Fellow Losers,
Well over the holidays I managed to reclaim 5lbs, and every ounce is
still
clinging to me! Now that the jumbo jar of cashews from Costco is
finally
empty, this next week holds a lot of promise (and probably a lot of
low-point soup).
Stay happy and healthy.
Julie

A CHOCOLATE GOING OUT OF BUSINESS SALE????????????? (G)

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 12:42:16 -0600, Joyce wrote:

Glad something in the memory bank is working today. G I do remember them being
a holiday item, many years ago. When my sister first moved to the city she would
buy everyone Frango's. Then they became a year round item, then started expanding
flavors if I recall correctly. It was somewhere along this line that (to me
anyway) they stopped being *special*. Probably a good thing, or I would just have
had one more thing to splurge on.

I don't know where they are being produced now, but it is no longer Chicago. And
I just heard today that Fanny May is also closing it's doors. Hub told me that
when the stores empty their shelves, that is it. I told him there was no way I
was going to bring anymore chocolate into this house, at this time! g

Joyce

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 09:45:00 -0800, Fred wrote:

YUP - you got it. Marshall Fields had some connection either with The
Bon or or Fredricks. I can't remember. I think that they were also
originally a holiday item and then expanded to yearly available.

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 11:22:50 -0600, Joyce wrote:

Are these Frangos the same as the original Chicago based Frango Mints? At one
time they were only found for sale at Marshall Fields, and highly sought after.
Now Target sells them also (Target is a division of Fields), and the Chicago
manufacturing plant has been shut down.

Joyce

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 22:41:45 -0800, Fred wrote:

I knew it! (G)

Okay, a number of years ago, a local shop (macy's or nordstrom's-like)
called Fredricks and Nelsons (Seattle, like Nordstroms) had a candy
called Frangos. It was packaged in an octogon shaped box. Mint
probably was the original flavor. Other flavors were developed. Kind
of a small rectangular truffle. An inner chocolate with flavor dipped
in chocolate. Some turkey managed to get control and sent them into
bankruptcy. They ceased to exist. Another local, Bon Marche, took
over the very popular Frango line, purchasing it in the bankruptcy
sale, I think. The Bon now is Bon-Macy's.

So they still produce the item but it was made for them by a local
chocolateer (spelling?). Recently, they changed manufacturers. The
local guy decided to create a similar confection. A legal bruhaha.
He managed to develop something very similar but packaging was not
permitted in the octogon box. So they just made a larger plain
plastic jar and it is distributed by Costco. Doing well from what I
understand.

Therein lies a long short story.

But it does have an axiom. Just this weekend, when I was discussing
portion control with a Frango freak (g), I discussed Skinny Cows and
the individual and therefore, portion control angle, of one item
instead of a tub of ice cream. Then I noted that the old octogon
Frango box held much fewer candies then the Costco JAR she had already
consumed. There was a tendency to hold back in the octogon so that
there would be some left over for another day/week. The larger jar,
huge, actually, does not cause that same tendency or hesitancy.
There's plenty more. Therefore, more candies per sitting and not as
self-limiting.

Aren't you glad you asked?

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On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 03:39:15 GMT, "Julie"
wrote:

OK, I'll bite - what's Frango?
Julie

"Fred" wrote in message
om...
I hid the Costco container of what I will call Frango chocolates.
Good luck

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 13:03:01 GMT, "Julie"
wrote:

Hi Fellow Losers,
Well over the holidays I managed to reclaim 5lbs, and every ounce is
still
clinging to me! Now that the jumbo jar of cashews from Costco is finally
empty, this next week holds a lot of promise (and probably a lot of
low-point soup).
Stay happy and healthy.
Julie

thanks for sharing, will have him look at them he is interested in
photography so will probably enjoy them, Lee
Fred wrote in message
...
Ah, yes, Andes mints - she was an addict with those also - her
Grandmother would always serve those.


Actually, if you are interested, here were just some of the
temptations over the New Years weekend:

http://fk8660.home.att.net/DSCN3069.JPG

And then a Room with a View:

http://fk8660.home.att.net/DSCN3090.JPG

And then a panorama where I was skiing:

http://fk8660.home.att.net/CommunityTrail.jpg

OH, and I am sorry - but these a photos and maybe DH can explain them.

CASE is important on AT&T sites for url's.



On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 04:40:41 -0600, "Miss Violette"
wrote:

it was interesting to me, self limiting is important in snack foods.
andes
mints for example, in a nice box but individually wrapped, Lee
Fred wrote in message
.. .
I knew it! (G)

Okay, a number of years ago, a local shop (macy's or nordstrom's-like)
called Fredricks and Nelsons (Seattle, like Nordstroms) had a candy
called Frangos. It was packaged in an octogon shaped box. Mint
probably was the original flavor. Other flavors were developed. Kind
of a small rectangular truffle. An inner chocolate with flavor dipped
in chocolate. Some turkey managed to get control and sent them into
bankruptcy. They ceased to exist. Another local, Bon Marche, took
over the very popular Frango line, purchasing it in the bankruptcy
sale, I think. The Bon now is Bon-Macy's.

So they still produce the item but it was made for them by a local
chocolateer (spelling?). Recently, they changed manufacturers. The
local guy decided to create a similar confection. A legal bruhaha.
He managed to develop something very similar but packaging was not
permitted in the octogon box. So they just made a larger plain
plastic jar and it is distributed by Costco. Doing well from what I
understand.

Therein lies a long short story.

But it does have an axiom. Just this weekend, when I was discussing
portion control with a Frango freak (g), I discussed Skinny Cows and
the individual and therefore, portion control angle, of one item
instead of a tub of ice cream. Then I noted that the old octogon
Frango box held much fewer candies then the Costco JAR she had already
consumed. There was a tendency to hold back in the octogon so that
there would be some left over for another day/week. The larger jar,
huge, actually, does not cause that same tendency or hesitancy.
There's plenty more. Therefore, more candies per sitting and not as
self-limiting.

Aren't you glad you asked?

(GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG)

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 03:39:15 GMT, "Julie"
wrote:

OK, I'll bite - what's Frango?
Julie

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
I hid the Costco container of what I will call Frango chocolates.
Good luck

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 13:03:01 GMT, "Julie"
wrote:

Hi Fellow Losers,
Well over the holidays I managed to reclaim 5lbs, and every ounce
is
still
clinging to me! Now that the jumbo jar of cashews from Costco is
finally
empty, this next week holds a lot of promise (and probably a lot of
low-point soup).
Stay happy and healthy.
Julie