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What is the nicest thing people have said about your losing weight ?
I'm a believer in the power of praise and a disbeliever in criticism
(in changing behavior). I think even minor negative comments can be toxic and have a negative impact on people (even if well intentioned) and I believe that positive comments can have a heck of a positive impact -- helping us reach goals we never thought possible. What is the best thing that you can remember people saying about your losing? And what do you want to hear more of? For me it's my wife's saying, "You're doing great!" as I continue to lose weight, continue to follow my diet and exercise program. What do you wish your friends, significant other, your physician, your pets (if they could talk human), etc., would say to you? I'm interested in putting together a list of such compliments and posting them here on ASD and maybe people can download them and post them in their kitchens, etc., to remind themselves of the progress they're making, to cue others to compliment them for their efforts, etc. No one is going to say to me: "You look MAH-VELOUS!" but a positive reaction every now and then from those around me goes a long way. Thanks for your time on this! Yours, Caleb |
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"Caleb" wrote in message ups.com... I'm a believer in the power of praise and a disbeliever in criticism (in changing behavior). I think even minor negative comments can be toxic and have a negative impact on people (even if well intentioned) and I believe that positive comments can have a heck of a positive impact -- helping us reach goals we never thought possible. What is the best thing that you can remember people saying about your losing? And what do you want to hear more of? For me it's my wife's saying, "You're doing great!" as I continue to lose weight, continue to follow my diet and exercise program. What do you wish your friends, significant other, your physician, your pets (if they could talk human), etc., would say to you? I'm interested in putting together a list of such compliments and posting them here on ASD and maybe people can download them and post them in their kitchens, etc., to remind themselves of the progress they're making, to cue others to compliment them for their efforts, etc. No one is going to say to me: "You look MAH-VELOUS!" but a positive reaction every now and then from those around me goes a long way. Thanks for your time on this! Yours, Caleb JMO, I'd rather people just leave the whole topic alone. When anyone mentions my weight in what most would consider a positive way, it just reminds me that more than likely they were thinking or even expressing negative thoughts behind my back. My whole being and personal worth doesn't depend on how much I weigh. I diet for my health, not to receive praise from other people. Frankly, I don't think we should comment about anybody's weight. JMO, but I think it is rude to comment one way or the other. I'm sure other people have opinions much different than mine. I just hate it when people start with the old, "how did you do it" and expect to hear about some miracle cure. I will encourage and support the efforts of anyone who is trying to make changes towards living a healthier life. I won't stoop to heaping complements on someone because their rear is now a few inches smaller. Too much of our self-worth seems to center around weight and it is taking a psychological toll on too many people including children. Dr. Phil had a program yesterday where children as young as eight were talking about killing themselves because they were too fat, too ugly, too thin, too whatever. Too many people turn dropping weight into a vanity issue rather than a health issue. None of these children were saying they wanted to die because they weren't healthy. They just felt they didn't meet society's standard of beauty. JMO, but we should do all we can to discourage dieting to meet some artificial standard of beauty and stress the importance of maintaining a healthy lifestyle. I would do something more positive for a dieter by actively getting involved in supporting their efforts rather than just handing out some compliment. I'd take them out for a healthy lunch or dinner and decide together what we were ordering, bring them a snack that fits into their diet plan instead of offering junk, or invite them to join me while I went for a walk. To me active support is much more helpful than mere compliments or praise. I'm not trying to be negative, just saying some of us appreciate active support rather than mere words of praise. As always, my best advice is do whatever works for you. After all your diet is about Y-O-U! |
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Thanks for your views -- certainly seem valid to me.
I guess rather than focus on "beauty" I would emphasize positive changes that people are making over time in their lives. Kind of related to someone telling me that they walk every day, or jog or do curves or whatever on a regular basis. Or people helping with Tsunami relief or doing other positive things that require some effort. I think an "attaboy!" or "attagirl!" can sure be useful to those slogging about in the trenches (which sometimes seem endless and inescapable). And I sure like your emphasis on joining with others to help everyone achieve their goals! Terrific insight, I think. Yours, Caleb |
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In article , Janie
wrote: To me active support is much more helpful than mere compliments or praise. I'm not trying to be negative, just saying some of us appreciate active support rather than mere words of praise. After my big weight loss of 86 pounds, I lived for compliments. Now, five years later, I love that weight is not an issue, I only discuss it here. When I hear friends talking about diet I don't jump in with any "superior" knowlege ( unless its about gastric illness) and no one I know considers that I have or ever had a weight problem. Even those I knew me before 2000 have forgotten how obese I was. Yet I need feedback and support here when undertaking something like my current "Dr. Phil Behavior Mod" effort. -- Diva ***** Discipline is Liberation |
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On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 14:50:16 -0400, Janie wrote:
from other people. Frankly, I don't think we should comment about anybody's weight. JMO, but I think it is rude to comment one way or the other. I'm in this camp too. We've grown into a society that is too invasive of other people's bodies. I don't like having to give an "eating seminar" wherever I go (unless they want to pay me haha), and I just want to live the rest of my life. |
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"Ignoramus14363" wrote in message ... I have thin friends and fat friends, mostly thin. (some of these thin friends used to be fat). We like to talk about dieting sometimes and it is a fun topic for conversations. Just today we had about 20 people over (counting kids) and spoke a bit about diets etc. Everyone could choose what to eat and no one insisted that someone else should eat something. I cannot see just what is terrible about talking about dieting in a respectful manner, or commenting about weight loss of others if prompted. The important words here are "if prompted". Individual reactions vary. If somebody wants to talk or seems to thrive on praise and compliments then comment. Otherwise, perhaps it is best to keep quiet. Some of us like to avoid this topic while others enjoy talking at length. It's like politics or religion, some want to get into endless discussions while others want to avoid the whole situation. I certainly don't consider diets as a "fun" topic for conversations. I have much more interesting things to discuss with people in my life. My personal experience with diet discussions has been anything but fun. In some groups people bring up diets as a opportunity to take cheap shots and make personal remarks without speaking directly to heavier people who are present. Frankly, I hate the people who are constantly talking about diets and only concerned about five vanity pounds. I also dislike those who have lost weight and continue to make it their favorite topic for the rest of their lives, especially when they use it as a opportunity to put down those who haven't been as successful with the dieting efforts or use it as a constant excuse to seek endless praise and complements forever. I only discuss dieting in a support group with people who struggle as I do to maintain any weight loss while trying to get to an even healthier weight. The problem is simply that so many people do not talk about dieting and weight loss in a respectful manner. And please remember that what may seem respectful to you may actually be hurtful to someone who would rather not discuss the topic but is forced to be polite whenever it comes up in conversation. I've smiled my way through diet conversations when I would rather have rammed a doughnut down the throat of the speaker just to shut them off. Thanks, but the size of my ass just isn't open for "fun" conversations. |
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Janie wrote: "Ignoramus14363" wrote in message ... I have thin friends and fat friends, mostly thin. (some of these thin friends used to be fat). We like to talk about dieting sometimes and it is a fun topic for conversations. Just today we had about 20 people over (counting kids) and spoke a bit about diets etc. Everyone could choose what to eat and no one insisted that someone else should eat something. I cannot see just what is terrible about talking about dieting in a respectful manner, or commenting about weight loss of others if prompted. The important words here are "if prompted". Individual reactions vary. If somebody wants to talk or seems to thrive on praise and compliments then comment. Otherwise, perhaps it is best to keep quiet. Some of us like to avoid this topic while others enjoy talking at length. It's like politics or religion, some want to get into endless discussions while others want to avoid the whole situation. I certainly don't consider diets as a "fun" topic for conversations. I have much more interesting things to discuss with people in my life. My personal experience with diet discussions has been anything but fun. In some groups people bring up diets as a opportunity to take cheap shots and make personal remarks without speaking directly to heavier people who are present. Frankly, I hate the people who are constantly talking about diets and only concerned about five vanity pounds. I also dislike those who have lost weight and continue to make it their favorite topic for the rest of their lives, especially when they use it as a opportunity to put down those who haven't been as successful with the dieting efforts or use it as a constant excuse to seek endless praise and complements forever. I only discuss dieting in a support group with people who struggle as I do to maintain any weight loss while trying to get to an even healthier weight. The problem is simply that so many people do not talk about dieting and weight loss in a respectful manner. And please remember that what may seem respectful to you may actually be hurtful to someone who would rather not discuss the topic but is forced to be polite whenever it comes up in conversation. I've smiled my way through diet conversations when I would rather have rammed a doughnut down the throat of the speaker just to shut them off. Thanks, but the size of my ass just isn't open for "fun" conversations. I am just too size-positive (sounds like a loaded term, I know) to respond to any compliment about my weight. I nod and immediately change the subject. Health issues, and a deepening quest for spiritual meaning in my life have led to weight loss to my goal weight. I am not the sort of person who wanted (or shall we say, wanted enough to sacrifice all else) to stay at a low weight when I was a little younger. I am assuming that us of boomer age have almost too many compliments to handle. BUT .... It's the younger folks who have to deal with compliments flying back and forth like tennis balls at the U.S. Open--in this weight loss-reality show-surgery-showbiz anorexia-case-obsessed culture--no less. (Add to that the "obesity crisis" myth.) Lots of luck to you!! Tina 220ish/140 Not yet been 2 years of Maintenance Turning 51 years old very very soon |
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In article ,
Ignoramus14363 wrote: I have thin friends and fat friends, mostly thin. (some of these thin friends used to be fat). We like to talk about dieting sometimes and it is a fun topic for conversations. Just today we had about 20 people over (counting kids) and spoke a bit about diets etc. Everyone could choose what to eat and no one insisted that someone else should eat something. I cannot see just what is terrible about talking about dieting in a respectful manner, or commenting about weight loss of others if prompted. Nothing wrong with talking dieting, but it used to be my first choice of a discussion topic. -- Diva ***** "Fang Shoe" is the art of putting your foot in your mouth. |
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Ig -- Especially if someone has had the success you have had, may I
add. If you were in front of me, I'd sure ask a lot of questions about how, why, how hard, etc. And I'd sure verbally praise you for the positive changes you have made. I only went to one Weight Watchers meeting, but it seemed to me that there was a heck of a lot of applause there for good behavior. But, DSFDF! Anyway, great job! Yours, Caleb |
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