Elliptical Trainers

I have some Christmas money and was considering purchasing the Weslo 710
Elliptical Trainer at my local department store. I was wondering if any of you
have had any experience with this particular model and what you thought of it.


Also, if you have an elliptical trainer that cost under or around $200 and you
enjoy it, what can you tell me about it?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Brian
210/210/160

(Nastyhaggis) wrote in message ...
I have some Christmas money and was considering purchasing the Weslo 710
Elliptical Trainer at my local department store. I was wondering if any of you
have had any experience with this particular model and what you thought of it.


Also, if you have an elliptical trainer that cost under or around $200 and you
enjoy it, what can you tell me about it?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Brian
210/210/160

A couple of years ago I bought the then top-rated (Consumer Reports)
Proform 695. I think, new, it was about $300. I've been using it
every other day since I got it. Great, simple, dependable exercise
equipment. Now discontinued, but the newer model (Proform 700 S) is
top rated by Consumer Search:

http://www.consumersearch.com/www/he...stanswers.html

I bought one of those Tony Little Gazelles a few months ago...I love it...I
have Rheumatoid Arthritis so can't do anything which will stress my
joints...this is a NO IMPACT machine....AND I get a decent work-out on
it...I didn't buy an expensive one...I went to WalMart and bought the
Gazelle Edge which cost me around $80...I could have bought the next model
up for a hundred dollars more...it is a little more heavy duty....but I'm
happy with this one....good luck....
Tony

"Nastyhaggis" wrote in message
...
I have some Christmas money and was considering purchasing the Weslo 710
Elliptical Trainer at my local department store. I was wondering if any
of you
have had any experience with this particular model and what you thought of
it.


Also, if you have an elliptical trainer that cost under or around $200 and
you
enjoy it, what can you tell me about it?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Brian
210/210/160

Ignoramus12114 wrote:

I once found a very nice cross country ski machine NordicTrackPro in
the trash (on the curb), sold it on ebay for $74, had a gentleman pick
it up locally.

At almost every garage sale I go to in the summer, there is
some form of exercise equipment, nearly new, for sale real
cheap.

Marsha/Ohio

Ignoramus26519 wrote:

have you tried glucosamine/chondroitin for your RA?

Do you know if this has carbs in it?

Marsha/Ohio

Mine have 2 grams per 3 tablets which is the recommended dosage. I started
with 3 a day but now take only two. I don't think they would help with
Rheumatoid Arthritis, however, as it has a different cause than the wear and
tear that cause osteoarthritis which is what they are recommended for.

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Marsha stated
|| Ignoramus26519 wrote:
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||| have you tried glucosamine/chondroitin for your RA?
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|| Do you know if this has carbs in it?
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|| Marsha/Ohio

FOB wrote:

Mine have 2 grams per 3 tablets which is the recommended dosage. I started
with 3 a day but now take only two. I don't think they would help with
Rheumatoid Arthritis, however, as it has a different cause than the wear and
tear that cause osteoarthritis which is what they are recommended for.

Thanks. Where did you get this info? It's not listed on the
bottle. I don't have either form of arthritis. But I
started taking them prophylactically about a year ago. I
figured my weight was very bad on the joints, especially
since I've been more active. When my mom started taking
them, she noticed a difference within a couple weeks. She
said her hands didn't hurt anymore like they used to.

Marsha/Ohio

What info? About the types of arthritis? It's just knowledge about
arthritis from what I have read over the years.

From http://www.arthritis.ca/types%20of%2...efault.asp?s=1

What is osteoarthritis?

Osteoarthritis (pronounced ah-stee-oh-arth-rite-iss) is the most common form
of arthritis.
It is caused by the breakdown of cartilage. Cartilage is the tough elastic
material that covers and protects the ends of bones. Bits of cartilage may
break off and cause pain and swelling in the joint between bones. This pain
and swelling is called inflammation.
Over time the cartilage may wear away entirely, and the bones will rub
together.
Osteoarthritis can affect any joint but usually affects hips, knees, hands
and spine.


Osteoarthritis (OA) is often called 'wear and tear' of the joints. OA
causes certain parts of the joints to weaken and break down. Cartilage, the
tough elastic material that cushions the ends of the bones, begins to crack
and get holes in it. Bits of cartilage can break off into the joint space
and irritate soft tissues, such as muscles, and cause problems with
movement. Much of the pain of OA is a result of muscles and the other
tissues that help joints move (such as tendons and ligaments) being forced
to work in ways for which they were not designed, as a result of damage to
the cartilage. Cartilage itself does not have nerve cells, and therefore
cannot sense pain, but the muscles, tendons, ligaments and bones do. After
many years of cartilage erosion, bones may actually rub together. This
grinding of bone against bone adds further to the pain. Bones can also
thicken and form growths, called spurs or osteophytes, which rub together.
Also, when cartilage is weak or damaged, the surrounding bones place extra
force on it, and this may cause excessive blood flow (hyperemia) that can
cause pain, especially at night.


What is rheumatoid (room-a-toid) arthritis?

Rheumatoid arthritis (RA) causes redness, pain, swelling or a hot (or warm)
feeling in the lining of a joint, the place where 2 or more bones come
together.
This redness, pain, swelling and heat around the joint is called
inflammation.
The inflammation may also affect other internal organs, such as the eyes,
lungs, or heart.
RA can affect any joint, but the most common places are the hands or feet.
The inflammation is caused by the bodyâ?Ts immune system.
The immune systemâ?Ts job is to fight off germs and disease. However, in RA,
the immune system attacks healthy joints.
Rheumatoid arthritis (RA) causes inflammation in the lining of the joints
and/or other internal organs. This inflammation separates RA from other more
common forms of arthritis, such as osteoarthritis. It is a chronic disease,
affecting many joints throughout the body, and resulting in damage to
cartilage, bone, tendons and ligaments.
RA causes the synovial lining of the joints to become inflamed. Researchers
believe that the inflammation is triggered by the body's immune system
failing to recognize body tissue as 'normal', therefore attacking it and
bringing about joint damage. The damage becomes worse because the immune
system's attack does not stop, and results in destruction of cartilage,
bone, tendons and ligaments that can lead to permanent deformity and
disability.

Glucosamine and Chondroitin

According to Joe Schwarcz, there is some evidence that glucosamine, a simple
sugar extracted from the exoskeletons of shellfish, may alleviate the pain
of osteoarthritis. In 13 studies he reviewed, glucosamine preparations were
more effective than a placebo. But, not much better. In Dr. Joseph Houpt's
study of 118 patients, glucosamine hydrochloride alleviated pain in
osteoarthritis of the knee for 49% of patients, compared to 40% for the
placebo. And, notes Dr. Stein, relief can be some time in coming, since it
can take up to three months to see an effect.

According to the study: 'The glucosamine hydrochloride didn't work for
everyone, but in the people it helped, it seemed to work as well as NSAIDs.'

However, the study adds, most existing studies are very small, meaning the
results can't be generalized to a larger population. More research, such as
the newly undertaken multi-centre trial by the National Institutes of
Health, should offer better answers.

While some practitioners assert glucosamine preparations provide the
'building blocks' of both the cartilage and synovial fluid that cushion
joints, thereby 'rebuilding' them, there is little evidence to back this
claim. And, many experts don't believe this is possible, since glucosamine
is already present in large amounts throughout the body.

'Just from the chemical point of view, it's hard to imagine,' says Dr.
Schwarcz. 'And there really is no evidence that it helps rebuild cartilage.'

Should you take glucosamine nonetheless?

'Glucosamine either does nothing or may help,' notes Dr. Stein. 'It
certainly appears to be safe. Every year, 1,900 people die of complications
from NSAIDs, whereas as far as I know, there have been no deaths from
glucosamine.' So if you can't take NSAIDS for your osteoarthritis or prefer
to try something which appears to have fewer side-effects before switching
to other drugs, glucosamine may be worth exploring.

Chondroitin sulphate, another component of cartilage, is sometimes combined
with glucosamine in arthritis preparations. 'There's less evidence of any
sort for chrondroitin,' states Dr. Stein. 'But some people believe it takes
up to nine months to work.' It, too, appears to be relatively safe.








In ,
Marsha stated
|| FOB wrote:
||
||| Mine have 2 grams per 3 tablets which is the recommended dosage. I
||| started with 3 a day but now take only two. I don't think they
||| would help with Rheumatoid Arthritis, however, as it has a
||| different cause than the wear and tear that cause osteoarthritis
||| which is what they are recommended for.
||
|| Thanks. Where did you get this info? It's not listed on the
|| bottle. I don't have either form of arthritis. But I
|| started taking them prophylactically about a year ago. I
|| figured my weight was very bad on the joints, especially
|| since I've been more active. When my mom started taking
|| them, she noticed a difference within a couple weeks. She
|| said her hands didn't hurt anymore like they used to.
||
|| Marsha/Ohio

Marsha wrote in message ...
Ignoramus12114 wrote:

I once found a very nice cross country ski machine NordicTrackPro in
the trash (on the curb), sold it on ebay for $74, had a gentleman pick
it up locally.

At almost every garage sale I go to in the summer, there is
some form of exercise equipment, nearly new, for sale real
cheap.

Marsha/Ohio

I've gotten some great used exercise equipment on Ebay, also!