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"The Voice of Reason" wrote in message
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It always confuses me when people who work 8 hours sitting behind a
desk (driving each way) complain they have no time or energy for
exercise. I work 12 hours a day (walking 6 miles each way), yet I
somehow still manage to eat sane amounts of healthy food and lose
weight, adn I find time for running and weight-lifting.

Personally I think that if you've been sitting down all day and still
can't muster the energy to even run for a few miles, you should see a
doctor.

Example: Day starts at 5:30 when you get up, leave for work by 6:30, spend
an hour commuting, so you start work at 7:30 -- leave work at 5:00 (if
you're lucky), spend another hour in the car for the commute home, which
puts you there at 6. To get a 7 hour sleep, you need to get to bed by
10:30. Which leaves 4-1/2 hours for fixing a decent meal (to avoid the
fast food trap), dishes, kids, housecleaning, laundry, shopping, banking,
paying bills, home maintenance/repair, car appointments, dentist & doctor
appointments -- and that's if you have no other social events. Sometimes
it's very difficult to find the time. Personally, if you work 12 hours a
day, and walk 12 miles a day, and still run and weight-lift, even if you
live alone, I don't know where you'd find the time to do any of the
necessary household activities.


Wow, that is a good example. Throw in something like Fibromyalgia in with it,
along with neck and back pain. See if you have any time for anything.

Or even add in a child who has learning disabilities. So, its extra time to
help your child with studies.

Not trying to get sympathy. Just adding into the example, what others like
myself may be going through also.

"The Voice of Reason" wrote in message
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It always confuses me when people who work 8 hours sitting behind a
desk (driving each way) complain they have no time or energy for
exercise. I work 12 hours a day (walking 6 miles each way), yet I
somehow still manage to eat sane amounts of healthy food and lose
weight, adn I find time for running and weight-lifting.

Personally I think that if you've been sitting down all day and still
can't muster the energy to even run for a few miles, you should see a
doctor.


Example: Day starts at 5:30 when you get up, leave for work by 6:30, spend
an hour commuting, so you start work at 7:30 -- leave work at 5:00 (if
you're lucky), spend another hour in the car for the commute home, which
puts you there at 6. To get a 7 hour sleep, you need to get to bed by
10:30. Which leaves 4-1/2 hours for fixing a decent meal (to avoid the
fast food trap), dishes, kids, housecleaning, laundry, shopping, banking,
paying bills, home maintenance/repair, car appointments, dentist & doctor
appointments -- and that's if you have no other social events. Sometimes
it's very difficult to find the time. Personally, if you work 12 hours a
day, and walk 12 miles a day, and still run and weight-lift, even if you
live alone, I don't know where you'd find the time to do any of the
necessary household activities.

From: (R.White)
This "example" is a choice. A choice to work a job an hour away. A
choice to have kids. A choice to be constantly rushing to try and get
everything done. Sounds like a choice made "to have it all" while
actually having less of what matters most of all, time.


That is another good way to look at it. Thanks for sharing your example.

From: (R.White)
The stress needs to be reduced or eliminated, one problem at a time.
Using the example of the day below, I would start by cooking many
meals ahead of time and freezing them on a day off. I would eat using
disposable plates and cups (in fact, during kids soccer season, we
do this exact thing) so I wouldn't have dishes to do. I would be
reheating my pre-made meal in the microwave, so I wouldn't have a
bunch of pots to clean. As for house cleaning, a simple, uncluttered
home makes for much less cleaning. Assign jobs and use a list if you
have to. When I rise in the morning, I'm the first in the bathroom
so I scrub the toilet and sink (if needed) while I'm getting ready
to shower. Spray shower with that cleaning stuff and the bathroom
is pretty much taken care of and it took me about 2 minutes max.
Have enough clothes so laundry only has to be done once a week or
do like we do, a load is put in the washer right after work, put
in the dryer when finished and put away just before bed. Uses almost
no time at all. There are ways to get these things done in minimal
time. Life shouldn't be one big blur passing you by while you are
saddled with the mundane. Get to the point where you're not going to
settle for how things are.


You really gave me some inspiration there. Thanks. Even though this thread was
for someone else. I like your way of thinking.

Great shortcuts you shared. My life is going to become really busy in a week. I
have three kids, and we are all going back to school. Me, into graphic design,
a one year program.

Plus the health problems I have. I have one kid into wrestling, a freshman in
HS. Another one who is 12, and on a football team. Then my oldest, a senior,
and graduating this year.

Its very important to make time to enjoy the good things in life. All work and
no play, makes one crazy, stressed out, and can send you over the edge.



Been there, done it. Its why I have the health problems I have today. If I know
what I know now.. You know how the old saying goes.


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"The Voice of Reason" wrote in message
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It always confuses me when people who work 8 hours sitting behind a
desk (driving each way) complain they have no time or energy for
exercise. I work 12 hours a day (walking 6 miles each way), yet I
somehow still manage to eat sane amounts of healthy food and lose
weight, adn I find time for running and weight-lifting.

Personally I think that if you've been sitting down all day and still
can't muster the energy to even run for a few miles, you should see a
doctor.

Example: Day starts at 5:30 when you get up, leave for work by 6:30,
spend
an hour commuting, so you start work at 7:30 -- leave work at 5:00 (if
you're lucky), spend another hour in the car for the commute home,
which
puts you there at 6. To get a 7 hour sleep, you need to get to bed by
10:30. Which leaves 4-1/2 hours for fixing a decent meal (to avoid
the
fast food trap), dishes, kids, housecleaning, laundry, shopping,
banking,
paying bills, home maintenance/repair, car appointments, dentist &
doctor
appointments -- and that's if you have no other social events.
Sometimes
it's very difficult to find the time. Personally, if you work 12 hours
a
day, and walk 12 miles a day, and still run and weight-lift, even if
you
live alone, I don't know where you'd find the time to do any of the
necessary household activities.

This "example" is a choice. A choice to work a job an hour away. A
choice to have kids. A choice to be constantly rushing to try and get
everything done. Sounds like a choice made "to have it all" while


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"The Voice of Reason" wrote in message

Example: Day starts at 5:30 when you get up, leave for work by 6:30, spend
an hour commuting, so you start work at 7:30 -- leave work at 5:00 (if
you're lucky), spend another hour in the car for the commute home, which
puts you there at 6. To get a 7 hour sleep, you need to get to bed by
10:30. Which leaves 4-1/2 hours for fixing a decent meal (to avoid the
fast food trap), dishes, kids, housecleaning, laundry, shopping, banking,
paying bills, home maintenance/repair, car appointments, dentist & doctor
appointments -- and that's if you have no other social events. Sometimes
it's very difficult to find the time. Personally, if you work 12 hours a
day, and walk 12 miles a day, and still run and weight-lift, even if you
live alone, I don't know where you'd find the time to do any of the
necessary household activities.

Cooking meals, yup... I probably spend an hour a day if I combine all the
time I spend in food preparation (more is something special is going on)
Dishes aren't that time consuming to do if you have a dishwasher (I don't,
but it's still under 30 minutes a day)
I only shop on the weekends because weekday lines after work are terrible
Banking? Ummm, I don't think I spend any time banking. What is that?
I only pay bills on weekends.
unless there is an emergency, the only home maintenance/repair & car
appointments happen on weekends.
I only see the dr & dentist once a year so that's not really a time factor
Housecleaning... just a few minutes each day during the week, with anything
else on the weekend.

What the list is missing is time for working out.

Of course, I don't have kids yet. I imagine that would add time and
complication to everything on the list because kids make more laundry, more
dishes, more bills, definitely more mess to clean. Get 'em to clean up
themselves. When I was growing up, we children were responsible for
almost all of the family laundry, almost all of the family dishwashing, and
a good portion of the housecleaning and yardwork. Our parents supervised in
the beginning, and later just did checkups.

Although, I personally believe that if you have kids, one parent should stay
home until they are at least full-time-school age. It often works out to be
cheaper. Paying for daycare, a 2nd car, work clothes, etc. often adds up to
more than the 2nd salary would be. It also can put you into a higher tax
bracket even though you end up with less money. So with one parent staying
home full time they can take care of the housework, childcare, bills, etc.
during the week.

Hi,
On 24-Aug-2004, dizzy d wrote:

Dave C. wrote:
You do have the choice. You can accomplish ANYTHING. Somewhere
inside you, you have the ability to make anything happen that
you so desire.

Oh man, if this guy starts chanting "There's No Place Like Home",
I am SO outta here . . . .

Aw come on, I was just about to start roasting marshmallows
and sing Kumbaya!

I'll bring the graham crackers!!! Now if someone can bring the
chocolate were all set. -Dave

How many points is that?

Depends. Low carb chocolate might be lower in points depending on the
brand. ;-)

Take care,
Carmen

Hi,
On 23-Aug-2004, "Dave C." wrote:

Most people who work to get more out of life have no time for
one.

Well **** that was deep. I think I'll quit my job and go live off
the land. I've been saved. You're my hero. -Dave

To help you on your frugal future here are some recipes for the bounty
that our highways and byways yield:
http://www.collectiblesagency.com/recipes/roadgame.htm

Bon Apetit!

Take care,
Carmen

On 24-Aug-2004, (The Voice of Reason) wrote:

In the first place, who said anything about "constantly"? But
I'll bet you don't even own a home, or you wouldn't ask that
question. If you
did, you'd realize that there is maintenance that needs to be
done, sometimes
frequently, sometimes not, and things and appliances to be
repaired, maintained and sometimes replaced.

I maintain my house and it doesn't exactly take up hours every day,
not if you look after it properly.

You know, as I've read your posts in this thread the past few days I
can't help but wonder what your idea of housekeeping involves. Do you
move furniture when you clean? Do you dust? Do you clean the tub
daily? The commode? How often do you clean the windows? Vacuum out
the bathroom fan, ceiling fans and box fans? Do a walk through and
clean any finger smudges on the walls? Wipe down the refrigerator?
Shake out throw rugs? Wipe down the bathroom sink and counter and
mirror? Take a broom to the ceiling in case there are cobwebs and/or
dust? How often do you clean the microwave and range? How long ago
was it that you cleaned your oven? How often do you wash your towels,
sheets, comforters, curtains, etc.?

In short, what is *your* idea of doing the housework?

Carmen

On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 16:57:26 GMT, Carmen wrote:


On 24-Aug-2004, (The Voice of Reason) wrote:

In the first place, who said anything about "constantly"? But
I'll bet you don't even own a home, or you wouldn't ask that
question. If you
did, you'd realize that there is maintenance that needs to be
done, sometimes
frequently, sometimes not, and things and appliances to be
repaired, maintained and sometimes replaced.

I maintain my house and it doesn't exactly take up hours every day,
not if you look after it properly.

You know, as I've read your posts in this thread the past few days I
can't help but wonder what your idea of housekeeping involves. Do you
move furniture when you clean? Do you dust? Do you clean the tub
daily? The commode? How often do you clean the windows? Vacuum out
the bathroom fan, ceiling fans and box fans? Do a walk through and
clean any finger smudges on the walls? Wipe down the refrigerator?
Shake out throw rugs? Wipe down the bathroom sink and counter and
mirror? Take a broom to the ceiling in case there are cobwebs and/or
dust? How often do you clean the microwave and range? How long ago
was it that you cleaned your oven? How often do you wash your towels,
sheets, comforters, curtains, etc.?

In short, what is *your* idea of doing the housework?

Carmen

Writing a check to Merry Maids?

--
Bob in CT
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On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 16:57:26 GMT, Carmen wrote:


On 24-Aug-2004, (The Voice of Reason) wrote:

In the first place, who said anything about "constantly"? But
I'll bet you don't even own a home, or you wouldn't ask that
question. If you
did, you'd realize that there is maintenance that needs to be
done, sometimes
frequently, sometimes not, and things and appliances to be
repaired, maintained and sometimes replaced.

I maintain my house and it doesn't exactly take up hours every day,
not if you look after it properly.

You know, as I've read your posts in this thread the past few days I
can't help but wonder what your idea of housekeeping involves. Do you
move furniture when you clean? Do you dust? Do you clean the tub
daily? The commode? How often do you clean the windows? Vacuum out
the bathroom fan, ceiling fans and box fans? Do a walk through and
clean any finger smudges on the walls? Wipe down the refrigerator?
Shake out throw rugs? Wipe down the bathroom sink and counter and
mirror? Take a broom to the ceiling in case there are cobwebs and/or
dust? How often do you clean the microwave and range? How long ago
was it that you cleaned your oven? How often do you wash your towels,
sheets, comforters, curtains, etc.?

In short, what is *your* idea of doing the housework?

Carmen

Writing a check to Merry Maids?

--
Bob in CT
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Hi,
On 24-Aug-2004, Bob in CT wrote:

I maintain my house and it doesn't exactly take up hours every
day, not if you look after it properly.

You know, as I've read your posts in this thread the past few days
I can't help but wonder what your idea of housekeeping involves.
Do
you move furniture when you clean? Do you dust? Do you clean the
tub
daily? The commode? How often do you clean the windows? Vacuum
out the bathroom fan, ceiling fans and box fans? Do a walk
through
and clean any finger smudges on the walls? Wipe down the
refrigerator? Shake out throw rugs? Wipe down the bathroom sink
and counter and
mirror? Take a broom to the ceiling in case there are cobwebs
and/or dust? How often do you clean the microwave and range? How
long
ago was it that you cleaned your oven? How often do you wash your
towels, sheets, comforters, curtains, etc.?

In short, what is *your* idea of doing the housework?

Carmen

Writing a check to Merry Maids?

If they clean properly that sounds good. :-) I doubt He Who Talks
Smack does that though. I suspect he just has a nasty house.

Take care,
Carmen