Zone Question

Is Barry Sears "The Zone" program considered Low carb? A CTV news
reporter grouped it with Atkins as such to make a point about the new
Sliman's light beer with 2.5 grams of carbs as compared to regular
brewsky at 11.5 grams for an equivilant serving.

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Carol Frilegh wrote:
Is Barry Sears "The Zone" program considered Low carb? A CTV news
reporter grouped it with Atkins as such to make a point about the new
Sliman's light beer with 2.5 grams of carbs as compared to regular
brewsky at 11.5 grams for an equivilant serving.

It's low carb compared to high-carb diets. It comes in at around 45%
carbs as I recall. It definitely talks about avoiding high-calorie-dense
foods that spike blood sugar, though, so some people would call that
low-carb. I call it common sense.

The gist of the book is that you have to balance lean proteins with
high-fiber, high-nutrient carbs and a dash of healthy fats to obtain
better health, which includes managing blood sugar swings and getting to
an optimal weight.

Wendy

On 9/27/2003 12:20 PM, Carol Frilegh wrote:
Is Barry Sears "The Zone" program considered Low carb? A CTV news
reporter grouped it with Atkins as such to make a point about the new
Sliman's light beer with 2.5 grams of carbs as compared to regular
brewsky at 11.5 grams for an equivilant serving.

Here's an article that compares many of the named diets:
http://my.webmd.com/content/pages/11...000_0000_rl_03

I hope that this helps!

On 9/27/2003 2:03 PM, Wendy wrote:
Carol Frilegh wrote:

Is Barry Sears "The Zone" program considered Low carb? A CTV news
reporter grouped it with Atkins as such to make a point about the new
Sliman's light beer with 2.5 grams of carbs as compared to regular
brewsky at 11.5 grams for an equivilant serving.


It's low carb compared to high-carb diets. It comes in at around 45%
carbs as I recall. It definitely talks about avoiding high-calorie-dense
foods that spike blood sugar, though, so some people would call that
low-carb. I call it common sense.

What do you mean by high-carb? Are you saying that the AHA
recommendations
(http://www.americanheart.org/present...entifier=10941) are high
carb?

On 9/29/2003 9:44 AM, Ignoramus3739 wrote:
In article , jmk wrote:


On 9/27/2003 2:03 PM, Wendy wrote:

Carol Frilegh wrote:


Is Barry Sears "The Zone" program considered Low carb? A CTV news
reporter grouped it with Atkins as such to make a point about the new
Sliman's light beer with 2.5 grams of carbs as compared to regular
brewsky at 11.5 grams for an equivilant serving.


It's low carb compared to high-carb diets. It comes in at around 45%
carbs as I recall. It definitely talks about avoiding high-calorie-dense
foods that spike blood sugar, though, so some people would call that
low-carb. I call it common sense.

What do you mean by high-carb? Are you saying that the AHA
recommendations
(http://www.americanheart.org/present...entifier=10941) are high
carb?



It would appear that their recommendation (60% of calories from
complex carbs) are very high carb. Remember that fruits, for example,
have a lot of simple carbs. So eating simple carbs frmo fruits in
addition to 60% of calories from complex carbs, will make it to
perhaps 70+ percent of calories from carbs.

Very high? Nope. Just normal.


I would like to see them explain how they came up with these
recommendations and whether they are based on evidence other than
cross nation and epidemiological studies. Whatever tidbits I read
about those recommendations, appear to suggest that there was no
controlled study of this proposed diet and how well it fared, by the
american heart association.

They do, click the link on the page --
http://www.americanheart.org/present...dentifier=1466


They were however very eager to stamp their "Heart Healthy" approval
on sugar laden junk food products, of course at a hefty price for the
food manufacturers. A nice racket... How much do I trust AHA after
that? Not much. Honest people do not do things like that. Even if they
apologize and discontinue, they have shown to be dishonest.

Oh please, as if there is no Zone food or Atkins food or whatever out
there. Following your logic, these folks should probably not be trusted
because they are not out to help people be healthy, they are out to make
a buck.

The AHA check mark log clearly states, "food meets criteria for
heart-healthy levels of fat, saturated fat and cholesterol for healthy
people over age 2." It's pretty much up to you to read the nutritional
info on the label and to know that low fat is not calorie free.

If you care to look up the specifics of the AHA certification program,
here's the info: http://216.110.59.27/certification.htm

On 9/29/2003 12:20 PM, Ignoramus3739 wrote:
In article , jmk wrote:


On 9/29/2003 9:44 AM, Ignoramus3739 wrote:

In article , jmk wrote:


On 9/27/2003 2:03 PM, Wendy wrote:


Carol Frilegh wrote:



Is Barry Sears "The Zone" program considered Low carb? A CTV news
reporter grouped it with Atkins as such to make a point about the new
Sliman's light beer with 2.5 grams of carbs as compared to regular
brewsky at 11.5 grams for an equivilant serving.


It's low carb compared to high-carb diets. It comes in at around 45%
carbs as I recall. It definitely talks about avoiding high-calorie-dense
foods that spike blood sugar, though, so some people would call that
low-carb. I call it common sense.

What do you mean by high-carb? Are you saying that the AHA
recommendations
(http://www.americanheart.org/present...entifier=10941) are high
carb?



It would appear that their recommendation (60% of calories from
complex carbs) are very high carb. Remember that fruits, for example,
have a lot of simple carbs. So eating simple carbs frmo fruits in
addition to 60% of calories from complex carbs, will make it to
perhaps 70+ percent of calories from carbs.

Very high? Nope. Just normal.


Okay, so let's agree that we do not have the same definition of very
high.

If 45% carbs is low-carb what do you consider normal?

In alt.support.diet jmk wrote:

If 45% carbs is low-carb what do you consider normal?

The average American diet is about 50% carbs (43% come from refined carbs
or sugar) and about 35% fats (mostly saturated and trans-fats) and about
15% protein.

The Zone diet is actually MUCH higher in fiber, vegetables and whole grain
carbs than the average american diet. It's overall lower in fat but
higher in polyunsaturated and monounsaturated fats. It has more protein,
too, but still not more protein than carbs. I believe the breakdown is
around 45% carb/30% protein/25% fat. That's what I aim for now.

The MacDougall diet and the Ornish diet are both high carb diets where
they request that a very low percentage of your calories come from fat -
typically 10-15%. The MacDougall diet is vegan and consequently very low
protein, and the Ornish diet has very limited protein, as well, inasmuch
as it is so closely associated with fats. I don't know the ratio, but I'd
say the protein percentages are in the 10-15%, too. I used to follow the
MacDougall diet and my ratios were more like 75% carb/10% protein/15%
fat. During that time I hit my all-time highest weight and my HDL became
vanishingly low while my skin was cracked and healing poorly and my
energy level was in the toilet.

I would call THAT a high-carb diet. I would also call it a mistake. Lyle
called it "a ****ed up idiotic diet." I thought I was eating far superior
to the average American.

Wendy

Wendy wrote:
The Zone diet is actually MUCH higher in fiber, vegetables and whole grain
carbs than the average american diet. It's overall lower in fat but
higher in polyunsaturated and monounsaturated fats. It has more protein,
too, but still not more protein than carbs. I believe the breakdown is
around 45% carb/30% protein/25% fat. That's what I aim for now.


Nope - 30%, 40%, 30%

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Archon wrote:


Nope - 30%, 40%, 30%

That's the order P/C/F



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In alt.support.diet Archon wrote:
Wendy wrote:
The Zone diet is actually MUCH higher in fiber, vegetables and whole grain
carbs than the average american diet. It's overall lower in fat but
higher in polyunsaturated and monounsaturated fats. It has more protein,
too, but still not more protein than carbs. I believe the breakdown is
around 45% carb/30% protein/25% fat. That's what I aim for now.

Nope - 40% carb, 30% protein, 30% fat.

Well, I'd maintain that the difference between 40-45% carb and 25-30% fat
is within the daily variations of most people's diet. I prefer slightly
less fat and slightly bigger salads than most people.

Wendy