Looking for info on carb value of cooked vegetables

Billy wrote:
In article ,
bob abrams wrote:

Doug Freyburger wrote:
Bill who putters wrote:
The only legume I enjoy raw are snow peas. Cook them too. Some of the
string beans cooked and pickled were good as well. Three bean salad
comes to mind. Favas not eaten here but this will be remedied.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vicia_faba
How would you like to define a legume?

If you define it in botanical terms then anything from the plants will
count as legumes. Snow peas and string beans are legumes by this
definition.

If you define it as the dried seeds from the pods, then only dried
beans, peas and lentils count. Because the fresh snow peas and string
beans are edible raw they would not count. Also notice that the carb
count for snow peas and string beans are lower than the carb count of
the dried ones. Also note that the paleolithic plans that do not allow
the dried legumes do allow the fresh ones.

For low carbing purposes the second definition is more useful. For my
purposes I don't count snow peas or string beans as legumes. I count
them by their relative carb count so for me they are in the same list of
low carb veggies with brocolli and asparagus.
Snow peas brings something to me that I can enjoy. Thanks.

The you may enjoy this as well.
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Do you know if this snow pea vegetable is grown in the US?
I a leery when they say they are easier to grow in artificial
environments as I have read way too much about the vagaries of Chinese
indoor or controlled farming and the types of fertilizer used.

Thanks

In article ,
bob abrams wrote:

Billy wrote:
In article ,
bob abrams wrote:

Doug Freyburger wrote:
Bill who putters wrote:
The only legume I enjoy raw are snow peas. Cook them too. Some of the
string beans cooked and pickled were good as well. Three bean salad
comes to mind. Favas not eaten here but this will be remedied.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vicia_faba
How would you like to define a legume?

If you define it in botanical terms then anything from the plants will
count as legumes. Snow peas and string beans are legumes by this
definition.

If you define it as the dried seeds from the pods, then only dried
beans, peas and lentils count. Because the fresh snow peas and string
beans are edible raw they would not count. Also notice that the carb
count for snow peas and string beans are lower than the carb count of
the dried ones. Also note that the paleolithic plans that do not allow
the dried legumes do allow the fresh ones.

For low carbing purposes the second definition is more useful. For my
purposes I don't count snow peas or string beans as legumes. I count
them by their relative carb count so for me they are in the same list of
low carb veggies with brocolli and asparagus.
Snow peas brings something to me that I can enjoy. Thanks.

The you may enjoy this as well.
http://www.theproducehunter.com/productdisplay.asp?ID=2275

http://www.flavorandfortune.com/dataaccess/article.php?ID=307


Do you know if this snow pea vegetable is grown in the US?
I a leery when they say they are easier to grow in artificial
environments as I have read way too much about the vagaries of Chinese
indoor or controlled farming and the types of fertilizer used.

Thanks

I'm still learning about peas shoots. I had some stir-fried last night.
the stems were rather chewy, but maybe, I'm only to eat the growing tip
of the plant, whereas I harvested any ol' tendrils and ended up feeling
like a cow chewing her cud. I'll report back on my next attempt.
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn3lF5XSUg
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Zinn/HZinn_page.html

In article ,
bob abrams wrote:


Do you know if this snow pea vegetable is grown in the US?
I a leery when they say they are easier to grow in artificial
environments as I have read way too much about the vagaries of Chinese
indoor or controlled farming and the types of fertilizer used.

I regularly see snow peas in the grocery and produce market, especially
in the spring. These days, all markets should have signs telling you
where their produce is from. Mine regularly has produce from the US,
Canada, and Mexico, and fruit from the southern hemisphere (Chile, New
Zealand, etc.). I don't think I've ever seen produce from China (though
I have seen seafood from there, I think). And, of course, you can grow
snow peas in your vegetable garden, though they should have been
planted, in most zones, at least a month ago.

--
"[xxx] has very definite opinions, and does not suffer fools lightly.
This, apparently, upsets the fools."
---BB cuts to the pith of a flame-fest

In article ,
Alice Faber wrote:

In article ,
bob abrams wrote:


Do you know if this snow pea vegetable is grown in the US?
I a leery when they say they are easier to grow in artificial
environments as I have read way too much about the vagaries of Chinese
indoor or controlled farming and the types of fertilizer used.

I regularly see snow peas in the grocery and produce market, especially
in the spring. These days, all markets should have signs telling you
where their produce is from. Mine regularly has produce from the US,
Canada, and Mexico, and fruit from the southern hemisphere (Chile, New
Zealand, etc.). I don't think I've ever seen produce from China (though
I have seen seafood from there, I think). And, of course, you can grow
snow peas in your vegetable garden, though they should have been
planted, in most zones, at least a month ago.

Snow peas can be planted in the fall too. We liked Sugar Ann.

Some different varieties listed in below URL but you can purchase from
anywhere.

http://www.johnnyseeds.com/search.aspx?SearchTerm=snow+peas

--
Bill S. Jersey USA zone 5 shade garden
What use one more wake up call?

http://www.thesunmagazine.org/

In article ,
Alice Faber wrote:

In article ,
bob abrams wrote:


Do you know if this snow pea vegetable is grown in the US?
I a leery when they say they are easier to grow in artificial
environments as I have read way too much about the vagaries of Chinese
indoor or controlled farming and the types of fertilizer used.

I regularly see snow peas in the grocery and produce market, especially
in the spring. These days, all markets should have signs telling you
where their produce is from. Mine regularly has produce from the US,
Canada, and Mexico, and fruit from the southern hemisphere (Chile, New
Zealand, etc.). I don't think I've ever seen produce from China (though
I have seen seafood from there, I think). And, of course, you can grow
snow peas in your vegetable garden, though they should have been
planted, in most zones, at least a month ago.

Buy as locally, and in season as you can. The food will be healthier,
and so will the planet.
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn3lF5XSUg
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Zinn/HZinn_page.html