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  #51  
Old January 24th, 2004, 07:57 PM
Hugh Beyer
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Sarah Jane wrote in news:20040124112200260-0600
@netnews.worldnet.att.net:

This link is an industry trade mag with a lot
of good articles, though many are tought to read for us
"laypeople"! Anyway, some good research. One in particular is
about frequency is suprising: It's better to work out twice a
week than three times.

Better for *what*? Different people have different goals, and
for my goals, twice a week is *not* sufficient. In fact, some
powerlifters train twice a day, 5 or 6 days a week.

http://www.fitnessmanagement.com/FM/tmpl/genPage.asp?
=/information/articles/library/strength/strength.html

File not found.


Yup, you're a genius all right.


Because you can't properly post a link?


I didn't find the article your moron is referencing (what, we haven't got
enough of our own that you have to import them?) but I did find this:

http://www.fitnessmanagement.com/FM/tmpl/genPage.asp?
p=/information/articles/library/strength/begin1100.html

Very interesting survey of studies all of which show that 3x week is better
than 2x or 1x for strength and body recomposition. They also tend to show
that there's not a lot of difference between 1x and 2x /week, and that the
gains are starting to taper off at 3x /week (that is, 3xweek is doesn't give
you half again the gains of 2x week).

So you can lay off, I think he's defeating himself.

Hugh


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  #52  
Old January 24th, 2004, 08:06 PM
Sarah Jane
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In Hugh Beyer wrote:
Sarah Jane wrote in news:20040124112200260-0600
@netnews.worldnet.att.net:


Yup, you're a genius all right.


Because you can't properly post a link?


I didn't find the article your moron is referencing


Oh, so when he does something wrong he's *my* moron?

(what, we haven't
got enough of our own that you have to import them?)


The more the merrier, right?

but I did find this:

http://www.fitnessmanagement.com/FM/tmpl/genPage.asp?
p=/information/articles/library/strength/begin1100.html

Very interesting survey of studies all of which show that 3x week is
better than 2x or 1x for strength and body recomposition.


Shocking. Surely, that can't be true!

So you can lay off, I think he's defeating himself.


Oh, he's been doing that for a while. But thank you for your support.

Hugh


  #54  
Old January 24th, 2004, 08:26 PM
Bingo
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wrote in
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In Bingo
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Sarah Jane wrote in
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In Bingo
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Sarah Jane wrote in
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The file not found you tried so hard to find, you can find
yourself at www.fitnessmanagement.com in the unlikely event
that you want to learn something.



Their home page proclaims that they have over 1500 articles. Was
I supposed to read all of them in the hopes that one of them was
the one you were talking about?


Look at the index, find 'strength training', look at article list.
Real hard.
  #55  
Old January 24th, 2004, 08:29 PM
Bingo
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Hugh Beyer wrote in
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3x /week (that is, 3xweek is doesn't give
you half again the gains of 2x week).


This is what I was referring to, and only as a footnote to the main
point. And you weren't involved in the discussion, so to call me a
moron only means that you, too. are an ASSHOLE.

And no, *I* am not the pone defeationg myself.
  #56  
Old January 24th, 2004, 08:37 PM
JC Der Koenig
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"Bingo" wrote in message
. 77...


And no, *I* am not the pone defeationg myself.


Could you translate that into English please? TIA


  #57  
Old January 24th, 2004, 08:40 PM
Hugh Beyer
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Bingo wrote in news:Xns947A9DA5648AFbillmicrosoftcom@
216.148.227.77:

Hugh Beyer wrote in
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3x /week (that is, 3xweek is doesn't give
you half again the gains of 2x week).


This is what I was referring to, and only as a footnote to the main
point. And you weren't involved in the discussion, so to call me a
moron only means that you, too. are an ASSHOLE.


You poor, misunderstood darling, what you said was "It's better to work out
twice a week than three times." No qualifiers at all. And when SJ suggested
some qualifiers, you posted a broken link. And I didn't call you an ASSHOLE,
though if you wish to take that name on yourself, be my guest.



And no, *I* am not the pone defeationg myself.


Quick, somebody, get the meds, he's going non-linear.

Hugh



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Old January 24th, 2004, 08:46 PM
Dally
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Bingo wrote:

And you weren't involved in the discussion, so to call me a
moron only means that you, too. are an ASSHOLE.


Bingo, my dear, drop MFW from your posts and you'll be much happier.
You're still arguing with me that you need to run my info by a
nutritionist. You're not ready for MFW.

And no, *I* am not the pone defeationg myself.


Uh, sure, if you say so.

Dally

  #59  
Old January 24th, 2004, 08:55 PM
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In Bingo wrote:
Hugh Beyer wrote in
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3x /week (that is, 3xweek is doesn't give
you half again the gains of 2x week).


This is what I was referring to, and only as a footnote to the main
point.


I can't figure out what your main point is. You're the one who came into
the discussion saying that most people didn't have enough time to stay
in shape. I said that three hours a week was enough, and you said you
were doing triple that. I then pointed out that 3 hours would be enough
if you trained more efficiently. Then you came up with the one set is as
good as multiple sets, and twice a week is *better* than three.

I have no idea where you're getting the twice being better. The studies
showed that 3x/wk doesn't give 1.5x the gains of 2, but it's still more
gains than 2x/wk.

From Study One:

"The subjects who trained once and twice a week had similar strength
improvements (24.7 lbs. vs. 22.8 lbs.), which represented about 73
percent as much strength development as the subjects who trained three
days per week (32.7 lbs.)."

73% is less than 100%, right?

Study Two:

"Surprisingly, the men and women who trained just twice a week
experienced 88 percent as much muscle gain and 87 percent as much fat
loss as those who trained three times per week (see Table 2). "

88% and 87% are less than 100%, right?

Study Three:

"Although they performed only two-thirds as much weekly exercise, the
two-day trainees achieved 73 percent as much strength improvement as the
three-day trainees."

73% is less than 100%, right?

"Because better results were attained with three weekly workouts, this
is the recommended strength-training frequency for new exercisers."

Better is better, right?

And you weren't involved in the discussion, so to call me a
moron only means that you, too. are an ASSHOLE.


This is USENET, sweetie. Anyone who wants to be involved in the
discussion is involved in the discussion.


And no, *I* am not the pone defeationg myself.


Care to try again?
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Old January 24th, 2004, 09:01 PM
Sarah Jane
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In Bingo wrote:
wrote in
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In Bingo
wrote:
Sarah Jane wrote in
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In Bingo
wrote:
Sarah Jane wrote in
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The file not found you tried so hard to find, you can find
yourself at www.fitnessmanagement.com in the unlikely event
that you want to learn something.



Their home page proclaims that they have over 1500 articles. Was
I supposed to read all of them in the hopes that one of them was
the one you were talking about?


Look at the index, find 'strength training', look at article list.
Real hard.


That's 50 articles. How was I supposed to know which one you were
referring to?
 




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