How to get abs

wrote:

"Because better results were attained with three weekly workouts, this
is the recommended strength-training frequency for new exercisers."

Leaving you enough time for a social life, right?

Speaking of which, how was the club, did you go?

Dally, living vicariously from her desk

That is the type I do... Where the is between my back and the wall. I hold
a weight in both hands and squat down holding the weight in front of me.
This is what my trainer has taught me to do since I too have bad knees and
back. It doesn't hurt either and makes my buns/quads burn! It is a great
exercise. I also do tummy crunches on the ball as well. I do a modified
lunge, where I hold 1 10 lb weight in each hand and step up on a low bench,
BUT DON'T PULL MY WEIGHT UP ALL OF THE WAY. I step up, tighten butt,
stretch for a second and switch legs. That works my butt/quads and
stabilizer muscles. I am a klutz and doing all of the techniques have made
me steadier.

"Dally" wrote in

But why not hack squats or dumbbell squats
with a swiss ball?
Dally

In Dally wrote:
wrote:

"Because better results were attained with three weekly workouts,
this is the recommended strength-training frequency for new
exercisers."

Leaving you enough time for a social life, right?

Or something that passes for one.


Speaking of which, how was the club, did you go?

Yup. Your brother's band RAWKS. And he seems like a nice guy. I didn't
get to talk to him too much though, seemed like he had some other folks
he needed to pay more attention to. Either that or he thought I was
obese and hideous and didn't really want to spend any more time talking
to me.

Dally, living vicariously from her desk

"Bingo" wrote in message
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Hugh Beyer wrote in
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3x /week (that is, 3xweek is doesn't give
you half again the gains of 2x week).


This is what I was referring to, and only as a footnote to the main
point. And you weren't involved in the discussion, so to call me a
moron only means that you, too. are an ASSHOLE.

And no, *I* am not the pone defeationg myself.

singing

The was a dog that licked his ass
And Bingo was his name - oh!

\singing

Bingo wrote:
Sarah Jane wrote:
In Bingo wrote:

Multiple
sets gains you nothing, which is good for me because I hate
more than one set.

The research that shows that single sets are as good as multiple
sets was all done on beginners, who will make gains no matter
what they do. Therefore it's not very informative. That may or
may not be the case for intermediate and advanced lifters,
depending on goals. How long have you been lifting?

False. Do your research.

Your "cite" was the guy who's in charge of keeping the line moving in
the Nautilus center at your gym. He's wrong. You're wrong, too. One
set of 12 Nautilus done in a circuit will *preserve* strength, but it
won't give you either the fat-burning effect or the hypertrophy (and
hence, metabolism increase) that intense free-weights will give you.

Read my response to Dally. Heavy free weights are not an option
with my back.

I don't believe this, by the way. Why do you? You've also mentioned a
knee injury, as I recall, yet the main way to strengthen a knee is to
strengthen the quads and squats are the best way to do that. No one
said you have to use weights heavier than you can control in good form.
(Or were you thinking of Smith machine squats? Those are bad for your
back, stay away from those.) But why not hack squats or dumbbell squats
with a swiss ball?

What's in it for you to avoid doing free weights? Why not push past
your comfort zone to see if maybe we're right about the benefits?

Dally

Sarah Jane wrote:

Leaving you enough time for a social life, right?

Or something that passes for one.

Beats mine.

Speaking of which, how was the club, did you go?

Yup. Your brother's band RAWKS. And he seems like a nice guy. I didn't
get to talk to him too much though, seemed like he had some other folks
he needed to pay more attention to. Either that or he thought I was
obese and hideous and didn't really want to spend any more time talking
to me.

Hmmm, maybe I *should* have sent him the hotornot picture. :-)

My apologies if he blew you off, he specifically said to have you come
up and introduce yourself. I know he's not dating anyone and I also
know he's not shallow. But it was their last performance before they
head back to the studio and maybe he had to settle his groupies or
something.

I just realized I don't know your age: are you post-menopausal (but
well-preserved) or something? Ian's just turned 38. My guess is that
he'd only be interested in women who are 25-35 and very smart. He
hasn't dated enough women for me to be able to determine his "type" of
look, but it might be big-boobed blondes with long legs and tiny hips.
That's the look his first-love (that ball-breaking bitch) had.
(Although she looks like one, she's not actually a stripper: she's an
M.D.). His mother kind of has that look, too. That body type is a tad
difficult to come by in Texas, eh? Types aren't set in stone, but it
does sort of preclude "love at first sight" if you aren't the
pre-selected version.

Won't Ian just be thrilled if he ever googles all this!

Dally

"determined" wrote in message ...

And as far as what specific % you will see your abs... it depends on how
you carry your fat. I'm a female and carry most of my fat around my
middle - I'll probably never see my abs, even if I drop my overall bodyfat
pretty low. Most men will see ab definition at 15% I believe.

My body fat is 12-13%, but I have noticeable abdominal fat. Well,
noticeable to me, anyway. Everyone else tells me not to worry about
it. I am six feet tall and 155 pounds.

Derek Juhl

In Dally wrote:
Sarah Jane wrote:

Leaving you enough time for a social life, right?

Or something that passes for one.

Beats mine.

That's kinda sad.

Speaking of which, how was the club, did you go?

Yup. Your brother's band RAWKS. And he seems like a nice guy. I
didn't get to talk to him too much though, seemed like he had some
other folks he needed to pay more attention to. Either that or he
thought I was obese and hideous and didn't really want to spend any
more time talking to me.

Hmmm, maybe I *should* have sent him the hotornot picture. :-)

My apologies if he blew you off, he specifically said to have you come
up and introduce yourself.

Oh, he didn't exactly blow me off. He wasn't rude or anything, and he
did know exactly who I was when I introduced myself. I was just hoping
to have a little more of a chance to talk to him, although it's sort of
hard to have a real conversation in a noisy club anyway. But he did ask
for my phone number, so we'll see if he actually calls.

I know he's not dating anyone and I also
know he's not shallow. But it was their last performance before they
head back to the studio and maybe he had to settle his groupies or
something.

Something like that.


I just realized I don't know your age: are you post-menopausal (but
well-preserved) or something?

I'm 34, almost 35.

Ian's just turned 38. My guess is that
he'd only be interested in women who are 25-35 and very smart.

Well other than being an idiot, that would be me.

He hasn't dated enough women for me to be able to determine his
"type" of look, but it might be big-boobed blondes with long legs
and tiny hips.

Uhh, that ain't me.

That's the look his first-love (that ball-breaking bitch) had.
(Although she looks like one, she's not actually a stripper: she's an
M.D.). His mother kind of has that look, too. That body type is a
tad difficult to come by in Texas, eh?

Maybe in Austin. I think Houston is full of leggy big-boobed blondes.
Not that either the boobies or the blondeness is real in most cases, but
most guys don't seem to care too much about that.

Types aren't set in stone,
but it does sort of preclude "love at first sight" if you aren't the
pre-selected version.

I think "love at first sight" is pretty silly anyway. In most cases it
turns out to be more like "lust at first sight".

Won't Ian just be thrilled if he ever googles all this!

That probably depends on one's definition of "thrilled".


Dally

Sarah Jane wrote:

In Dally wrote:
Sarah Jane wrote:


Leaving you enough time for a social life, right?
Or something that passes for one.
Beats mine.
That's kinda sad.

Yeah, I was going for "pitiful" there. It's tax season and I'm chained
to my desk.

He hasn't dated enough women for me to be able to determine his
"type" of look, but it might be big-boobed blondes with long legs
and tiny hips.

Uhh, that ain't me.

Well, I figured you weren't a blonde dying your hair brown to see how
the other 90% live.

But I figure that *most* men go for the stripper-type. Which is why
strippers are that type. (Cue Lyle for more insight here, I honestly
don't know all that many strippers.)

I think "love at first sight" is pretty silly anyway. In most cases it
turns out to be more like "lust at first sight".

Yup. But lust at first sight at least gives you a hobby while you get
to know each other. :-)

Won't Ian just be thrilled if he ever googles all this!

That probably depends on one's definition of "thrilled".

Sort of like "****ed" is the one I was thinking of.

Um, maybe here's a good time to mention that he doesn't know I'm using
this name online? In other words, don't give him enough info to google
his sister, please. (And I'll return the favor by declining to mention
your google-ability.) (Though you mostly show up as smart and I mostly
show up as overbearingly stupid (and fat), so I have more to lose here
than you.)

Dally

Derek N.P.F. Juhl wrote:

My body fat is 12-13%, but I have noticeable abdominal fat. Well,
noticeable to me, anyway. Everyone else tells me not to worry about
it. I am six feet tall and 155 pounds.

My advice is to seek perspective. Do you want to be a fitness model?
Then you're in deep **** with all that subcutaneous blubber. Do you
want to look good in your size 32 waist jeans? I'm sure you look great.
And at your body fat percentage there isn't much fat wrapped around
your organs causing health risks.

My husband has your dimensions (BF%, weight and height) and he is
generally one of the most fit and trim and athletic men in whatever
group he happens to be in. He's 48 and I think he looks damn good. But
there isn't any chance of a six-pack showing up anytime soon, and he
doesn't hang out with elite athletes.

(By the way, he lost 20 pounds of fat when I changed my way of eating -
he didn't used to look this good!)

Dally