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Mathilda Jane wrote:
nimue wrote in message news:4bKeb.12943
Yes -- it DOES check for that, but it ONLY in between two words
WITHIN the same sentence. It does NOT see two spaces in between two
sentences as an error. My computer uses the default settings, btw.

Wrong. It checks spaces between sentences.

Go to your Word and look under toolsoptionsspelling and
grammargrammar settings and you will clearly see an option to check
for SPACES BETWEEN SENTENCES - with options for 1, 2 or don't check.

Found it. It is default-set to Don't Check, not to 1, as you said. This is
MY computer, and TRUST ME, I never messed with the default settings. There
has to be a reason it's set to Don't Check and not, as you seem to think it
is, set to put little green squiggly lines under more than one space.
Hmmmm.

Mathilda

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nimue

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that not only are they underdogs, they are underdogs who accept other
underdogs unconditionally. And that speaks volumes to people."

Curtis Armstrong

"I don't understand why you don't want to see more of Spike. More
Spike makes everything better. Spike, Spike, Spike, wonderful Spike."
Clairel

"There are things I will not tolerate: students loitering on campus
after school, horrible murders with hearts being removed... and also
smoking." Principal Snyder

Mathilda Jane wrote:
The Queen of Cans and Jars wrote in message
since i've got a waist-high stack of books to get to before i'd even
consider it, i don't think there's much danger of it getting anywhere
near the top of my list

i believe i've seen reference to it somewhere before, possibly on the
boards at www.chicklit.com, and the general consensus seemed to be
that it was a horrible book.

It's a very short story about change, but the book was one of the top
business best sellers of recent years. But since change is something
you apparently fear, you probably wouldn't like it.

It is SO BADLY WRITTEN! Ugh! Gag! Yack! It was a best seller -- I have
heard it recommended many times -- and was shocked at how bad it was.

Mathilda

--
nimue

"Because the thing about the Nerds, what made them so appealing, was
that not only are they underdogs, they are underdogs who accept other
underdogs unconditionally. And that speaks volumes to people."

Curtis Armstrong

"I don't understand why you don't want to see more of Spike. More
Spike makes everything better. Spike, Spike, Spike, wonderful Spike."
Clairel

"There are things I will not tolerate: students loitering on campus
after school, horrible murders with hearts being removed... and also
smoking." Principal Snyder

The Queen of Cans and Jars wrote:
Mathilda Jane wrote:

Absolute statements ... you mean like the one you just made above
about "most books...?"

perhaps you'd care to illustrate exactly how using a qualifier like
"most" equates to me making an absolute statement.

I was wondering that myself.

c'mon, you clearly don't have anything better to do. lay it down for
me, sister.

--
nimue

"Because the thing about the Nerds, what made them so appealing, was
that not only are they underdogs, they are underdogs who accept other
underdogs unconditionally. And that speaks volumes to people."

Curtis Armstrong

"I don't understand why you don't want to see more of Spike. More
Spike makes everything better. Spike, Spike, Spike, wonderful Spike."
Clairel

"There are things I will not tolerate: students loitering on campus
after school, horrible murders with hearts being removed... and also
smoking." Principal Snyder

Jean B. wrote:
Mathilda Jane wrote:

nimue wrote in message news:4bKeb.12943
Yes -- it DOES check for that, but it ONLY in between two words
WITHIN the same sentence. It does NOT see two spaces in between
two sentences as an error. My computer uses the default settings,
btw.

Wrong. It checks spaces between sentences.

Go to your Word and look under toolsoptionsspelling and
grammargrammar settings and you will clearly see an option to
check for SPACES BETWEEN SENTENCES - with options for 1, 2 or don't
check.

Mathilda

And what does that prove? Only that it is an option to have one
or two spaces. What a tedious thread.

Well -- I DID learn there was an option, so it's not a total loss. However,
MJ did originally write that it was default set to one space -- I guess she
said that to justify her claim -- but it most certainly is not default set
to one space.

--
nimue

"Because the thing about the Nerds, what made them so appealing, was
that not only are they underdogs, they are underdogs who accept other
underdogs unconditionally. And that speaks volumes to people."

Curtis Armstrong

"I don't understand why you don't want to see more of Spike. More
Spike makes everything better. Spike, Spike, Spike, wonderful Spike."
Clairel

"There are things I will not tolerate: students loitering on campus
after school, horrible murders with hearts being removed... and also
smoking." Principal Snyder

Mathilda Jane wrote:

snip
Read the book called, "Who Moved My Cheese."


That is one mean-spirited smug little book. The only people
I've seen rave about it are people who have to lay-off (fire,
RIF, terminate, make redundant) other people. It seems to
give the ones doing the firing some comfort, since it says
that only stupid people are overwhelmed by the loss of
employment.

April.
Put out the cat.
[I read the book after I had realized I wasn't going to
find work where I wanted to, and had already found very
good work elsewhere. It reaffirmed my choice, but it
was certainly not something I would have given to people
at "home" who were still in mourning (& in shock) from
the hatchet job that had been done on our dept.]
--
"Things that try to look like things often do look more
like things than things. Well known fact."
Esmerelda Weatherwax (Pratchett 1988)

nimue wrote:

The Queen of Cans and Jars wrote:
Mathilda Jane wrote:

Absolute statements ... you mean like the one you just made above
about "most books...?"

perhaps you'd care to illustrate exactly how using a qualifier like
"most" equates to me making an absolute statement.

I was wondering that myself.

all generalizations are wrong, you know.

Mistress LaMorte wrote:

Mmmmm I love the look of rivers in justified text, oh and the islands —
swoon.

they are beautiful sometimes, aren't they? i'm glad i'm not the only
one who notices these kinds of things

Mathilda Jane wrote:
M.W. Smith wrote in message

I don't understand who you mean was searching for the end of the
sentence. I never associated the two spaces at the end of a sentence
with searching. I don't think it had anything to do with searching.


The only reason two spaces were used was to help people find the end of a
sentence in paragraphs of typewriter text. It helped the end stand out
amongst the extra space between letters.

I don't understand your point. Who was looking for the ends of
sentences? What did they do with them when they found them?

I was taught in my typewriting class to use two spaces at the end of a
sentence to provide a wider spacing between sentences than between
words, which is *more* important in the age of proportional fonts, not
less.


We all learned two spaces in school. Some people are just more willing to
change with the times.

Yes, well, the thing is that I have worked in the computer industry
since long before the advent of proportional fonts, so I have changed
quite a lot more than you have. Two spaces is more visually appealing
than one between sentences. That's why you can do it either way.

One space is one space, whether it is between two words or between a

punctuation mark

and a word. Two spaces is a bigger space.


Very good.


The advent of proportional fonts doesn't outdate the use of two spaces
between sentences.


Yes, it does. Look around you - books, magazines, Web pages. Anything
printed professionally only uses one space. Because two are not needed.

That doesn't even make sense, since, by your own argument, the space is
proportional. You will find that the space between sentences and between
words varies quite a lot, particularly when right and left justification
are both used. So saying there is one space between two sentences is the
same as saying there is some space between sentences.

You never had to use two spaces in any case, but it
still has its use, just like double spacing lines and/or paragraphs and
indenting paragraphs.


Not in the professional world.

I *am* in the professional world. Where are you?

Yes, thanks. It proves that two spaces between sentences is still more
readable.


You honestly don't think book, newspaper and magazine publishers would have
done research prior to moving to one space to see if readability decreased?
Why on earth would book sellers go to one space if it meant people would
have trouble reading (hence, buying) their product? That's absolutely
insane.

Insane? Thanks. Now we know you're not in the professional world.

martin

On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 20:58:40 -0400, "Mathilda Jane"
wrote:

Books have one space periods, not two. Same with magazines, newspapers and
web sites.

Stop making blanket statements about websites. You're not correct,
*most* websites, if you please.

Karen Rodgers

**********
Windbourne, folk singers of the future
http://www.windbourne.com/
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On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:15:23 -0400, "Mathilda Jane"
wrote:

Mistress LaMorte wrote in message
Umm never use two spaces for anything you want printed.
I think even microsoft word catches that no no at spell check.

Yes, you're right - MS word catches the error. Macromedia Dreamweaver, a
very popular professional Web publishing tool, won't allow it either.

Bull, I use Dreamweaver. I can get the double space out of it, it's
easy. All you have to do is know how to code html. Oh, yeah, with
all these "smart" editors around, people don't need to know what
they're doing with html, either.

Karen Rodgers

**********
Windbourne, folk singers of the future
http://www.windbourne.com/
remove "_rice_" from my email address
**********