Food Pyramid for Weight Loss

One effective way to track your weight - whether you want to gain or
lose weight - is through the Food Pyramid. The Food Pyramid is a
classic food and dieting guide, taught to us as early as when we were
kids. Sadly, the Food Pyramid has been set aside in lieu of other
(unhealthy) diet options. Nowadays, people are coming back and looking
at the Food Pyramid for weight loss answers.
Food Pyramid basics
The Food Pyramid was created by the US FDA to serve as an eating guide
for everyone. Simply put, the Food Pyramid indicates how much amount
of food from each category (fruits, dairy, protein, etc.) you have to
eat each day in order to have a healthy lifestyle.
Today, however, the US FDA has released an updated version of the Food
Pyramid, known as MyPyramid. MyPyramid breaks down the food intake
accordingly:
? 5+ servings a day of vegetables, especially dark green vegetables
and orange vegetables.
? 5+ servings of fruit a day are required, especially fresh and frozen
fruits.
? 2-3 servings of meat, poultry, fish, beans, eggs, or nuts a day,
especially dry bean and peas, eggs, and nut and seeds....

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" writes:

One effective way to track your weight - whether you want to gain or
lose weight - is through the Food Pyramid.

If you're trying to gain weight, diabetes, and heart disease, sure.

The Food Pyramid is a classic food and dieting guide, taught to us as
early as when we were kids.

Classic? Am I really that old, that I remember being taught the ancient
Four Food Groups?

Sadly, the Food Pyramid has been set aside in lieu of other
(unhealthy) diet options. Nowadays, people are coming back and looking
at the Food Pyramid for weight loss answers.

Man, it sounds like the Food Pyramid was first handed down on stone
tablets or something.



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Aaron Baugher wrote:
" writes:

One effective way to track your weight - whether you want to gain or
lose weight - is through the Food Pyramid.

If you're trying to gain weight, diabetes, and heart disease, sure.

It is indeed the plan used by Japanese sumo wrestlers. And it is
also how pigs are fattened for slaughter.

The Food Pyramid is a classic food and dieting guide, taught to us as
early as when we were kids.

Classic? *Am I really that old, that I remember being taught the ancient
Four Food Groups?

It came out in 1993. Given that I graduated high school in 1976
I hardly think the pig-fattening-pyramid is a classic. As to the
"four food groups" is was taught at least as far back as when I
was in elementary school in the 1960s but that hardly means it
is valid. Doctors bled patients for centuries and that wasn't valid
either. One of the four food groups is livestock fodder.

There is an entertaining aspect to both the sumo-wrestler-pyramid
and the four groups - Both list fruits and veggies together as one
group yet people complain that going fruit-free for 3 entire weeks
at the start of Atkins is some sort of health risk. Like I had fruit
every 3 weeks before I started eating healthy? Pffft. And that
doesn't even count the fact that cucumbers are encouraged from
day 1 as salad veggies and they are fruit ...

Doug Freyburger writes:

Aaron Baugher wrote:
" writes:

One effective way to track your weight - whether you want to gain or
lose weight - is through the Food Pyramid.

If you're trying to gain weight, diabetes, and heart disease, sure.

It is indeed the plan used by Japanese sumo wrestlers. And it is also
how pigs are fattened for slaughter.

Yep; I fattened a lot of them when I was younger, and the rations worked
how we'd expect. Butcher hogs being fattened got all the corn they
wanted and a certain amount of protein/fat/mineral supplement for
health. Breeding stock, that needs to stay healthy and at a stable
weight for much longer, gets a lot more of the supplement and a
restricted amount of corn. Not that it's a low-carb diet by any
means--no farmer could afford to feed them that--but when you don't want
them gaining weight, you cut the carbs and increase protein.

I've been wondering, in the context of pasture-raised meat having
healthier fats than grain-fed, what can be done in that regard with
hogs. Their biology is a lot like ours; they can't process the
cellulose in grass like beef and sheep do. I hope to be raising some in
a couple years, so I'll have to see what I can do along those lines.

The Food Pyramid is a classic food and dieting guide, taught to us
as early as when we were kids.

Classic? *Am I really that old, that I remember being taught the
ancient Four Food Groups?

It came out in 1993. Given that I graduated high school in 1976 I
hardly think the pig-fattening-pyramid is a classic. As to the "four
food groups" is was taught at least as far back as when I was in
elementary school in the 1960s but that hardly means it is valid.
Doctors bled patients for centuries and that wasn't valid either. One
of the four food groups is livestock fodder.

Yeah, the Four Food Groups is better than the Food Pyramid the way
getting hit with a brick is better than getting hit with a bus: neither
one is any good for you. I just thought it was funny that they'd call a
14-year-old diet recommendation "classic."

There is an entertaining aspect to both the sumo-wrestler-pyramid
and the four groups - Both list fruits and veggies together as one
group yet people complain that going fruit-free for 3 entire weeks
at the start of Atkins is some sort of health risk. Like I had fruit
every 3 weeks before I started eating healthy? Pffft. And that
doesn't even count the fact that cucumbers are encouraged from
day 1 as salad veggies and they are fruit ...

Taubes makes a good point that a lot of the "you must get a *variety* of
fruits *and* vegetables" belief seems to come from the early part of the
century, when many diseases like pellagra and scurvy were traced to
vitamin and mineral deficiency. When those vitamins were isolated in
various fruits and vegetables, people latched onto the idea that eating
a variety of those foods would help cover the bases.

Of course, as Taubes points out, Inuit and others on a meat-only diet
don't get scurvy, which is thought to be caused by lack of vitamin C
because taking vitamin C cures it. Conventional wisdom tries to get
around that by claiming meat has "something" which acts like vitamin C,
but it could also be that scurvy is caused by excess grain in the first
place, so it can be cured with vitamin C *or* just removing the grain.



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Aaron Baugher wrote:

I've been wondering, in the context of pasture-raised meat having
healthier fats than grain-fed, what can be done in that regard with
hogs. Their biology is a lot like ours; they can't process the
cellulose in grass like beef and sheep do. I hope to be raising some in
a couple years, so I'll have to see what I can do along those lines.

Pigs are healthier raised on pasture also. The problem is that you have
to ring their noses to keep them tearing up the pasture entirely. And
you can't raise them *well* on *just* pasture as they're not ruminants.

IMO, the best way to raise pigs is on pasture, supplemented with all the
extra skim milk leftover from butter and cheesemaking and such, extra
eggs, extras from the veggie garden, and kitchen scraps.

Extras from fruit and nut trees would be good too. Ideally, you'd let
them clean up the orchard and woodlot when you were done harvesting for
yourself.

In short, if you have a milk cow, a few hens and a garden, you can raise
a pig or two just as a way to use up the extras and they're going to
have a much more varied and healthy diet than animals raised en masse
for profit.

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Jackie Patti wrote:
Aaron Baugher wrote:

I've been wondering, in the context of pasture-raised meat having
healthier fats than grain-fed, what can be done in that regard with
hogs. *Their biology is a lot like ours; they can't process the
cellulose in grass like beef and sheep do. *I hope to be raising some in
a couple years, so I'll have to see what I can do along those lines.

Omega-3 chicken eggs cost more. The chickens are fed flax
seeds mixed into their grain. I've never heard of anyone feeding
pigs flax seed to improve the ratio of fatty acids in their fat but
my guess is it should work. It's a wild guess not an educated
guess in this case.

Pigs are healthier raised on pasture also. *The problem is that you have
to ring their noses to keep them tearing up the pasture entirely. *And
you can't raise them *well* on *just* pasture as they're not ruminants.

Pigs instinctively dig up roots so a grass pasture can be destroyed
by pigs. But put them in a "tree pasture" (that's called "woods",
right?
;^) and they will dig up weeds, nuts, sapplings, wild carrots and
such.
Maybe even the occasional truffle.

Extras from fruit and nut trees would be good too. *Ideally, you'd let
them clean up the orchard and woodlot when you were done harvesting for
yourself.

It seems to be their native habitat. An oak forrest to supply then
acorns
should have them healthy but with very strong tasting meat.

Doug Freyburger writes:

Jackie Patti wrote:
Aaron Baugher wrote:

I've been wondering, in the context of pasture-raised meat having
healthier fats than grain-fed, what can be done in that regard with
hogs. *Their biology is a lot like ours; they can't process the
cellulose in grass like beef and sheep do. *I hope to be raising
some in a couple years, so I'll have to see what I can do along
those lines.

Omega-3 chicken eggs cost more. The chickens are fed flax
seeds mixed into their grain. I've never heard of anyone feeding
pigs flax seed to improve the ratio of fatty acids in their fat but
my guess is it should work. It's a wild guess not an educated
guess in this case.

Pigs are healthier raised on pasture also. *The problem is that you
have to ring their noses to keep them tearing up the pasture
entirely. *And you can't raise them *well* on *just* pasture as
they're not ruminants.

Yeah, if they aren't ringed, they need a ton of room to roam or they'll
destroy every living thing in a hurry. Even with a lot of space,
they'll root in a pasture for grubs, worms, or fun. Putting rings in
their noses isn't much fun, but it's a lot more humane than keeping them
in concrete pens.

I did some reading this weekend, and it seems that when people feed pigs
a lot of oil or meat products like fish scraps, their fat tends to be
"soft" and doesn't make good bacon or lard. I take that to mean it's
higher in unsaturated fat (and maybe omega-3s?) than grain-fed pork.
Farmers typically move them to a grain-only ration for the last couple
weeks before slaughter, to "harden" the fat. So there might be a choice
between healthy-enough saturated fat that preserves well, or healthier
fat that's less convenient. Something to research more, and to
experiment with when I raise some.

I also found out that older pigs (over 100 pounds or so) actually will
eat a lot of grass and other forage, and get quite a bit of good out of
it. Not enough to live on pasture alone, like you say, but enough to
reduce their grain consumption something like 30%, as I recall.

Pigs instinctively dig up roots so a grass pasture can be destroyed
by pigs. But put them in a "tree pasture" (that's called "woods",
right?
;^) and they will dig up weeds, nuts, sapplings, wild carrots and
such.
Maybe even the occasional truffle.

And the occasional tree. They'll eventually kill out the trees, from
rooting around them and chewing on the bark. That's handy, if you want
to clear some scrub timber; but otherwise, they can't be left in one
area for too long.

Extras from fruit and nut trees would be good too. *Ideally, you'd
let them clean up the orchard and woodlot when you were done
harvesting for yourself.

It seems to be their native habitat. An oak forrest to supply then
acorns should have them healthy but with very strong tasting meat.

Yeah, they love acorns and other nuts. Those supposedly make their fat
"soft" too, which makes sense.



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Aaron Baugher wrote:
And the occasional tree. They'll eventually kill out the trees, from
rooting around them and chewing on the bark. That's handy, if you want
to clear some scrub timber; but otherwise, they can't be left in one
area for too long.

This is an idea I have had for clearing land.

After removing the worthwhile lumber, raise a batch of unringed pigs on
it for a year to clear out the stumps. I suspect they'd raise just fine
with just garden and kitchen scraps to supplement, maybe some grain if
that turned out to not be quite enough. If they weren't enthusiastic
enough about the stumps, you might drill them and fill the holes with
molasses to make them more tempting.

Might take a bit longer to get them to market weight, but it seems to me
you get the pigs to clear the land for you and have a pork crop to sell
on top of it. Should be pretty fertile by then too for either using as
pasture or row crops or whatever.

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