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More about the importance of diet, and the dangers of resorting to drugs.
http://blog.sethroberts.net/2012/07/...ruth/#comments "His gastroenterologist (and probably several other doctors) failed to tell him that his digestive problem might be due to eating the wrong foods. It is as if an astronomer fails to understand — or at least tell his students — that the earth is round. "It is equally interesting that someone smart enough to write for the New York Times fails to figure this out for himself. How strange that a food writer would not connect food and health — someone else had to draw his attention to the possibility. Although Bittman praises Dr. Baker, you are not going to figure out what foods are bad by adding things, such as licorice pills, to your diet. Dr. Baker failed to understand this obvious point, which Bittman still fails to see, apparently. Bittman should be utterly astonished by this mountain of avoiding the obvious, including his own." Hmmmnnn. Maybe people like Dr. Baker, Mr. Bittman, and our own little Trader Boy (aka "The Pusher Man"), are more concerned with how their DRUG stock portfolios are doing, than your health? Have a health problem? Look to your diet first; then, and only then, should you consider a drug. Humans survived for millions of years with nary a scientist or physician in sight. -- Dogman "I have approximate answers and possible beliefs in different degrees of certainty about different things, but I'm not absolutely sure of anything" - Richard Feynman |
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Dogman wrote:
http://blog.sethroberts.net/2012/07/...ruth/#comments "His gastroenterologist (and probably several other doctors) failed to tell him that his digestive problem might be due to eating the wrong foods. It is as if an astronomer fails to understand — or at least tell his students — that the earth is round. "It is equally interesting that someone smart enough to write for the New York Times fails to figure this out for himself. How strange that a food writer would not connect food and health — someone else had to draw his attention to the possibility. Although Bittman praises Dr. Baker, you are not going to figure out what foods are bad by adding things, such as licorice pills, to your diet. Dr. Baker failed to understand this obvious point, which Bittman still fails to see, apparently. Bittman should be utterly astonished by this mountain of avoiding the obvious, including his own." Hmmmnnn. Maybe people like Dr. Baker, Mr. Bittman, and our own little Trader Boy (aka "The Pusher Man"), are more concerned with how their DRUG stock portfolios are doing, than your health? That's how the allopathic medicine model works. Address issues with drugs and surgery. It's the most successful medicne model ever by a huge margin so it's tught almost to exclusion. We have run up against the limits of the allopathic model. Those of us on this newsgroup and others know that, not often in these exact terms. Have a health problem? Look to your diet first; then, and only then, should you consider a drug. Humans survived for millions of years with nary a scientist or physician in sight. Given the success of the allopathic approach it makes sense to try it first. It also makes sense to know it's limits, like dietary causation. |
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On Tue, 31 Jul 2012 19:17:28 +0000 (UTC), Doug Freyburger
wrote: [...] Have a health problem? Look to your diet first; then, and only then, should you consider a drug. Humans survived for millions of years with nary a scientist or physician in sight. Given the success of the allopathic approach it makes sense to try it first. It also makes sense to know it's limits, like dietary causation. As Dirty Harry used to say, "A man's gotta know his limitations." While it make take some time, some critical thinking (that leaves you out, huh, Trader Boy), and some self-experimentation to figure out how one's diet may be affecting one's health, for better or worse, failure to do so can easily result in needless disease and suffering, and even your premature DEATH. -- Dogman "I have approximate answers and possible beliefs in different degrees of certainty about different things, but I'm not absolutely sure of anything" - Richard Feynman |
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On Jul 31, 4:42*pm, Dogman wrote:
On Tue, 31 Jul 2012 19:17:28 +0000 (UTC), Doug Freyburger wrote: [...] Have a health problem? Look to your diet first; then, and only then, should you consider a drug. Humans survived for millions of years with nary a scientist or physician in sight. Given the success of the allopathic approach it makes sense to try it first. *It also makes sense to know it's limits, like dietary causation. |
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On Aug 2, 3:08*pm, Dogman wrote:
On Thu, 2 Aug 2012 06:34:51 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: [...] While it make take some time, some critical thinking (that leaves you out, huh, Trader Boy), and some self-experimentation to figure out how one's diet may be affecting one's health, for better or worse, failure to do so can easily result in needless disease and suffering, and even your premature DEATH. If you knew your limitation Dogman, you wouldn't be posting anything to do with medicine. Dogman's beliefs: You bet! *Thanks for the credit! Mostly, yes. Which is why it's almost impossible to find the *actual* virus in any person with AIDS. A good example of a huge big denialist lie. In probably 99.999% of AIDS cases, the actual virus is never even looked for, much less found. *Only the *antibodies* are found! Yes indeed. Just like in 99.999% of hepatitis cases the actual virus is never looked for. So, to believe your nonsense, that disease is also not caused by the hepatitis virus. This nonsense may fool some people, who are clueless, which is the denialist objective, but not here, not today. The truth is antibody testing is a very routine way to diagnose many diseases and that it is used in diagnosing HIV infection is nothing unusual. Anyone with doubts can just google "antibody testing", "antibody testing hepatitis", "antibody testing syphilis", etc As for looking for the actual virus, in the case of AIDS, we do have tests that measure the actual amount of virus in the patients body. And we've seen a direct and consistent correlation. The higher the viral load, the more advanced the AIDS is, ie the worse the patient is doing. Patients with very low or unmeasurable levels of the virus, eg those on HIV drug therapy, are healthy. That is the real science. So, stop with the lies and pretending anything you spew is grounded in science. AIDS is caused by poor diet, not enough sleep, recreational drug use, or too much sex This is something that anyone can test on him/herself. Any takers? That exact experiment has been performed for 30 years and continues to be performed today. We have study after study of recreational drug users, prostitutes, gay men, hemophiliacs, blood transfusion recipients. And all say exactly the same thing. Absent HIV infection people in those groups do not get AIDS despite having exactly the same set of risk factors. The only problem is the denialists just refuse to acknowledge that those studies even exist. Here one more time is a link to NIH where they list study after study with references so you can go LOOK AT THE ACTUAL STUDY. http://www.niaid.nih.gov/topics/hiva...ausesaids.aspx And of course, the denialists have no studies of their own to support their idiotic "lack of sleep and nutrition causes AIDS" theories. Where is that study? Crickets...... |
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On Fri, 3 Aug 2012 07:11:46 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote: [...] Mostly, yes. Which is why it's almost impossible to find the *actual* virus in any person with AIDS. A good example of a huge big denialist lie. In probably 99.999% of AIDS cases, the actual virus is never even looked for, much less found. *Only the *antibodies* are found! Yes indeed. Just like in 99.999% of hepatitis cases the actual virus is never looked for. Nor is it ever found. Very similar to HIV, HCV is probably a "passenger" virus, that rears it's ugly head only after a certain amount of damage has been done to the liver, from abusing drugs, alcohol, etc. http://www.healtoronto.com/hepc.html As for looking for the actual virus, in the case of AIDS, we do have tests that measure the actual amount of virus in the patients body. No, we do not. But most importantly, they're extremely rarely used anyway, relying instead on antibody tests and clinical observations. We're killing all these people simply because of antibody tests! AIDS is caused by poor diet, not enough sleep, recreational drug use, or too much sex This is something that anyone can test on him/herself. Any takers? That exact experiment has been performed for 30 years and continues to be performed today. Yes, people continue to live the drug-abusive lifestyle, have promiscuous male sex with hundreds of partners a month, take AIDS drugs, etc., and they continue to die. Some "experiment," eh? The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. We have study after study of recreational drug users, prostitutes, gay men, hemophiliacs, blood transfusion recipients. And all say exactly the same thing. Absent HIV infection people in those groups do not get AIDS despite having exactly the same set of risk factors. The vast majority of smokers never get lung cancer. Thus, some people who live this lifestyle can survive longer than others can. But if they live it long enough, burning the candle at both ends, etc., they will eventually destroy their immune systems -- and die. Either from their lifestyle, lack of nutrition, or from being given AIDS drugs. You abuse your immune system at your own risk. -- Dogman "I have approximate answers and possible beliefs in different degrees of certainty about different things, but I'm not absolutely sure of anything" - Richard Feynman |
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