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A nice little afternoon snack
"Cubit" wrote:
When you consider that sperm from different males actively compete, when in the same test-tube, we might deduce that our ancestors were very naughty. Various studies show roughly 5% of children are raised by fathers who don't know they aren't the biological father (varies by study and by economic status within study so the 5% is only a rough average). It seems our current population is as well. Hunter gatherer societies don't have locking doors or any other method for keeping women from having sex outside of marriage, and it's clear from that 5% thing that that phase of hundreds of thousands of years still dominates our evolution. |
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A nice little afternoon snack
Cubit wrote:
:: Well, in the book, the Bonobo modified humans hibernate. :: :: When you consider that sperm from different males actively compete, :: when in the same test-tube, we might deduce that our ancestors were :: very naughty. Don't the sperms from the same male compete, each tying to be the "seed"? :: :: :: :: "Bobo Bonobo®" wrote in message :: ps.com... ::: On Nov 12, 5:36 pm, "Cubit" wrote: :::: Hmmm. Quite! :::: :::: They also hibernate for part of the year. ::: ::: Bonobos don't hibernate, silly. The chimpanzees and bonobos are our ::: closest relatives. The chimps went the direction of violence and ::: male domination. The bonobos are matriarchal and there is no sexual ::: ownership, and very little violence. ::: In a way, they represent the dichotomy of human patriarchy and a ::: mostly untested ideal. Volunteering to be a test subject sounds ::: fun, no? :::: :::: "BlueBrooke" .@. wrote in message :::: :::: ... :::: ::::: On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:31:58 -0800, "Cubit" wrote: :::: :::::: I've been reading a book called "thirteen" in which there are :::::: people genetically modified with Bonobo genes. They are women :::::: who are quiet promiscuous. :::: ::::: So they aren't screamers, then? Thank goodness! ::: ::: Quietly promiscuous is the best way to be promiscuous. I've often ::: said, "Guys who kiss and tell end up doing a lot more telling than ::: kissing." ::: ::: Now playing: Dylan - Obviously 5 Believers :::: ::::: -- ::::: BlueBrooke ::::: 254/225/135 ::: ::: --Bryan |
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A nice little afternoon snack
In same males it seems to be a horse race. With different males there is
actual combat between sperm, if I remember the PBS special correctly. "Roger Zoul" wrote in message ... Cubit wrote: :: Well, in the book, the Bonobo modified humans hibernate. :: :: When you consider that sperm from different males actively compete, :: when in the same test-tube, we might deduce that our ancestors were :: very naughty. Don't the sperms from the same male compete, each tying to be the "seed"? :: :: :: :: "Bobo Bonobo®" wrote in message :: ps.com... ::: On Nov 12, 5:36 pm, "Cubit" wrote: :::: Hmmm. Quite! :::: :::: They also hibernate for part of the year. ::: ::: Bonobos don't hibernate, silly. The chimpanzees and bonobos are our ::: closest relatives. The chimps went the direction of violence and ::: male domination. The bonobos are matriarchal and there is no sexual ::: ownership, and very little violence. ::: In a way, they represent the dichotomy of human patriarchy and a ::: mostly untested ideal. Volunteering to be a test subject sounds ::: fun, no? :::: :::: "BlueBrooke" .@. wrote in message :::: :::: ... :::: ::::: On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:31:58 -0800, "Cubit" wrote: :::: :::::: I've been reading a book called "thirteen" in which there are :::::: people genetically modified with Bonobo genes. They are women :::::: who are quiet promiscuous. :::: ::::: So they aren't screamers, then? Thank goodness! ::: ::: Quietly promiscuous is the best way to be promiscuous. I've often ::: said, "Guys who kiss and tell end up doing a lot more telling than ::: kissing." ::: ::: Now playing: Dylan - Obviously 5 Believers :::: ::::: -- ::::: BlueBrooke ::::: 254/225/135 ::: ::: --Bryan |
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A nice little afternoon snack
"Roger Zoul" wrote:
Don't the sperms from the same male compete, each tying to be the "seed"? "Cubit" writes: In same males it seems to be a horse race. With different males there is actual combat between sperm, if I remember the PBS special correctly. That's my understanding too, although from other sources than PBS: that something like 90% of sperm aren't designed to fertilize eggs, but are built for combat with foreign sperm. I don't know if it's the case with all animals, or just humans. I just picked up the book "Sperm Wars," which I think gets into this in detail, but it's still in my to-read pile. -- Aaron -- 285/254/200 -- aaron.baugher.biz |
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A nice little afternoon snack
"Aaron Baugher" wrote in message "Roger Zoul" wrote: Don't the sperms from the same male compete, each tying to be the "seed"? "Cubit" writes: In same males it seems to be a horse race. With different males there is actual combat between sperm, if I remember the PBS special correctly. That's my understanding too, although from other sources than PBS: that something like 90% of sperm aren't designed to fertilize eggs, but are built for combat with foreign sperm. I don't know if it's the case with all animals, or just humans. I just picked up the book "Sperm Wars," which I think gets into this in detail, but it's still in my to-read pile. Interesting stuff. Thanks. |
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