RAFL week 9 - Prairie Roots

The running joke in our house is "look, Kohl's is having a sale".

I think that they purposely raise their prices so that they can get people
to come to their sales. Its a mind game. Otherwise their prices are too high
for us.

"Joyce" wrote in message
...
Wow Deb, that is amazing! Our Kohl's has fantastic sale prices that seem
to run
all the time. Regular prices are high if compared to Wal-mart - but
quality is
better and all are higher brand names. But you can't beat their
constantly
running sales. How odd that it would be so different in other localities.

Joyce

On Tue, 9 Mar 2004 18:47:13 -0800, "Deb in Northern California"
wrote:

We had a Kohl's open in our town last week. This was the first wave of
stores to open in Nor Cal. I was very disappointed in the store and the
quality of merchandise and the prices were on the high side as far as I
was
concerned. But that is just my observation of going there last night and
looking for a strapless bra for my youngest daughter. $30+ for a bra
that
hold barely anything. She is a 34A.

Debbie

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Yup, definitely younger category ... you are the same age as our oldest
girl
(she'll be 30 in June). She also loves Gap, Banana Republic, Eddie
Bauer,
Express, etc. To me, the *normal* prices at all these stores are too
expensive.
Again, probably an age thing. What I think is expensive, she thinks is
reasonable. G I'm more of a Kohl's/Penney's type shopper. G

Joyce

On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 19:16:46 -0600, "skiur"
wrote:

I'll be thirty this year, so I guess I qualify in the younger
category.
I'm
also all of 5 ft 3 in and my torso seems to be proportioned--I
wouldn't
know
since it's been submerged under the weight for so long.

It's certainly clearance time. We'll be going to Banana Republic for
dh
soon...I have a feeling sweaters will be inexpensive soon. Last year
we
got
him cashmere/silk blends for $7/ea.

Julie, who loves to get great bargains on clothing.


"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
I did buy one pair of Gap jeans on clearance, was a great deal for
$10.
You will
get into that XL shirt. If you're younger, you probably don't mind
those
shorter
styles anyway. My problem is that all my height is from the waist
up -
so
shirts
that are cut to hit at the waist normally, will hit me even higher
up.
Not a
pretty picture on this old lady. G I did find some terrific buys
after
Christmas ... mens cotton sweaters, marked down to $6. These were
cut
so
short, I
can't imagine any man wearing them. But they fit me perfectly, and
are
just plain
unisex styling. Guess it's time once again to check out the
clearance
racks. I
found out today that what few hooded sweatshirts I have, are all
size L
(mens) ...
much too big. This should be the right time to pick stuff up
cheaply.

Joyce

On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 10:44:48 -0600, "skiur"
wrote:

No, but on clearance they are very attractive. I have a shirt from
the
Gap
that I bought specifically as a NSV clothing shirt. I paid $1.99
for
it.
I
do hope to get into it at some point, it's an XL.

Julie


"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
I do have two pairs of jeans from the gap, but they don't seem to
fit
as
well as
these others I have found. They fit *ok* and are acceptable ...
except
for the
price. G Shirts at the Gap are definitely made for younger
females,
those with
little to no chest factor. G Even my 105 pound daughter has to
take
a
medium
there. They seem to be cut small and short ... not good options
for
women
with
longer body lengths.

Joyce

On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 15:01:04 -0600, "skiur"
wrote:

Have you been to the Gap? I know they are more expensive, but
if
they
fit
right....

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
I tend to have the same thing, hard to stay focused 100% of
the
time
when
everyone
is fussing over us. I find I kind of relax just a little too
much.
G
But,
that's ok too - sometimes you just have to relax, as long as
we
don't
make
it a
forever thing.

I have a tough time with jeans too, had someone the other day
tell
me
to
try the
junior sizing (yeah, right, sure - not gonna happen unless I
want
to
totally
humiliate myself). Relaxed fit is too big in the legs, hips
and
thighs -
look
like clown pants on me. I have a pair of carpenter pants on
today,
size 6
and
very baggy. I could take a 4 in these and probably still have
a
bit
of
room to
spare - they don't come in 4's. In lower rise jeans I seem to
need
a
smaller size
than in regular cut higher waist - the waist is too snug for
my
liking
and
I do
like to be able to breath. I haven't tried the Gloria
Vanderbilt
jeans,
always
made the assumption that those *designer* names wouldn't work
for
me -
maybe I
will give them a try as I saw some cute capri's in a sales ad
this
week.
I found
a new one that does fit me well though, only ones in the Lee
brand
that
aren't
baggy in the legs ... they have a *one true fit* or something
like
that -
fits me
very nicely ... everywhere. Same with the Levi Nouveau but I
forget
which
number
(why do they assign the styles numbers???). The levi's have a
little
stretch to
them, great in the waist but tend to get a tad baggy in the
seat
after
a
few
hours. Oh well, I like the baggy better than the constant
snug I
used
to
deal
with. g Shirts are an entirely different story with me -
range
anywhere
from a
small to a large, depending on the store and brand. I have no
cl
ue.

Joyce

On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 11:13:37 -0600, Prairie Roots

wrote:

Thanks Joyce. I got a lot of compliments and attention at
work
this
week regarding my weight loss, people saying things about how
confident I appear, that I have a more positive attitude, and
just
plain look great. I think my head got a little puffed up from
all
the
compliments and that's what started all the other crazy
thinking.

It's hard to find jeans that fit me. The ubiquitous relaxed
fit
jeans
don't work for me; I carry my weight in my tummy, not my hips
and
thighs. Of all the brands I've tried, Gloria Vanderbilt
classic
fit
jeans fit me best. I too like a little stretch in my jeans,
makes
bending over not just a breathtaking experience. LOL But
couldn't
find
any this shopping trip and the non-stretch jeans don't cut
off
my
oxygen supply.

Thanks again for your encouragement.

Linda P

On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 09:58:12 -0600, Joyce
wrote:

Hey, taking a week of following the program and maintaining
is
fantastic! Call it
practice for the future, you've proved to yourself that it
can
be
done.
Congrats
on holding firm this week.

Wish I could help you with the sink decision ... my
decisions
are
always
to go on
the cheap side of things. G I think both times we've
replaced
the
sink, we
ended up at Builders Square (or similar home improvement
store)
and
looking at
their discards (something that someone else ordered and
couldn't/wouldn't use for
one reason or another). Many times they may have had a
little
chip
or
scratch in
the underside - nothing noticeable or functionable - but
always
at
a
great
reduction and usable. Might be something to think about or
look
into.

What a great NSV, fitting easily into those size 10 jeans,
smaller
tops
and much
smaller undergarments. I love the clothing victories (yet
still
hate
to
shop).
Where did you ever find jeans without stretch though? I
swear
that
seems to be
all that is being made these days! BUT ... don't write them
off
dear.
They are
wonderfully comfortable, and I've found rather flattering.
They
hug
ya
in all
those places we didn't use to like being hugged. G

Fight back with those other personalities of yours that are
currently
letting
themselves be heard. Do not let them put a damper on your
motivation
or
spirit.
You know why you should go further, just have to make sure
you
are
louder than
those other voices. C'mon Linda (wow, was THAT hard for me
to
say),
you
can do
it!

Joyce



On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 08:54:10 -0600, Prairie Roots

wrote:

My current weight: 159.6 lbs
Weight change since my last recorded weight: 0.0 lbs
Total weight change to date: -72.4 lbs

Today I'm grateful to see no change in my weight from last
week.
I've
been on a mental plateau this week. Hitting the 70+ total
loss
and
getting below 160 is doing a job on my motivation to keep
going.
This
is further than I expected to go; some part of me I haven't
heard
from
before is wondering why I think I should even further.

It probably didn't help that, on a whim, I tried on a
jacket
formerly
worn by one of my skinny daughters and discovered that it
fit.
I
also
went shopping for some new jeans and got into a classic fit
size
10
petite withOUT stretch. When I also discovered that the
medium
tops
fit nicely, I realized I should head over to the
foundations
department for new undergarments and give my girls a new
lift.
Since
starting WW, I've gone down from 44DD to 38D.

My food was off this week. More importantly, I didn't
exercise
even
once. I'm on a rollercoaster ride with the impending
construction
work
on my kitchen and bathroom. My current dilemma is deciding
what
kind
of kitchen sink I want and how much of my construction
budget
I
want
to spend on it. I still haven't gotten my bike. Later today
I'll
have
to call and find out if I need to get cranky. The bus
strike
started
and I'm carpooling, leaving earlier than usual and getting
home
later.
I'm starting with a new hospice patient whose health
issues. A
major
project I've been involved with at work is nearing
completion
and
morphing into an even bigger project.

All of this is to say that I took a bit of a breather from
WW
this
week to marvel at my overall progress and to focus on a few
other
pressing issues. That I ended up maintaining is a wonder.

It's the best day of my life!

Linda P
232/159.6/WW goal 145
joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

yup. Very similar in age.

Different people have different definitions of what "being good" to oneself
means. I'm not a fan of shopping so buying stuff to cover myself isn't
"being good" to myself. A few years ago, being good to myself would have
meant going out and eating whatever I wanted. After I checked out the size
of my behind, I decided there had to be a different and better way. I'm
sure you did deserve to buy something brand spanking new from a designer
store. I would have said the same thing, but now that you did it you find
it to be over rated.

A lot of people love to shop. I'm only one of them if I can find something
on a great sale and it has to be good quality too.

Julie


"Joyce" wrote in message
...
Aha! So you are within a few days/weeks of my daughters age. G See, I
never
should lump everyone into one category (such as generations) as there are
probably
more around that have common sense ... as you appear to. g But ... I
do have
to admit to shopping at the Gap on occassion, and although I haven't
purchased
anything for myself at Eddie Bauer - I do like their clothing styles.
Sometimes
we just have to splurge on ourselves. My very first *new* outfit was from
Gap. I
had not one pair of jeans left, nor any shirts and it was when I finally
reached
goal. My youngest girl told me I deserved them .. I believed her.

Joyce

On Tue, 9 Mar 2004 18:08:21 -0600, "skiur" wrote:

I think all those stores are too expensive too. I only shop there in case
of
emergency or during clearance sales.

Btw, I'm June too.

Julie
"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Yup, definitely younger category ... you are the same age as our oldest
girl
(she'll be 30 in June). She also loves Gap, Banana Republic, Eddie
Bauer,
Express, etc. To me, the *normal* prices at all these stores are too
expensive.
Again, probably an age thing. What I think is expensive, she thinks is
reasonable. G I'm more of a Kohl's/Penney's type shopper. G

Joyce

On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 19:16:46 -0600, "skiur"
wrote:

I'll be thirty this year, so I guess I qualify in the younger
category.
I'm
also all of 5 ft 3 in and my torso seems to be proportioned--I
wouldn't
know
since it's been submerged under the weight for so long.

It's certainly clearance time. We'll be going to Banana Republic for
dh
soon...I have a feeling sweaters will be inexpensive soon. Last year
we
got
him cashmere/silk blends for $7/ea.

Julie, who loves to get great bargains on clothing.


"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
I did buy one pair of Gap jeans on clearance, was a great deal for
$10.
You will
get into that XL shirt. If you're younger, you probably don't mind
those
shorter
styles anyway. My problem is that all my height is from the waist
up -
so
shirts
that are cut to hit at the waist normally, will hit me even higher
up.
Not a
pretty picture on this old lady. G I did find some terrific buys
after
Christmas ... mens cotton sweaters, marked down to $6. These were
cut
so
short, I
can't imagine any man wearing them. But they fit me perfectly, and
are
just plain
unisex styling. Guess it's time once again to check out the
clearance
racks. I
found out today that what few hooded sweatshirts I have, are all
size L
(mens) ...
much too big. This should be the right time to pick stuff up
cheaply.

Joyce

On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 10:44:48 -0600, "skiur"
wrote:

No, but on clearance they are very attractive. I have a shirt from
the
Gap
that I bought specifically as a NSV clothing shirt. I paid $1.99
for
it.
I
do hope to get into it at some point, it's an XL.

Julie


"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
I do have two pairs of jeans from the gap, but they don't seem to
fit
as
well as
these others I have found. They fit *ok* and are acceptable ...
except
for the
price. G Shirts at the Gap are definitely made for younger
females,
those with
little to no chest factor. G Even my 105 pound daughter has to
take
a
medium
there. They seem to be cut small and short ... not good options
for
women
with
longer body lengths.

Joyce

On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 15:01:04 -0600, "skiur"
wrote:

Have you been to the Gap? I know they are more expensive, but
if
they
fit
right....

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
I tend to have the same thing, hard to stay focused 100% of
the
time
when
everyone
is fussing over us. I find I kind of relax just a little too
much.
G
But,
that's ok too - sometimes you just have to relax, as long as
we
don't
make
it a
forever thing.

I have a tough time with jeans too, had someone the other day
tell
me
to
try the
junior sizing (yeah, right, sure - not gonna happen unless I
want
to
totally
humiliate myself). Relaxed fit is too big in the legs, hips
and
thighs -
look
like clown pants on me. I have a pair of carpenter pants on
today,
size 6
and
very baggy. I could take a 4 in these and probably still have
a
bit
of
room to
spare - they don't come in 4's. In lower rise jeans I seem to
need
a
smaller size
than in regular cut higher waist - the waist is too snug for
my
liking
and
I do
like to be able to breath. I haven't tried the Gloria
Vanderbilt
jeans,
always
made the assumption that those *designer* names wouldn't work
for
me -
maybe I
will give them a try as I saw some cute capri's in a sales ad
this
week.
I found
a new one that does fit me well though, only ones in the Lee
brand
that
aren't
baggy in the legs ... they have a *one true fit* or something
like
that -
fits me
very nicely ... everywhere. Same with the Levi Nouveau but I
forget
which
number
(why do they assign the styles numbers???). The levi's have a
little
stretch to
them, great in the waist but tend to get a tad baggy in the
seat
after
a
few
hours. Oh well, I like the baggy better than the constant
snug I
used
to
deal
with. g Shirts are an entirely different story with me -
range
anywhere
from a
small to a large, depending on the store and brand. I have no
clue.

Joyce

On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 11:13:37 -0600, Prairie Roots

wrote:

Thanks Joyce. I got a lot of compliments and attention at
work
this
week regarding my weight loss, people saying things about how
confident I appear, that I have a more positive attitude, and
just
plain look great. I think my head got a little puffed up from
all
the
compliments and that's what started all the other crazy
thinking.

It's hard to find jeans that fit me. The ubiquitous relaxed
fit
jeans
don't work for me; I carry my weight in my tummy, not my hips
and
thighs. Of all the brands I've tried, Gloria Vanderbilt
classic
fit
jeans fit me best. I too like a little stretch in my jeans,
makes
bending over not just a breathtaking experience. LOL But
couldn't
find
any this shopping trip and the non-stretch jeans don't cut
off
my
oxygen supply.

Thanks again for your encouragement.

Linda P

On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 09:58:12 -0600, Joyce
wrote:

Hey, taking a week of following the program and maintaining
is
fantastic! Call it
practice for the future, you've proved to yourself that it
can
be
done.
Congrats
on holding firm this week.

Wish I could help you with the sink decision ... my
decisions
are
always
to go on
the cheap side of things. G I think both times we've
replaced
the
sink, we
ended up at Builders Square (or similar home improvement
store)
and
looking at
their discards (something that someone else ordered and
couldn't/wouldn't use for
one reason or another). Many times they may have had a
little
chip
or
scratch in
the underside - nothing noticeable or functionable - but
always
at
a
great
reduction and usable. Might be something to think about or
look
into.

What a great NSV, fitting easily into those size 10 jeans,
smaller
tops
and much
smaller undergarments. I love the clothing victories (yet
still
hate
to
shop).
Where did you ever find jeans without stretch though? I
swear
that
seems to be
all that is being made these days! BUT ... don't write them
off
dear.
They are
wonderfully comfortable, and I've found rather flattering.
They
hug
ya
in all
those places we didn't use to like being hugged. G

Fight back with those other personalities of yours that are
currently
letting
themselves be heard. Do not let them put a damper on your
motivation
or
spirit.
You know why you should go further, just have to make sure
you
are
louder than
those other voices. C'mon Linda (wow, was THAT hard for me
to
say),
you
can do
it!

Joyce



On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 08:54:10 -0600, Prairie Roots

wrote:

My current weight: 159.6 lbs
Weight change since my last recorded weight: 0.0 lbs
Total weight change to date: -72.4 lbs

Today I'm grateful to see no change in my weight from last
week.
I've
been on a mental plateau this week. Hitting the 70+ total
loss
and
getting below 160 is doing a job on my motivation to keep
going.
This
is further than I expected to go; some part of me I haven't
heard
from
before is wondering why I think I should even further.

It probably didn't help that, on a whim, I tried on a
jacket
formerly
worn by one of my skinny daughters and discovered that it
fit.
I
also
went shopping for some new jeans and got into a classic fit
size
10
petite withOUT stretch. When I also discovered that the
medium
tops
fit nicely, I realized I should head over to the
foundations
department for new undergarments and give my girls a new
lift.
Since
starting WW, I've gone down from 44DD to 38D.

My food was off this week. More importantly, I didn't
exercise
even
once. I'm on a rollercoaster ride with the impending
construction
work
on my kitchen and bathroom. My current dilemma is deciding
what
kind
of kitchen sink I want and how much of my construction
budget
I
want
to spend on it. I still haven't gotten my bike. Later today
I'll
have
to call and find out if I need to get cranky. The bus
strike
started
and I'm carpooling, leaving earlier than usual and getting
home
later.
I'm starting with a new hospice patient whose health
issues. A
major
project I've been involved with at work is nearing
completion
and
morphing into an even bigger project.

All of this is to say that I took a bit of a breather from
WW
this
week to marvel at my overall progress and to focus on a few
other
pressing issues. That I ended up maintaining is a wonder.

It's the best day of my life!

Linda P
232/159.6/WW goal 145
joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

The same thing goes in my family.

Julie


"Laura" wrote in message
...
The running joke in our house is "look, Kohl's is having a sale".

I think that they purposely raise their prices so that they can get people
to come to their sales. Its a mind game. Otherwise their prices are too
high
for us.

"Joyce" wrote in message
...
Wow Deb, that is amazing! Our Kohl's has fantastic sale prices that
seem
to run
all the time. Regular prices are high if compared to Wal-mart - but
quality is
better and all are higher brand names. But you can't beat their
constantly
running sales. How odd that it would be so different in other
localities.

Joyce

On Tue, 9 Mar 2004 18:47:13 -0800, "Deb in Northern California"
wrote:

We had a Kohl's open in our town last week. This was the first wave of
stores to open in Nor Cal. I was very disappointed in the store and
the
quality of merchandise and the prices were on the high side as far as I
was
concerned. But that is just my observation of going there last night
and
looking for a strapless bra for my youngest daughter. $30+ for a bra
that
hold barely anything. She is a 34A.

Debbie

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Yup, definitely younger category ... you are the same age as our
oldest
girl
(she'll be 30 in June). She also loves Gap, Banana Republic, Eddie
Bauer,
Express, etc. To me, the *normal* prices at all these stores are too
expensive.
Again, probably an age thing. What I think is expensive, she thinks
is
reasonable. G I'm more of a Kohl's/Penney's type shopper. G

Joyce

On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 19:16:46 -0600, "skiur"
wrote:

I'll be thirty this year, so I guess I qualify in the younger
category.
I'm
also all of 5 ft 3 in and my torso seems to be proportioned--I
wouldn't
know
since it's been submerged under the weight for so long.

It's certainly clearance time. We'll be going to Banana Republic
for
dh
soon...I have a feeling sweaters will be inexpensive soon. Last
year
we
got
him cashmere/silk blends for $7/ea.

Julie, who loves to get great bargains on clothing.


"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
I did buy one pair of Gap jeans on clearance, was a great deal for
$10.
You will
get into that XL shirt. If you're younger, you probably don't
mind
those
shorter
styles anyway. My problem is that all my height is from the waist
up -
so
shirts
that are cut to hit at the waist normally, will hit me even higher
up.
Not a
pretty picture on this old lady. G I did find some terrific
buys
after
Christmas ... mens cotton sweaters, marked down to $6. These were
cut
so
short, I
can't imagine any man wearing them. But they fit me perfectly,
and
are
just plain
unisex styling. Guess it's time once again to check out the
clearance
racks. I
found out today that what few hooded sweatshirts I have, are all
size L
(mens) ...
much too big. This should be the right time to pick stuff up
cheaply.

Joyce

On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 10:44:48 -0600, "skiur"
wrote:

No, but on clearance they are very attractive. I have a shirt
from
the
Gap
that I bought specifically as a NSV clothing shirt. I paid $1.99
for
it.
I
do hope to get into it at some point, it's an XL.

Julie


"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
I do have two pairs of jeans from the gap, but they don't seem
to
fit
as
well as
these others I have found. They fit *ok* and are acceptable
....
except
for the
price. G Shirts at the Gap are definitely made for younger
females,
those with
little to no chest factor. G Even my 105 pound daughter has
to
take
a
medium
there. They seem to be cut small and short ... not good
options
for
women
with
longer body lengths.

Joyce

On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 15:01:04 -0600, "skiur"

wrote:

Have you been to the Gap? I know they are more expensive, but
if
they
fit
right....

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
I tend to have the same thing, hard to stay focused 100% of
the
time
when
everyone
is fussing over us. I find I kind of relax just a little
too
much.
G
But,
that's ok too - sometimes you just have to relax, as long as
we
don't
make
it a
forever thing.

I have a tough time with jeans too, had someone the other
day
tell
me
to
try the
junior sizing (yeah, right, sure - not gonna happen unless I
want
to
totally
humiliate myself). Relaxed fit is too big in the legs, hips
and
thighs -
look
like clown pants on me. I have a pair of carpenter pants on
today,
size 6
and
very baggy. I could take a 4 in these and probably still
have
a
bit
of
room to
spare - they don't come in 4's. In lower rise jeans I seem
to
need
a
smaller size
than in regular cut higher waist - the waist is too snug for
my
liking
and
I do
like to be able to breath. I haven't tried the Gloria
Vanderbilt
jeans,
always
made the assumption that those *designer* names wouldn't
work
for
me -
maybe I
will give them a try as I saw some cute capri's in a sales
ad
this
week.
I found
a new one that does fit me well though, only ones in the Lee
brand
that
aren't
baggy in the legs ... they have a *one true fit* or
something
like
that -
fits me
very nicely ... everywhere. Same with the Levi Nouveau but
I
forget
which
number
(why do they assign the styles numbers???). The levi's have
a
little
stretch to
them, great in the waist but tend to get a tad baggy in the
seat
after
a
few
hours. Oh well, I like the baggy better than the constant
snug I
used
to
deal
with. g Shirts are an entirely different story with me -
range
anywhere
from a
small to a large, depending on the store and brand. I have
no
cl
ue.

Joyce

On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 11:13:37 -0600, Prairie Roots

wrote:

Thanks Joyce. I got a lot of compliments and attention at
work
this
week regarding my weight loss, people saying things about
how
confident I appear, that I have a more positive attitude,
and
just
plain look great. I think my head got a little puffed up
from
all
the
compliments and that's what started all the other crazy
thinking.

It's hard to find jeans that fit me. The ubiquitous relaxed
fit
jeans
don't work for me; I carry my weight in my tummy, not my
hips
and
thighs. Of all the brands I've tried, Gloria Vanderbilt
classic
fit
jeans fit me best. I too like a little stretch in my jeans,
makes
bending over not just a breathtaking experience. LOL But
couldn't
find
any this shopping trip and the non-stretch jeans don't cut
off
my
oxygen supply.

Thanks again for your encouragement.

Linda P

On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 09:58:12 -0600, Joyce
wrote:

Hey, taking a week of following the program and
maintaining
is
fantastic! Call it
practice for the future, you've proved to yourself that it
can
be
done.
Congrats
on holding firm this week.

Wish I could help you with the sink decision ... my
decisions
are
always
to go on
the cheap side of things. G I think both times we've
replaced
the
sink, we
ended up at Builders Square (or similar home improvement
store)
and
looking at
their discards (something that someone else ordered and
couldn't/wouldn't use for
one reason or another). Many times they may have had a
little
chip
or
scratch in
the underside - nothing noticeable or functionable - but
always
at
a
great
reduction and usable. Might be something to think about
or
look
into.

What a great NSV, fitting easily into those size 10 jeans,
smaller
tops
and much
smaller undergarments. I love the clothing victories (yet
still
hate
to
shop).
Where did you ever find jeans without stretch though? I
swear
that
seems to be
all that is being made these days! BUT ... don't write
them
off
dear.
They are
wonderfully comfortable, and I've found rather flattering.
They
hug
ya
in all
those places we didn't use to like being hugged. G

Fight back with those other personalities of yours that
are
currently
letting
themselves be heard. Do not let them put a damper on your
motivation
or
spirit.
You know why you should go further, just have to make sure
you
are
louder than
those other voices. C'mon Linda (wow, was THAT hard for
me
to
say),
you
can do
it!

Joyce



On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 08:54:10 -0600, Prairie Roots

wrote:

My current weight: 159.6 lbs
Weight change since my last recorded weight: 0.0 lbs
Total weight change to date: -72.4 lbs

Today I'm grateful to see no change in my weight from
last
week.
I've
been on a mental plateau this week. Hitting the 70+ total
loss
and
getting below 160 is doing a job on my motivation to keep
going.
This
is further than I expected to go; some part of me I
haven't
heard
from
before is wondering why I think I should even further.

It probably didn't help that, on a whim, I tried on a
jacket
formerly
worn by one of my skinny daughters and discovered that it
fit.
I
also
went shopping for some new jeans and got into a classic
fit
size
10
petite withOUT stretch. When I also discovered that the
medium
tops
fit nicely, I realized I should head over to the
foundations
department for new undergarments and give my girls a new
lift.
Since
starting WW, I've gone down from 44DD to 38D.

My food was off this week. More importantly, I didn't
exercise
even
once. I'm on a rollercoaster ride with the impending
construction
work
on my kitchen and bathroom. My current dilemma is
deciding
what
kind
of kitchen sink I want and how much of my construction
budget
I
want
to spend on it. I still haven't gotten my bike. Later
today
I'll
have
to call and find out if I need to get cranky. The bus
strike
started
and I'm carpooling, leaving earlier than usual and
getting
home
later.
I'm starting with a new hospice patient whose health
issues. A
major
project I've been involved with at work is nearing
completion
and
morphing into an even bigger project.

All of this is to say that I took a bit of a breather
from
WW
this
week to marvel at my overall progress and to focus on a
few
other
pressing issues. That I ended up maintaining is a wonder.

It's the best day of my life!

Linda P
232/159.6/WW goal 145
joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

At this point, I am still in the larger sizes and their larger sized women's
department had a lot to be desired, I think they had may 3 racks total of
larger size clothes, so most likely I will not be back there for a while.
The younger/junior sized things that my daughter could fit in to she would
not be caught dead in, she is so not into the fashion trends. Give her a
pair of jeans (Levi's ultra-low rise with stretch size 5),a T-shirt and her
Dickies hooded sweatshirt along with her high top Converse shoes and she is
a happy camper. She is so simple, and not trendy at all. It is nice to
shop for her and she is not a clothes horse either so that is nice too. On
the other hand her older sister (20 years old) loves to shop and could break
me, but since she has to spend her own money on clothes now, she thinks
twice before buying something.

Debbie

"Laura" wrote in message
...
Give Kohls time to get going. Ours has the greatest clearance racks. Stuff
70% off. Now affordable. I found a cute long dressy skirt there the other
night for $5. It might be a tad too big by the time I plan to wear it in
May
but it will be worth taking it in at the waist for the luncheon.

"Deb in Northern California" wrote in message
news
We had a Kohl's open in our town last week. This was the first wave of
stores to open in Nor Cal. I was very disappointed in the store and the
quality of merchandise and the prices were on the high side as far as I
was
concerned. But that is just my observation of going there last night
and
looking for a strapless bra for my youngest daughter. $30+ for a bra
that
hold barely anything. She is a 34A.

Debbie

"Joyce" wrote in message
...
Yup, definitely younger category ... you are the same age as our
oldest
girl
(she'll be 30 in June). She also loves Gap, Banana Republic, Eddie
Bauer,
Express, etc. To me, the *normal* prices at all these stores are too
expensive.
Again, probably an age thing. What I think is expensive, she thinks
is
reasonable. G I'm more of a Kohl's/Penney's type shopper. G

Joyce

On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 19:16:46 -0600, "skiur"
wrote:

I'll be thirty this year, so I guess I qualify in the younger
category.
I'm
also all of 5 ft 3 in and my torso seems to be proportioned--I
wouldn't
know
since it's been submerged under the weight for so long.

It's certainly clearance time. We'll be going to Banana Republic for
dh
soon...I have a feeling sweaters will be inexpensive soon. Last year
we
got
him cashmere/silk blends for $7/ea.

Julie, who loves to get great bargains on clothing.


"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
I did buy one pair of Gap jeans on clearance, was a great deal for
$10.
You will
get into that XL shirt. If you're younger, you probably don't mind
those
shorter
styles anyway. My problem is that all my height is from the waist
up -
so
shirts
that are cut to hit at the waist normally, will hit me even higher
up.
Not a
pretty picture on this old lady. G I did find some terrific buys
after
Christmas ... mens cotton sweaters, marked down to $6. These were
cut
so
short, I
can't imagine any man wearing them. But they fit me perfectly, and
are
just plain
unisex styling. Guess it's time once again to check out the
clearance
racks. I
found out today that what few hooded sweatshirts I have, are all
size
L
(mens) ...
much too big. This should be the right time to pick stuff up
cheaply.

Joyce

On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 10:44:48 -0600, "skiur"
wrote:

No, but on clearance they are very attractive. I have a shirt
from
the
Gap
that I bought specifically as a NSV clothing shirt. I paid $1.99
for
it.
I
do hope to get into it at some point, it's an XL.

Julie


"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
I do have two pairs of jeans from the gap, but they don't seem
to
fit
as
well as
these others I have found. They fit *ok* and are acceptable ...
except
for the
price. G Shirts at the Gap are definitely made for younger
females,
those with
little to no chest factor. G Even my 105 pound daughter has
to
take
a
medium
there. They seem to be cut small and short ... not good options
for
women
with
longer body lengths.

Joyce

On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 15:01:04 -0600, "skiur"

wrote:

Have you been to the Gap? I know they are more expensive, but
if
they
fit
right....

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
I tend to have the same thing, hard to stay focused 100% of
the
time
when
everyone
is fussing over us. I find I kind of relax just a little too
much.
G
But,
that's ok too - sometimes you just have to relax, as long as
we
don't
make
it a
forever thing.

I have a tough time with jeans too, had someone the other day
tell
me
to
try the
junior sizing (yeah, right, sure - not gonna happen unless I
want
to
totally
humiliate myself). Relaxed fit is too big in the legs, hips
and
thighs -
look
like clown pants on me. I have a pair of carpenter pants on
today,
size 6
and
very baggy. I could take a 4 in these and probably still
have
a
bit
of
room to
spare - they don't come in 4's. In lower rise jeans I seem
to
need
a
smaller size
than in regular cut higher waist - the waist is too snug for
my
liking
and
I do
like to be able to breath. I haven't tried the Gloria
Vanderbilt
jeans,
always
made the assumption that those *designer* names wouldn't work
for
me -
maybe I
will give them a try as I saw some cute capri's in a sales ad
this
week.
I found
a new one that does fit me well though, only ones in the Lee
brand
that
aren't
baggy in the legs ... they have a *one true fit* or something
like
that -
fits me
very nicely ... everywhere. Same with the Levi Nouveau but I
forget
which
number
(why do they assign the styles numbers???). The levi's have
a
little
stretch to
them, great in the waist but tend to get a tad baggy in the
seat
after
a
few
hours. Oh well, I like the baggy better than the constant
snug
I
used
to
deal
with. g Shirts are an entirely different story with me -
range
anywhere
from a
small to a large, depending on the store and brand. I have
no
cl
ue.

Joyce

On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 11:13:37 -0600, Prairie Roots

wrote:

Thanks Joyce. I got a lot of compliments and attention at
work
this
week regarding my weight loss, people saying things about
how
confident I appear, that I have a more positive attitude,
and
just
plain look great. I think my head got a little puffed up
from
all
the
compliments and that's what started all the other crazy
thinking.

It's hard to find jeans that fit me. The ubiquitous relaxed
fit
jeans
don't work for me; I carry my weight in my tummy, not my
hips
and
thighs. Of all the brands I've tried, Gloria Vanderbilt
classic
fit
jeans fit me best. I too like a little stretch in my jeans,
makes
bending over not just a breathtaking experience. LOL But
couldn't
find
any this shopping trip and the non-stretch jeans don't cut
off
my
oxygen supply.

Thanks again for your encouragement.

Linda P

On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 09:58:12 -0600, Joyce
wrote:

Hey, taking a week of following the program and maintaining
is
fantastic! Call it
practice for the future, you've proved to yourself that it
can
be
done.
Congrats
on holding firm this week.

Wish I could help you with the sink decision ... my
decisions
are
always
to go on
the cheap side of things. G I think both times we've
replaced
the
sink, we
ended up at Builders Square (or similar home improvement
store)
and
looking at
their discards (something that someone else ordered and
couldn't/wouldn't use for
one reason or another). Many times they may have had a
little
chip
or
scratch in
the underside - nothing noticeable or functionable - but
always
at
a
great
reduction and usable. Might be something to think about or
look
into.

What a great NSV, fitting easily into those size 10 jeans,
smaller
tops
and much
smaller undergarments. I love the clothing victories (yet
still
hate
to
shop).
Where did you ever find jeans without stretch though? I
swear
that
seems to be
all that is being made these days! BUT ... don't write
them
off
dear.
They are
wonderfully comfortable, and I've found rather flattering.
They
hug
ya
in all
those places we didn't use to like being hugged. G

Fight back with those other personalities of yours that are
currently
letting
themselves be heard. Do not let them put a damper on your
motivation
or
spirit.
You know why you should go further, just have to make sure
you
are
louder than
those other voices. C'mon Linda (wow, was THAT hard for me
to
say),
you
can do
it!

Joyce



On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 08:54:10 -0600, Prairie Roots

wrote:

My current weight: 159.6 lbs
Weight change since my last recorded weight: 0.0 lbs
Total weight change to date: -72.4 lbs

Today I'm grateful to see no change in my weight from last
week.
I've
been on a mental plateau this week. Hitting the 70+ total
loss
and
getting below 160 is doing a job on my motivation to keep
going.
This
is further than I expected to go; some part of me I
haven't
heard
from
before is wondering why I think I should even further.

It probably didn't help that, on a whim, I tried on a
jacket
formerly
worn by one of my skinny daughters and discovered that it
fit.
I
also
went shopping for some new jeans and got into a classic
fit
size
10
petite withOUT stretch. When I also discovered that the
medium
tops
fit nicely, I realized I should head over to the
foundations
department for new undergarments and give my girls a new
lift.
Since
starting WW, I've gone down from 44DD to 38D.

My food was off this week. More importantly, I didn't
exercise
even
once. I'm on a rollercoaster ride with the impending
construction
work
on my kitchen and bathroom. My current dilemma is deciding
what
kind
of kitchen sink I want and how much of my construction
budget
I
want
to spend on it. I still haven't gotten my bike. Later
today
I'll
have
to call and find out if I need to get cranky. The bus
strike
started
and I'm carpooling, leaving earlier than usual and getting
home
later.
I'm starting with a new hospice patient whose health
issues.
A
major
project I've been involved with at work is nearing
completion
and
morphing into an even bigger project.

All of this is to say that I took a bit of a breather from
WW
this
week to marvel at my overall progress and to focus on a
few
other
pressing issues. That I ended up maintaining is a wonder.

It's the best day of my life!

Linda P
232/159.6/WW goal 145
joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

Sounds to me like your store is one of the much smaller ones. I have 4 stores in
nearby towns - one is a very small store, one is extremely large ... other two are
somewhere in between. The women's section in the one nearest me is quite large
.... well, larger than 3 racks but smaller than a specialty shop. g I do admit
though, that I never cared for their selection of items in the larger sizes ...
then again, I didn't care for the items in the specialized women's stores either.
I'm very picky. G

Your non-trendy daughter would have no problem shopping in the Kohl's store near
me ... they carry the lowrise levi's (carry tons of levi's) and dickie sweats.
What's rather odd is that around here, Dickie's is considered a more trendy brand
as well as those high top converse's (daughter just looked at a pair at Journeys
but took a pass on them) ... so maybe by CA standards she is not trendy, yet IL
standards she is??? g I have found Kohl's to have the best prices on the levi
jeans ... again, when they are on sale. I don't recall ever spending more than
$20/pair, which is cheaper than anywhere else (they usually run around $30-$40
depending on style - low rise and stretch are at the top price end). Now my
youngest daughter will not buy clothing at Kohl's, she is more of a brand snob in
my opinion ... American Eagle, Express, etc.

I also lean towards the very basic type stylings ... jeans, t's, polo's, simple
sweaters - so is very easy to catch sales. I'm not into *brands*, the house
brands are just fine by me. I picked up several polo's during last years
clearance for $3/each - sweaters at the beginning of the season for around $12. I
can't touch those prices elsewhere (other than K-mart/Wal-mart which fall apart on
me after a few washings).

I guess it's just like everywhere else. You have to know your pricing and your
merchandise. I stay away from the high end designs.

Joyce

On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 22:23:24 -0800, "Deb in Northern California"
wrote:

At this point, I am still in the larger sizes and their larger sized women's
department had a lot to be desired, I think they had may 3 racks total of
larger size clothes, so most likely I will not be back there for a while.
The younger/junior sized things that my daughter could fit in to she would
not be caught dead in, she is so not into the fashion trends. Give her a
pair of jeans (Levi's ultra-low rise with stretch size 5),a T-shirt and her
Dickies hooded sweatshirt along with her high top Converse shoes and she is
a happy camper. She is so simple, and not trendy at all. It is nice to
shop for her and she is not a clothes horse either so that is nice too. On
the other hand her older sister (20 years old) loves to shop and could break
me, but since she has to spend her own money on clothes now, she thinks
twice before buying something.

Debbie

"Laura" wrote in message
...
Give Kohls time to get going. Ours has the greatest clearance racks. Stuff
70% off. Now affordable. I found a cute long dressy skirt there the other
night for $5. It might be a tad too big by the time I plan to wear it in
May
but it will be worth taking it in at the waist for the luncheon.

"Deb in Northern California" wrote in message
news
We had a Kohl's open in our town last week. This was the first wave of
stores to open in Nor Cal. I was very disappointed in the store and the
quality of merchandise and the prices were on the high side as far as I
was
concerned. But that is just my observation of going there last night
and
looking for a strapless bra for my youngest daughter. $30+ for a bra
that
hold barely anything. She is a 34A.

Debbie

"Joyce" wrote in message
...
Yup, definitely younger category ... you are the same age as our
oldest
girl
(she'll be 30 in June). She also loves Gap, Banana Republic, Eddie
Bauer,
Express, etc. To me, the *normal* prices at all these stores are too
expensive.
Again, probably an age thing. What I think is expensive, she thinks
is
reasonable. G I'm more of a Kohl's/Penney's type shopper. G

Joyce

On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 19:16:46 -0600, "skiur"
wrote:

I'll be thirty this year, so I guess I qualify in the younger
category.
I'm
also all of 5 ft 3 in and my torso seems to be proportioned--I
wouldn't
know
since it's been submerged under the weight for so long.

It's certainly clearance time. We'll be going to Banana Republic for
dh
soon...I have a feeling sweaters will be inexpensive soon. Last year
we
got
him cashmere/silk blends for $7/ea.

Julie, who loves to get great bargains on clothing.


"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
I did buy one pair of Gap jeans on clearance, was a great deal for
$10.
You will
get into that XL shirt. If you're younger, you probably don't mind
those
shorter
styles anyway. My problem is that all my height is from the waist
up -
so
shirts
that are cut to hit at the waist normally, will hit me even higher
up.
Not a
pretty picture on this old lady. G I did find some terrific buys
after
Christmas ... mens cotton sweaters, marked down to $6. These were
cut
so
short, I
can't imagine any man wearing them. But they fit me perfectly, and
are
just plain
unisex styling. Guess it's time once again to check out the
clearance
racks. I
found out today that what few hooded sweatshirts I have, are all
size
L
(mens) ...
much too big. This should be the right time to pick stuff up
cheaply.

Joyce

On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 10:44:48 -0600, "skiur"
wrote:

No, but on clearance they are very attractive. I have a shirt
from
the
Gap
that I bought specifically as a NSV clothing shirt. I paid $1.99
for
it.
I
do hope to get into it at some point, it's an XL.

Julie


"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
I do have two pairs of jeans from the gap, but they don't seem
to
fit
as
well as
these others I have found. They fit *ok* and are acceptable ...
except
for the
price. G Shirts at the Gap are definitely made for younger
females,
those with
little to no chest factor. G Even my 105 pound daughter has
to
take
a
medium
there. They seem to be cut small and short ... not good options
for
women
with
longer body lengths.

Joyce

On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 15:01:04 -0600, "skiur"

wrote:

Have you been to the Gap? I know they are more expensive, but
if
they
fit
right....

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
I tend to have the same thing, hard to stay focused 100% of
the
time
when
everyone
is fussing over us. I find I kind of relax just a little too
much.
G
But,
that's ok too - sometimes you just have to relax, as long as
we
don't
make
it a
forever thing.

I have a tough time with jeans too, had someone the other day
tell
me
to
try the
junior sizing (yeah, right, sure - not gonna happen unless I
want
to
totally
humiliate myself). Relaxed fit is too big in the legs, hips
and
thighs -
look
like clown pants on me. I have a pair of carpenter pants on
today,
size 6
and
very baggy. I could take a 4 in these and probably still
have
a
bit
of
room to
spare - they don't come in 4's. In lower rise jeans I seem
to
need
a
smaller size
than in regular cut higher waist - the waist is too snug for
my
liking
and
I do
like to be able to breath. I haven't tried the Gloria
Vanderbilt
jeans,
always
made the assumption that those *designer* names wouldn't work
for
me -
maybe I
will give them a try as I saw some cute capri's in a sales ad
this
week.
I found
a new one that does fit me well though, only ones in the Lee
brand
that
aren't
baggy in the legs ... they have a *one true fit* or something
like
that -
fits me
very nicely ... everywhere. Same with the Levi Nouveau but I
forget
which
number
(why do they assign the styles numbers???). The levi's have
a
little
stretch to
them, great in the waist but tend to get a tad baggy in the
seat
after
a
few
hours. Oh well, I like the baggy better than the constant
snug
I
used
to
deal
with. g Shirts are an entirely different story with me -
range
anywhere
from a
small to a large, depending on the store and brand. I have
no
cl
ue.

Joyce

On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 11:13:37 -0600, Prairie Roots

wrote:

Thanks Joyce. I got a lot of compliments and attention at
work
this
week regarding my weight loss, people saying things about
how
confident I appear, that I have a more positive attitude,
and
just
plain look great. I think my head got a little puffed up
from
all
the
compliments and that's what started all the other crazy
thinking.

It's hard to find jeans that fit me. The ubiquitous relaxed
fit
jeans
don't work for me; I carry my weight in my tummy, not my
hips
and
thighs. Of all the brands I've tried, Gloria Vanderbilt
classic
fit
jeans fit me best. I too like a little stretch in my jeans,
makes
bending over not just a breathtaking experience. LOL But
couldn't
find
any this shopping trip and the non-stretch jeans don't cut
off
my
oxygen supply.

Thanks again for your encouragement.

Linda P

On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 09:58:12 -0600, Joyce
wrote:

Hey, taking a week of following the program and maintaining
is
fantastic! Call it
practice for the future, you've proved to yourself that it
can
be
done.
Congrats
on holding firm this week.

Wish I could help you with the sink decision ... my
decisions
are
always
to go on
the cheap side of things. G I think both times we've
replaced
the
sink, we
ended up at Builders Square (or similar home improvement
store)
and
looking at
their discards (something that someone else ordered and
couldn't/wouldn't use for
one reason or another). Many times they may have had a
little
chip
or
scratch in
the underside - nothing noticeable or functionable - but
always
at
a
great
reduction and usable. Might be something to think about or
look
into.

What a great NSV, fitting easily into those size 10 jeans,
smaller
tops
and much
smaller undergarments. I love the clothing victories (yet
still
hate
to
shop).
Where did you ever find jeans without stretch though? I
swear
that
seems to be
all that is being made these days! BUT ... don't write
them
off
dear.
They are
wonderfully comfortable, and I've found rather flattering.
They
hug
ya
in all
those places we didn't use to like being hugged. G

Fight back with those other personalities of yours that are
currently
letting
themselves be heard. Do not let them put a damper on your
motivation
or
spirit.
You know why you should go further, just have to make sure
you
are
louder than
those other voices. C'mon Linda (wow, was THAT hard for me
to
say),
you
can do
it!

Joyce



On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 08:54:10 -0600, Prairie Roots

wrote:

My current weight: 159.6 lbs
Weight change since my last recorded weight: 0.0 lbs
Total weight change to date: -72.4 lbs

Today I'm grateful to see no change in my weight from last
week.
I've
been on a mental plateau this week. Hitting the 70+ total
loss
and
getting below 160 is doing a job on my motivation to keep
going.
This
is further than I expected to go; some part of me I
haven't
heard
from
before is wondering why I think I should even further.

It probably didn't help that, on a whim, I tried on a
jacket
formerly
worn by one of my skinny daughters and discovered that it
fit.
I
also
went shopping for some new jeans and got into a classic
fit
size
10
petite withOUT stretch. When I also discovered that the
medium
tops
fit nicely, I realized I should head over to the
foundations
department for new undergarments and give my girls a new
lift.
Since
starting WW, I've gone down from 44DD to 38D.

My food was off this week. More importantly, I didn't
exercise
even
once. I'm on a rollercoaster ride with the impending
construction
work
on my kitchen and bathroom. My current dilemma is deciding
what
kind
of kitchen sink I want and how much of my construction
budget
I
want
to spend on it. I still haven't gotten my bike. Later
today
I'll
have
to call and find out if I need to get cranky. The bus
strike
started
and I'm carpooling, leaving earlier than usual and getting
home
later.
I'm starting with a new hospice patient whose health
issues.
A
major
project I've been involved with at work is nearing
completion
and
morphing into an even bigger project.

All of this is to say that I took a bit of a breather from
WW
this
week to marvel at my overall progress and to focus on a
few
other
pressing issues. That I ended up maintaining is a wonder.

It's the best day of my life!

Linda P
232/159.6/WW goal 145
joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

Well, let me know when you do get over it. I've lived here close to 47 years now
and still am not over it. January rolls around and we start thinking we are at
the end of winter ... Feb makes us think spring is coming ... March is a tease and
April is plain cruel. G And to think that this was really a very mild winter by
normal standards. We really didn't get hit with any nasty stuff until after the
first of the year. We just got hit with it all at once. LOL

Joyce

On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 19:55:30 -0600, "skiur" wrote:

*groan*

Yes. First Chicago winter. I'll get over it-I hope.

Julie

"Joyce" wrote in message
news
Is this your first winter in the Chicago area, Julie? If so ... be
forewarned ...
it can, and will, be like this for a few more months. g The old saying
holds
true ... if you don't like the current weather, wait a few minutes. g

Joyce

On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 17:36:27 -0600, "skiur" wrote:

*mrph*

I'm just irritated that winter seems to be back these few days and I was
so
looking forward to warmer weather. I feel cheated somehow. This is the
furthest north that I've lived.

Julie, cranking the heat back up.


"Deb in Northern California" wrote in message
...
But we never have flurries or temps like that unless we are having a
severe
cold spell.

Debbie

"skiur" wrote in message
...
You really don't need to remind us about the temps at your house (I'm
in
Illinois). I was talking to a friend of mine in Northern California
last
night and they had the air condition on--we had flurries today. I
just
got
back from the bookstore and there was frost on my car. I think the
car
said
it was 34F. Really...no need to rub it in.

Julie

"Deb in Northern California" wrote in message
...
Mom never had trouble keeping the water hot in her SS sink. For
that
matter, up until I was about 5 years old, I took all my baths in
the
kitchen
sink and then my girls did when they were at grandma's house too.
I
guess
temperature is relative to the outside temps too and most times the
temps
where I grew up ranged from the 50F-80F. So the cold of where you
are
versus where we are are completely different.

BTW, spring has sprung here. We broke records yesterday with 77F
and
today
we were supposed to be over 80F.

Debbie

"Prairie Roots" wrote in message
...
The reasons Joyce lists below are the primary reasons my three
friends
gave for disliking SS. Other reasons include the noise of SS when
hit
with a pan or tumbling tableware (forks, knives, spoons), and the
inability to keep hot water hot when handwashing dishes.

Honestly, I've never noticed the noise factor. Water spots don't
bother me at all. And I use a dishwasher. You can find a picture
of
me
at www.flylady.net. I'm the frazzled one in the upper left corner
of
the home page.

I'm ordering my SS sink today.

On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 23:03:10 -0600, "skiur"
wrote:

Forgive me, but why in the world do your friends not care for
stainless?

Julie, who can't fathom that idea.

"Prairie Roots" wrote in message
.. .
Thanks Lee. My sink choices are quickly narrowing to stainless
steel.
I've been listening to a couple of friends who don't care for
stainless, but I have SS now and don't seem to mind the
problems
they've listed. I'll be buying a new gas range/stovetop and
dishwasher, too, and am considering stainless steel finish.

On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 23:27:49 -0600, "Miss Violette"
wrote:

I am glad to see your attitude is so wonderful. Get
stainless
steel
whatever configuration you get on the sink, I love stainless
steel,
Lee
Prairie Roots wrote in message
.. .
My current weight: 159.6 lbs
Weight change since my last recorded weight: 0.0 lbs
Total weight change to date: -72.4 lbs

Today I'm grateful to see no change in my weight from last
week.
I've
been on a mental plateau this week. Hitting the 70+ total
loss
and
getting below 160 is doing a job on my motivation to keep
going.
This
is further than I expected to go; some part of me I haven't
heard
from
before is wondering why I think I should even further.

It probably didn't help that, on a whim, I tried on a
jacket
formerly
worn by one of my skinny daughters and discovered that it
fit.
I
also
went shopping for some new jeans and got into a classic fit
size
10
petite withOUT stretch. When I also discovered that the
medium
tops
fit nicely, I realized I should head over to the
foundations
department for new undergarments and give my girls a new
lift.
Since
starting WW, I've gone down from 44DD to 38D.

My food was off this week. More importantly, I didn't
exercise
even
once. I'm on a rollercoaster ride with the impending
construction
work
on my kitchen and bathroom. My current dilemma is deciding
what
kind
of kitchen sink I want and how much of my construction
budget
I
want
to spend on it. I still haven't gotten my bike. Later today
I'll
have
to call and find out if I need to get cranky. The bus
strike
started
and I'm carpooling, leaving earlier than usual and getting
home
later.
I'm starting with a new hospice patient whose health
issues. A
major
project I've been involved with at work is nearing
completion
and
morphing into an even bigger project.

All of this is to say that I took a bit of a breather from
WW
this
week to marvel at my overall progress and to focus on a few
other
pressing issues. That I ended up maintaining is a wonder.

It's the best day of my life!
--
Linda P
week 54: 232/159.6/WW goal 145
RAFL week 9: 167/159.6/154
next mini-goals: 157 (75 lbs total loss); 155 (10 lbs to WW
goal);
154
( RAFL goal)
started WW 22-Feb-2003 | 10% target: 1-May-2003
5'4" | 50 | F




Linda P
232/159.6/WW goal 145
joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003


Linda P
232/159.6/WW goal 145
joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

The American Eagle, Express, etc, are the stores she stays away from. We
rarely step into K-Mart or Wal-Mart. I hate that they have zero customer
service. I typically shop Target instead for the things that K-Mart or
Wal-Mart carry. We have a store called Mervyn's here that sells the jeans
she likes on sale for about $22 that is very reasonable. The Dickies that
she wears, are the men's, and they typically come from Work World. The
converse shoes are the basic black ones, nothing special about it and they
did come from Journey's, but we had to special order them, since she wears
the boys/men's styles rather than the girls styles. Of any store that she
shops at that would be considered trendy it would be Hot Topic. But then
again, those are just t's and a few other tops she buys in there. She is
such a down to earth girl. Most of the stuff she wears, she prefers to buy
in the men's/boys department and those are cheaper too.


"Joyce" wrote in message
...
Sounds to me like your store is one of the much smaller ones. I have 4
stores in
nearby towns - one is a very small store, one is extremely large ... other
two are
somewhere in between. The women's section in the one nearest me is quite
large
... well, larger than 3 racks but smaller than a specialty shop. g I do
admit
though, that I never cared for their selection of items in the larger
sizes ...
then again, I didn't care for the items in the specialized women's stores
either.
I'm very picky. G

Your non-trendy daughter would have no problem shopping in the Kohl's
store near
me ... they carry the lowrise levi's (carry tons of levi's) and dickie
sweats.
What's rather odd is that around here, Dickie's is considered a more
trendy brand
as well as those high top converse's (daughter just looked at a pair at
Journeys
but took a pass on them) ... so maybe by CA standards she is not trendy,
yet IL
standards she is??? g I have found Kohl's to have the best prices on
the levi
jeans ... again, when they are on sale. I don't recall ever spending more
than
$20/pair, which is cheaper than anywhere else (they usually run around
$30-$40
depending on style - low rise and stretch are at the top price end). Now
my
youngest daughter will not buy clothing at Kohl's, she is more of a brand
snob in
my opinion ... American Eagle, Express, etc.

I also lean towards the very basic type stylings ... jeans, t's, polo's,
simple
sweaters - so is very easy to catch sales. I'm not into *brands*, the
house
brands are just fine by me. I picked up several polo's during last years
clearance for $3/each - sweaters at the beginning of the season for around
$12. I
can't touch those prices elsewhere (other than K-mart/Wal-mart which fall
apart on
me after a few washings).

I guess it's just like everywhere else. You have to know your pricing and
your
merchandise. I stay away from the high end designs.

Joyce

On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 22:23:24 -0800, "Deb in Northern California"
wrote:

At this point, I am still in the larger sizes and their larger sized
women's
department had a lot to be desired, I think they had may 3 racks total of
larger size clothes, so most likely I will not be back there for a while.
The younger/junior sized things that my daughter could fit in to she
would
not be caught dead in, she is so not into the fashion trends. Give her a
pair of jeans (Levi's ultra-low rise with stretch size 5),a T-shirt and
her
Dickies hooded sweatshirt along with her high top Converse shoes and she
is
a happy camper. She is so simple, and not trendy at all. It is nice to
shop for her and she is not a clothes horse either so that is nice too.
On
the other hand her older sister (20 years old) loves to shop and could
break
me, but since she has to spend her own money on clothes now, she thinks
twice before buying something.

Debbie

"Laura" wrote in message
...
Give Kohls time to get going. Ours has the greatest clearance racks.
Stuff
70% off. Now affordable. I found a cute long dressy skirt there the
other
night for $5. It might be a tad too big by the time I plan to wear it
in
May
but it will be worth taking it in at the waist for the luncheon.

"Deb in Northern California" wrote in message
news We had a Kohl's open in our town last week. This was the first wave
of
stores to open in Nor Cal. I was very disappointed in the store and
the
quality of merchandise and the prices were on the high side as far as
I
was
concerned. But that is just my observation of going there last night
and
looking for a strapless bra for my youngest daughter. $30+ for a bra
that
hold barely anything. She is a 34A.

Debbie

"Joyce" wrote in message
...
Yup, definitely younger category ... you are the same age as our
oldest
girl
(she'll be 30 in June). She also loves Gap, Banana Republic, Eddie
Bauer,
Express, etc. To me, the *normal* prices at all these stores are
too
expensive.
Again, probably an age thing. What I think is expensive, she
thinks
is
reasonable. G I'm more of a Kohl's/Penney's type shopper. G

Joyce

On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 19:16:46 -0600, "skiur"
wrote:

I'll be thirty this year, so I guess I qualify in the younger
category.
I'm
also all of 5 ft 3 in and my torso seems to be proportioned--I
wouldn't
know
since it's been submerged under the weight for so long.

It's certainly clearance time. We'll be going to Banana Republic
for
dh
soon...I have a feeling sweaters will be inexpensive soon. Last
year
we
got
him cashmere/silk blends for $7/ea.

Julie, who loves to get great bargains on clothing.


"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
I did buy one pair of Gap jeans on clearance, was a great deal
for
$10.
You will
get into that XL shirt. If you're younger, you probably don't
mind
those
shorter
styles anyway. My problem is that all my height is from the
waist
up -
so
shirts
that are cut to hit at the waist normally, will hit me even
higher
up.
Not a
pretty picture on this old lady. G I did find some terrific
buys
after
Christmas ... mens cotton sweaters, marked down to $6. These
were
cut
so
short, I
can't imagine any man wearing them. But they fit me perfectly,
and
are
just plain
unisex styling. Guess it's time once again to check out the
clearance
racks. I
found out today that what few hooded sweatshirts I have, are all
size
L
(mens) ...
much too big. This should be the right time to pick stuff up
cheaply.

Joyce

On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 10:44:48 -0600, "skiur"

wrote:

No, but on clearance they are very attractive. I have a shirt
from
the
Gap
that I bought specifically as a NSV clothing shirt. I paid
$1.99
for
it.
I
do hope to get into it at some point, it's an XL.

Julie


"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
I do have two pairs of jeans from the gap, but they don't
seem
to
fit
as
well as
these others I have found. They fit *ok* and are acceptable
....
except
for the
price. G Shirts at the Gap are definitely made for younger
females,
those with
little to no chest factor. G Even my 105 pound daughter
has
to
take
a
medium
there. They seem to be cut small and short ... not good
options
for
women
with
longer body lengths.

Joyce

On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 15:01:04 -0600, "skiur"

wrote:

Have you been to the Gap? I know they are more expensive,
but
if
they
fit
right....

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
I tend to have the same thing, hard to stay focused 100%
of
the
time
when
everyone
is fussing over us. I find I kind of relax just a little
too
much.
G
But,
that's ok too - sometimes you just have to relax, as long
as
we
don't
make
it a
forever thing.

I have a tough time with jeans too, had someone the other
day
tell
me
to
try the
junior sizing (yeah, right, sure - not gonna happen unless
I
want
to
totally
humiliate myself). Relaxed fit is too big in the legs,
hips
and
thighs -
look
like clown pants on me. I have a pair of carpenter pants
on
today,
size 6
and
very baggy. I could take a 4 in these and probably still
have
a
bit
of
room to
spare - they don't come in 4's. In lower rise jeans I
seem
to
need
a
smaller size
than in regular cut higher waist - the waist is too snug
for
my
liking
and
I do
like to be able to breath. I haven't tried the Gloria
Vanderbilt
jeans,
always
made the assumption that those *designer* names wouldn't
work
for
me -
maybe I
will give them a try as I saw some cute capri's in a sales
ad
this
week.
I found
a new one that does fit me well though, only ones in the
Lee
brand
that
aren't
baggy in the legs ... they have a *one true fit* or
something
like
that -
fits me
very nicely ... everywhere. Same with the Levi Nouveau
but I
forget
which
number
(why do they assign the styles numbers???). The levi's
have
a
little
stretch to
them, great in the waist but tend to get a tad baggy in
the
seat
after
a
few
hours. Oh well, I like the baggy better than the constant
snug
I
used
to
deal
with. g Shirts are an entirely different story with
me -
range
anywhere
from a
small to a large, depending on the store and brand. I
have
no
cl
ue.

Joyce

On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 11:13:37 -0600, Prairie Roots

wrote:

Thanks Joyce. I got a lot of compliments and attention at
work
this
week regarding my weight loss, people saying things about
how
confident I appear, that I have a more positive attitude,
and
just
plain look great. I think my head got a little puffed up
from
all
the
compliments and that's what started all the other crazy
thinking.

It's hard to find jeans that fit me. The ubiquitous
relaxed
fit
jeans
don't work for me; I carry my weight in my tummy, not my
hips
and
thighs. Of all the brands I've tried, Gloria Vanderbilt
classic
fit
jeans fit me best. I too like a little stretch in my
jeans,
makes
bending over not just a breathtaking experience. LOL But
couldn't
find
any this shopping trip and the non-stretch jeans don't
cut
off
my
oxygen supply.

Thanks again for your encouragement.

Linda P

On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 09:58:12 -0600, Joyce
wrote:

Hey, taking a week of following the program and
maintaining
is
fantastic! Call it
practice for the future, you've proved to yourself that
it
can
be
done.
Congrats
on holding firm this week.

Wish I could help you with the sink decision ... my
decisions
are
always
to go on
the cheap side of things. G I think both times we've
replaced
the
sink, we
ended up at Builders Square (or similar home improvement
store)
and
looking at
their discards (something that someone else ordered and
couldn't/wouldn't use for
one reason or another). Many times they may have had a
little
chip
or
scratch in
the underside - nothing noticeable or functionable - but
always
at
a
great
reduction and usable. Might be something to think about
or
look
into.

What a great NSV, fitting easily into those size 10
jeans,
smaller
tops
and much
smaller undergarments. I love the clothing victories
(yet
still
hate
to
shop).
Where did you ever find jeans without stretch though? I
swear
that
seems to be
all that is being made these days! BUT ... don't write
them
off
dear.
They are
wonderfully comfortable, and I've found rather
flattering.
They
hug
ya
in all
those places we didn't use to like being hugged. G

Fight back with those other personalities of yours that
are
currently
letting
themselves be heard. Do not let them put a damper on
your
motivation
or
spirit.
You know why you should go further, just have to make
sure
you
are
louder than
those other voices. C'mon Linda (wow, was THAT hard for
me
to
say),
you
can do
it!

Joyce



On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 08:54:10 -0600, Prairie Roots

wrote:

My current weight: 159.6 lbs
Weight change since my last recorded weight: 0.0 lbs
Total weight change to date: -72.4 lbs

Today I'm grateful to see no change in my weight from
last
week.
I've
been on a mental plateau this week. Hitting the 70+
total
loss
and
getting below 160 is doing a job on my motivation to
keep
going.
This
is further than I expected to go; some part of me I
haven't
heard
from
before is wondering why I think I should even further.

It probably didn't help that, on a whim, I tried on a
jacket
formerly
worn by one of my skinny daughters and discovered that
it
fit.
I
also
went shopping for some new jeans and got into a classic
fit
size
10
petite withOUT stretch. When I also discovered that the
medium
tops
fit nicely, I realized I should head over to the
foundations
department for new undergarments and give my girls a
new
lift.
Since
starting WW, I've gone down from 44DD to 38D.

My food was off this week. More importantly, I didn't
exercise
even
once. I'm on a rollercoaster ride with the impending
construction
work
on my kitchen and bathroom. My current dilemma is
deciding
what
kind
of kitchen sink I want and how much of my construction
budget
I
want
to spend on it. I still haven't gotten my bike. Later
today
I'll
have
to call and find out if I need to get cranky. The bus
strike
started
and I'm carpooling, leaving earlier than usual and
getting
home
later.
I'm starting with a new hospice patient whose health
issues.
A
major
project I've been involved with at work is nearing
completion
and
morphing into an even bigger project.

All of this is to say that I took a bit of a breather
from
WW
this
week to marvel at my overall progress and to focus on a
few
other
pressing issues. That I ended up maintaining is a
wonder.

It's the best day of my life!

Linda P
232/159.6/WW goal 145
joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

Definitely. You do have to know your prices and your merchandise, or fall into
the trap of *thinking* you are getting a good deal. They did have a sale a month
or so ago, buy one sweater get the second for half price. I looked at the website
and noticed that by this method the prices were actually much higher than I had
paid for the exact same items earlier in the year. Yup, raised the prices to the
normal retail price then knocked 50% off ONE item ... definitely not a bargain by
my standards. I don't buy anything there than isn't on sale ... what I consider a
GOOD sale. And much of my shopping is also done when they offer the $10 gift
cards for every $50 purchase ... I hit the clearance stuff or things I desperately
need (and use the coupons I get in the mail).

The grocery stores are the same around here, with the buy one get one deals - not
a bargain in my mind unless I have fantastic coupons or something is very cheap.

Joyce

On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 02:03:25 GMT, "Laura" wrote:

The running joke in our house is "look, Kohl's is having a sale".

I think that they purposely raise their prices so that they can get people
to come to their sales. Its a mind game. Otherwise their prices are too high
for us.

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Wow Deb, that is amazing! Our Kohl's has fantastic sale prices that seem
to run
all the time. Regular prices are high if compared to Wal-mart - but
quality is
better and all are higher brand names. But you can't beat their
constantly
running sales. How odd that it would be so different in other localities.

Joyce

On Tue, 9 Mar 2004 18:47:13 -0800, "Deb in Northern California"
wrote:

We had a Kohl's open in our town last week. This was the first wave of
stores to open in Nor Cal. I was very disappointed in the store and the
quality of merchandise and the prices were on the high side as far as I
was
concerned. But that is just my observation of going there last night and
looking for a strapless bra for my youngest daughter. $30+ for a bra
that
hold barely anything. She is a 34A.

Debbie

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Yup, definitely younger category ... you are the same age as our oldest
girl
(she'll be 30 in June). She also loves Gap, Banana Republic, Eddie
Bauer,
Express, etc. To me, the *normal* prices at all these stores are too
expensive.
Again, probably an age thing. What I think is expensive, she thinks is
reasonable. G I'm more of a Kohl's/Penney's type shopper. G

Joyce

On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 19:16:46 -0600, "skiur"
wrote:

I'll be thirty this year, so I guess I qualify in the younger
category.
I'm
also all of 5 ft 3 in and my torso seems to be proportioned--I
wouldn't
know
since it's been submerged under the weight for so long.

It's certainly clearance time. We'll be going to Banana Republic for
dh
soon...I have a feeling sweaters will be inexpensive soon. Last year
we
got
him cashmere/silk blends for $7/ea.

Julie, who loves to get great bargains on clothing.


"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
I did buy one pair of Gap jeans on clearance, was a great deal for
$10.
You will
get into that XL shirt. If you're younger, you probably don't mind
those
shorter
styles anyway. My problem is that all my height is from the waist
up -
so
shirts
that are cut to hit at the waist normally, will hit me even higher
up.
Not a
pretty picture on this old lady. G I did find some terrific buys
after
Christmas ... mens cotton sweaters, marked down to $6. These were
cut
so
short, I
can't imagine any man wearing them. But they fit me perfectly, and
are
just plain
unisex styling. Guess it's time once again to check out the
clearance
racks. I
found out today that what few hooded sweatshirts I have, are all
size L
(mens) ...
much too big. This should be the right time to pick stuff up
cheaply.

Joyce

On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 10:44:48 -0600, "skiur"
wrote:

No, but on clearance they are very attractive. I have a shirt from
the
Gap
that I bought specifically as a NSV clothing shirt. I paid $1.99
for
it.
I
do hope to get into it at some point, it's an XL.

Julie


"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
I do have two pairs of jeans from the gap, but they don't seem to
fit
as
well as
these others I have found. They fit *ok* and are acceptable ...
except
for the
price. G Shirts at the Gap are definitely made for younger
females,
those with
little to no chest factor. G Even my 105 pound daughter has to
take
a
medium
there. They seem to be cut small and short ... not good options
for
women
with
longer body lengths.

Joyce

On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 15:01:04 -0600, "skiur"
wrote:

Have you been to the Gap? I know they are more expensive, but
if
they
fit
right....

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
I tend to have the same thing, hard to stay focused 100% of
the
time
when
everyone
is fussing over us. I find I kind of relax just a little too
much.
G
But,
that's ok too - sometimes you just have to relax, as long as
we
don't
make
it a
forever thing.

I have a tough time with jeans too, had someone the other day
tell
me
to
try the
junior sizing (yeah, right, sure - not gonna happen unless I
want
to
totally
humiliate myself). Relaxed fit is too big in the legs, hips
and
thighs -
look
like clown pants on me. I have a pair of carpenter pants on
today,
size 6
and
very baggy. I could take a 4 in these and probably still have
a
bit
of
room to
spare - they don't come in 4's. In lower rise jeans I seem to
need
a
smaller size
than in regular cut higher waist - the waist is too snug for
my
liking
and
I do
like to be able to breath. I haven't tried the Gloria
Vanderbilt
jeans,
always
made the assumption that those *designer* names wouldn't work
for
me -
maybe I
will give them a try as I saw some cute capri's in a sales ad
this
week.
I found
a new one that does fit me well though, only ones in the Lee
brand
that
aren't
baggy in the legs ... they have a *one true fit* or something
like
that -
fits me
very nicely ... everywhere. Same with the Levi Nouveau but I
forget
which
number
(why do they assign the styles numbers???). The levi's have a
little
stretch to
them, great in the waist but tend to get a tad baggy in the
seat
after
a
few
hours. Oh well, I like the baggy better than the constant
snug I
used
to
deal
with. g Shirts are an entirely different story with me -
range
anywhere
from a
small to a large, depending on the store and brand. I have no
cl
ue.

Joyce

On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 11:13:37 -0600, Prairie Roots

wrote:

Thanks Joyce. I got a lot of compliments and attention at
work
this
week regarding my weight loss, people saying things about how
confident I appear, that I have a more positive attitude, and
just
plain look great. I think my head got a little puffed up from
all
the
compliments and that's what started all the other crazy
thinking.

It's hard to find jeans that fit me. The ubiquitous relaxed
fit
jeans
don't work for me; I carry my weight in my tummy, not my hips
and
thighs. Of all the brands I've tried, Gloria Vanderbilt
classic
fit
jeans fit me best. I too like a little stretch in my jeans,
makes
bending over not just a breathtaking experience. LOL But
couldn't
find
any this shopping trip and the non-stretch jeans don't cut
off
my
oxygen supply.

Thanks again for your encouragement.

Linda P

On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 09:58:12 -0600, Joyce
wrote:

Hey, taking a week of following the program and maintaining
is
fantastic! Call it
practice for the future, you've proved to yourself that it
can
be
done.
Congrats
on holding firm this week.

Wish I could help you with the sink decision ... my
decisions
are
always
to go on
the cheap side of things. G I think both times we've
replaced
the
sink, we
ended up at Builders Square (or similar home improvement
store)
and
looking at
their discards (something that someone else ordered and
couldn't/wouldn't use for
one reason or another). Many times they may have had a
little
chip
or
scratch in
the underside - nothing noticeable or functionable - but
always
at
a
great
reduction and usable. Might be something to think about or
look
into.

What a great NSV, fitting easily into those size 10 jeans,
smaller
tops
and much
smaller undergarments. I love the clothing victories (yet
still
hate
to
shop).
Where did you ever find jeans without stretch though? I
swear
that
seems to be
all that is being made these days! BUT ... don't write them
off
dear.
They are
wonderfully comfortable, and I've found rather flattering.
They
hug
ya
in all
those places we didn't use to like being hugged. G

Fight back with those other personalities of yours that are
currently
letting
themselves be heard. Do not let them put a damper on your
motivation
or
spirit.
You know why you should go further, just have to make sure
you
are
louder than
those other voices. C'mon Linda (wow, was THAT hard for me
to
say),
you
can do
it!

Joyce



On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 08:54:10 -0600, Prairie Roots

wrote:

My current weight: 159.6 lbs
Weight change since my last recorded weight: 0.0 lbs
Total weight change to date: -72.4 lbs

Today I'm grateful to see no change in my weight from last
week.
I've
been on a mental plateau this week. Hitting the 70+ total
loss
and
getting below 160 is doing a job on my motivation to keep
going.
This
is further than I expected to go; some part of me I haven't
heard
from
before is wondering why I think I should even further.

It probably didn't help that, on a whim, I tried on a
jacket
formerly
worn by one of my skinny daughters and discovered that it
fit.
I
also
went shopping for some new jeans and got into a classic fit
size
10
petite withOUT stretch. When I also discovered that the
medium
tops
fit nicely, I realized I should head over to the
foundations
department for new undergarments and give my girls a new
lift.
Since
starting WW, I've gone down from 44DD to 38D.

My food was off this week. More importantly, I didn't
exercise
even
once. I'm on a rollercoaster ride with the impending
construction
work
on my kitchen and bathroom. My current dilemma is deciding
what
kind
of kitchen sink I want and how much of my construction
budget
I
want
to spend on it. I still haven't gotten my bike. Later today
I'll
have
to call and find out if I need to get cranky. The bus
strike
started
and I'm carpooling, leaving earlier than usual and getting
home
later.
I'm starting with a new hospice patient whose health
issues. A
major
project I've been involved with at work is nearing
completion
and
morphing into an even bigger project.

All of this is to say that I took a bit of a breather from
WW
this
week to marvel at my overall progress and to focus on a few
other
pressing issues. That I ended up maintaining is a wonder.

It's the best day of my life!

Linda P
232/159.6/WW goal 145
joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

I also hate shopping so it doesn't get done often. I don't buy myself much (guess
that happens when you have kids) so really have no idea of what being good to
*myself* means. I do get more enjoyment out of new toys and gadgets though, so
when splurging I move into that direction ... new computer, digital camera,
software, etc. g And yes, designer clothing is definitely over rated. I am
finding though, that there definitely are specific brands I can and can't wear due
to difference in cuts. Dang! And here we thought that when losing the weight
things would be easier. I now have to try things on even more than before. g

Joyce

On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 20:10:53 -0600, "skiur" wrote:

yup. Very similar in age.

Different people have different definitions of what "being good" to oneself
means. I'm not a fan of shopping so buying stuff to cover myself isn't
"being good" to myself. A few years ago, being good to myself would have
meant going out and eating whatever I wanted. After I checked out the size
of my behind, I decided there had to be a different and better way. I'm
sure you did deserve to buy something brand spanking new from a designer
store. I would have said the same thing, but now that you did it you find
it to be over rated.

A lot of people love to shop. I'm only one of them if I can find something
on a great sale and it has to be good quality too.

Julie


"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Aha! So you are within a few days/weeks of my daughters age. G See, I
never
should lump everyone into one category (such as generations) as there are
probably
more around that have common sense ... as you appear to. g But ... I
do have
to admit to shopping at the Gap on occassion, and although I haven't
purchased
anything for myself at Eddie Bauer - I do like their clothing styles.
Sometimes
we just have to splurge on ourselves. My very first *new* outfit was from
Gap. I
had not one pair of jeans left, nor any shirts and it was when I finally
reached
goal. My youngest girl told me I deserved them .. I believed her.

Joyce

On Tue, 9 Mar 2004 18:08:21 -0600, "skiur" wrote:

I think all those stores are too expensive too. I only shop there in case
of
emergency or during clearance sales.

Btw, I'm June too.

Julie
"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Yup, definitely younger category ... you are the same age as our oldest
girl
(she'll be 30 in June). She also loves Gap, Banana Republic, Eddie
Bauer,
Express, etc. To me, the *normal* prices at all these stores are too
expensive.
Again, probably an age thing. What I think is expensive, she thinks is
reasonable. G I'm more of a Kohl's/Penney's type shopper. G

Joyce

On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 19:16:46 -0600, "skiur"
wrote:

I'll be thirty this year, so I guess I qualify in the younger
category.
I'm
also all of 5 ft 3 in and my torso seems to be proportioned--I
wouldn't
know
since it's been submerged under the weight for so long.

It's certainly clearance time. We'll be going to Banana Republic for
dh
soon...I have a feeling sweaters will be inexpensive soon. Last year
we
got
him cashmere/silk blends for $7/ea.

Julie, who loves to get great bargains on clothing.


"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
I did buy one pair of Gap jeans on clearance, was a great deal for
$10.
You will
get into that XL shirt. If you're younger, you probably don't mind
those
shorter
styles anyway. My problem is that all my height is from the waist
up -
so
shirts
that are cut to hit at the waist normally, will hit me even higher
up.
Not a
pretty picture on this old lady. G I did find some terrific buys
after
Christmas ... mens cotton sweaters, marked down to $6. These were
cut
so
short, I
can't imagine any man wearing them. But they fit me perfectly, and
are
just plain
unisex styling. Guess it's time once again to check out the
clearance
racks. I
found out today that what few hooded sweatshirts I have, are all
size L
(mens) ...
much too big. This should be the right time to pick stuff up
cheaply.

Joyce

On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 10:44:48 -0600, "skiur"
wrote:

No, but on clearance they are very attractive. I have a shirt from
the
Gap
that I bought specifically as a NSV clothing shirt. I paid $1.99
for
it.
I
do hope to get into it at some point, it's an XL.

Julie


"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
I do have two pairs of jeans from the gap, but they don't seem to
fit
as
well as
these others I have found. They fit *ok* and are acceptable ...
except
for the
price. G Shirts at the Gap are definitely made for younger
females,
those with
little to no chest factor. G Even my 105 pound daughter has to
take
a
medium
there. They seem to be cut small and short ... not good options
for
women
with
longer body lengths.

Joyce

On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 15:01:04 -0600, "skiur"
wrote:

Have you been to the Gap? I know they are more expensive, but
if
they
fit
right....

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
I tend to have the same thing, hard to stay focused 100% of
the
time
when
everyone
is fussing over us. I find I kind of relax just a little too
much.
G
But,
that's ok too - sometimes you just have to relax, as long as
we
don't
make
it a
forever thing.

I have a tough time with jeans too, had someone the other day
tell
me
to
try the
junior sizing (yeah, right, sure - not gonna happen unless I
want
to
totally
humiliate myself). Relaxed fit is too big in the legs, hips
and
thighs -
look
like clown pants on me. I have a pair of carpenter pants on
today,
size 6
and
very baggy. I could take a 4 in these and probably still have
a
bit
of
room to
spare - they don't come in 4's. In lower rise jeans I seem to
need
a
smaller size
than in regular cut higher waist - the waist is too snug for
my
liking
and
I do
like to be able to breath. I haven't tried the Gloria
Vanderbilt
jeans,
always
made the assumption that those *designer* names wouldn't work
for
me -
maybe I
will give them a try as I saw some cute capri's in a sales ad
this
week.
I found
a new one that does fit me well though, only ones in the Lee
brand
that
aren't
baggy in the legs ... they have a *one true fit* or something
like
that -
fits me
very nicely ... everywhere. Same with the Levi Nouveau but I
forget
which
number
(why do they assign the styles numbers???). The levi's have a
little
stretch to
them, great in the waist but tend to get a tad baggy in the
seat
after
a
few
hours. Oh well, I like the baggy better than the constant
snug I
used
to
deal
with. g Shirts are an entirely different story with me -
range
anywhere
from a
small to a large, depending on the store and brand. I have no
clue.

Joyce

On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 11:13:37 -0600, Prairie Roots

wrote:

Thanks Joyce. I got a lot of compliments and attention at
work
this
week regarding my weight loss, people saying things about how
confident I appear, that I have a more positive attitude, and
just
plain look great. I think my head got a little puffed up from
all
the
compliments and that's what started all the other crazy
thinking.

It's hard to find jeans that fit me. The ubiquitous relaxed
fit
jeans
don't work for me; I carry my weight in my tummy, not my hips
and
thighs. Of all the brands I've tried, Gloria Vanderbilt
classic
fit
jeans fit me best. I too like a little stretch in my jeans,
makes
bending over not just a breathtaking experience. LOL But
couldn't
find
any this shopping trip and the non-stretch jeans don't cut
off
my
oxygen supply.

Thanks again for your encouragement.

Linda P

On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 09:58:12 -0600, Joyce
wrote:

Hey, taking a week of following the program and maintaining
is
fantastic! Call it
practice for the future, you've proved to yourself that it
can
be
done.
Congrats
on holding firm this week.

Wish I could help you with the sink decision ... my
decisions
are
always
to go on
the cheap side of things. G I think both times we've
replaced
the
sink, we
ended up at Builders Square (or similar home improvement
store)
and
looking at
their discards (something that someone else ordered and
couldn't/wouldn't use for
one reason or another). Many times they may have had a
little
chip
or
scratch in
the underside - nothing noticeable or functionable - but
always
at
a
great
reduction and usable. Might be something to think about or
look
into.

What a great NSV, fitting easily into those size 10 jeans,
smaller
tops
and much
smaller undergarments. I love the clothing victories (yet
still
hate
to
shop).
Where did you ever find jeans without stretch though? I
swear
that
seems to be
all that is being made these days! BUT ... don't write them
off
dear.
They are
wonderfully comfortable, and I've found rather flattering.
They
hug
ya
in all
those places we didn't use to like being hugged. G

Fight back with those other personalities of yours that are
currently
letting
themselves be heard. Do not let them put a damper on your
motivation
or
spirit.
You know why you should go further, just have to make sure
you
are
louder than
those other voices. C'mon Linda (wow, was THAT hard for me
to
say),
you
can do
it!

Joyce



On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 08:54:10 -0600, Prairie Roots

wrote:

My current weight: 159.6 lbs
Weight change since my last recorded weight: 0.0 lbs
Total weight change to date: -72.4 lbs

Today I'm grateful to see no change in my weight from last
week.
I've
been on a mental plateau this week. Hitting the 70+ total
loss
and
getting below 160 is doing a job on my motivation to keep
going.
This
is further than I expected to go; some part of me I haven't
heard
from
before is wondering why I think I should even further.

It probably didn't help that, on a whim, I tried on a
jacket
formerly
worn by one of my skinny daughters and discovered that it
fit.
I
also
went shopping for some new jeans and got into a classic fit
size
10
petite withOUT stretch. When I also discovered that the
medium
tops
fit nicely, I realized I should head over to the
foundations
department for new undergarments and give my girls a new
lift.
Since
starting WW, I've gone down from 44DD to 38D.

My food was off this week. More importantly, I didn't
exercise
even
once. I'm on a rollercoaster ride with the impending
construction
work
on my kitchen and bathroom. My current dilemma is deciding
what
kind
of kitchen sink I want and how much of my construction
budget
I
want
to spend on it. I still haven't gotten my bike. Later today
I'll
have
to call and find out if I need to get cranky. The bus
strike
started
and I'm carpooling, leaving earlier than usual and getting
home
later.
I'm starting with a new hospice patient whose health
issues. A
major
project I've been involved with at work is nearing
completion
and
morphing into an even bigger project.

All of this is to say that I took a bit of a breather from
WW
this
week to marvel at my overall progress and to focus on a few
other
pressing issues. That I ended up maintaining is a wonder.

It's the best day of my life!

Linda P
232/159.6/WW goal 145
joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

I moved here last April....and there was snow on the ground a week later.
Is that what you mean by cruel?

"Joyce" wrote in message
...
Well, let me know when you do get over it. I've lived here close to 47
years now
and still am not over it. January rolls around and we start thinking we
are at
the end of winter ... Feb makes us think spring is coming ... March is a
tease and
April is plain cruel. G And to think that this was really a very mild
winter by
normal standards. We really didn't get hit with any nasty stuff until
after the
first of the year. We just got hit with it all at once. LOL

Joyce

On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 19:55:30 -0600, "skiur" wrote:

*groan*

Yes. First Chicago winter. I'll get over it-I hope.

Julie

"Joyce" wrote in message
news
Is this your first winter in the Chicago area, Julie? If so ... be
forewarned ...
it can, and will, be like this for a few more months. g The old
saying
holds
true ... if you don't like the current weather, wait a few minutes. g

Joyce

On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 17:36:27 -0600, "skiur"
wrote:

*mrph*

I'm just irritated that winter seems to be back these few days and I
was
so
looking forward to warmer weather. I feel cheated somehow. This is
the
furthest north that I've lived.

Julie, cranking the heat back up.


"Deb in Northern California" wrote in message
...
But we never have flurries or temps like that unless we are having a
severe
cold spell.

Debbie

"skiur" wrote in message
...
You really don't need to remind us about the temps at your house
(I'm
in
Illinois). I was talking to a friend of mine in Northern
California
last
night and they had the air condition on--we had flurries today. I
just
got
back from the bookstore and there was frost on my car. I think
the
car
said
it was 34F. Really...no need to rub it in.

Julie

"Deb in Northern California" wrote in
message
...
Mom never had trouble keeping the water hot in her SS sink. For
that
matter, up until I was about 5 years old, I took all my baths in
the
kitchen
sink and then my girls did when they were at grandma's house
too.
I
guess
temperature is relative to the outside temps too and most times
the
temps
where I grew up ranged from the 50F-80F. So the cold of where
you
are
versus where we are are completely different.

BTW, spring has sprung here. We broke records yesterday with
77F
and
today
we were supposed to be over 80F.

Debbie

"Prairie Roots" wrote in message
...
The reasons Joyce lists below are the primary reasons my three
friends
gave for disliking SS. Other reasons include the noise of SS
when
hit
with a pan or tumbling tableware (forks, knives, spoons), and
the
inability to keep hot water hot when handwashing dishes.

Honestly, I've never noticed the noise factor. Water spots
don't
bother me at all. And I use a dishwasher. You can find a
picture
of
me
at www.flylady.net. I'm the frazzled one in the upper left
corner
of
the home page.

I'm ordering my SS sink today.

On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 23:03:10 -0600, "skiur"

wrote:

Forgive me, but why in the world do your friends not care for
stainless?

Julie, who can't fathom that idea.

"Prairie Roots" wrote in message
.. .
Thanks Lee. My sink choices are quickly narrowing to
stainless
steel.
I've been listening to a couple of friends who don't care
for
stainless, but I have SS now and don't seem to mind the
problems
they've listed. I'll be buying a new gas range/stovetop and
dishwasher, too, and am considering stainless steel finish.

On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 23:27:49 -0600, "Miss Violette"
wrote:

I am glad to see your attitude is so wonderful. Get
stainless
steel
whatever configuration you get on the sink, I love
stainless
steel,
Lee
Prairie Roots wrote in message
.. .
My current weight: 159.6 lbs
Weight change since my last recorded weight: 0.0 lbs
Total weight change to date: -72.4 lbs

Today I'm grateful to see no change in my weight from
last
week.
I've
been on a mental plateau this week. Hitting the 70+
total
loss
and
getting below 160 is doing a job on my motivation to
keep
going.
This
is further than I expected to go; some part of me I
haven't
heard
from
before is wondering why I think I should even further.

It probably didn't help that, on a whim, I tried on a
jacket
formerly
worn by one of my skinny daughters and discovered that
it
fit.
I
also
went shopping for some new jeans and got into a classic
fit
size
10
petite withOUT stretch. When I also discovered that the
medium
tops
fit nicely, I realized I should head over to the
foundations
department for new undergarments and give my girls a new
lift.
Since
starting WW, I've gone down from 44DD to 38D.

My food was off this week. More importantly, I didn't
exercise
even
once. I'm on a rollercoaster ride with the impending
construction
work
on my kitchen and bathroom. My current dilemma is
deciding
what
kind
of kitchen sink I want and how much of my construction
budget
I
want
to spend on it. I still haven't gotten my bike. Later
today
I'll
have
to call and find out if I need to get cranky. The bus
strike
started
and I'm carpooling, leaving earlier than usual and
getting
home
later.
I'm starting with a new hospice patient whose health
issues. A
major
project I've been involved with at work is nearing
completion
and
morphing into an even bigger project.

All of this is to say that I took a bit of a breather
from
WW
this
week to marvel at my overall progress and to focus on a
few
other
pressing issues. That I ended up maintaining is a
wonder.

It's the best day of my life!
--
Linda P
week 54: 232/159.6/WW goal 145
RAFL week 9: 167/159.6/154
next mini-goals: 157 (75 lbs total loss); 155 (10 lbs to
WW
goal);
154
( RAFL goal)
started WW 22-Feb-2003 | 10% target: 1-May-2003
5'4" | 50 | F




Linda P
232/159.6/WW goal 145
joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003


Linda P
232/159.6/WW goal 145
joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003