New to the group

Hello all, this is quite an informative group. Thanks for all the tips,
recipes and general support I have seen here in the week I have been doing
Atkins. I was a Scarsdale devotee back in the 70's (and remember the
rivalry between Dr. T and Dr. A), and then jumped on the high-carb, low fat
craze of the 80's. I have done Nutri Systems and Weight Watchers twice
each.

So it is quite a revelation for me to find myself eating bacon and eggs,
unlimited olive oil, ground beef (instead of 99% lean turkey). The
afternoon of the second day I felt a little odd (it was like a hangover
actually), but since then I feel great. I don't even miss my gourmet bagels
in the morning, believe it or not!

I am hoping to lose 25.5 lbs in total, and since I have started LC a week
ago I have lost 4.5 (and I am following a course of antibiotics while
beginning Atkins). I have a couple of questions to throw out if I may:

1. I am considering staying on induction past the two weeks. I don't know
if my antibiotic intake (augmentin) is contributing to a slower weight loss,
or if it is because I am one of those high metablic resistance types. What
would indicate one should stay on induction, and for how long?

2. I see all these carb-safe chocolate bars around, and see a high carb
count followed by the fiber count and something called "sugar alcohols."
What are they? Do they get subtracted from the carb count? I hear they may
cause side effects?

Thanks for your time

Onoma

oops, forgot my stats (see I told you I am new)

139.5/135/115

onoma wrote:

2. I see all these carb-safe chocolate bars around, and see a high carb
count followed by the fiber count and something called "sugar alcohols."
What are they? Do they get subtracted from the carb count? I hear they may
cause side effects?

It's probably better to just avoid those. Russell Stover makes really
tasty low-carb candies that are OK in limited amounts after induction,
but many people say they get intestinal reactions to them. FWIW, they
never bothered me.

Most of the low-carb drinks, bars, and treats that I have tried are just
plain god-awful. They just don't taste very good. Ditto with most low
carb breads. Guck. IMHO, you'll enjoy the diet more if you just stick
to real foods.

"Ignoramus29721" wrote in message
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In article 8fc1c.25306$qL1.12275@fed1read02, onoma wrote:
oops, forgot my stats (see I told you I am new)

139.5/135/115



how tall are you onoma?

Regarding fake low carb candy: low carb junk food is still junk food.



I am a petite 4'11"

I was never much of a candy eater anyway.

Thanks for the info

In article %dc1c.25305$qL1.3146@fed1read02,
"onoma" wrote:

Hello all, this is quite an informative group. Thanks for all the tips,
recipes and general support I have seen here in the week I have been doing
Atkins. I was a Scarsdale devotee back in the 70's (and remember the
rivalry between Dr. T and Dr. A), and then jumped on the high-carb, low fat
craze of the 80's. I have done Nutri Systems and Weight Watchers twice
each.

So it is quite a revelation for me to find myself eating bacon and eggs,
unlimited olive oil, ground beef (instead of 99% lean turkey). The
afternoon of the second day I felt a little odd (it was like a hangover
actually), but since then I feel great. I don't even miss my gourmet bagels
in the morning, believe it or not!

I am hoping to lose 25.5 lbs in total, and since I have started LC a week
ago I have lost 4.5 (and I am following a course of antibiotics while
beginning Atkins). I have a couple of questions to throw out if I may:

1. I am considering staying on induction past the two weeks. I don't know
if my antibiotic intake (augmentin) is contributing to a slower weight loss,
or if it is because I am one of those high metablic resistance types. What
would indicate one should stay on induction, and for how long?

First off, your weight loss is NOT slow. You are already pretty small,
comparatively, so for your height and weight 4.5 pounds is excellent loss.


2. I see all these carb-safe chocolate bars around, and see a high carb
count followed by the fiber count and something called "sugar alcohols."
What are they? Do they get subtracted from the carb count? I hear they may
cause side effects?


They can cause side effects, those sugar alcohols are not _supposed_ to
"count" but many people find they do count and lead to stalls. Some of the
other side effects are high cost and nasty taste.

Thanks for your time

Onoma



--
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http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

In article %dc1c.25305$qL1.3146@fed1read02, says...
Hello all, this is quite an informative group. Thanks for all the tips,
recipes and general support I have seen here in the week I have been doing
Atkins.

Hi Onoma, welcome to the group!

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205/169/125 - 5'2.5"
Atkins since 6/14/03
Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

Hey there Onoma

Welcome.

With regards staying on induction, I think that Dr A did mention it in his
book. I really need to read it again. So far as I remember when he
discussed a case study, he did keep some on induction for longer. Although
I can't remember the circumstances, there is a time when it's apt.

Looks like it's time for me to go read up again.

Well done on your numbers.

Kaye

In article %dc1c.25305$qL1.3146@fed1read02,
"onoma" wrote:

Hello all, this is quite an informative group. Thanks for all the tips,
recipes and general support I have seen here in the week I have been doing
Atkins. I was a Scarsdale devotee back in the 70's (and remember the
rivalry between Dr. T and Dr. A), and then jumped on the high-carb, low
fat
craze of the 80's. I have done Nutri Systems and Weight Watchers twice
each.

So it is quite a revelation for me to find myself eating bacon and eggs,
unlimited olive oil, ground beef (instead of 99% lean turkey). The
afternoon of the second day I felt a little odd (it was like a hangover
actually), but since then I feel great. I don't even miss my gourmet
bagels
in the morning, believe it or not!

I am hoping to lose 25.5 lbs in total, and since I have started LC a week
ago I have lost 4.5 (and I am following a course of antibiotics while
beginning Atkins). I have a couple of questions to throw out if I may:

1. I am considering staying on induction past the two weeks. I don't
know
if my antibiotic intake (augmentin) is contributing to a slower weight
loss,
or if it is because I am one of those high metablic resistance types.
What
would indicate one should stay on induction, and for how long?

Onoma,

Welcome to the group.

To answer the question of how your antibiotic might effect weight loss,
Google for "Augmentin prescribing information" and then search for the words
"hyperglycemia" or "hypoglycemia". That will tell you if the drug raises or
lowers blood sugars. If it either raises or lowers them, you may have more
trouble losing weight with a low carb diet as the drug may be playing with
your insulin levels.

I know that Bactrim can lower blood sugar, to the uncomfortably low levels
which will make you feel horrible, when combined with a low carb diet, but
I'm not sure about Augmentin.

Re the low carb products,
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/products.htm discusses them and
their questionable "net carb" claims in some detail.


--
Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. At goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes, hba1c
5.2.
Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

Low carb facts and figures, my weight-loss photos, tips, recipes,
strategies for dealing with diabetes and more at
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/...0Diagnosed.htm



"onoma" wrote in message
news:%dc1c.25305$qL1.3146@fed1read02...
Hello all, this is quite an informative group. Thanks for all the tips,
recipes and general support I have seen here in the week I have been doing
Atkins. I was a Scarsdale devotee back in the 70's (and remember the
rivalry between Dr. T and Dr. A), and then jumped on the high-carb, low
fat
craze of the 80's. I have done Nutri Systems and Weight Watchers twice
each.

So it is quite a revelation for me to find myself eating bacon and eggs,
unlimited olive oil, ground beef (instead of 99% lean turkey). The
afternoon of the second day I felt a little odd (it was like a hangover
actually), but since then I feel great. I don't even miss my gourmet
bagels
in the morning, believe it or not!

I am hoping to lose 25.5 lbs in total, and since I have started LC a week
ago I have lost 4.5 (and I am following a course of antibiotics while
beginning Atkins). I have a couple of questions to throw out if I may:

1. I am considering staying on induction past the two weeks. I don't
know
if my antibiotic intake (augmentin) is contributing to a slower weight
loss,
or if it is because I am one of those high metablic resistance types.
What
would indicate one should stay on induction, and for how long?

2. I see all these carb-safe chocolate bars around, and see a high carb
count followed by the fiber count and something called "sugar alcohols."
What are they? Do they get subtracted from the carb count? I hear they
may
cause side effects?

Thanks for your time

Onoma

onoma wrote:

1. I am considering staying on induction past the two weeks ... What
would indicate one should stay on induction, and for how long?

For people with under 100 to lose, 14 days is best. Extending is for
those with "a lot" to lose and if you spend a few years counting posts
you'll reach the conclusion that "a lot" is over 100. In particular
the examples in the book of folks staying low longer than the 6
month safety limit all still add over 100 to go at their 6 month point.

2. I see all these carb-safe chocolate bars around, and see a high carb
count followed by the fiber count and something called "sugar alcohols."
What are they? Do they get subtracted from the carb count? I hear they may
cause side effects?

They are the number one cause of stalls. Partially that's because the
claim that sugar alcohols can be deducted by everyone is nonsense and
sure enough the ones who need to count them tend to be folks who try
low carb diets. Other than stalls, the most common side effect is
"severe gastric distress" as in stay close to the toilet and tie
yourself down to avoid the rocket effect of flying off the seat from
the thrust of what is flying out at high speed.

onoma wrote:
Hello all, this is quite an informative group. Thanks for all the
tips, recipes and general support I have seen here in the week I
have been doing Atkins. I was a Scarsdale devotee back in the 70's
(and remember the rivalry between Dr. T and Dr. A), and then jumped
on the high-carb, low fat craze of the 80's. I have done Nutri
Systems and Weight Watchers twice each.

So it is quite a revelation for me to find myself eating bacon and
eggs, unlimited olive oil, ground beef (instead of 99% lean turkey).
The afternoon of the second day I felt a little odd (it was like a
hangover actually), but since then I feel great. I don't even miss
my gourmet bagels in the morning, believe it or not!

I am hoping to lose 25.5 lbs in total, and since I have started LC a
week ago I have lost 4.5 (and I am following a course of antibiotics
while beginning Atkins). I have a couple of questions to throw out
if I may:

1. I am considering staying on induction past the two weeks. I
don't know if my antibiotic intake (augmentin) is contributing to a
slower weight loss, or if it is because I am one of those high
metablic resistance types. What would indicate one should stay on
induction, and for how long?

2. I see all these carb-safe chocolate bars around, and see a high
carb count followed by the fiber count and something called "sugar
alcohols." What are they? Do they get subtracted from the carb
count? I hear they may cause side effects?

Thanks for your time

Onoma

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