"Carb Solutions" Bars and "Net Carbs"

Hello,

I recently bought a box of "Carb Solutions High Protein Bars", which
advertise anywhere from 2-3 "net carbs" (depending on the flavor).

I understand that the concept of "net carbs" is at least somewhat dubious,
but generally accepted to mean the number of "impact" carbs, i.e. Total
Carbs - Fiber - Sugar alcohols = "net/impact carbs".

However, this product (Chocolate Fudge Almond flavor) contains 15G Total
Carbs, 1G of fiber and (according to both the nutrition information and list
of ingredients) NO sugar alcohols to subtract from the total?

Any idea how they can promote this product as having "3 Net Carbs"???

I called the manufacturer, Richardson Labs, and got the runaround. Their
number is 1-888-776-5383.

-Mr. N

"Mr. N" wrote in message
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Hello,

I recently bought a box of "Carb Solutions High Protein Bars", which
advertise anywhere from 2-3 "net carbs" (depending on the flavor).

I understand that the concept of "net carbs" is at least somewhat
dubious, but generally accepted to mean the number of "impact" carbs,
i.e. Total Carbs - Fiber - Sugar alcohols = "net/impact carbs".

However, this product (Chocolate Fudge Almond flavor) contains 15G
Total Carbs, 1G of fiber and (according to both the nutrition
information and list of ingredients) NO sugar alcohols to subtract
from the total?

Any idea how they can promote this product as having "3 Net Carbs"???

I called the manufacturer, Richardson Labs, and got the runaround.
Their number is 1-888-776-5383.

They also subtract glycerine to come up with net carbs.

Ignoramus14640 wrote:
:: In article m, Mr.
:: N wrote:
::: Hello,
:::
::: I recently bought a box of "Carb Solutions High Protein Bars", which
::: advertise anywhere from 2-3 "net carbs" (depending on the flavor).
:::
::: I understand that the concept of "net carbs" is at least somewhat
::: dubious, but generally accepted to mean the number of "impact"
::: carbs, i.e. Total Carbs - Fiber - Sugar alcohols = "net/impact
::: carbs".
::
:: why subtract sugar alcohols? They are carbs and they do pack
:: calories.
::
::: However, this product (Chocolate Fudge Almond flavor) contains 15G
::: Total Carbs, 1G of fiber and (according to both the nutrition
::: information and list of ingredients) NO sugar alcohols to subtract
::: from the total?
:::
::: Any idea how they can promote this product as having "3 Net
::: Carbs"???
:::
::: I called the manufacturer, Richardson Labs, and got the runaround.
::: Their number is 1-888-776-5383.
::
:: Just don't buy that junk... Candy has not yet made anyone healthy and
:: slim...

No food, fake or real, has ever made anyone healthy and slim...

"Ignoramus14640" wrote in message
...
In article m, Mr. N
wrote:

why subtract sugar alcohols? They are carbs and they do pack calories.

My understanding is that they digest so slowly that their impact on blood
sugar is negligible. It's irrelevant in this case however - as the product
doesn't contain sugar alcohols. The sweetener used is sucralose.

Just don't buy that junk... Candy has not yet made anyone healthy and
slim...

It's not supposed to - it's just supposed to provide a high-protein,
low-carb snack. In my own case, as a control for diabetes rather than
weight loss.

--
-My Real Name

Ignoramus14640 wrote:
:: In article m, Mr.
:: N wrote:
:::
::: "Ignoramus14640" wrote in
::: message ...
:::: In article m,
:::: Mr. N wrote:
:::
:::: why subtract sugar alcohols? They are carbs and they do pack
:::: calories.
:::
::: My understanding is that they digest so slowly that their impact on
::: blood sugar is negligible. It's irrelevant in this case however -
::: as the product doesn't contain sugar alcohols. The sweetener used
::: is sucralose.
::
:: Well, slowly or not, they are still carbs with calories. And,
:: according to at least some evidence, in at least some people they do
:: digest quickly.
::

why in the hell are you lecturing him on SA when the product he is
interested doesn't even have them? get a friggin clue.

the product
doesn't contain sugar alcohols. The sweetener used is sucralose.

Splenda is made of sucralose....from their website: splenda.com

Sucralose, or SPLENDA® Brand Sweetener, the no calorie sweetening ingredient
in SPLENDA® No Calorie Sweetener, is not a carbohydrate and has been shown
in studies to have no effect on blood glucose control or insulin levels.
a.. Made from sugar, so it tastes like sugar
b.. No calories
c.. Suitable for people with diabetes
d.. Can be used in any food and beverage
e.. SPLENDA® Granular measures and pours like sugar
f.. Stays sweet during cooking and baking

"Sue G." wrote in message
...

doesn't contain sugar alcohols. The sweetener used is sucralose.

Splenda is made of sucralose....from their website: splenda.com

(head in hands, shaking in frustration)

I KNOW.

The bars I'm talking about contain sucralose/Splenda -- NOT sugar alcohols
(maltitol, etc.).

--
-My Real Name

doesn't contain sugar alcohols. The sweetener used is sucralose.

"Sue G." wrote:
Splenda is made of sucralose....from their website: splenda.com

"Mr. N" wrote:
I KNOW.
The bars I'm talking about contain sucralose/Splenda -- NOT sugar alcohols
(maltitol, etc.).

I'm posting from Google, so someone may have already raised this, but
isn't the point that while sucralose isn't a sugar alchohol, it may be
listed in the ingredients as a carb, because carbs listed on
nutritional information aren't a food group per se (like protein and
fat) but are 'everything else'? Meaning they are everything which
*isn't* either a protein or a fat. On the face of it this appears
slightly absurd, but they list fibre as a carb, even though the body
can't absorb it. So sucralose can be listed as a carb on nutritional
labels, and discounted in the way that sugar alcohols are. It also
strikes me that the culprit is more likely to be the filler they
sometimes use which as far as I can remember is dextrose, but I could
be wrong on that one. (Yes, I do remember that according to Jenny and
others perhaps SA's shouldn't be discounted.)

The difference, as I understand it (and my understanding may be dim),
between sucralose and sugar alchohols is that while the jury is out on
some SA's, there have been proper tests on sucralose and it really
*doesn't* affect blood sugar. That is excepting a placebo effect
which I do recall some people have.

This hasn't helped much, has it?

--
Lexin
(300/237/182)
LC since 9 June 2003

Is there glycerine/glycerol in these bars? It will not be listed as a sugar
alcohol. It will be included in the carb count, and it does raise the blood
sugar of many people with diabetes--especially if you are on a low carb diet
because the liver processes glycerine differently depending on whether it is
full of glycogen or not.

Bottom line: use your meter to verify that the bars don't raise your blood
sugar no matter what the label says (and check at 2 hours since some of
these lab-created food products are slower acting than you expect but cause
a delayed spike.)

-- Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. At goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
hba1c 5.2.
Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

Low carb facts and figures, my weight-loss photos, tips, recipes,
strategies for dealing with diabetes and more at
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/...0Diagnosed.htm



"Mr. N" wrote in message
s.com...

"Sue G." wrote in message
...

doesn't contain sugar alcohols. The sweetener used is sucralose.

Splenda is made of sucralose....from their website: splenda.com

(head in hands, shaking in frustration)

I KNOW.

The bars I'm talking about contain sucralose/Splenda -- NOT sugar alcohols
(maltitol, etc.).

--
-My Real Name

"Lexin" wrote in message
om...

I'm posting from Google, so someone may have already raised this, but
isn't the point that while sucralose isn't a sugar alchohol, it may be
listed in the ingredients as a carb, because carbs listed on
nutritional information aren't a food group per se (like protein and
fat) but are 'everything else'?

No.

--
-My Real Name