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Flexpoints???
Uhm..when I started WW four years ago it was called 1-2-3 points. My range
was 18-25 points daily. Now I suddenly heard the term "flexpoints" - how does that work? Is it more effective? |
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Flexpoints???
Guess it all depends on who you talk to. Some seem to like it, others don't.
It is almost exactly like the 1-2-3 plan as far as points are concerned, when you figure with flexpoints you aren't allowed to bank points (that's why they call them flex - you can use them anytime you want). In 1-2-3 your range allowed you 175 points per week, plus activity points. In flex, you now are given a strict daily target - 20 being what your old 1-2-3 range would be assigned. Based on this you would work with 140 daily points PLUS 35 weekly flex points ... for a total of 175 points per week. You can earn activity points, but can not bank them - they must be used the same day they are earned. Another change between these two programs is that in 1-2-3 there was no cap on the fiber grams when calculating points. In newer programs, you can only use a maximum of 4 g fiber. Where the complaints come in (and I still complain). WW replaced 1-2-3 with a newer points program (winning points). In this program they lowered the daily ranges by 2 points, so the equivalent of your old 1-2-3 range would change to 18-23. Banking was allowed. Based on this you were allowed 161 max weekly points, plus activity points which also could be banked. So switching to flex points from the winning points program, you have the allowance to consume 14 additional points per week. Many of us felt that adding 14 points per week hindered our weightloss, or made it very difficult to refigure the maintenance routine - so just stuck with the winning points program. One thing to definitely keep in mind is that you don't HAVE to use those flexpoints (and if we don't then it makes me think we still are going right back to the old winning points program - only the banking is done for us. g). Joyce On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 21:14:29 +0100, "Mette" wrote: Uhm..when I started WW four years ago it was called 1-2-3 points. My range was 18-25 points daily. Now I suddenly heard the term "flexpoints" - how does that work? Is it more effective? |
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Flexpoints???
Thank you Joyce!
Ya know, I think Ill just stick to my good ol' 1-2-3 - it worked then and it must work now) "Joyce" skrev i en meddelelse ... Guess it all depends on who you talk to. Some seem to like it, others don't. It is almost exactly like the 1-2-3 plan as far as points are concerned, when you figure with flexpoints you aren't allowed to bank points (that's why they call them flex - you can use them anytime you want). In 1-2-3 your range allowed you 175 points per week, plus activity points. In flex, you now are given a strict daily target - 20 being what your old 1-2-3 range would be assigned. Based on this you would work with 140 daily points PLUS 35 weekly flex points ... for a total of 175 points per week. You can earn activity points, but can not bank them - they must be used the same day they are earned. Another change between these two programs is that in 1-2-3 there was no cap on the fiber grams when calculating points. In newer programs, you can only use a maximum of 4 g fiber. Where the complaints come in (and I still complain). WW replaced 1-2-3 with a newer points program (winning points). In this program they lowered the daily ranges by 2 points, so the equivalent of your old 1-2-3 range would change to 18-23. Banking was allowed. Based on this you were allowed 161 max weekly points, plus activity points which also could be banked. So switching to flex points from the winning points program, you have the allowance to consume 14 additional points per week. Many of us felt that adding 14 points per week hindered our weightloss, or made it very difficult to refigure the maintenance routine - so just stuck with the winning points program. One thing to definitely keep in mind is that you don't HAVE to use those flexpoints (and if we don't then it makes me think we still are going right back to the old winning points program - only the banking is done for us. g). Joyce On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 21:14:29 +0100, "Mette" wrote: Uhm..when I started WW four years ago it was called 1-2-3 points. My range was 18-25 points daily. Now I suddenly heard the term "flexpoints" - how does that work? Is it more effective? |
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Flexpoints???
Is anyone able to post, please, the "old" 1-2-3 range of points / day
for various weights? Would be much appreciated. Regards Rick On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 22:25:22 +0100, "Mette" wrote: Thank you Joyce! Ya know, I think Ill just stick to my good ol' 1-2-3 - it worked then and it must work now) "Joyce" skrev i en meddelelse .. . Guess it all depends on who you talk to. Some seem to like it, others don't. It is almost exactly like the 1-2-3 plan as far as points are concerned, when you figure with flexpoints you aren't allowed to bank points (that's why they call them flex - you can use them anytime you want). In 1-2-3 your range allowed you 175 points per week, plus activity points. In flex, you now are given a strict daily target - 20 being what your old 1-2-3 range would be assigned. Based on this you would work with 140 daily points PLUS 35 weekly flex points ... for a total of 175 points per week. You can earn activity points, but can not bank them - they must be used the same day they are earned. Another change between these two programs is that in 1-2-3 there was no cap on the fiber grams when calculating points. In newer programs, you can only use a maximum of 4 g fiber. Where the complaints come in (and I still complain). WW replaced 1-2-3 with a newer points program (winning points). In this program they lowered the daily ranges by 2 points, so the equivalent of your old 1-2-3 range would change to 18-23. Banking was allowed. Based on this you were allowed 161 max weekly points, plus activity points which also could be banked. So switching to flex points from the winning points program, you have the allowance to consume 14 additional points per week. Many of us felt that adding 14 points per week hindered our weightloss, or made it very difficult to refigure the maintenance routine - so just stuck with the winning points program. One thing to definitely keep in mind is that you don't HAVE to use those flexpoints (and if we don't then it makes me think we still are going right back to the old winning points program - only the banking is done for us. g). Joyce On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 21:14:29 +0100, "Mette" wrote: Uhm..when I started WW four years ago it was called 1-2-3 points. My range was 18-25 points daily. Now I suddenly heard the term "flexpoints" - how does that work? Is it more effective? |
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Flexpoints???
Oh oh. I didn't realize that you can only use 4 fiber points. Thanks for
telling me. Sandy "Mette" wrote in message k... Thank you Joyce! Ya know, I think Ill just stick to my good ol' 1-2-3 - it worked then and it must work now) "Joyce" skrev i en meddelelse ... Guess it all depends on who you talk to. Some seem to like it, others don't. It is almost exactly like the 1-2-3 plan as far as points are concerned, when you figure with flexpoints you aren't allowed to bank points (that's why they call them flex - you can use them anytime you want). In 1-2-3 your range allowed you 175 points per week, plus activity points. In flex, you now are given a strict daily target - 20 being what your old 1-2-3 range would be assigned. Based on this you would work with 140 daily points PLUS 35 weekly flex points ... for a total of 175 points per week. You can earn activity points, but can not bank them - they must be used the same day they are earned. Another change between these two programs is that in 1-2-3 there was no cap on the fiber grams when calculating points. In newer programs, you can only use a maximum of 4 g fiber. Where the complaints come in (and I still complain). WW replaced 1-2-3 with a newer points program (winning points). In this program they lowered the daily ranges by 2 points, so the equivalent of your old 1-2-3 range would change to 18-23. Banking was allowed. Based on this you were allowed 161 max weekly points, plus activity points which also could be banked. So switching to flex points from the winning points program, you have the allowance to consume 14 additional points per week. Many of us felt that adding 14 points per week hindered our weightloss, or made it very difficult to refigure the maintenance routine - so just stuck with the winning points program. One thing to definitely keep in mind is that you don't HAVE to use those flexpoints (and if we don't then it makes me think we still are going right back to the old winning points program - only the banking is done for us. g). Joyce On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 21:14:29 +0100, "Mette" wrote: Uhm..when I started WW four years ago it was called 1-2-3 points. My range was 18-25 points daily. Now I suddenly heard the term "flexpoints" - how does that work? Is it more effective? |
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Flexpoints???
It is not 4 fiber points. It is 4 grams of fiber per item when calculating
the points the old 1-2-3 program, had unlimited fiber grams, so it really adjusted the points significantly. Debbie "Sandy W" wrote in message news:nopKb.754654$Tr4.2120505@attbi_s03... Oh oh. I didn't realize that you can only use 4 fiber points. Thanks for telling me. Sandy "Mette" wrote in message k... Thank you Joyce! Ya know, I think Ill just stick to my good ol' 1-2-3 - it worked then and it must work now) "Joyce" skrev i en meddelelse ... Guess it all depends on who you talk to. Some seem to like it, others don't. It is almost exactly like the 1-2-3 plan as far as points are concerned, when you figure with flexpoints you aren't allowed to bank points (that's why they call them flex - you can use them anytime you want). In 1-2-3 your range allowed you 175 points per week, plus activity points. In flex, you now are given a strict daily target - 20 being what your old 1-2-3 range would be assigned. Based on this you would work with 140 daily points PLUS 35 weekly flex points .... for a total of 175 points per week. You can earn activity points, but can not bank them - they must be used the same day they are earned. Another change between these two programs is that in 1-2-3 there was no cap on the fiber grams when calculating points. In newer programs, you can only use a maximum of 4 g fiber. Where the complaints come in (and I still complain). WW replaced 1-2-3 with a newer points program (winning points). In this program they lowered the daily ranges by 2 points, so the equivalent of your old 1-2-3 range would change to 18-23. Banking was allowed. Based on this you were allowed 161 max weekly points, plus activity points which also could be banked. So switching to flex points from the winning points program, you have the allowance to consume 14 additional points per week. Many of us felt that adding 14 points per week hindered our weightloss, or made it very difficult to refigure the maintenance routine - so just stuck with the winning points program. One thing to definitely keep in mind is that you don't HAVE to use those flexpoints (and if we don't then it makes me think we still are going right back to the old winning points program - only the banking is done for us. g). Joyce On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 21:14:29 +0100, "Mette" wrote: Uhm..when I started WW four years ago it was called 1-2-3 points. My range was 18-25 points daily. Now I suddenly heard the term "flexpoints" - how does that work? Is it more effective? |
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Flexpoints???
Thanks,
That what I meant. Sandy "Deb in Northern California" wrote in message ... It is not 4 fiber points. It is 4 grams of fiber per item when calculating the points the old 1-2-3 program, had unlimited fiber grams, so it really adjusted the points significantly. Debbie "Sandy W" wrote in message news:nopKb.754654$Tr4.2120505@attbi_s03... Oh oh. I didn't realize that you can only use 4 fiber points. Thanks for telling me. Sandy "Mette" wrote in message k... Thank you Joyce! Ya know, I think Ill just stick to my good ol' 1-2-3 - it worked then and it must work now) "Joyce" skrev i en meddelelse ... Guess it all depends on who you talk to. Some seem to like it, others don't. It is almost exactly like the 1-2-3 plan as far as points are concerned, when you figure with flexpoints you aren't allowed to bank points (that's why they call them flex - you can use them anytime you want). In 1-2-3 your range allowed you 175 points per week, plus activity points. In flex, you now are given a strict daily target - 20 being what your old 1-2-3 range would be assigned. Based on this you would work with 140 daily points PLUS 35 weekly flex points ... for a total of 175 points per week. You can earn activity points, but can not bank them - they must be used the same day they are earned. Another change between these two programs is that in 1-2-3 there was no cap on the fiber grams when calculating points. In newer programs, you can only use a maximum of 4 g fiber. Where the complaints come in (and I still complain). WW replaced 1-2-3 with a newer points program (winning points). In this program they lowered the daily ranges by 2 points, so the equivalent of your old 1-2-3 range would change to 18-23. Banking was allowed. Based on this you were allowed 161 max weekly points, plus activity points which also could be banked. So switching to flex points from the winning points program, you have the allowance to consume 14 additional points per week. Many of us felt that adding 14 points per week hindered our weightloss, or made it very difficult to refigure the maintenance routine - so just stuck with the winning points program. One thing to definitely keep in mind is that you don't HAVE to use those flexpoints (and if we don't then it makes me think we still are going right back to the old winning points program - only the banking is done for us. g). Joyce On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 21:14:29 +0100, "Mette" wrote: Uhm..when I started WW four years ago it was called 1-2-3 points. My range was 18-25 points daily. Now I suddenly heard the term "flexpoints" - how does that work? Is it more effective? |
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Flexpoints???
I think that is pretty much the same attitude many of us took ... if it ain't
broke, why fix it? I've become fairly accustomed to the flexpoint plan now, just have to remember to drop off 14 flexpoints at the beginning of the week. I also DO bank my activity points, and bank uneaten food points - but the weekly totals come out to the same amount of points as the old program. I've had to make adjustments because I do ww online, and their journal *forces* us to use their flexpoint system. Joyce On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 22:25:22 +0100, "Mette" wrote: Thank you Joyce! Ya know, I think Ill just stick to my good ol' 1-2-3 - it worked then and it must work now) "Joyce" skrev i en meddelelse .. . Guess it all depends on who you talk to. Some seem to like it, others don't. It is almost exactly like the 1-2-3 plan as far as points are concerned, when you figure with flexpoints you aren't allowed to bank points (that's why they call them flex - you can use them anytime you want). In 1-2-3 your range allowed you 175 points per week, plus activity points. In flex, you now are given a strict daily target - 20 being what your old 1-2-3 range would be assigned. Based on this you would work with 140 daily points PLUS 35 weekly flex points ... for a total of 175 points per week. You can earn activity points, but can not bank them - they must be used the same day they are earned. Another change between these two programs is that in 1-2-3 there was no cap on the fiber grams when calculating points. In newer programs, you can only use a maximum of 4 g fiber. Where the complaints come in (and I still complain). WW replaced 1-2-3 with a newer points program (winning points). In this program they lowered the daily ranges by 2 points, so the equivalent of your old 1-2-3 range would change to 18-23. Banking was allowed. Based on this you were allowed 161 max weekly points, plus activity points which also could be banked. So switching to flex points from the winning points program, you have the allowance to consume 14 additional points per week. Many of us felt that adding 14 points per week hindered our weightloss, or made it very difficult to refigure the maintenance routine - so just stuck with the winning points program. One thing to definitely keep in mind is that you don't HAVE to use those flexpoints (and if we don't then it makes me think we still are going right back to the old winning points program - only the banking is done for us. g). Joyce On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 21:14:29 +0100, "Mette" wrote: Uhm..when I started WW four years ago it was called 1-2-3 points. My range was 18-25 points daily. Now I suddenly heard the term "flexpoints" - how does that work? Is it more effective? |
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Flexpoints???
That was another change that was made from the 1-2-3 program, to the Winning
points program. I believe the logic was that people were loading up on highfiber items, counting them as zero or extremely low points in higher servings - and then wondering why no weightloss (or minimal) was happening. So the 4g fiber cap was introduced. Joyce On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 02:50:59 GMT, "Sandy W" wrote: Oh oh. I didn't realize that you can only use 4 fiber points. Thanks for telling me. Sandy "Mette" wrote in message . dk... Thank you Joyce! Ya know, I think Ill just stick to my good ol' 1-2-3 - it worked then and it must work now) "Joyce" skrev i en meddelelse ... Guess it all depends on who you talk to. Some seem to like it, others don't. It is almost exactly like the 1-2-3 plan as far as points are concerned, when you figure with flexpoints you aren't allowed to bank points (that's why they call them flex - you can use them anytime you want). In 1-2-3 your range allowed you 175 points per week, plus activity points. In flex, you now are given a strict daily target - 20 being what your old 1-2-3 range would be assigned. Based on this you would work with 140 daily points PLUS 35 weekly flex points ... for a total of 175 points per week. You can earn activity points, but can not bank them - they must be used the same day they are earned. Another change between these two programs is that in 1-2-3 there was no cap on the fiber grams when calculating points. In newer programs, you can only use a maximum of 4 g fiber. Where the complaints come in (and I still complain). WW replaced 1-2-3 with a newer points program (winning points). In this program they lowered the daily ranges by 2 points, so the equivalent of your old 1-2-3 range would change to 18-23. Banking was allowed. Based on this you were allowed 161 max weekly points, plus activity points which also could be banked. So switching to flex points from the winning points program, you have the allowance to consume 14 additional points per week. Many of us felt that adding 14 points per week hindered our weightloss, or made it very difficult to refigure the maintenance routine - so just stuck with the winning points program. One thing to definitely keep in mind is that you don't HAVE to use those flexpoints (and if we don't then it makes me think we still are going right back to the old winning points program - only the banking is done for us. g). Joyce On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 21:14:29 +0100, "Mette" wrote: Uhm..when I started WW four years ago it was called 1-2-3 points. My range was 18-25 points daily. Now I suddenly heard the term "flexpoints" - how does that work? Is it more effective? |
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Flexpoints???
That is the explanation we got from our WW leader.
"Joyce" wrote in message ... That was another change that was made from the 1-2-3 program, to the Winning points program. I believe the logic was that people were loading up on highfiber items, counting them as zero or extremely low points in higher servings - and then wondering why no weightloss (or minimal) was happening. So the 4g fiber cap was introduced. Joyce On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 02:50:59 GMT, "Sandy W" wrote: Oh oh. I didn't realize that you can only use 4 fiber points. Thanks for telling me. Sandy "Mette" wrote in message . dk... Thank you Joyce! Ya know, I think Ill just stick to my good ol' 1-2-3 - it worked then and it must work now) "Joyce" skrev i en meddelelse ... Guess it all depends on who you talk to. Some seem to like it, others don't. It is almost exactly like the 1-2-3 plan as far as points are concerned, when you figure with flexpoints you aren't allowed to bank points (that's why they call them flex - you can use them anytime you want). In 1-2-3 your range allowed you 175 points per week, plus activity points. In flex, you now are given a strict daily target - 20 being what your old 1-2-3 range would be assigned. Based on this you would work with 140 daily points PLUS 35 weekly flex points .... for a total of 175 points per week. You can earn activity points, but can not bank them - they must be used the same day they are earned. Another change between these two programs is that in 1-2-3 there was no cap on the fiber grams when calculating points. In newer programs, you can only use a maximum of 4 g fiber. Where the complaints come in (and I still complain). WW replaced 1-2-3 with a newer points program (winning points). In this program they lowered the daily ranges by 2 points, so the equivalent of your old 1-2-3 range would change to 18-23. Banking was allowed. Based on this you were allowed 161 max weekly points, plus activity points which also could be banked. So switching to flex points from the winning points program, you have the allowance to consume 14 additional points per week. Many of us felt that adding 14 points per week hindered our weightloss, or made it very difficult to refigure the maintenance routine - so just stuck with the winning points program. One thing to definitely keep in mind is that you don't HAVE to use those flexpoints (and if we don't then it makes me think we still are going right back to the old winning points program - only the banking is done for us. g). Joyce On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 21:14:29 +0100, "Mette" wrote: Uhm..when I started WW four years ago it was called 1-2-3 points. My range was 18-25 points daily. Now I suddenly heard the term "flexpoints" - how does that work? Is it more effective? |
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