"New" Cholesterol Tests?

On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 08:03:07 -0400, "The Green Market"
wrote:

My brother is a doctor, #1, and #2, what is your problem? I was only trying
to help. I didn't prescribe anything nor get on a soapbox. I own a retail
low carb store and this group helps my business with their discussions. I
rarely respond, mostly observe and learn. I sell NOTHING at this forum. So
stop with your nonsense and get a book on how to be a humble human being.

Nat
The Green Market

mudungchung troll droppings snipped

you are responding to a known usenet kook and troll. he wants the
conflicts between groups and between christian and non christians. it
feeds his mental sickness and lack of self esteem.

In article ,
Steve Harris wrote:
"Bob (this one)" wrote in message ...

May somebody do something for your hag-ridden belief-addled brain. You
must need some major drugs or delusional thinking and denial to be
able to think well enough to get through medical school, and still
believe all this self-contradicatory crap you do. Amazing.

It all started, according to him, with the standard "near-death"
oxygen deprivation that engenders hallucinations.

That would explain a lot. He made it through medical school, a
residency, and a Ph.D. program, and then something fried his brain.

IIRC, lesions of the (left?) parietal lobe can cause hyperreligiosity,
especially the belief that God is acting or speaking through you. I
don't know whether Chung's rapid progression in this syndrome could be
due to an old lesion, or whether it could be evidence that some kind of
damage is continuing. Maybe somebody with more knowledge of neurology
than I have can comment.

At any rate, arguing with him is not going to change things. It only
reinforces his conviction that he is being persecuted for his special
status as infallible spokesman for and agent of God. It also raises his
interlocutors' blood pressure.

I'd be afraid to go to a doctor who manifests Chung's symptoms, in
particular that whatever happens to a patient is God's will, and that
since God is working through him, whatever he thinks or does is ipso
facto incontestibly right. E.g. his 2-pound diet is not just a novel
approach that might be of help to some obese people, it's God's work,
the One and Only True Way for absolutely everyone under all circumstances.

Has his condition progressed to the point where he's a danger to his
patients?

(Btw, before everybody jumps on me, I'm *not* saying that religious
belief means a person has brain damage!)

In article ,
Steve Harris wrote:
"Bob (this one)" wrote in message ...

May somebody do something for your hag-ridden belief-addled brain. You
must need some major drugs or delusional thinking and denial to be
able to think well enough to get through medical school, and still
believe all this self-contradicatory crap you do. Amazing.

It all started, according to him, with the standard "near-death"
oxygen deprivation that engenders hallucinations.

That would explain a lot. He made it through medical school, a
residency, and a Ph.D. program, and then something fried his brain.

IIRC, lesions of the (left?) parietal lobe can cause hyperreligiosity,
especially the belief that God is acting or speaking through you. I
don't know whether Chung's rapid progression in this syndrome could be
due to an old lesion, or whether it could be evidence that some kind of
damage is continuing. Maybe somebody with more knowledge of neurology
than I have can comment.

At any rate, arguing with him is not going to change things. It only
reinforces his conviction that he is being persecuted for his special
status as infallible spokesman for and agent of God. It also raises his
interlocutors' blood pressure.

I'd be afraid to go to a doctor who manifests Chung's symptoms, in
particular that whatever happens to a patient is God's will, and that
since God is working through him, whatever he thinks or does is ipso
facto incontestibly right. E.g. his 2-pound diet is not just a novel
approach that might be of help to some obese people, it's God's work,
the One and Only True Way for absolutely everyone under all circumstances.

Has his condition progressed to the point where he's a danger to his
patients?

(Btw, before everybody jumps on me, I'm *not* saying that religious
belief means a person has brain damage!)

In article ,
Steve Harris wrote:
"Bob (this one)" wrote in message ...

May somebody do something for your hag-ridden belief-addled brain. You
must need some major drugs or delusional thinking and denial to be
able to think well enough to get through medical school, and still
believe all this self-contradicatory crap you do. Amazing.

It all started, according to him, with the standard "near-death"
oxygen deprivation that engenders hallucinations.

That would explain a lot. He made it through medical school, a
residency, and a Ph.D. program, and then something fried his brain.

IIRC, lesions of the (left?) parietal lobe can cause hyperreligiosity,
especially the belief that God is acting or speaking through you. I
don't know whether Chung's rapid progression in this syndrome could be
due to an old lesion, or whether it could be evidence that some kind of
damage is continuing. Maybe somebody with more knowledge of neurology
than I have can comment.

At any rate, arguing with him is not going to change things. It only
reinforces his conviction that he is being persecuted for his special
status as infallible spokesman for and agent of God. It also raises his
interlocutors' blood pressure.

I'd be afraid to go to a doctor who manifests Chung's symptoms, in
particular that whatever happens to a patient is God's will, and that
since God is working through him, whatever he thinks or does is ipso
facto incontestibly right. E.g. his 2-pound diet is not just a novel
approach that might be of help to some obese people, it's God's work,
the One and Only True Way for absolutely everyone under all circumstances.

Has his condition progressed to the point where he's a danger to his
patients?

(Btw, before everybody jumps on me, I'm *not* saying that religious
belief means a person has brain damage!)

On 1 Sep 2004 19:56:02 -0700, Steve Harris
wrote:

In the tale, somebody actually thinks to ask Jesus if some congenital
problem is due to the sin of the person who got it, or the sin of his
parents, and Jesus says "neither." Which doesn't exactly fit with
standard Christian teaching about the Fall of Adam, but never mind.

Standard Christian teaching? No such thing exists, Steve.

Jesus says the purpose of the problem is to fullfil righteousness.
Leaving us to wonder why he does anything about it.

I enjoy the wonder and the mystery, Steve. I am not surprised it upsets
you. You see mystery as unacceptable in a world you feel the need to be
factual to be useful, to be under your control and understanding; I see the
mystery as a great precursor of things eternal, nothing to fear, a
requirement of a God that I will never understand while on Earth.

Your need to know is killing you spiritually.

This healing of diseases things cuts either way. If wounds are good
for people, why heal them? If they aren't, why didn't a loving and
all powerful got heal them long ago?

See above.

Sorry, Chung, the Jesus of the scriptures is quite the bull****
artist. In that, at least, he reminds me very much of you.

You spend an inordinate amount of your temporal time and effort on
"bull****" artists, Steve; I'll add that to the wonders and mysteries
column, Steve, why you would waste your time clock doing so.