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Back to Coffee WAS: Funny!
The Queen of Cans and Jars wrote:
Once again: I never suggested giving up coffee. I suggested not making coffee a 100-200 calorie per day thing. Yeah, but you came out swinging to a question of "Any suggestions?" (which in context was meant to have an implied "about where to look for serving size info from DD") with "Yeah: ditch the milk and sugar.". I never thought you wanted me to ditch the coffee but it sounded like you thought the options were black coffee or no weight loss. Only later do you bring up your love of half and half... I admit that change in your suggestion didn't quite register with me, and a week later, you're actually sounding reasonable and concilatory... ("I don't know what it needs - it's your coffee! But would it hurt to experiment?") I'm sure you have no patience for being like that more often, but this group might have more light and less heat. Except of course, keep it up against the F'in spammers. having for 50 or 60 is going to be a necessity. And if a person can't make the small changes, they're not going to have much luck with the big ones. I disagree. I've made the big changes (calorie counting and control and an exercise routine) and I find them much easier since I'm keeping in some little luxuries. At any rate, it's not "can't" for the small change, it's "has elected not to". -- QUOTEBLOG: http://kisrael.com SKEPTIC MORTALITY: http://kisrael.com/mortal "I want to do to you what the spring does to cherry trees." "I want to do to *you* what you do to chinese food." --tufts.general |
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Back to Coffee WAS: Funny!
Kirk Is wrote:
At any rate, it's not "can't" for the small change, it's "has elected not to". Which is why you aren't a FFID anymore. Because you understand the distinction. Our work here is done. ;-) Dally |
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Back to Coffee WAS: Funny!
Kirk Is wrote: But I have reason to think that there's another workable approach that says "if things are going to be sustainable, if they're going to be a permanent part of my WOL/WOE, they should be as inobtrusive as possible, or else I'm going to be unhappy and drop it". Rather than a slippery slope, this approach is more concerned about a sudden cliffdrop. For what it's worth, this is the approach I've taken to my weight loss. I love food that I know isn't so good for me. If I had to look at a lifetime of never eating fried chicken, barbecued ribs, or french fries again I know that I would get disheartened and just say "to hell with this". I eat an occasional candy bar. I drink apple martinis. I eat potato chips and cheetos. But... I also eat much smaller portions of food than I used to on a daily basis. I eat alot more food that is good for me than I used to, and now rarely have the junk. Sure, I really enjoy it when I do, but it's not a daily way of life eating for me anymore. I know that I can eat the way I am eating now for the rest of my life and not feel overly deprived. I might not be losing weight as fast as someone who is maintaining a more rigid way of eating, but that's okay. I would much rather keep it off forever than lose it quicker and then regain. So yeah, I might have some bad food habits that I have no intentions of quitting. Does this make me a FFID? Perhaps, I suppose. But I am less of a Fat **** than I used to be, and still losing. I can live with that. Forever. -- Annie As of 06-30-06: 258/189.5/140 Standing at 5 foot 4. 68.5 pounds lost. 49.5 left to go. Started February/07/05 Come visit my weight-loss web site, Annie Takes Off. http://webpages.charter.net/lenny13/DietFrontPage.html |
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Kirk Is wrote: The Historian wrote: I still think her coffee thread with Kirk was pretty silly, however. ...he reads, glancing over at the fragmented icy remnants of his large iced coffee w/ skim milk, rolls his eyes and grins. --Kirk, 227/212.5/180 Oh goodness, what a thread I spawned! I'm reminded of the Monty Python sketch about the dirty fork.... Neil 385/309/220 |
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"The Historian" wrote in
oups.com: Kirk Is wrote: The Historian wrote: I still think her coffee thread with Kirk was pretty silly, however. ...he reads, glancing over at the fragmented icy remnants of his large iced coffee w/ skim milk, rolls his eyes and grins. --Kirk, 227/212.5/180 Oh goodness, what a thread I spawned! I'm reminded of the Monty Python sketch about the dirty fork.... Neil 385/309/220 Neil, Just don't tell the passengers of the Mayflower 1, en route to the sun, that "we're out of coffee." Andy Airport II (the remake) |
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Andy q wrote in :
Airport II (the remake) Airplane II AIRPLAN! Dammit. |
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Andy q wrote in :
Andy q wrote in : Airport II (the remake) Airplane II AIRPLAN! Dammit. Geez... AIRPLANE II. Shoot the other foot, PLEASE?!! Andy |
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What makes you a FFID?
Annie Benson Lennaman wrote:
So yeah, I might have some bad food habits that I have no intentions of quitting. Does this make me a FFID? Perhaps, I suppose. But I am less of a Fat **** than I used to be, and still losing. I can live with that. Forever. I don't think making choices that aren't optimal makes you a FFID. The term is poignant in that the person is a ****ed by their own denial of the reality of how to get unfat. It's a sentence of being fat forever, a sentence of being a victim, ****ed over, because you can't get a handle on the reality of the situation. If you want to lose fat then you're going to have to eat less and exercise more. Period. Any sentence that beings with, "that won't work for me because..." means you're a FFID. Any sentence that starts with, "It's not my fault because..." means you're a FFID. Strangely, I don't mind the people who start out with, "It's too hard..." To them I say, "fine, make your peace with being fat. It has its benefits. Embrace them and stop whining about wanting to be slender because you DON'T want to be slender. You want to be fat. So be fat." Then I flee them as fast as possible (and send them over to soc.support.fat-acceptance. Or perhas to FatHappens.) Dally |
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What makes you a FFID?
Dally wrote: Annie Benson Lennaman wrote: So yeah, I might have some bad food habits that I have no intentions of quitting. Does this make me a FFID? Perhaps, I suppose. But I am less of a Fat **** than I used to be, and still losing. I can live with that. Forever. I don't think making choices that aren't optimal makes you a FFID. The term is poignant in that the person is a ****ed by their own denial of the reality of how to get unfat. It's a sentence of being fat forever, a sentence of being a victim, ****ed over, because you can't get a handle on the reality of the situation. Agreed. It's wanting to lose weight only as long as you don't have to give up any of the lifestyle that made you fat. If you want to lose fat then you're going to have to eat less and exercise more. Period. Any sentence that beings with, "that won't work for me because..." means you're a FFID. Not as you've expressed it. There are real reasons why a person may not be able to do "that", depending on the person and what "that" is. The obvious example would be suggesting long walks to a poster in a wheelchair. Or, mpre personally, my bad knees kept me away from many lower body exercises when I started. Any sentence that starts with, "It's not my fault because..." means you're a FFID. Agreed. I spent decades there. Strangely, I don't mind the people who start out with, "It's too hard..." To them I say, "fine, make your peace with being fat. It has its benefits. Embrace them and stop whining about wanting to be slender because you DON'T want to be slender. You want to be fat. So be fat." Then I flee them as fast as possible (and send them over to soc.support.fat-acceptance. Or perhas to FatHappens.) Send them to FatHappens, so they can be coddled by patronizing thin folks who think fat people are victims of society. Neil 385/309/220 |
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"The Historian" wrote in
...he reads, glancing over at the fragmented icy remnants of his large iced coffee w/ skim milk, rolls his eyes and grins. --Kirk, 227/212.5/180 Oh goodness, what a thread I spawned! I'm reminded of the Monty Python sketch about the dirty fork.... Honestly I was planning on leaving it there, but ended up not avoiding the revamp of the argument, sorry. -- QUOTEBLOG: http://kisrael.com SKEPTIC MORTALITY: http://kisrael.com/mortal "the day that you die will be like any other day, only shorter." --Beckett |
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