Ok, fine, whatever, I give up

You have no idea what shape and tone means. The Firm took your money, so now
you want to spread the joy.

The fitness models on the videos suckered you, and now you think you're an
expert.

Your advice sucks.

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"Lori Wilson" wrote in message
...
Pardon me for trying to give someone a little bit of advice. I workout
every day using the Firm system. The ladies on these videos would blow
you
fat heads out of the water. Yes muscle is denser then fat. Sculpt means
to
shape and tone you idiot. You can lift as much weight as you want and tone
the muscle mass underneath the fat, but if you don't do the proper amount
of
cardio exercise and watch food intake with the toning, you will never see
the muscle definition under the fat. I was just trying to help Luna with
her problem. I will never offer my help to anyone else on this board.
Some
support system you are.

I suggest if you don't know what you are speaking of, to just shut up!

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"Dick Yuknavech" I-give-up.@dontspamcom wrote in message
...
On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 03:46:18 GMT, Luna wrote in
alt.support.diet.low-carb:

In article ,
"JC Der Koenig" wrote:

...t. And how do you "sculpt" a muscle anyway?



With a knife? ....

I don't think so. Wouldn't that be "carving"? "Sculpting" is done with a
hammer and chisel, and would probably require rock-hard muscle. Whaddya
say, JC?

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6/2/2003 181/162/164?

Luna wrote:

I could be wrong here, but I think I remember reading somewhere that
different types of exercise will give you differently shaped muscles. Like
the differences between swimmers' legs and soccer players' legs, for
example.

The shape of your muscles are genetic determined -- actually its the
length of your tendons, their insertion points, determine how "peaked"
or round looking the shape of your muscles are. However you can
develop some muscles more than others by working some muscles more
than others -- you often see young misguided guys who look odd
because they only bench press and/or do bicep curls.

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Originally Posted by Luna

Well, I _thought_ I'd broken my stall, but I went for my last weigh-in at
Curves today, and I was down a half pound. Which is back to what I was in
January. I go from 156 to 156.5 and back to 156, with likewise minute
fluctuations in measurements that are probably due to different people
measuring me in slightly different ways.

I've been working out 5 - 6 days a week, weight lifting 3x a week, cardio
as a warm up on weight days, and more cardio on non-weight days. I'm
pushing myself as hard as I can on the working out. I've been averaging
around 1200 calories a day, about 30g of carbs a day.

I'm NOT giving up on low-carb. I like eating this way, and at least I'm
not gaining. I'm not giving up on exercise either, because I like it too.
But I guess I need to give up on losing any more weight, because apparently
this is where my body wants to be, and to tell you the truth I'd rather be
at this weight forever than eat any less, because I'm already restricting
myself enough so that it's a pain in the butt and I'm hungry most of the
time. I've butched up about as much as I can. No, that's not true, I
could eat less. I could force myself to eat one small salad a day and
nothing else. But what's the point? Been there, done that, hated every
minute of it way more than I hate being fat. I'm not saying I love to pig
out more than I hate being fat, it's not about wanting to eat huge portions
of stuff, it's about how I don't think I could stick with being hungry when
I go to bed, hungry when I wake up, hungry all day long, stomach growling
loud enough that other people can hear it, ****ed off because I've just
eaten a hard boiled egg for lunch and I'm still hungry, for the rest of my
life. I have always been skeptical about people who say they don't eat a
lot and they do exercise but they can't lose weight, and now look at me,
I've become what I ridiculed. Whatever. **** it.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

Michelle,
This is what works for me. I eat lots of food. But the foods I eat have helped me to lose 58 lbs in 11 weeks. Foods high in carbs (Potatoes, rice, beans, cereal, oatmeal, grains) and lots of veggies and fruits. If you restrict your diet (particularly your sodium intake) to these kinds of foods, the weight will come off. Don't skip meals or reduce the amount of food your body needs to lose weight. Remember, if you don't eat enough food, your body will not burn up those "fat" cells. Your body is not stupid. If you don't give it the food that it needs to run its machine, it holds onto the "fat" cells as a protective mechanism. Just eat the right kinds of food and limit your sodium intake to 500mgs of sodium a day. Good luck!
Sterling

In article ,
loverduck wrote:

Luna Wrote:
Well, I _thought_ I'd broken my stall, but I went for my last weigh-in
at
Curves today, and I was down a half pound. Which is back to what I was
in
January. I go from 156 to 156.5 and back to 156, with likewise minute
fluctuations in measurements that are probably due to different people
measuring me in slightly different ways.

I've been working out 5 - 6 days a week, weight lifting 3x a week,
cardio
as a warm up on weight days, and more cardio on non-weight days. I'm
pushing myself as hard as I can on the working out. I've been
averaging
around 1200 calories a day, about 30g of carbs a day.

I'm NOT giving up on low-carb. I like eating this way, and at least
I'm
not gaining. I'm not giving up on exercise either, because I like it
too.
But I guess I need to give up on losing any more weight, because
apparently
this is where my body wants to be, and to tell you the truth I'd rather
be
at this weight forever than eat any less, because I'm already
restricting
myself enough so that it's a pain in the butt and I'm hungry most of
the
time. I've butched up about as much as I can. No, that's not true, I
could eat less. I could force myself to eat one small salad a day and
nothing else. But what's the point? Been there, done that, hated
every
minute of it way more than I hate being fat. I'm not saying I love to
pig
out more than I hate being fat, it's not about wanting to eat huge
portions
of stuff, it's about how I don't think I could stick with being hungry
when
I go to bed, hungry when I wake up, hungry all day long, stomach
growling
loud enough that other people can hear it, ****ed off because I've
just
eaten a hard boiled egg for lunch and I'm still hungry, for the rest of
my
life. I have always been skeptical about people who say they don't eat
a
lot and they do exercise but they can't lose weight, and now look at
me,
I've become what I ridiculed. Whatever. **** it.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3
flaws.
Michelle,
This is what works for me. I eat lots of food. But the foods I eat
have helped me to lose 58 lbs in 11 weeks. Foods high in carbs
(Potatoes, rice, beans, cereal, oatmeal, grains) and lots of veggies
and fruits. If you restrict your diet (particularly your sodium
intake) to these kinds of foods, the weight will come off. Don't skip
meals or reduce the amount of food your body needs to lose weight.
Remember, if you don't eat enough food, your body will not burn up
those "fat" cells. Your body is not stupid. If you don't give it the
food that it needs to run its machine, it holds onto the "fat" cells as
a protective mechanism. Just eat the right kinds of food and limit your
sodium intake to 500mgs of sodium a day. Good luck!
Sterling

What the hell? You're responding to a post I made, what, two years ago?
And telling me to eat carbs? On a low-carb diet support group?

Luna wrote:
:: In article ,
:: loverduck wrote:
::
::: Luna Wrote:
:::: Well, I _thought_ I'd broken my stall, but I went for my last
:::: weigh-in at
:::: Curves today, and I was down a half pound. Which is back to what
:::: I was in
:::: January. I go from 156 to 156.5 and back to 156, with likewise
:::: minute fluctuations in measurements that are probably due to
:::: different people measuring me in slightly different ways.
::::
:::: I've been working out 5 - 6 days a week, weight lifting 3x a week,
:::: cardio
:::: as a warm up on weight days, and more cardio on non-weight days.
:::: I'm pushing myself as hard as I can on the working out. I've been
:::: averaging
:::: around 1200 calories a day, about 30g of carbs a day.
::::
:::: I'm NOT giving up on low-carb. I like eating this way, and at
:::: least I'm
:::: not gaining. I'm not giving up on exercise either, because I like
:::: it too.
:::: But I guess I need to give up on losing any more weight, because
:::: apparently
:::: this is where my body wants to be, and to tell you the truth I'd
:::: rather be
:::: at this weight forever than eat any less, because I'm already
:::: restricting
:::: myself enough so that it's a pain in the butt and I'm hungry most
:::: of the
:::: time. I've butched up about as much as I can. No, that's not
:::: true, I could eat less. I could force myself to eat one small
:::: salad a day and nothing else. But what's the point? Been there,
:::: done that, hated every
:::: minute of it way more than I hate being fat. I'm not saying I love
:::: to pig
:::: out more than I hate being fat, it's not about wanting to eat huge
:::: portions
:::: of stuff, it's about how I don't think I could stick with being
:::: hungry when
:::: I go to bed, hungry when I wake up, hungry all day long, stomach
:::: growling
:::: loud enough that other people can hear it, ****ed off because I've
:::: just
:::: eaten a hard boiled egg for lunch and I'm still hungry, for the
:::: rest of my
:::: life. I have always been skeptical about people who say they
:::: don't eat a
:::: lot and they do exercise but they can't lose weight, and now look
:::: at me,
:::: I've become what I ridiculed. Whatever. **** it.
::::
:::: --
:::: Michelle Levin
:::: http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick
::::
:::: I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3
:::: flaws.
::: Michelle,
::: This is what works for me. I eat lots of food. But the foods I eat
::: have helped me to lose 58 lbs in 11 weeks. Foods high in carbs
::: (Potatoes, rice, beans, cereal, oatmeal, grains) and lots of veggies
::: and fruits. If you restrict your diet (particularly your sodium
::: intake) to these kinds of foods, the weight will come off. Don't
::: skip meals or reduce the amount of food your body needs to lose
::: weight. Remember, if you don't eat enough food, your body will not
::: burn up those "fat" cells. Your body is not stupid. If you don't
::: give it the food that it needs to run its machine, it holds onto
::: the "fat" cells as a protective mechanism. Just eat the right kinds
::: of food and limit your sodium intake to 500mgs of sodium a day.
::: Good luck!
::: Sterling
::
:: What the hell? You're responding to a post I made, what, two years
:: ago? And telling me to eat carbs? On a low-carb diet support group?

Some weird ****, no doubt! Quite stupid, too.

Luna wrote:
|| In article ,
|| loverduck wrote:
||
||| Luna Wrote:
|||| Well, I _thought_ I'd broken my stall, but I went for my
|||| last weigh-in at
|||| Curves today, and I was down a half pound. Which is back
|||| to what I was in
|||| January. I go from 156 to 156.5 and back to 156, with
|||| likewise minute fluctuations in measurements that are
|||| probably due to different people measuring me in slightly
|||| different ways.
||||
|||| I've been working out 5 - 6 days a week, weight lifting 3x
|||| a week, cardio
|||| as a warm up on weight days, and more cardio on non-weight
|||| days. I'm pushing myself as hard as I can on the working
|||| out. I've been averaging
|||| around 1200 calories a day, about 30g of carbs a day.
||||
|||| I'm NOT giving up on low-carb. I like eating this way, and
|||| at least I'm
|||| not gaining. I'm not giving up on exercise either, because
|||| I like it too.
|||| But I guess I need to give up on losing any more weight,
|||| because apparently
|||| this is where my body wants to be, and to tell you the
|||| truth I'd rather be
|||| at this weight forever than eat any less, because I'm
|||| already restricting
|||| myself enough so that it's a pain in the butt and I'm
|||| hungry most of the
|||| time. I've butched up about as much as I can. No, that's
|||| not true, I could eat less. I could force myself to eat
|||| one small salad a day and nothing else. But what's the
|||| point? Been there, done that, hated every
|||| minute of it way more than I hate being fat. I'm not saying
|||| I love to pig
|||| out more than I hate being fat, it's not about wanting to
|||| eat huge portions
|||| of stuff, it's about how I don't think I could stick with
|||| being hungry when
|||| I go to bed, hungry when I wake up, hungry all day long,
|||| stomach growling
|||| loud enough that other people can hear it, ****ed off
|||| because I've just
|||| eaten a hard boiled egg for lunch and I'm still hungry, for
|||| the rest of my
|||| life. I have always been skeptical about people who say
|||| they don't eat a
|||| lot and they do exercise but they can't lose weight, and
|||| now look at me,
|||| I've become what I ridiculed. Whatever. **** it.
||||
|||| --
|||| Michelle Levin
|||| http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick
||||
|||| I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only
|||| have 3 flaws.
||| Michelle,
||| This is what works for me. I eat lots of food. But the
||| foods I eat
||| have helped me to lose 58 lbs in 11 weeks. Foods high in
||| carbs (Potatoes, rice, beans, cereal, oatmeal, grains) and
||| lots of veggies
||| and fruits. If you restrict your diet (particularly your
||| sodium
||| intake) to these kinds of foods, the weight will come off.
||| Don't skip meals or reduce the amount of food your body
||| needs to lose weight. Remember, if you don't eat enough
||| food, your body will not burn up
||| those "fat" cells. Your body is not stupid. If you don't
||| give it the food that it needs to run its machine, it holds
||| onto the "fat" cells as a protective mechanism. Just eat the
||| right kinds of food and limit your sodium intake to 500mgs
||| of sodium a day. Good luck!
||| Sterling
||
|| What the hell? You're responding to a post I made, what, two
|| years ago? And telling me to eat carbs? On a low-carb diet
|| support group?

Time warp?

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"Everyone has a photographic memory, some just don't have film."
-- Steven Wright

What the hell? You're responding to a post I made, what, two years ago?

)

"Luna" wrote in message
...

What the hell? You're responding to a post I made, what, two years ago?
And telling me to eat carbs? On a low-carb diet support group?


Check its headers, it's posting from another one of those web archives
WeightLossBanter.com

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No Husband Has Ever Been Shot While Doing The Dishes

You are doing it all wrong. What you need to eat is HIGH HIGH protein foods like protein shakes and lean bonless chicken. Eat ver low carb and fat foods. I dont know how much you way but lets say you want to lose 20 pounds, what you should do is split your diet for a goal of 6 weeks. for the first six weeks eat all the protein you can and do cardio like running walking biking etc. then after the first three weeks are up start doing mild cardio and toning only weight lifting. You will see what I just told you will wip your ass into shape. Comment me back when it works. STICK TO IT. you can do

P.s. listen to music when u do this. its gunna distract you

dontfeelgrea wrote:
: You are doing it all wrong. What you need to eat is HIGH HIGH protein
: foods like protein shakes and lean bonless chicken. Eat ver low carb
: and fat foods. I dont know how much you way but lets say you want to
: lose 20 pounds, what you should do is split your diet for a goal of 6
: weeks. for the first six weeks eat all the protein you can and do
: cardio like running walking biking etc. then after the first three
: weeks are up start doing mild cardio and toning only weight lifting.
: You will see what I just told you will wip your ass into shape.
: Comment me back when it works. STICK TO IT. you can do
:
: P.s. listen to music when u do this. its gunna distract you


Damn! Some real shinning stars over yonder! I just wish they'd stay over
yonder!