Cigarette Smoking, Atkins/Low Carb: learn from history.What cost Free Press.

STEVE BAYT
(Parma/Brook Park, Ohio)


So, this article's research and analysis took much longer than
the objective of 48 hours. For now that millions of Americans have
been brainwashed by the Atkins Low Carb Death Sentence, it's only a
matter of a year or so until the annual 992,000 average American
deaths makes AIDS look like a warm-up act to ARDS-Atkins Related Death
Syndrome.

Heart disease is virtually entirely by eating too much fat
and cholesterol. Other causes comprise a very small percent. So people
can do the math as to how many deaths have been attributed to Atkins
and related diets. As they can do the math for how the death toll will
increase due to Atkins' increased advertising.

The science is unquestioned. Atkins in 35 years has been
condemned and virtually every health and nutrition entity has warned
the media about accepting advertising even implying a Low Carb or
Atkins life style is not a death sentence.

In April 2004 the federal bureau in charge of Beer and Wine
licenses made it illegal for beer, wines or any alcoholic beverage to
even imply that being low carb is healthy. The FDA is presently trying
to make mandatory on all Low Carb products, some sort of disclaimer
about Atkins' fatal consequences and the necessity of consuming at
least 100 mgs of complex carbohydrates a day.

It's rathere symbolic that marketers have recently made up a
term "Carbphoia" as was done with "AIDSphobia". For AIDS And Atkins
pretty much do the same thing both biologically. And Atkins is
presenting the same false immpression that was done with homophobia.

Atkins and Low Carb has more fatal consequences than
cigarette smoking, according to thousands of health entities not
financially connected to Atkins. The marketing for Atkins is the same
type as with smoking. For nearly a half-century cigarette smoking
portrayed as being cool-Joe Camel and The Marlboro Man started in the
early 1950's.

In 1965, a year after the surgeon general's first report on
smoking, the first law was passed to have all cigarette ads and
packages have health warnings. Through the years, the warnings and not
allowed advertising methods have increased. All radio and non-cable
TV stations can't even air commercials for cigarettes according to FCC
regulations.

Yet, millions of people continue to smoke and die.

Press Releases and requests to media outlets from
thousands of health entities to not run Atkins or Low Carb Ads have
produced, well,,, a media that will run anything. Just like TV, radio,
magazines and radio stations glorified smoking, they are now
glorifying the low carb lifestyle (or more appropriately called low
carb death style).

The only thing that can be done in the short term is to
hope that once Atkins sufferers get back to a healthy lifestyle before
there are so many people having heart attacks that America doesn't
have enough doctors and hospitals to deal with them. Of course, 35% of
people who suffer heart attacks, due almost entirely by too much fat
and too few carbs to sustain heart functions, die before even arriving
at the hospital.

Someone who starts on the Atkins Death Sentence today has
about 2-4 years before being near a heart attack. Hopefully, those 65%
who make it to coronary care units will be told by doctors to stop
with Atkins.

Unfortunately, lawsuits are unlikely to prevail against
Atkins due to a legal concept called "Assumption of Risk" which has
for decades protected cigarette companies from having to pay anything.
When the FDA eventually decides on a warning for Atkins similar to the
1994 DSHEA with nutritional supplements, I hope it reads something
like."
EVERY HEALTH AUTHORITY CONDOMNS ATKINS. CONTINUED LOW CARB HIGH FAT
AND PROTEIN DIET WILL RESULT IN MANY POTENTIAL FATAL CONSEQUENCES."

The first warning for cigarettes was fairly lame: "Smoking
may be hazardous to your health." Hopefully, with Atkins the FDA
won't play around with such lame disclaimers and get straight to the
sort of disclaimer mandated in 1978.

Similar to how America learned about terrorism by 911,
Americans (if this Atkins brainwashing continues) will have to ask
whether the first amendment worth millions of Americans suffering
heart attacks, kidney disease, stroke, brain damage and then death.
For the first amendment is what protects the media from running Atkins
adverting. 911 taught us to act proactively to potential threats.
Yet, library shelves are filled with potential health threats,
collecting cobwebs, as was Atkins a year ago.

The media has a choice; each newspaper, TV station
etc. can get millions of dollars in ad revenue or act responsibly.
Tragically, the media's value is to make money instead of helping save
lives.

If the present advertising trend continues, similar to
cigarette smoking, Atkins ads by late 2005 will be replaced with
Public Service Announcements about how "those tens of millions who
have become coronary ticking time bombs can defuse themselves and get
back to a healthy lifestyle."

Of course it wasn't until 1990 until the first PSA
for using condoms was run on a non-cable network (Fox) which at the
time was a very struggling network. By the time Fox ran the first
Condom PSA, 200,000 Americans had already died.

There was a newspaper chain (with tobacco financial
interests) THE MEMPHIS PUBLISING COMPANY that wouldn't run cigarette
ads with the surgeon general warning in the early 1970's. The
Tennessee and US Attorney General had to virtually take over the
newsroom of many Memphis Publishing Company publications to guarantee
ads ran with the warning. (Leech vs. Memphis Publishing Company)

Presently, there is a branch of the Federal Trade
Commission called the National Advertising Review Board that reviews
deceptive ads and if the advertiser is "found guilty" the advertiser
is forced to place corrective advertising.

Based on the pathetic irresponsibility of the media
promoting the Atkins Death Sentence, which could lead to millions of
ARDS. Perhaps the best thing to do would be to fine the media for
running the advertising along with the advertiser.

The fine to the medium (that is a singular noun form
of media referring to a single member of the media) would be twice the
amount that was billed to the advertiser.

It is clear that the media that have barely mentioned
Senate Bill 722 and HR. 3377, which would effectively ban supplements
while promoting Atkins Low Carb, does not deserve the First Amendment.
Through American history a FREE PRESS has had generally more tragedy
than benefit-Pentagon Papers etc.

Similar to cigarette smoking, the Atkins death
sentence takes at least 2 years to prevail. And unlike AIDS there is a
cure. Not one single person who started on the Atkins Low Carb death
style, say about 6 months ago when the advertising rush started has
suffered any permanent health risk and can go back to a low fat, low
cholesterol, high nutrient dense diet without burdening their loved
ones with hospitalization and funerals.

If anything comes of this Atkins epidemic is that
maybe the first amendment might finally be amended. For its hard to
tell which is worse. That Americans can be brainwashed by advertising.
Or that the media ignores lives for money.

Atkins isn't a fad, its potential epidemic. You can get
HIV or other STD;s with one time of unprotected sex. Fortunately, one
can't get ARDS with just one month or even a year of Atkins So, there
is hope…..



Love Means Never Having To Say, You're Sorry….


STEVE BAYT




It's unkown when my next Atkins bashing article will be done. Maybe
not until July 11th.

Steve Randy Shilts Bayt wrote:

STEVE BAYT
(Parma/Brook Park, Ohio)


So, this article's research and analysis took much longer than
the objective of 48 hours. For now that millions of Americans have
been brainwashed by the Atkins Low Carb Death Sentence, it's only a
matter of a year or so until the annual 992,000 average American
deaths makes AIDS look like a warm-up act to ARDS-Atkins Related Death
Syndrome.


Bunch'a Bull ...

The whole story is written with fat phobia dripping from each letter.

Read recent special article in the latest Scientific American special
issue on Longevity. The article on Atherosclerosis is especially
significant. "The long-held conception of how the disease develops turns
out to be wrong."

http://www.sciam.com/special/toc.cfm...sc=rt_nav_list
-------------------------------------------------------------------

Atherosclerosis: The New View by Peter Libby

It causes chest pain, heart attack and stroke, leading to more deaths
every year than cancer. The long-held conception of how the disease
develops turns out to be wrong

Must have been written by an RD. They are so full of stupid advice. Like just eat less calories per day. That advice has condemned millions to yo yo dieting and death from gaining back more weight than they took off.

"Steve Randy Shilts Bayt" wrote in message om...
STEVE BAYT
(Parma/Brook Park, Ohio)


So, this article's research and analysis took much longer than
the objective of 48 hours. For now that millions of Americans have
been brainwashed by the Atkins Low Carb Death Sentence, it's only a
matter of a year or so until the annual 992,000 average American
deaths makes AIDS look like a warm-up act to ARDS-Atkins Related Death
Syndrome.

Where is your study? hmmmmmmm

Heart disease is virtually entirely by eating too much fat
and cholesterol. Other causes comprise a very small percent. So people
can do the math as to how many deaths have been attributed to Atkins
and related diets. As they can do the math for how the death toll will
increase due to Atkins' increased advertising.

You make a simplistic statement to describe what in fact is a many faceted face of heart disease.

The science is unquestioned. Atkins in 35 years has been
condemned and virtually every health and nutrition entity has warned
the media about accepting advertising even implying a Low Carb or
Atkins life style is not a death sentence.

The science is not unquestioned except by you. This diatribe against Atkins seems to be a religion with you.

In April 2004 the federal bureau in charge of Beer and Wine
licenses made it illegal for beer, wines or any alcoholic beverage to
even imply that being low carb is healthy. The FDA is presently trying
to make mandatory on all Low Carb products, some sort of disclaimer
about Atkins' fatal consequences and the necessity of consuming at
least 100 mgs of complex carbohydrates a day.

How fatal is i?. I have been on Atkins for 5 years, no breaks. No fruit or sugar and certainly no starch. I am much stricter than the average Atkins dieter. It is because I need to be in order to maintain a healthy weight. Again that is no starch or sugar in 5 years. I must be dead. Dah. I am in fact healthier by a long shot than when I started with Atkins.

It's rathere symbolic that marketers have recently made up a
term "Carbphoia" as was done with "AIDSphobia". For AIDS And Atkins
pretty much do the same thing both biologically. And Atkins is
presenting the same false immpression that was done with homophobia.

Oh God, Homophobia and carbophobia. The same thing in your mind. You would make a great religious zealot. Maybe your are one. Zealotry has always been unhealthy. Lighten up a little.

Atkins and Low Carb has more fatal consequences than
cigarette smoking, according to thousands of health entities not
financially connected to Atkins. The marketing for Atkins is the same
type as with smoking. For nearly a half-century cigarette smoking
portrayed as being cool-Joe Camel and The Marlboro Man started in the
early 1950's.

Show me the study. These wild statements you make as if they were fact are truly pathetic. A clear sign of wild eyed zealotry.

In 1965, a year after the surgeon general's first report on
smoking, the first law was passed to have all cigarette ads and
packages have health warnings. Through the years, the warnings and not
allowed advertising methods have increased. All radio and non-cable
TV stations can't even air commercials for cigarettes according to FCC
regulations.

Yet, millions of people continue to smoke and die.

Dah, It is very very addicting.

Press Releases and requests to media outlets from
thousands of health entities to not run Atkins or Low Carb Ads have
produced, well,,, a media that will run anything. Just like TV, radio,
magazines and radio stations glorified smoking, they are now
glorifying the low carb lifestyle (or more appropriately called low
carb death style).

I wonder what you think of the high carb death style. It has produced a national epdidemic of type II diabetes. Type II maims and kills.

The only thing that can be done in the short term is to
hope that once Atkins sufferers get back to a healthy lifestyle before
there are so many people having heart attacks that America doesn't
have enough doctors and hospitals to deal with them. Of course, 35% of
people who suffer heart attacks, due almost entirely by too much fat
and too few carbs to sustain heart functions, die before even arriving
at the hospital.

Show me the study. Just more of the same unsubstantiated drivel. Do you have a brain. Have you ever heard of double blind studies. Do you know that any reputable scientist listens to studies not apocryphal drivel.

Someone who starts on the Atkins Death Sentence today has
about 2-4 years before being near a heart attack. Hopefully, those 65%
who make it to coronary care units will be told by doctors to stop
with Atkins.

Been on it over 5 years, according you you I am dead. My wife has been on it 6 years. She also must be dead. She is actually very much alive downstairs right now.

Unfortunately, lawsuits are unlikely to prevail against
Atkins due to a legal concept called "Assumption of Risk" which has
for decades protected cigarette companies from having to pay anything.
When the FDA eventually decides on a warning for Atkins similar to the
1994 DSHEA with nutritional supplements, I hope it reads something
like."
EVERY HEALTH AUTHORITY CONDOMNS ATKINS. CONTINUED LOW CARB HIGH FAT
AND PROTEIN DIET WILL RESULT IN MANY POTENTIAL FATAL CONSEQUENCES."

Who are your health authorities??? You? Again, SHOW ME THE STUDIES!!

The first warning for cigarettes was fairly lame: "Smoking
may be hazardous to your health." Hopefully, with Atkins the FDA
won't play around with such lame disclaimers and get straight to the
sort of disclaimer mandated in 1978.

There are clear long term studies to substantiate the risk of smoking. There are none that indicate a risk for Atkins.

Similar to how America learned about terrorism by 911,
Americans (if this Atkins brainwashing continues) will have to ask
whether the first amendment worth millions of Americans suffering
heart attacks, kidney disease, stroke, brain damage and then death.
For the first amendment is what protects the media from running Atkins
adverting. 911 taught us to act proactively to potential threats.
Yet, library shelves are filled with potential health threats,
collecting cobwebs, as was Atkins a year ago.

911 and Atkins, the hysteria is rising.

The media has a choice; each newspaper, TV station
etc. can get millions of dollars in ad revenue or act responsibly.
Tragically, the media's value is to make money instead of helping save
lives.

If the present advertising trend continues, similar to
cigarette smoking, Atkins ads by late 2005 will be replaced with
Public Service Announcements about how "those tens of millions who
have become coronary ticking time bombs can defuse themselves and get
back to a healthy lifestyle."

Sure

Of course it wasn't until 1990 until the first PSA
for using condoms was run on a non-cable network (Fox) which at the
time was a very struggling network. By the time Fox ran the first
Condom PSA, 200,000 Americans had already died.

Aids and Atkins again. More hysteria. God, get over yourself.

There was a newspaper chain (with tobacco financial
interests) THE MEMPHIS PUBLISING COMPANY that wouldn't run cigarette
ads with the surgeon general warning in the early 1970's. The
Tennessee and US Attorney General had to virtually take over the
newsroom of many Memphis Publishing Company publications to guarantee
ads ran with the warning. (Leech vs. Memphis Publishing Company)

Presently, there is a branch of the Federal Trade
Commission called the National Advertising Review Board that reviews
deceptive ads and if the advertiser is "found guilty" the advertiser
is forced to place corrective advertising.

Your obsessive comparison of aids, smoking, and homophobia, with Atkins is very indicative of your lack research, scientific understanding, or any common sense. I can only surmise you are a vegan with an agenda that has nothing to do with our health. Vegans seem to become religious zealots about their life style. Their holier than thou attitude about not eating meat is truly pathetic.

Based on the pathetic irresponsibility of the media
promoting the Atkins Death Sentence, which could lead to millions of
ARDS. Perhaps the best thing to do would be to fine the media for
running the advertising along with the advertiser.

The fine to the medium (that is a singular noun form
of media referring to a single member of the media) would be twice the
amount that was billed to the advertiser.

It is clear that the media that have barely mentioned
Senate Bill 722 and HR. 3377, which would effectively ban supplements
while promoting Atkins Low Carb, does not deserve the First Amendment.
Through American history a FREE PRESS has had generally more tragedy
than benefit-Pentagon Papers etc.

Similar to cigarette smoking, the Atkins death
sentence takes at least 2 years to prevail. And unlike AIDS there is a
cure. Not one single person who started on the Atkins Low Carb death
style, say about 6 months ago when the advertising rush started has
suffered any permanent health risk and can go back to a low fat, low
cholesterol, high nutrient dense diet without burdening their loved
ones with hospitalization and funerals.

Again, My wife and I must already be dead. Your logic is completely illogical. Maybe you also belong to PETA, another holier than thou assemblage of zealots looking for a cause.

If anything comes of this Atkins epidemic is that
maybe the first amendment might finally be amended. For its hard to
tell which is worse. That Americans can be brainwashed by advertising.
Or that the media ignores lives for money.

The sugar lobby in congress is far more powerful that Atkins. The Atkins foundation funds no lobbyists in congress, the sugar industry funds many.

Atkins isn't a fad, its potential epidemic. You can get
HIV or other STD;s with one time of unprotected sex. Fortunately, one
can't get ARDS with just one month or even a year of Atkins So, there
is hope...

There is hope you will adjust to a life without hysteria and zealotry.



Love Means Never Having To Say, You're Sorry..


STEVE BAYT




It's unkown when my next Atkins bashing article will be done. Maybe
not until July 11th.

I can't wait for your further drivel.

Steve Randy Shilts Bayt wrote:

For now that millions of Americans have
been brainwashed by the Atkins Low Carb Death Sentence,

I always wonder: What do people think the Atkins diet is, exactly?

I'm not on Atkins, but I actually have read the book, and get the gist of
the diet.

It's unfortunate that all kinds of low-carb junk food is in the foreground
of people's minds, due to an overabundance of advertising, and also that
people believe Atkins to be "that all meat diet" in which people kiss
fruits and vegetables goodbye forever (LOL).

Either that or it's that "bacon and eggs and steak" diet.
LOL

--
The post you just read, unless otherwise noted, is strictly my opinion
and experience. Please interpret accordingly.

On Mon, 05 Jul 2004 14:37:50 -0300, Crafting Mom
wrote:

Steve Randy Shilts Bayt wrote:

For now that millions of Americans have
been brainwashed by the Atkins Low Carb Death Sentence,

I always wonder: What do people think the Atkins diet is, exactly?


Sadly, I expect a lot of people believe the junk they've seen
regarding Atkins on TV. You know, the programs that show people eating
mounds of beef, bacon and eggs.

No one seems to show the truth of the Atkins diet, or the fact that
many use leaner cuts of meat, chicken, fish and then use olive, canola
and nut oils.

You almost never see anyone on the *TV* Atkins diet eating vegetables
or salad.



I'm not on Atkins, but I actually have read the book, and get the gist of
the diet.

It's unfortunate that all kinds of low-carb junk food is in the foreground
of people's minds, due to an overabundance of advertising, and also that
people believe Atkins to be "that all meat diet" in which people kiss
fruits and vegetables goodbye forever (LOL).

Either that or it's that "bacon and eggs and steak" diet.


That's what it's been publicized as though, a LOT!

Kind of a "eat all the saturated fats you can hold" diet.

It's no wonder some folks (having NOT read the book), think it could
be dangerous to one's health.

Sad that people won't bother to enlighten themselves and actually read
what it is about. I'm not on Atkins either, but I have read the book.


Cynthia

(Steve Randy Shilts Bayt) wrote in message . com...
STEVE BAYT
(Parma/Brook Park, Ohio)

I can't figure out if this guy is just a troll pretending to
be really stupid, or if he really is this stupid.




So, this article's research and analysis took much longer than
the objective of 48 hours. For now that millions of Americans have
been brainwashed by the Atkins Low Carb Death Sentence, it's only a
matter of a year or so until the annual 992,000 average American
deaths makes AIDS look like a warm-up act to ARDS-Atkins Related Death
Syndrome.

Heart disease is virtually entirely by eating too much fat
and cholesterol. Other causes comprise a very small percent. So people
can do the math as to how many deaths have been attributed to Atkins
and related diets. As they can do the math for how the death toll will
increase due to Atkins' increased advertising.

The science is unquestioned. Atkins in 35 years has been
condemned and virtually every health and nutrition entity has warned
the media about accepting advertising even implying a Low Carb or
Atkins life style is not a death sentence.

In April 2004 the federal bureau in charge of Beer and Wine
licenses made it illegal for beer, wines or any alcoholic beverage to
even imply that being low carb is healthy. The FDA is presently trying
to make mandatory on all Low Carb products, some sort of disclaimer
about Atkins' fatal consequences and the necessity of consuming at
least 100 mgs of complex carbohydrates a day.

It's rathere symbolic that marketers have recently made up a
term "Carbphoia" as was done with "AIDSphobia". For AIDS And Atkins
pretty much do the same thing both biologically. And Atkins is
presenting the same false immpression that was done with homophobia.

Atkins and Low Carb has more fatal consequences than
cigarette smoking, according to thousands of health entities not
financially connected to Atkins. The marketing for Atkins is the same
type as with smoking. For nearly a half-century cigarette smoking
portrayed as being cool-Joe Camel and The Marlboro Man started in the
early 1950's.

In 1965, a year after the surgeon general's first report on
smoking, the first law was passed to have all cigarette ads and
packages have health warnings. Through the years, the warnings and not
allowed advertising methods have increased. All radio and non-cable
TV stations can't even air commercials for cigarettes according to FCC
regulations.

Yet, millions of people continue to smoke and die.

Press Releases and requests to media outlets from
thousands of health entities to not run Atkins or Low Carb Ads have
produced, well,,, a media that will run anything. Just like TV, radio,
magazines and radio stations glorified smoking, they are now
glorifying the low carb lifestyle (or more appropriately called low
carb death style).

The only thing that can be done in the short term is to
hope that once Atkins sufferers get back to a healthy lifestyle before
there are so many people having heart attacks that America doesn't
have enough doctors and hospitals to deal with them. Of course, 35% of
people who suffer heart attacks, due almost entirely by too much fat
and too few carbs to sustain heart functions, die before even arriving
at the hospital.

Someone who starts on the Atkins Death Sentence today has
about 2-4 years before being near a heart attack. Hopefully, those 65%
who make it to coronary care units will be told by doctors to stop
with Atkins.

Unfortunately, lawsuits are unlikely to prevail against
Atkins due to a legal concept called "Assumption of Risk" which has
for decades protected cigarette companies from having to pay anything.
When the FDA eventually decides on a warning for Atkins similar to the
1994 DSHEA with nutritional supplements, I hope it reads something
like."
EVERY HEALTH AUTHORITY CONDOMNS ATKINS. CONTINUED LOW CARB HIGH FAT
AND PROTEIN DIET WILL RESULT IN MANY POTENTIAL FATAL CONSEQUENCES."

The first warning for cigarettes was fairly lame: "Smoking
may be hazardous to your health." Hopefully, with Atkins the FDA
won't play around with such lame disclaimers and get straight to the
sort of disclaimer mandated in 1978.

Similar to how America learned about terrorism by 911,
Americans (if this Atkins brainwashing continues) will have to ask
whether the first amendment worth millions of Americans suffering
heart attacks, kidney disease, stroke, brain damage and then death.
For the first amendment is what protects the media from running Atkins
adverting. 911 taught us to act proactively to potential threats.
Yet, library shelves are filled with potential health threats,
collecting cobwebs, as was Atkins a year ago.

The media has a choice; each newspaper, TV station
etc. can get millions of dollars in ad revenue or act responsibly.
Tragically, the media's value is to make money instead of helping save
lives.

If the present advertising trend continues, similar to
cigarette smoking, Atkins ads by late 2005 will be replaced with
Public Service Announcements about how "those tens of millions who
have become coronary ticking time bombs can defuse themselves and get
back to a healthy lifestyle."

Of course it wasn't until 1990 until the first PSA
for using condoms was run on a non-cable network (Fox) which at the
time was a very struggling network. By the time Fox ran the first
Condom PSA, 200,000 Americans had already died.

There was a newspaper chain (with tobacco financial
interests) THE MEMPHIS PUBLISING COMPANY that wouldn't run cigarette
ads with the surgeon general warning in the early 1970's. The
Tennessee and US Attorney General had to virtually take over the
newsroom of many Memphis Publishing Company publications to guarantee
ads ran with the warning. (Leech vs. Memphis Publishing Company)

Presently, there is a branch of the Federal Trade
Commission called the National Advertising Review Board that reviews
deceptive ads and if the advertiser is "found guilty" the advertiser
is forced to place corrective advertising.

Based on the pathetic irresponsibility of the media
promoting the Atkins Death Sentence, which could lead to millions of
ARDS. Perhaps the best thing to do would be to fine the media for
running the advertising along with the advertiser.

The fine to the medium (that is a singular noun form
of media referring to a single member of the media) would be twice the
amount that was billed to the advertiser.

It is clear that the media that have barely mentioned
Senate Bill 722 and HR. 3377, which would effectively ban supplements
while promoting Atkins Low Carb, does not deserve the First Amendment.
Through American history a FREE PRESS has had generally more tragedy
than benefit-Pentagon Papers etc.

Similar to cigarette smoking, the Atkins death
sentence takes at least 2 years to prevail. And unlike AIDS there is a
cure. Not one single person who started on the Atkins Low Carb death
style, say about 6 months ago when the advertising rush started has
suffered any permanent health risk and can go back to a low fat, low
cholesterol, high nutrient dense diet without burdening their loved
ones with hospitalization and funerals.

If anything comes of this Atkins epidemic is that
maybe the first amendment might finally be amended. For its hard to
tell which is worse. That Americans can be brainwashed by advertising.
Or that the media ignores lives for money.

Atkins isn't a fad, its potential epidemic. You can get
HIV or other STD;s with one time of unprotected sex. Fortunately, one
can't get ARDS with just one month or even a year of Atkins So, there
is hope?..



Love Means Never Having To Say, You're Sorry?.


STEVE BAYT




It's unkown when my next Atkins bashing article will be done. Maybe
not until July 11th.

"Tony Lew" wrote in message
om...
(Steve Randy Shilts Bayt) wrote in message
. com...
STEVE BAYT
(Parma/Brook Park, Ohio)

I can't figure out if this guy is just a troll pretending to
be really stupid, or if he really is this stupid.

I bet he'd be surprised to find out that what he's full of is somewhat lower
in carbs.

"flashback" wrote in message ...
Must have been written by an RD. They are so full of stupid advice. Like
just eat less calories per day. That advice has condemned millions to yo
yo dieting and death from gaining back more weight than they took off.

"Steve Randy Shilts Bayt" wrote in message
om...
STEVE BAYT
(Parma/Brook Park, Ohio)


So, this article's research and analysis took much longer than
the objective of 48 hours. For now that millions of Americans have
been brainwashed by the Atkins Low Carb Death Sentence, it's only a
matter of a year or so until the annual 992,000 average American
deaths makes AIDS look like a warm-up act to ARDS-Atkins Related Death
Syndrome.

Where is your study? hmmmmmmm

Heart disease is virtually entirely by eating too much fat
and cholesterol. Other causes comprise a very small percent. So people
can do the math as to how many deaths have been attributed to Atkins
and related diets. As they can do the math for how the death toll will
increase due to Atkins' increased advertising.

You make a simplistic statement to describe what in fact is a many
faceted face of heart disease.

I guess he didn't stumble onto the fact that much heart disease is
caused by cigarette smoking in his 48+ hours of "reseasch".
What a moron.

STEVE BAYT
(Parma/Brook Park, Ohio)

I can't figure out if this guy is just a troll pretending to
be really stupid, or if he really is this stupid.

I bet he'd be surprised to find out that what he's full of is somewhat lower
in carbs.

What chaps me is that he's using the name of one of my favorite
non-fiction writers, who's not alive to protest.

In article ,
Tony Lew wrote:
(Steve Randy Shilts Bayt) wrote in message
.com...
STEVE BAYT
(Parma/Brook Park, Ohio)

I can't figure out if this guy is just a troll pretending to
be really stupid, or if he really is this stupid.

I think he's really this stupid, based on some other things he's
written, but he's got some other hobbyhorses, in particular a Senate
Bill that he really hates. At first I thought he was some sort of
paid shill who was conducting a for-profit campaign against Senate
Bill SB722, but I'm starting to think he's just a nut.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)