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Atkins = ? (should i start this again?)
"MadRedHatter" wrote in message news:Ydhrb.346965$6C4.158687@pd7tw1no... | | Eat sensibly. Exercise regularly. Burn more calories then you take in. | | Why fall for the fad diet de jour? | | That's excellent advice, IMO. Fads come and go. Your body needs the right blend of nutrients along with the calories. Shorting good things by loading up on others (good and/or bad) may have longer term problems. If you limit fats, eat plenty of fiber, and balance the rest of your intake to make sure you feed substantially on the proper nutrients, you'll get into better health/shape. Take a look at your waist to hip ratio (waist divided by hips). Males should be less than 1 (your hips should be 'bigger' than your waist). Get a feel for your body type (small, medium, or large frame) and check that against your weight. Look at your BMI. At 5'6" and 190, you are over 30, which is categorized as obese. One pound equates to about 3,500 calories. If you cut 500 calories per day from your diet, you should lose one pound in 7 days. 500 calories is like cutting out the equivalent of 5 pieces of bread - not much. Add to that some exercise (walk for 45 minutes and cover 2 miles say, and burn a couple hundred more calories) and not only will you drop more weight, but you will exercise one of the most important muscles in your body - your heart. |
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Look at your BMI. At 5'6" and 190, you are over 30, which is
categorized as obese. And if he is at 12% bodyfat? Still obese? Idiot. |
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In article ,
Patricia Heil wrote: Don't go Atkins. Replace the sugar in your diet with things like fruit, which are sweet but have complex sugars. They also have nutrients, which refined sugar does not. They also have fiber which will help you feel full longer. Make sure you get plenty of veg which also have nutrients and fiber. Try [snip the insanity] I recently posted here that one of my concerns with Atkins is that 68% of those who tried it, in one clinical study, wound up constipated. That is bad for long term health. Removing fiber from the diet demonstrably leads to colo-rectal cancer, the third leading cancer killer behind lung cancer and prostate cancer, and therefore the #2 preventable killer cancer. I even have anecdotal evidence, a friend of mine was unable to tolerate any fiber in her diet and she died about 20 years ago from colo-rectal cancer at the age of only about 40. Do you have even the foggiest notion of what the Atkins plan entails? Have you read even page one of the book? I ate more vegetables and fiber last WEEK than I did in a month before Atkins. Remember the scene in "Ace Ventura: Pet Detective" where Jim Carrey's character talks out of his ass? Well, you can turn around now, stop speaking, and learn something, 'cause I'm only going to say this once. Do you really think all we do is cut the fat off the bacon and slather it in butter before eating it raw? God, how thick can you be? Cutting the carbs to under 20g is simply a tool to jump-start the process for a short time in the beginning. I'm somewhere around 60-70g a day and have been for over a year. Here's what I ate yesterday on the evil, death causing Atkins diet: (around 50-60g carbs and maybe 1900 calories) BREAKFAST (daily) 1 cup of full-fat yogurt (oh, God...my heart....aaacck) 26g of extra-fiber All-Bran 2 cups of home-roasted coffee with cream and Splenda (14g carbs) SNACK 2 oz of mozzarella cheese (2g carbs) LUNCH Broccoli-slaw salad 100g broccoli-slaw (broccoli/a few carrots, red cabbage) 2 oz smoked ham 1 oz feta cheese 75g grape tomatoes 1 oz slivered almonds 2 T balsamic vinegar curry powder, lemon grass, sea-salt (15g carbs) DINNER Stir-Fry 2 T olive oil 175g chicken breast 100g broccoli (like it a lot) 75g mushrooms 1oz blue cheese 50g red pepper 50g grape tomatoes (10g carbs) 1 glass white merlot (too sweet, but OK) 1 cup of home-roasted coffee with cream and Splenda 100g strawberries (10g carbs) This is some variation of what I eat daily. I don't eat grains, pasta, sugar, potatoes, corn, sugary fruits like apples and bananas, and other food bombs loaded with carbs. I also haven't had a slice of bacon in two months and eat beef about once every two weeks. I eat salmon, chicken, turkey, lamb, other fish, plus tons of vegetables (broccoli, cauliflower, beans, lettuces, asparagus). I eat all types of berries and melons. I love nuts but try to stay reasonable. Yes, I eat low-carb treats sometimes because I have a sweet tooth, but the "side-effects" (or would that be "rear effects") of sugar alcohols are fairly self-regulating. And a few little side-benefits of losing this weight? BP from 145/95 to 110/68. Resting pulse from 90 to 64. Fatty liver disease-gone. Joint pain-gone. Snoring-gone. Acid-reflux disease-gone. Cholesterol-normal. Clothes-they fit. Food bills-lower, since I'm not buying crap four nights a week after dinner. Please... I would never deride your decision to go low-fat if it works for you, so don't even begin to think you know the first damn thing about what low-carb really is. How about this....when the mass media gets it right the first time about low-carb, I'll let you know, and THEN you can draw conclusions based on what Oprah said yesterday. BTW....I lost 110 pounds on Atkins and have kept it off for 13 months, so thanks for playing. -- Wayne Crannell Atkins+ 10/27/01 Maintenance 10/1/02 250/138 |
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"JC Der Koenig" wrote in message ... | Look at your BMI. At 5'6" and 190, you are over 30, which is | categorized as obese. | | | | And if he is at 12% bodyfat? Still obese? | | Idiot. | | Still categorized as obese... learn to read. |
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"Dave" wrote in message news:cavrb.17594$pK6.8066@lakeread02... "JC Der Koenig" wrote in message ... | Look at your BMI. At 5'6" and 190, you are over 30, which is | categorized as obese. | | | | And if he is at 12% bodyfat? Still obese? | | Idiot. | | Still categorized as obese... learn to read. Now you've gone beyond idiocy into moronville. |
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He's asking for info on Atkins, not info on how to ween yourself into a sickly vegetarian. On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 09:01:17 -0500, Patricia Heil wrote: Don't go Atkins. Replace the sugar in your diet with things like fruit, which are sweet but have complex sugars. They also have nutrients, which refined sugar does not. They also have fiber which will help you feel full longer. Make sure you get plenty of veg which also have nutrients and fiber. Try to replace some of your meat with dried beans/split peas/ lentils; it will lower the fat in your diet, increase the fiber, provide protein, iron (although low-absorption), and help lower your LDL. Beans are also cheaper than meat. You can also use tofu instead of meat in stir-fries. Another trick is to use eggplant in your ragu sauce instead of meat. For example, if you usually use 2 pounds of meat to a bag of kidney beans in your chili, use 1 pound of meat to a bag; also make sure the meat is low-fat, such as extra lean ground beef, or well trimmed stew beef. And DON'T add cheese to your chili. DO add lots of garlic and jalapenos for the flavor, as well as onions. |
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Vegetarian wrote:
JC Der Koenig wrote: Look at your BMI. At 5'6" and 190, you are over 30, which is categorized as obese. And if he is at 12% bodyfat? Still obese? Idiot. I highly doubt that having this pile of useless, worthless muscles is doing anything good for his health. Having a BMI of 32 is bad. Being fat at BMI 32 is horrible, being muscular at BMI 32 is not that great either. References? Can you point to any peer-reviewed studies that indicate that "excess" muscle mass raises health risk? BMI is used as a simple-minded proxy for BF% because, in the broad cross-section of society, people with high BMI have high BF. It is an unwarranted leap to conclude that high BMI with low BF% causes health risk. Some dumbo bodybuilders think that by growing muscles, they are doing themselves a favor. One needs to only look at their IQ to realize that it is not the case and that they are not benefitting. Fascinating. Please describe the process by which you conflated an interest in hypertropy with a lack of IQ. -- -Wayne |
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"Patricia Heil" wrote in message
... I recently posted here that one of my concerns with Atkins is that 68% of those who tried it, in one clinical study, wound up constipated. And how long was this study? Did they ever get past the first phase? That is kind of important, as you move past induction, which is supposed to last 2 weeks only, you are supposed to begin eating more vegetables, and less of other things. Two weeks is not long enough to give you long term problems, and any study that focuses on the begining stage as if it is the whole diet is worthless as a source of information. That is bad for long term health. Removing fiber from the diet demonstrably leads to colo-rectal cancer, the third leading cancer killer behind lung cancer and prostate cancer, and therefore the #2 preventable killer cancer. Atkins goes out of it's way to insist on lots of fiber-- and in the two week beiginning phase if you do not eat enough fiberous vegetables, you are supposed to ease the *temporary* situation with fiber supplements. I even have anecdotal evidence, a friend of mine was unable to tolerate any fiber in her diet and she died about 20 years ago from colo-rectal cancer at the age of only about 40. I'm terribly sorry for your loss. But really you are arguing a strawman. Atkins is not a no fiber/ no veggie diet. revek --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.536 / Virus Database: 331 - Release Date: 11/3/2003 |
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"Vegetarian" wrote in message ... In article , JC Der Koenig wrote: Look at your BMI. At 5'6" and 190, you are over 30, which is categorized as obese. And if he is at 12% bodyfat? Still obese? Idiot. I highly doubt that having this pile of useless, worthless muscles is doing anything good for his health. Having a BMI of 32 is bad. Being fat at BMI 32 is horrible, being muscular at BMI 32 is not that great either. Some dumbo bodybuilders think that by growing muscles, they are doing themselves a favor. One needs to only look at their IQ to realize that it is not the case and that they are not benefitting. John. I've been laboring under the misconception that any correlation between muscularity and intelligence is strictly coincidental. Would you care to cite any studies that back up your gay little hypothesis? |
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Wayne S. Hill wrote:
Vegetarian wrote: JC Der Koenig wrote: Look at your BMI. At 5'6" and 190, you are over 30, which is categorized as obese. And if he is at 12% bodyfat? Still obese? Idiot. I highly doubt that having this pile of useless, worthless muscles is doing anything good for his health. Having a BMI of 32 is bad. Being fat at BMI 32 is horrible, being muscular at BMI 32 is not that great either. References? Can you point to any peer-reviewed studies that indicate that "excess" muscle mass raises health risk? BMI is used as a simple-minded proxy for BF% because, in the broad cross-section of society, people with high BMI have high BF. It is an unwarranted leap to conclude that high BMI with low BF% causes health risk. Some dumbo bodybuilders think that by growing muscles, they are doing themselves a favor. One needs to only look at their IQ to realize that it is not the case and that they are not benefitting. Fascinating. Please describe the process by which you conflated an interest in hypertropy with a lack of IQ. I'm far more interested in reading how the bbers all thought they would get smarter as hypertrophy was realized. I had no idea intelligence increase was the goal; I didn't even know IQ _could_ be increased by adding muscle. Silly me. Maybe it's all that meat that makes them stoopid? Or, perhaps, arguably, a lack of dietary meat has rendered "Vegetarian" logially inept? Kalo |
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