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self sabotage?: food post
I'm not sure if I'm sabotaging myself or not. Yesterday I had a lower
points sort of day because I wasn't as hungry yesterday. This morning I woke up hungry, had some fruit, skipped the morning snack because it was too busy at work, had my lunch, saved a portion for later and had an afternoon snack on top of that (12 points). When I came home I was ravenous. I had a bag of ceasar salad with a little dressing (1oz according to the scale), 2 crab stix, and a few mini merangues. (Maybe 4 points) When dh came home, we went out to dinner to a Mexican-style place, Chevy's. I had 3 containers of salsa (3 points) and the chips that go with it-I take huge scoops of salsa so I could finish a container with 5-6 chips (no idea how many points). Then or food came and I had 1/2 of one of my Napa quesedilla's (sp?) and a wedge of dh's fiery. I checked the Chevy's site and dwlz.com and neither his or my dinners were on there so I don't really know what to count dinner as. I can't imagine that the dinner portion that I ate had substantial points because it was so little and there was very little cheese, no guac or sour cream on either, but on the other hand we were out to dinner, it tasted good-had to be loaded with points right? I was looking forward to seeing downward trend on the scale and I'm not sure that will happen now. I have been weighing daily to see if I can see some sort of trend, but I think I'm going to have to make it every other day or more because it's as if I see myself lose weight and then want to celebrate with food (self sabotage?). I'm feeling a bit bad about myself for going out to dinner so early in this new woe because I'm trying to learn good habits (more sabotage?). I do know that I was completely satisfied after my quesdilla 1/2 and then I pushed it with the second half of hubby's wedge. I also know that in the past, I would have gotten the meal that was covered in a cream sauce and I didn't do that. I also know that normally (or maybe I should say in the past) I can keep eating well past the point where dh stops. I didn't do that this time because I noticed I was feeling full. I also think that I ate less in general this time. I'm not really comfortable with going out to eat because I don't know all the point values and I'm changing what I choose, but simply assigning some arbitrary number to something that I don't know the nutritional information on is difficult for me. I don't want to give up going out to dinner though because it's a break that I need from cooking and I like to get out every now and again for some variety. Suggestions? This post got long on me. Thanks for sticking through it. Julie |
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self sabotage?: food post
You are thinking about what you are doing, that is an NSV of the highest
magnitude. You are listening to your body and eating less, another NSV. all you need change is making sure you find something similar to be able to count the points, I think you rare doing grand, Lee skiur wrote in message ... I'm not sure if I'm sabotaging myself or not. Yesterday I had a lower points sort of day because I wasn't as hungry yesterday. This morning I woke up hungry, had some fruit, skipped the morning snack because it was too busy at work, had my lunch, saved a portion for later and had an afternoon snack on top of that (12 points). When I came home I was ravenous. I had a bag of ceasar salad with a little dressing (1oz according to the scale), 2 crab stix, and a few mini merangues. (Maybe 4 points) When dh came home, we went out to dinner to a Mexican-style place, Chevy's. I had 3 containers of salsa (3 points) and the chips that go with it-I take huge scoops of salsa so I could finish a container with 5-6 chips (no idea how many points). Then or food came and I had 1/2 of one of my Napa quesedilla's (sp?) and a wedge of dh's fiery. I checked the Chevy's site and dwlz.com and neither his or my dinners were on there so I don't really know what to count dinner as. I can't imagine that the dinner portion that I ate had substantial points because it was so little and there was very little cheese, no guac or sour cream on either, but on the other hand we were out to dinner, it tasted good-had to be loaded with points right? I was looking forward to seeing downward trend on the scale and I'm not sure that will happen now. I have been weighing daily to see if I can see some sort of trend, but I think I'm going to have to make it every other day or more because it's as if I see myself lose weight and then want to celebrate with food (self sabotage?). I'm feeling a bit bad about myself for going out to dinner so early in this new woe because I'm trying to learn good habits (more sabotage?). I do know that I was completely satisfied after my quesdilla 1/2 and then I pushed it with the second half of hubby's wedge. I also know that in the past, I would have gotten the meal that was covered in a cream sauce and I didn't do that. I also know that normally (or maybe I should say in the past) I can keep eating well past the point where dh stops. I didn't do that this time because I noticed I was feeling full. I also think that I ate less in general this time. I'm not really comfortable with going out to eat because I don't know all the point values and I'm changing what I choose, but simply assigning some arbitrary number to something that I don't know the nutritional information on is difficult for me. I don't want to give up going out to dinner though because it's a break that I need from cooking and I like to get out every now and again for some variety. Suggestions? This post got long on me. Thanks for sticking through it. Julie |
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self sabotage?: food post
Julie:
Going out to eat isn't sabotage!! It's part of life. WW is all about doing this for the rest of your life. Don't expect yourself to start any behaviours that you can't maintain for the rest of your life. From my Dining out Companion Quesadillas are 5 pts for 1/2 of a 6" diameter. It sounds like you had 5 pts plus 1/3 of 5 pts from hubby (count that as 2). That's 7 pts. Not bad. Count it and move on. If you need to use some flex pts that's what they are there for. No worries. Buy a Dining Out Companion. It will help with dining out problems. Weighing yourself everyday can cause problems for some people. If you feel like you are changing what you eat depending on what the scale says (for the worse) maybe you should just weigh in once a week. Connie skiur wrote: I'm not sure if I'm sabotaging myself or not. Yesterday I had a lower points sort of day because I wasn't as hungry yesterday. This morning I woke up hungry, had some fruit, skipped the morning snack because it was too busy at work, had my lunch, saved a portion for later and had an afternoon snack on top of that (12 points). When I came home I was ravenous. I had a bag of ceasar salad with a little dressing (1oz according to the scale), 2 crab stix, and a few mini merangues. (Maybe 4 points) When dh came home, we went out to dinner to a Mexican-style place, Chevy's. I had 3 containers of salsa (3 points) and the chips that go with it-I take huge scoops of salsa so I could finish a container with 5-6 chips (no idea how many points). Then or food came and I had 1/2 of one of my Napa quesedilla's (sp?) and a wedge of dh's fiery. I checked the Chevy's site and dwlz.com and neither his or my dinners were on there so I don't really know what to count dinner as. I can't imagine that the dinner portion that I ate had substantial points because it was so little and there was very little cheese, no guac or sour cream on either, but on the other hand we were out to dinner, it tasted good-had to be loaded with points right? I was looking forward to seeing downward trend on the scale and I'm not sure that will happen now. I have been weighing daily to see if I can see some sort of trend, but I think I'm going to have to make it every other day or more because it's as if I see myself lose weight and then want to celebrate with food (self sabotage?). I'm feeling a bit bad about myself for going out to dinner so early in this new woe because I'm trying to learn good habits (more sabotage?). I do know that I was completely satisfied after my quesdilla 1/2 and then I pushed it with the second half of hubby's wedge. I also know that in the past, I would have gotten the meal that was covered in a cream sauce and I didn't do that. I also know that normally (or maybe I should say in the past) I can keep eating well past the point where dh stops. I didn't do that this time because I noticed I was feeling full. I also think that I ate less in general this time. I'm not really comfortable with going out to eat because I don't know all the point values and I'm changing what I choose, but simply assigning some arbitrary number to something that I don't know the nutritional information on is difficult for me. I don't want to give up going out to dinner though because it's a break that I need from cooking and I like to get out every now and again for some variety. Suggestions? This post got long on me. Thanks for sticking through it. Julie -- Cheers, Connie Walsh 241.5/202/155 RAFL 210.5/202/198.5 |
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Thanks Lee. That means a lot to me.
Julie "Miss Violette" wrote in message ... You are thinking about what you are doing, that is an NSV of the highest magnitude. You are listening to your body and eating less, another NSV. all you need change is making sure you find something similar to be able to count the points, I think you rare doing grand, Lee skiur wrote in message ... I'm not sure if I'm sabotaging myself or not. Yesterday I had a lower points sort of day because I wasn't as hungry yesterday. This morning I woke up hungry, had some fruit, skipped the morning snack because it was too busy at work, had my lunch, saved a portion for later and had an afternoon snack on top of that (12 points). When I came home I was ravenous. I had a bag of ceasar salad with a little dressing (1oz according to the scale), 2 crab stix, and a few mini merangues. (Maybe 4 points) When dh came home, we went out to dinner to a Mexican-style place, Chevy's. I had 3 containers of salsa (3 points) and the chips that go with it-I take huge scoops of salsa so I could finish a container with 5-6 chips (no idea how many points). Then or food came and I had 1/2 of one of my Napa quesedilla's (sp?) and a wedge of dh's fiery. I checked the Chevy's site and dwlz.com and neither his or my dinners were on there so I don't really know what to count dinner as. I can't imagine that the dinner portion that I ate had substantial points because it was so little and there was very little cheese, no guac or sour cream on either, but on the other hand we were out to dinner, it tasted good-had to be loaded with points right? I was looking forward to seeing downward trend on the scale and I'm not sure that will happen now. I have been weighing daily to see if I can see some sort of trend, but I think I'm going to have to make it every other day or more because it's as if I see myself lose weight and then want to celebrate with food (self sabotage?). I'm feeling a bit bad about myself for going out to dinner so early in this new woe because I'm trying to learn good habits (more sabotage?). I do know that I was completely satisfied after my quesdilla 1/2 and then I pushed it with the second half of hubby's wedge. I also know that in the past, I would have gotten the meal that was covered in a cream sauce and I didn't do that. I also know that normally (or maybe I should say in the past) I can keep eating well past the point where dh stops. I didn't do that this time because I noticed I was feeling full. I also think that I ate less in general this time. I'm not really comfortable with going out to eat because I don't know all the point values and I'm changing what I choose, but simply assigning some arbitrary number to something that I don't know the nutritional information on is difficult for me. I don't want to give up going out to dinner though because it's a break that I need from cooking and I like to get out every now and again for some variety. Suggestions? This post got long on me. Thanks for sticking through it. Julie |
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self sabotage?: food post
Thanks for the point count.
I did tuck the scale away, but couldn't resist getting on it anyway. I just patted myself on the back for not getting upset about what I saw and moved on for the day. I still didn't track it in my sheet though, which is probably a very good idea. Julie "Connie" wrote in message ... Julie: Going out to eat isn't sabotage!! It's part of life. WW is all about doing this for the rest of your life. Don't expect yourself to start any behaviours that you can't maintain for the rest of your life. From my Dining out Companion Quesadillas are 5 pts for 1/2 of a 6" diameter. It sounds like you had 5 pts plus 1/3 of 5 pts from hubby (count that as 2). That's 7 pts. Not bad. Count it and move on. If you need to use some flex pts that's what they are there for. No worries. Buy a Dining Out Companion. It will help with dining out problems. Weighing yourself everyday can cause problems for some people. If you feel like you are changing what you eat depending on what the scale says (for the worse) maybe you should just weigh in once a week. Connie skiur wrote: I'm not sure if I'm sabotaging myself or not. Yesterday I had a lower points sort of day because I wasn't as hungry yesterday. This morning I woke up hungry, had some fruit, skipped the morning snack because it was too busy at work, had my lunch, saved a portion for later and had an afternoon snack on top of that (12 points). When I came home I was ravenous. I had a bag of ceasar salad with a little dressing (1oz according to the scale), 2 crab stix, and a few mini merangues. (Maybe 4 points) When dh came home, we went out to dinner to a Mexican-style place, Chevy's. I had 3 containers of salsa (3 points) and the chips that go with it-I take huge scoops of salsa so I could finish a container with 5-6 chips (no idea how many points). Then or food came and I had 1/2 of one of my Napa quesedilla's (sp?) and a wedge of dh's fiery. I checked the Chevy's site and dwlz.com and neither his or my dinners were on there so I don't really know what to count dinner as. I can't imagine that the dinner portion that I ate had substantial points because it was so little and there was very little cheese, no guac or sour cream on either, but on the other hand we were out to dinner, it tasted good-had to be loaded with points right? I was looking forward to seeing downward trend on the scale and I'm not sure that will happen now. I have been weighing daily to see if I can see some sort of trend, but I think I'm going to have to make it every other day or more because it's as if I see myself lose weight and then want to celebrate with food (self sabotage?). I'm feeling a bit bad about myself for going out to dinner so early in this new woe because I'm trying to learn good habits (more sabotage?). I do know that I was completely satisfied after my quesdilla 1/2 and then I pushed it with the second half of hubby's wedge. I also know that in the past, I would have gotten the meal that was covered in a cream sauce and I didn't do that. I also know that normally (or maybe I should say in the past) I can keep eating well past the point where dh stops. I didn't do that this time because I noticed I was feeling full. I also think that I ate less in general this time. I'm not really comfortable with going out to eat because I don't know all the point values and I'm changing what I choose, but simply assigning some arbitrary number to something that I don't know the nutritional information on is difficult for me. I don't want to give up going out to dinner though because it's a break that I need from cooking and I like to get out every now and again for some variety. Suggestions? This post got long on me. Thanks for sticking through it. Julie -- Cheers, Connie Walsh 241.5/202/155 RAFL 210.5/202/198.5 |
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Hey Julie, quit beating yourself up, okay? grin Going out is part of life,
enjoying it is part of life. You want to make ww part of life, and ww allows you to go out and enjoy the moment. Get back on track at the next opportunity. Make ammends for it the next few days by cutting back on other items. We all do it all the time, it works out in the end. While your choice of what you had out may have been better (I tend to avoid items with cheese), cutting back on the quantity you ate is definitely a step in the right direction. Salsa is very low in points, probably no damage there. Chips aren't great, but also not too bad if you keep the quantity under control. I love the tostado chips, are my downfall whenever we go out. So I go ahead and eat them, enjoy the splurge, and make up for it later in the week. No guilt trips, no looking back, only look ahead. Try and stay off the scale for a few days, any increase you will see will more than likely just be salt. Think of it this way ... it takes 3500 excess calories to equal 1 pound of fat. Do you honestly think you ate 3500 calories in that dinner? NO! While it may be possible to do that in a week, it is pretty difficult to accomplish in one meal (unless you are eating Fred's killer chocolate cake). I will admit that in the beginning, I also had a tough time going out to eat - but I still did it. It became easier down the road. I started by making different choices ... trying the fish at our fav mexican place (Cozymel's) and finding it was absolutely wonderful. Ordering sauces on the side, substituting grilled veggies for rice/beans - or asking for unwanted items to be eliminated from the plate entirely. If I don't see them I won't eat them. Now my tastes have really changed and I rarely think about what I am ordering. The waitress knows me so well, will automatically tell me what their seafood of the day is and knows the rest of the order. LOL Hang in there. With each trip out it does become a bit easier. If in doubt, check out www.dwlz.com , the restaurant section ... tons of restaurant listings with points. Have somewhat of an idea in your head before you go, and try to stick to it. I think you're doing great. Joyce On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 22:16:36 -0600, "skiur" wrote: I'm not sure if I'm sabotaging myself or not. Yesterday I had a lower points sort of day because I wasn't as hungry yesterday. This morning I woke up hungry, had some fruit, skipped the morning snack because it was too busy at work, had my lunch, saved a portion for later and had an afternoon snack on top of that (12 points). When I came home I was ravenous. I had a bag of ceasar salad with a little dressing (1oz according to the scale), 2 crab stix, and a few mini merangues. (Maybe 4 points) When dh came home, we went out to dinner to a Mexican-style place, Chevy's. I had 3 containers of salsa (3 points) and the chips that go with it-I take huge scoops of salsa so I could finish a container with 5-6 chips (no idea how many points). Then or food came and I had 1/2 of one of my Napa quesedilla's (sp?) and a wedge of dh's fiery. I checked the Chevy's site and dwlz.com and neither his or my dinners were on there so I don't really know what to count dinner as. I can't imagine that the dinner portion that I ate had substantial points because it was so little and there was very little cheese, no guac or sour cream on either, but on the other hand we were out to dinner, it tasted good-had to be loaded with points right? I was looking forward to seeing downward trend on the scale and I'm not sure that will happen now. I have been weighing daily to see if I can see some sort of trend, but I think I'm going to have to make it every other day or more because it's as if I see myself lose weight and then want to celebrate with food (self sabotage?). I'm feeling a bit bad about myself for going out to dinner so early in this new woe because I'm trying to learn good habits (more sabotage?). I do know that I was completely satisfied after my quesdilla 1/2 and then I pushed it with the second half of hubby's wedge. I also know that in the past, I would have gotten the meal that was covered in a cream sauce and I didn't do that. I also know that normally (or maybe I should say in the past) I can keep eating well past the point where dh stops. I didn't do that this time because I noticed I was feeling full. I also think that I ate less in general this time. I'm not really comfortable with going out to eat because I don't know all the point values and I'm changing what I choose, but simply assigning some arbitrary number to something that I don't know the nutritional information on is difficult for me. I don't want to give up going out to dinner though because it's a break that I need from cooking and I like to get out every now and again for some variety. Suggestions? This post got long on me. Thanks for sticking through it. Julie |
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and remember there is no right answer to this scale thing. for the first
month I weighed every day. I tracked it to get some kind of trend but it did upset me a bunch. Then I joined WW and struggled to stay away from the scale. I finally beat the need to weigh and now I always weigh before going to my meeting to not have a huge shock in public. Now I weigh additionally when I feel really bloated or skinny to help me track things and it no longer bothers me, do what makes you most comfortable, Lee skiur wrote in message ... Thanks for the point count. I did tuck the scale away, but couldn't resist getting on it anyway. I just patted myself on the back for not getting upset about what I saw and moved on for the day. I still didn't track it in my sheet though, which is probably a very good idea. Julie "Connie" wrote in message ... Julie: Going out to eat isn't sabotage!! It's part of life. WW is all about doing this for the rest of your life. Don't expect yourself to start any behaviours that you can't maintain for the rest of your life. From my Dining out Companion Quesadillas are 5 pts for 1/2 of a 6" diameter. It sounds like you had 5 pts plus 1/3 of 5 pts from hubby (count that as 2). That's 7 pts. Not bad. Count it and move on. If you need to use some flex pts that's what they are there for. No worries. Buy a Dining Out Companion. It will help with dining out problems. Weighing yourself everyday can cause problems for some people. If you feel like you are changing what you eat depending on what the scale says (for the worse) maybe you should just weigh in once a week. Connie skiur wrote: I'm not sure if I'm sabotaging myself or not. Yesterday I had a lower points sort of day because I wasn't as hungry yesterday. This morning I woke up hungry, had some fruit, skipped the morning snack because it was too busy at work, had my lunch, saved a portion for later and had an afternoon snack on top of that (12 points). When I came home I was ravenous. I had a bag of ceasar salad with a little dressing (1oz according to the scale), 2 crab stix, and a few mini merangues. (Maybe 4 points) When dh came home, we went out to dinner to a Mexican-style place, Chevy's. I had 3 containers of salsa (3 points) and the chips that go with it-I take huge scoops of salsa so I could finish a container with 5-6 chips (no idea how many points). Then or food came and I had 1/2 of one of my Napa quesedilla's (sp?) and a wedge of dh's fiery. I checked the Chevy's site and dwlz.com and neither his or my dinners were on there so I don't really know what to count dinner as. I can't imagine that the dinner portion that I ate had substantial points because it was so little and there was very little cheese, no guac or sour cream on either, but on the other hand we were out to dinner, it tasted good-had to be loaded with points right? I was looking forward to seeing downward trend on the scale and I'm not sure that will happen now. I have been weighing daily to see if I can see some sort of trend, but I think I'm going to have to make it every other day or more because it's as if I see myself lose weight and then want to celebrate with food (self sabotage?). I'm feeling a bit bad about myself for going out to dinner so early in this new woe because I'm trying to learn good habits (more sabotage?). I do know that I was completely satisfied after my quesdilla 1/2 and then I pushed it with the second half of hubby's wedge. I also know that in the past, I would have gotten the meal that was covered in a cream sauce and I didn't do that. I also know that normally (or maybe I should say in the past) I can keep eating well past the point where dh stops. I didn't do that this time because I noticed I was feeling full. I also think that I ate less in general this time. I'm not really comfortable with going out to eat because I don't know all the point values and I'm changing what I choose, but simply assigning some arbitrary number to something that I don't know the nutritional information on is difficult for me. I don't want to give up going out to dinner though because it's a break that I need from cooking and I like to get out every now and again for some variety. Suggestions? This post got long on me. Thanks for sticking through it. Julie -- Cheers, Connie Walsh 241.5/202/155 RAFL 210.5/202/198.5 |
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Hey, other than slamming my chocolate cakes (g), you make excellent
points. Eating out is part of life and finding reasonable foods on those excursions becomes part of the long term solution On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 01:18:52 -0600, Joyce wrote: Hey Julie, quit beating yourself up, okay? grin Going out is part of life, enjoying it is part of life. You want to make ww part of life, and ww allows you to go out and enjoy the moment. Get back on track at the next opportunity. Make ammends for it the next few days by cutting back on other items. We all do it all the time, it works out in the end. While your choice of what you had out may have been better (I tend to avoid items with cheese), cutting back on the quantity you ate is definitely a step in the right direction. Salsa is very low in points, probably no damage there. Chips aren't great, but also not too bad if you keep the quantity under control. I love the tostado chips, are my downfall whenever we go out. So I go ahead and eat them, enjoy the splurge, and make up for it later in the week. No guilt trips, no looking back, only look ahead. Try and stay off the scale for a few days, any increase you will see will more than likely just be salt. Think of it this way ... it takes 3500 excess calories to equal 1 pound of fat. Do you honestly think you ate 3500 calories in that dinner? NO! While it may be possible to do that in a week, it is pretty difficult to accomplish in one meal (unless you are eating Fred's killer chocolate cake). I will admit that in the beginning, I also had a tough time going out to eat - but I still did it. It became easier down the road. I started by making different choices ... trying the fish at our fav mexican place (Cozymel's) and finding it was absolutely wonderful. Ordering sauces on the side, substituting grilled veggies for rice/beans - or asking for unwanted items to be eliminated from the plate entirely. If I don't see them I won't eat them. Now my tastes have really changed and I rarely think about what I am ordering. The waitress knows me so well, will automatically tell me what their seafood of the day is and knows the rest of the order. LOL Hang in there. With each trip out it does become a bit easier. If in doubt, check out www.dwlz.com , the restaurant section ... tons of restaurant listings with points. Have somewhat of an idea in your head before you go, and try to stick to it. I think you're doing great. Joyce On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 22:16:36 -0600, "skiur" wrote: I'm not sure if I'm sabotaging myself or not. Yesterday I had a lower points sort of day because I wasn't as hungry yesterday. This morning I woke up hungry, had some fruit, skipped the morning snack because it was too busy at work, had my lunch, saved a portion for later and had an afternoon snack on top of that (12 points). When I came home I was ravenous. I had a bag of ceasar salad with a little dressing (1oz according to the scale), 2 crab stix, and a few mini merangues. (Maybe 4 points) When dh came home, we went out to dinner to a Mexican-style place, Chevy's. I had 3 containers of salsa (3 points) and the chips that go with it-I take huge scoops of salsa so I could finish a container with 5-6 chips (no idea how many points). Then or food came and I had 1/2 of one of my Napa quesedilla's (sp?) and a wedge of dh's fiery. I checked the Chevy's site and dwlz.com and neither his or my dinners were on there so I don't really know what to count dinner as. I can't imagine that the dinner portion that I ate had substantial points because it was so little and there was very little cheese, no guac or sour cream on either, but on the other hand we were out to dinner, it tasted good-had to be loaded with points right? I was looking forward to seeing downward trend on the scale and I'm not sure that will happen now. I have been weighing daily to see if I can see some sort of trend, but I think I'm going to have to make it every other day or more because it's as if I see myself lose weight and then want to celebrate with food (self sabotage?). I'm feeling a bit bad about myself for going out to dinner so early in this new woe because I'm trying to learn good habits (more sabotage?). I do know that I was completely satisfied after my quesdilla 1/2 and then I pushed it with the second half of hubby's wedge. I also know that in the past, I would have gotten the meal that was covered in a cream sauce and I didn't do that. I also know that normally (or maybe I should say in the past) I can keep eating well past the point where dh stops. I didn't do that this time because I noticed I was feeling full. I also think that I ate less in general this time. I'm not really comfortable with going out to eat because I don't know all the point values and I'm changing what I choose, but simply assigning some arbitrary number to something that I don't know the nutritional information on is difficult for me. I don't want to give up going out to dinner though because it's a break that I need from cooking and I like to get out every now and again for some variety. Suggestions? This post got long on me. Thanks for sticking through it. Julie |
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Awwwww, sorry. I really wasn't slamming your chocolate cake - but I couldn't come
up with anything else that might be that heavily caloric laden. If I remember correctly, didn't we figure that one slice had something like a gazillion calories? G It definitely did sound wonderful, and I think I may have the recipe stored in the computer. Maybe not, I've scoured through the mastercook program and can't find it ... then again, maybe it has a tricky name? Joyce On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 06:58:46 -0800, Fred wrote: Hey, other than slamming my chocolate cakes (g), you make excellent points. Eating out is part of life and finding reasonable foods on those excursions becomes part of the long term solution On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 01:18:52 -0600, Joyce wrote: Hey Julie, quit beating yourself up, okay? grin Going out is part of life, enjoying it is part of life. You want to make ww part of life, and ww allows you to go out and enjoy the moment. Get back on track at the next opportunity. Make ammends for it the next few days by cutting back on other items. We all do it all the time, it works out in the end. While your choice of what you had out may have been better (I tend to avoid items with cheese), cutting back on the quantity you ate is definitely a step in the right direction. Salsa is very low in points, probably no damage there. Chips aren't great, but also not too bad if you keep the quantity under control. I love the tostado chips, are my downfall whenever we go out. So I go ahead and eat them, enjoy the splurge, and make up for it later in the week. No guilt trips, no looking back, only look ahead. Try and stay off the scale for a few days, any increase you will see will more than likely just be salt. Think of it this way ... it takes 3500 excess calories to equal 1 pound of fat. Do you honestly think you ate 3500 calories in that dinner? NO! While it may be possible to do that in a week, it is pretty difficult to accomplish in one meal (unless you are eating Fred's killer chocolate cake). I will admit that in the beginning, I also had a tough time going out to eat - but I still did it. It became easier down the road. I started by making different choices ... trying the fish at our fav mexican place (Cozymel's) and finding it was absolutely wonderful. Ordering sauces on the side, substituting grilled veggies for rice/beans - or asking for unwanted items to be eliminated from the plate entirely. If I don't see them I won't eat them. Now my tastes have really changed and I rarely think about what I am ordering. The waitress knows me so well, will automatically tell me what their seafood of the day is and knows the rest of the order. LOL Hang in there. With each trip out it does become a bit easier. If in doubt, check out www.dwlz.com , the restaurant section ... tons of restaurant listings with points. Have somewhat of an idea in your head before you go, and try to stick to it. I think you're doing great. Joyce On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 22:16:36 -0600, "skiur" wrote: I'm not sure if I'm sabotaging myself or not. Yesterday I had a lower points sort of day because I wasn't as hungry yesterday. This morning I woke up hungry, had some fruit, skipped the morning snack because it was too busy at work, had my lunch, saved a portion for later and had an afternoon snack on top of that (12 points). When I came home I was ravenous. I had a bag of ceasar salad with a little dressing (1oz according to the scale), 2 crab stix, and a few mini merangues. (Maybe 4 points) When dh came home, we went out to dinner to a Mexican-style place, Chevy's. I had 3 containers of salsa (3 points) and the chips that go with it-I take huge scoops of salsa so I could finish a container with 5-6 chips (no idea how many points). Then or food came and I had 1/2 of one of my Napa quesedilla's (sp?) and a wedge of dh's fiery. I checked the Chevy's site and dwlz.com and neither his or my dinners were on there so I don't really know what to count dinner as. I can't imagine that the dinner portion that I ate had substantial points because it was so little and there was very little cheese, no guac or sour cream on either, but on the other hand we were out to dinner, it tasted good-had to be loaded with points right? I was looking forward to seeing downward trend on the scale and I'm not sure that will happen now. I have been weighing daily to see if I can see some sort of trend, but I think I'm going to have to make it every other day or more because it's as if I see myself lose weight and then want to celebrate with food (self sabotage?). I'm feeling a bit bad about myself for going out to dinner so early in this new woe because I'm trying to learn good habits (more sabotage?). I do know that I was completely satisfied after my quesdilla 1/2 and then I pushed it with the second half of hubby's wedge. I also know that in the past, I would have gotten the meal that was covered in a cream sauce and I didn't do that. I also know that normally (or maybe I should say in the past) I can keep eating well past the point where dh stops. I didn't do that this time because I noticed I was feeling full. I also think that I ate less in general this time. I'm not really comfortable with going out to eat because I don't know all the point values and I'm changing what I choose, but simply assigning some arbitrary number to something that I don't know the nutritional information on is difficult for me. I don't want to give up going out to dinner though because it's a break that I need from cooking and I like to get out every now and again for some variety. Suggestions? This post got long on me. Thanks for sticking through it. Julie |
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I recall thinking it was a black hole of points, Lee
Joyce wrote in message ... Awwwww, sorry. I really wasn't slamming your chocolate cake - but I couldn't come up with anything else that might be that heavily caloric laden. If I remember correctly, didn't we figure that one slice had something like a gazillion calories? G It definitely did sound wonderful, and I think I may have the recipe stored in the computer. Maybe not, I've scoured through the mastercook program and can't find it ... then again, maybe it has a tricky name? Joyce On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 06:58:46 -0800, Fred wrote: Hey, other than slamming my chocolate cakes (g), you make excellent points. Eating out is part of life and finding reasonable foods on those excursions becomes part of the long term solution On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 01:18:52 -0600, Joyce wrote: Hey Julie, quit beating yourself up, okay? grin Going out is part of life, enjoying it is part of life. You want to make ww part of life, and ww allows you to go out and enjoy the moment. Get back on track at the next opportunity. Make ammends for it the next few days by cutting back on other items. We all do it all the time, it works out in the end. While your choice of what you had out may have been better (I tend to avoid items with cheese), cutting back on the quantity you ate is definitely a step in the right direction. Salsa is very low in points, probably no damage there. Chips aren't great, but also not too bad if you keep the quantity under control. I love the tostado chips, are my downfall whenever we go out. So I go ahead and eat them, enjoy the splurge, and make up for it later in the week. No guilt trips, no looking back, only look ahead. Try and stay off the scale for a few days, any increase you will see will more than likely just be salt. Think of it this way ... it takes 3500 excess calories to equal 1 pound of fat. Do you honestly think you ate 3500 calories in that dinner? NO! While it may be possible to do that in a week, it is pretty difficult to accomplish in one meal (unless you are eating Fred's killer chocolate cake). I will admit that in the beginning, I also had a tough time going out to eat - but I still did it. It became easier down the road. I started by making different choices ... trying the fish at our fav mexican place (Cozymel's) and finding it was absolutely wonderful. Ordering sauces on the side, substituting grilled veggies for rice/beans - or asking for unwanted items to be eliminated from the plate entirely. If I don't see them I won't eat them. Now my tastes have really changed and I rarely think about what I am ordering. The waitress knows me so well, will automatically tell me what their seafood of the day is and knows the rest of the order. LOL Hang in there. With each trip out it does become a bit easier. If in doubt, check out www.dwlz.com , the restaurant section ... tons of restaurant listings with points. Have somewhat of an idea in your head before you go, and try to stick to it. I think you're doing great. Joyce On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 22:16:36 -0600, "skiur" wrote: I'm not sure if I'm sabotaging myself or not. Yesterday I had a lower points sort of day because I wasn't as hungry yesterday. This morning I woke up hungry, had some fruit, skipped the morning snack because it was too busy at work, had my lunch, saved a portion for later and had an afternoon snack on top of that (12 points). When I came home I was ravenous. I had a bag of ceasar salad with a little dressing (1oz according to the scale), 2 crab stix, and a few mini merangues. (Maybe 4 points) When dh came home, we went out to dinner to a Mexican-style place, Chevy's. I had 3 containers of salsa (3 points) and the chips that go with it-I take huge scoops of salsa so I could finish a container with 5-6 chips (no idea how many points). Then or food came and I had 1/2 of one of my Napa quesedilla's (sp?) and a wedge of dh's fiery. I checked the Chevy's site and dwlz.com and neither his or my dinners were on there so I don't really know what to count dinner as. I can't imagine that the dinner portion that I ate had substantial points because it was so little and there was very little cheese, no guac or sour cream on either, but on the other hand we were out to dinner, it tasted good-had to be loaded with points right? I was looking forward to seeing downward trend on the scale and I'm not sure that will happen now. I have been weighing daily to see if I can see some sort of trend, but I think I'm going to have to make it every other day or more because it's as if I see myself lose weight and then want to celebrate with food (self sabotage?). I'm feeling a bit bad about myself for going out to dinner so early in this new woe because I'm trying to learn good habits (more sabotage?). I do know that I was completely satisfied after my quesdilla 1/2 and then I pushed it with the second half of hubby's wedge. I also know that in the past, I would have gotten the meal that was covered in a cream sauce and I didn't do that. I also know that normally (or maybe I should say in the past) I can keep eating well past the point where dh stops. I didn't do that this time because I noticed I was feeling full. I also think that I ate less in general this time. I'm not really comfortable with going out to eat because I don't know all the point values and I'm changing what I choose, but simply assigning some arbitrary number to something that I don't know the nutritional information on is difficult for me. I don't want to give up going out to dinner though because it's a break that I need from cooking and I like to get out every now and again for some variety. Suggestions? This post got long on me. Thanks for sticking through it. Julie |
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