Watch this one burn......

CyberDroog wrote:

On 7 Apr 2007 06:36:13 -0700, "bob&carole"
wrote:



On Apr 7, 8:24?am, CyberDroog wrote:


On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 17:48:36 -0400, 4s00th wrote:


On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 10:58:56 -0500, Ivan Marsh
wrote:


On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 05:54:52 -0700, bobandcarole wrote:


On Apr 6, 4:05?am, CyberDroog wrote:


WRONG.


ut I ain't about to belabour the point with some rabid fundie


who doesn't know the difference between homosexuality and pedophilia


And I ain't about to belabour the point with some Cyber k00k with
repressed pedophilic tendencies.


...and, therefore, a homosexual... even if you only molest girls.


forgive bo0by&crawler -- he assumes that anyone who disagrees with his
decrees is either gay, a pedophile, a heathen or some combination of
the above.


In these toilets it's a very good possibility


Or possibly a "wetback" -- he doesn't like them too much


either.


Know any beaner jokes?


Oh, and "****s!" You'd think a good heterosexual christian


like him would have more reverence for ****s!


We all know one when we see one...****.



You ****ed up the quoting again. Get a clue.

Oh, and thanks for giving us all an illustration of what kind of person
Jesus really is. He hates Mexicans, he calls women ****s, etc. I forget,
what is the Aramaic word for ****?



al-Qunta.

On Apr 7, 1:09?pm, Noon Cat Nick
wrote:
CyberDroog wrote:
On 7 Apr 2007 06:36:13 -0700, "bob&carole"
wrote:

On Apr 7, 8:24?am, CyberDroog wrote:

On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 17:48:36 -0400, 4s00th wrote:

On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 10:58:56 -0500, Ivan Marsh
wrote:

On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 05:54:52 -0700, bobandcarole wrote:

On Apr 6, 4:05?am, CyberDroog wrote:

WRONG.

ut I ain't about to belabour the point with some rabid fundie

who doesn't know the difference between homosexuality and pedophilia

And I ain't about to belabour the point with some Cyber k00k with
repressed pedophilic tendencies.

...and, therefore, a homosexual... even if you only molest girls.

forgive bo0by&crawler -- he assumes that anyone who disagrees with his
decrees is either gay, a pedophile, a heathen or some combination of
the above.

In these toilets it's a very good possibility

Or possibly a "wetback" -- he doesn't like them too much

either.

Know any beaner jokes?

Oh, and "****s!" You'd think a good heterosexual christian

like him would have more reverence for ****s!

We all know one when we see one...****.

You ****ed up the quoting again. Get a clue.

Oh, and thanks for giving us all an illustration of what kind of person
Jesus really is. He hates Mexicans, he calls women ****s, etc. I forget,
what is the Aramaic word for ****?

al-Qunta.

The Arabic word for pedophile is "Allah"

On Apr 7, 5:40?pm, CyberDroog wrote:
On 7 Apr 2007 12:34:48 -0700, "bobandcarole"
wrote:

The Arabic word for pedophile is "Allah"

The English word for moron is "Christian".

Allah is a kiddie****er God as is his worthless
**** boy muhammad:


From the Quran:




Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64: Sahih Bukhari Aisha: that the Prophet
married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage
when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine
years (i.e. till his death).


The intervals between prayers are used for quick stands "I used to
wash the traces of Janaba (semen) from the clothes of the Prophet and
he used to go for prayers while traces of water were still on it."



From Khomeini's book, "Tahrirolvasyleh", fourth volume, Darol Elm, Gom,


Iran,
1990 : A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a
baby.
However he should not
penetrate, sodomising the child is OK. If the man penetrates and
damages the child then he
should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl,
however does not count as
one of his four permanent wives. The man will not be eligible to
marry
the girls sister.
[...] It is better for a girl to marry in such a time when she would
begin menstruation at
her husband's house rather than her father's home. Any father
marrying
his daughter so young
will have a permanent place in heaven. How it all began ( a long time
ago in the isolated
deserts of Arabia) : Already, when Aisha (the daughter of Abu Bakr,
Mohammad's closest friend
and unquestioning ally) was about 4-5 years old Muhammad started
dreaming of a union with her
[Ref: SAHIH BUKHARI, 5:235] and he wasted no time in realizing his
dreams, inspite of the
fact that object of his dreams was a mere child.Perhaps you want to
assume that it is
"normal" for a 50+ year old man to dream of marrying a 4-5 old child,
and then ACTUALLY ask
for her hand at 6?

Is it normal for an oversexed old man (Muhammad had over 9 wives and
concubines) to dream of a union
with a 4-5 year old girl?


Muhammad ( SAW ) was basically oversexed, his sexual relationship
with
Aisha is a special case,
which fits his strong need for a larger latitude to satisfy his
sexual
urge, as is witnessed by:


"The Prophet used to visit all his wives in a round, during the day
and
night and they were eleven
in number." I asked Anas, "Had the Prophet the strength for it?" Anas
replied, "We used to say that
the Prophet was given the strength of thirty (men)." And Sa'id said
on
the authority of Qatada that
Anas had told him about nine wives only (not eleven)." [Bukhari.
1:268]


When she was 6, Muhammad asked Abu Bakr, Aisha's father, for her
hand.
Abu Bakr thought it was
improper, because, as he said "I am your brother"; Muhammad brushed
aside Abu Bakr's reservation by
saying that it was perfectly lawful for him to marry Aisha [ Ref:
SAHIH
BUKHAR I7:18].


What happened to " there is no compulsion in matters of religion ?"
Anyway what compulsion did
Muhhammad need being a prophet his word was law, he restricted men to
only four wives when he
himself had more than four, that was a convenient exemption for
Muhhammad.


So, Aisha was betrothed to Muhammad, and 3 years later, i.e. when
Aisha
was 9, the marriage was
consumed. And Muhammad was 53 then [SAHIH BUKHARI
1991:236,7:64,7:65,7:88] .


The 3 year waiting period probably had to do with the fact that at
that
time Aisha had contracted
some disease, whereby she, temporarily lost her hair. Aisha was then
socially and psychologically
still a child as is evidenced by the fact that she was still given to
her toys, she was unaware of
what was happening around her, and her playmates behave as would the
children at present times
[Sahih Bukhari 8:151,5:234].


Aisha became Muhammad's favourite wife. And the sexuality in the
relationship was predominant [
SAHIH BUKHARI .1.270, 3:36, 7:6, 3:148, 3:149, 3:150, 7:142, IbnSa'd
1pg165 ]. Later, Aisha was to
be called the "mother of believers". If you are wandering, yes, the
relationship was pedophilic.
When did the sexual relations between Prophet Mohammad and his child
bride begin?


Unfortunately we do not have any video recordings of such events.
Neither can we expect that there
would be any explicit statements regarding this. In any case it is
certain that she had NOT reached
puberty when she moved into Muhammad's house, which in itself,
contrary
to the prevailing social
norms, is a tacit implication that he may indulge in whatever
fantasies
he may have had when he
asked for Aisha's hand. And Muhammad did have fantasies.


Volume 8, Book 73, Number 151: Narrated 'Aisha: I used to play with
the
dolls in the presence of
the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When
Allah's Apostle used to enter (my
dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, BUT the Prophet would
call them to join and play
with me. (The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden,
but it was allowed for
'Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the
age
of puberty.) (Fateh-al-Bari
page 143, Vol.13)


It is, however, very unlikely that Muhammad would have waited for the
onset of the menses; or at
most it could have been just after the 1st drops. The evidence is
necessarily indirect.


# His strong desire to "graze of the (tree) of which nothing has been
eaten
before", as his other wives had not been virgins.


# Menses or fasting do not reduce Muhammad's desire and potency for
sex. His
nightly rounds to his wives(lastly 12-13) did require more than
average
potency.


# New additions to his harem lead to intensive sexual activity, e.g.
arrival of
Maria lead to increased, initial spurt of sexual activity to the
neglect of others .


# The intervals between prayers are used for quick stands "I used to
wash the
traces of Janaba (semen) from the clothes of the Prophet and he used
to
go for prayers while traces
of water were still on it."


# Other wives try to please Muhammad by sacrificing their turns in
favor of
Aisha.


# During his last fatal illness he cries: "Where will I be tomorrow?
Where will
I be tomorrow?", seeking Aisha's turn.


Prophet Say: Marry Young Virgins Volume 7, Book 62, Number 17:
Narrated
Jabir bin 'Abdullah: When I
got married, Allah's Apostle said to me, "What type of lady have you
married?" I replied, "I have
married a matron' He said, "Why, don't you have a liking for the
young
virgins and for fondling
them?" Jabir also said: Allah's Apostle said, "Why didn't you marry a
young girl so that you might
play with her and she with you?'


Silent Children : Volume 7, Book 62, Number 67: Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet said, "A matron
should not be given in marriage except after consulting her; and a
virgin should not be given in
marriage except after her permission." The people asked, "O Allah's
Apostle! How can we know her
permission?" He said, "Her silence (indicates her permission)."


Where sex is akin to a crime, silence is admission of your guilt.
What
a corruption of "fitrah" (
human nature).


What religion condones the destruction of childhood? What are we who
daily avow our undying love for
Allah to do against a system that ruthlessly oppresses its youngest
and
brightest ?


What was Aisha's age? I have heard other figures ... (A question also
known as: How many of your own
sources will you deny ? ) All the relevant sources (Bukhari, Ibn
Hisham, Tabari, Ibn al-Athir, Ibn
Sa'd, Ibn Hanbal, etc.) maintain that Aisha was bethroted to Mohammed
when she was 6, and the
marraige was consummated 3 years later.


'Mahommad - The Word of Allah' written by Anne-Marie Delcambre.
(Anne-Marie Delcambre has a
doctorate in 'Islamology', and taught Islamic Civilisation at the
Saint
Joseph University of
Beyrouth in Lebanon). On page 69, it says that he was married to her
when she was 9 years old.


Dates commonly accepted by scholars: Birth Muhammad(570), birth
Aisha(614 or
1992). Bethrothal(620 or 621), Consummation of marriage(623 or 624).
In
particular the
"consummation" of marriage is said to have taken place after the
hidjra
in Shawwal 1 or 2.
Between 621 and 623 Asiha is said to have contracted a disease
whereby
she temporarily lost her
hair. (Ref 1)


She could not have been more than 10 years when she went to live in
Muhammad's house. The fact that
she took her toys with her to her new home indicates that she was
psychologically and socially still
a child. And the fact that she was allowed to play with DOLLS
indicates
that she had NOT reached
puberty by this time. ("The playing with the dolls and similar images
was(is) forbidden, but it was
allowed for Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet
reached the age of puberty."Fateh-al-
Bari page 143, Vol.13). Besides, there is also Aisha's own statement
which implies that she had NOT
reached puberty when she moved into Muhammad's house[Sahih Bukhari
7.163]. I am sure she would have
been able to recount accurately as to when and where she got her
first
menses. Most girls do
remember such events rather accurately. (Refs 2)


What is "sick" is that Muhammad had started to dream of a union with
Aisha already when she was 4-5
years old: "You were shown to me twice (in my dream) before I married
you...(and) I said (to
myself), 'If this is from Allah, then it must happen." He was to use
a
similar tactic when he wanted
to marry his step son's wife. A tactic which Aisha later came to
understand as fraud, as in: "Aisha
said: O Allah's Apostle! I do not see, but, that your Lord hurries in
pleasing you." (Refs 2)


Muhammad wasted no time in realizing what he had been dreaming.
Already
when Aisha was 6 "The
Prophet asked Abu Bakr for 'Aisha's hand in marriage. Abu Bakr said
"But I am your brother." The
Prophet said, "You are my brother in Allah's religion and His Book,
but
she (Aisha) is lawful for me
to marry." Here it does not seem that Abu Bakr consented to the
marriage wholeheartedly.


REFERENCES (1) Les femmes du Prophete Prof.Magali Morsi, Professor of
History, University of
Muhammed V, Rabat, Morocco.
(1993) Shahih Bukhari: [1.229] [1.230] [1.231] [1.232] [1.233]
[1.258]
[1.263]
[1993

The radical homosexual agenda seeks to silence every dissenting voice
of truth in our society, and as long as they continue to recruit
naive
politicians, they threaten the very "civil liberties" they pretend to
protect. Their lust for public legitimacy and moral acceptance (among
other things) is unquenchable. "Hate-crimes" laws are nothing more
than calculated steps toward "speech codes" to silence opposition
toward sexual perversion and punish Christians, in particular, for
publicly endorsing traditional family values.


http://www.siouxcityjournal.com/arti...s_opinion/lett...


One for the good guys!


The Supreme Court does Anita Bryant proud!


Monday, Apr 9, 2007
Mark Follman


Florida's specific statute preventing homosexual men and women from
becoming adoptive parents, on the books since 1977, isn't likely to
go
away anytime soon; the U.S. Supreme Court refused on Monday to hear a
challenge to the law.


The Florida statute was enacted in 1977, in the midst of an anti-gay
campaign led by the singer and Florida orange juice pitch-person
Anita
Bryant. Curtis Peterson, the state senator who sponsored the measure,
said that the legislation's message to the gay community was "we're
really tired of you" and "we wish you'd go back into the closet."

On Apr 2, 4:26�pm, Larry Kessler wb8jel @ arrl.net wrote:
"bob&carole" wrote:
Apparently, Rep. Mark Foley is homosexual pedophile. And like many
homosexual men, he likes young teen boys. We should pray for him that
he gets a handle on this problem and refrains from harming any more
kids.

The former Congressional page whom Foley contacted was hardly a "kid"
-- he was 16.

Meanwhile, we need to wake up. The fact that this is typical
behavior for homosexuals doesn't stop us from continuing to elevate
such folks to positions where they gain access to our kids.

This is NOT "typical behavior for homosexuals." *If it were, it
wouldn't be news.

It is well known that queer men will molest a boy quicker than a
straight man will molest a girl.

On Apr 23, 1:01?am, "Wonderer" wrote:
"bobandcarole," wrote in message

oups.com...
On Apr 2, 4:26?pm, Larry Kessler wb8jel @ arrl.net wrote:

"bob&carole" wrote:
Apparently, Rep. Mark Foley is homosexual pedophile. And like many
homosexual men, he likes young teen boys. We should pray for him that
he gets a handle on this problem and refrains from harming any more
kids.

The former Congressional page whom Foley contacted was hardly a "kid"
-- he was 16.

Meanwhile, we need to wake up. The fact that this is typical
behavior for homosexuals doesn't stop us from continuing to elevate
such folks to positions where they gain access to our kids.

This is NOT "typical behavior for homosexuals." If it were, it
wouldn't be news.

It is well known that queer men will molest a boy quicker than a
straight man will molest a girl.

are you speaking from first hand experience, bob

As you well know, I'm not a pedophile.
But YOU are....

On Apr 24, 2:00?am, "Wonderer" wrote:
"YouKidding?" wrote in message

.. .





In article ,
"Wonderer" wrote:

"bobandcarole," wrote in message
groups.com...
On Apr 2, 4:26?pm, Larry Kessler wb8jel @ arrl.net wrote:
"bob&carole" wrote:
Apparently, Rep. Mark Foley is homosexual pedophile. And like many
homosexual men, he likes young teen boys. We should pray for him that
he gets a handle on this problem and refrains from harming any more
kids.

The former Congressional page whom Foley contacted was hardly a "kid"
-- he was 16.

Meanwhile, we need to wake up. The fact that this is typical
behavior for homosexuals doesn't stop us from continuing to elevate
such folks to positions where they gain access to our kids.

This is NOT "typical behavior for homosexuals." If it were, it
wouldn't be news.

It is well known that queer men will molest a boy quicker than a
straight man will molest a girl.

are you speaking from first hand experience, bob

LOL, want some Kool-Aid? I just know you pulled that out of your ass.
Oh, no you couldn't have, your head is up there.

say's the preschooler, looking in the mirror

Says the kiddie****er that posts pro pedophile
garbage in alt.support.boy-lovers

Rhiannon heeft uiteengezet op 5-4-2007 :
"bob&carole" wrote in message
oups.com...
Apparently, Rep. Mark Foley is homosexual pedophile. And like many
homosexual men, he likes young teen boys. We should pray for him that
he gets a
handle on this problem and refrains from harming any more kids.
Meanwhile, we need to wake up. The fact that this is typical
behavior for homosexuals doesn't stop us from continuing to elevate
such
folks to positions where they gain access to our kids.

It isn't typical behaviour of homosexual's, it's typical behaviour of
pedophiles. BIG difference.

**** off! Stop dismantling the friendly nature of our peacefull
newsgroup, ****ing morons!

--
Het leven begint op het moment dat je je niets meer aantrekt van wat
andere mensen van je denken.

On Apr 23, 11:25�pm, "YouKidding?" wrote:
In article ,





*"Wonderer" wrote:
"bobandcarole," wrote in message
roups.com...
On Apr 2, 4:26?pm, Larry Kessler wb8jel @ arrl.net wrote:
"bob&carole" wrote:
Apparently, Rep. Mark Foley is homosexual pedophile. And like many
homosexual men, he likes young teen boys. We should pray for him that
he gets a handle on this problem and refrains from harming any more
kids.

The former Congressional page whom Foley contacted was hardly a "kid"
-- he was 16.

Meanwhile, we need to wake up. The fact that this is typical
behavior for homosexuals doesn't stop us from continuing to elevate
such folks to positions where they gain access to our kids.

This is NOT "typical behavior for homosexuals." If it were, it
wouldn't be news.

It is well known that queer men will molest a boy quicker than a
straight man will molest a girl.

are you speaking from first hand experience, bob

LOL, want some Kool-Aid? I just know you pulled that out of your ass.
Oh, no you couldn't have, your head is up there

WTF????