How to get abs

Bingo wrote:
:: Hugh Beyer wrote in
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::: Bingo wrote in
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:::: Hugh Beyer wrote in
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::::: 3x /week (that is, 3xweek is doesn't give
::::: you half again the gains of 2x week).
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:::: This is what I was referring to, and only as a footnote to the
:::: main point. And you weren't involved in the discussion, so to
:::: call me a moron only means that you, too. are an ASSHOLE.
:::
::: You poor, misunderstood darling, what you said was "It's better
::: to work out twice a week than three times." No qualifiers at
::: all. And when SJ suggested some qualifiers, you posted a broken
::: link. And I didn't call you an ASSHOLE, though if you wish to
::: take that name on yourself, be my guest.
:::
:::
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:::: And no, *I* am not the pone defeationg myself.
:::
::: Quick, somebody, get the meds, he's going non-linear.
:::
::: Hugh
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:::
:::
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:: You called me a moron when weren't even in the discussion.
::
::: Quick, somebody, get the meds, he's going non-linear.
::
:: And comments like this prove it.

Prove what, that you're a moron?

Dally wrote:

Bingo whined:

I thought was a good group, but the assholes just keep
popping up!

Have you happened to notice that you are posting to two
separate groups?
One of them has SUPPORT in the name and is trying to help
you.

The other one is MFW and you have been WARNED to stay out of
there. If you keep posting there you're going to have to
deal with the consequences, and I don't see the point in
exposing you to that much ridicule. Seriously. Quit
cross-posting to MFW and you'll be much happier.

And so will we.

--
-Wayne
be happier, that is

Bingo wrote:

Are you feeling better today? Ready to try again?

You've managed to twist
everything I say and then employed selective memory to make it look
like I'm the attacker.

We flip around what you say to look at it from a different perspective
in the hopes that you can follow along and gain some insight.

No one is attacking you. Well, maybe some of the guys on MFW but I've
dropped that newsgroup from this post and you should stay out of there
unless you like getting called names.

I said that I was having trouble losing pounds.
You said that I wasn't working hard enough.
I pointed out how hard I was working

Time spent working does not equal intensity of work nor does it signify
load. You keep talking about one set of 8-12 reps and by definition
that isn't a heavy load. No one is attacking you or twisting your
words, we're hearing what you say and we still disagree with you.

You shifted gears to tell me that I should do it your way
because, in spite of training using the techniques of one the best
experts in the country who happens to run the facility I use,
apparently you know better.

Stop there. Hold that thought. Could it possibly be true? Open your
mind up for a moment: is it even VAGUELY possible that Sarah Jane MIGHT
know better?

Then you told me I took too long because I wasn't using free
weights and that I was in "poor condition" and using "light
weights" (150-200lb is apparently light on your planet)

Your muscles can get quite conditioned to the regular load you put on
them. This will effectively halt your progress. Ask your "Expert" if
that isn't true. Look up "strategic deconditioning" for some
interesting perspective on this.

Another great site is: http://www.stumptuous.com/weights.html and look
under "Training" to "the basics of a routine". Read everything there.
Ask questions if you don't understand something.

I gave you real references, and despite a link that was fairly easy
to figure out, that might lead to actual truth, so you didn't try.

Actually, your didn't work the first time and crashed my browser the
second time. But the fitness magazine you sent us to was a joke. You
*do* understand the difference between an article written for management
and peer-reviewed science, don't you? Please?

I placed your "other" ID in a killfile, so you changed ID's,
painted me as the "aggressor" and now you have all your little
clique pals piling on, point out typo's and making big issues
points out of minor points.

Bingo, get some perspective here. She didn't morph to taunt you (I
don't think, and even if she did it's no biggy, since she WASN'T
taunting you). She has other IDs, too that she regularly uses. She's
not particularly evil (well, a little bit) and she's not stupid (not
even a little bit) so she doesn't merit your killfile unless you
absolutely DON'T want your fallacies challenged.

In which case YOU merit a killfile. (In fact, if you do, please let me
know because I've spent too much time trying to help you here and I'm
happy to stop now if you insist on ignoring it.)

As for piling on the typos, that was a really funny one. I still don't
even know what you were trying to say. Can't you laugh at yourself even
a little?

Have I missed anything here? I look for knowledge from reputable
source, not people who think their crap is perfume. I posted
references, you didn't. You haven't shown yourself to be reputable
or knowledgable. And you chosen to berate me on every point with
nothing to back it up.

I don't even know what to do with this paragraph. I'm trying to see
this from your point of view, but I keep getting blocked by the part
where she ISN'T wrong, she IS a reputable source, she DID post
references, you DIDN'T cite sources (but rather magazine articles). You
need some insight and I have never known how to convey that.

I'm not interested in continuing this discussion. I'll relearn and
admit when I wrong. (See the peanut butter thread.) But I have
zero tolerance for know-it-alls.

She's not a know-it-all, and neither am I, we just know more than you do
on this issue.

Suddenly, when I got to this point, I realized I answered this last
night when I was reading a different group. My apologies for repeating
myself. There are a few low-cal/exercise-too-much still-fat guys
roaming the group at the moment and I think I'm confusing people in my
head. It happens sometimes.

Dally

Dally wrote in
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Your "cite" was the guy who's in charge of keeping the line
moving in the Nautilus center at your gym. He's wrong. You're
wrong, too.

He's in charge of the whole facilty, not the gym and perhaps you
missed his credentials and the 12 books he's published and
accolades he's received in his field of study. If you think he's
"wrong" then you're JUST PLAIN STUPID.


One set of 12 Nautilus done in a circuit will
*preserve* strength, but it won't give you either the
fat-burning effect or the hypertrophy (and hence, metabolism
increase) that intense free-weights will give you.

Read my response to Dally. Heavy free weights are not an
option with my back.

I don't believe this, by the way. Why do you? You've also
mentioned a knee injury, as I recall, yet the main way to
strengthen a knee is to strengthen the quads and squats are the
best way to do that. No one said you have to use weights
heavier than you can control in good form.
(Or were you thinking of Smith machine squats? Those are bad
for your
back, stay away from those.) But why not hack squats or
dumbbell squats with a swiss ball?

What's in it for you to avoid doing free weights? Why not push
past your comfort zone to see if maybe we're right about the
benefits?

Dally

Dally wrote in
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I'm right and you are both stupid. Im not wasting any more time
with either of you. I did nautilus 30 years ago and lost 55 pounds
in six months.

So tell, Knowitall Twins, you do YOUR credentials stack up:

Wayne L. Westcott, Ph.D., C.S.C.S, is Fitness Research Director at
the South Shore YMCA in Quincy, MA. He is strength training
consultant for numerous national organizations, such as the
American Council on Exercise, the American Senior Fitness
Association, and the National Youth Sports Safety Foundation, and
editorial advisor for many publications, including Prevention,
Shape, and Club Industry magazines. He is also author of several
fitness books including the new releases, Building Strength and
Stamina, Strength Training Past 50, Strength Training for Seniors,
Complete Conditioning for Golf, and Strength and Power for Young
Athletes. Dr. Westcott was recently honored with the Lifetime
Achievement Award from the International Association of Fitness
Professionals, the Healthy American Fitness Leader Award from the
President’s Council on Physical Fitness and Sports, and the
Roberts-Gulick Award from the YMCA Association of Professional
Directors, the Lifetime Achievement Award from the Governor’s
Committee on Physical Fitness and Sports, and the NOVA 7 Exercise
Program Award from Fitness Management Magazine.

You needn';t bother to answer, but I'm sure all this irrevivent to
your superior intellect.

The only thing I'm wrong about is giving you ANY creditibility in
the firt place.

Just go away now.

"JC Der Koenig" wrote in news:9DHQb.10176
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Are your fingers too fat to fit the keyboard?


Your mother have any children that lived?

Dally wrote in
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Bingo wrote:

Dally wrote in
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Bingo, my dear, drop MFW from your posts and you'll be much
happier. You're still arguing with me that you need to run my
info by a nutritionist. You're not ready for MFW.

The nutrionist was a couple of years ago.

Actually, it was this morning that you said you doubted my
advice and wanted to run it past a nutritionist.

ANd I have idea what mfw means.

You cross-posted the previous post (and several others) to that
group. It's full of the REAL physiology researchers and
scientists and serious weight-lifters who follow the science.
They don't suffer fools easily ans you're being foolish in your
newbie-ness. ASD (alt.support.diet) will be kinder to you as
you learn.

Dally



Again....

Wayne L. Westcott, Ph.D., C.S.C.S, is Fitness Research Director at
the South Shore YMCA in Quincy, MA. He is strength training
consultant for numerous national organizations, such as the
American Council on Exercise, the American Senior Fitness
Association, and the National Youth Sports Safety Foundation, and
editorial advisor for many publications, including Prevention,
Shape, and Club Industry magazines. He is also author of several
fitness books including the new releases, Building Strength and
Stamina, Strength Training Past 50, Strength Training for Seniors,
Complete Conditioning for Golf, and Strength and Power for Young
Athletes. Dr. Westcott was recently honored with the Lifetime
Achievement Award from the International Association of Fitness
Professionals, the Healthy American Fitness Leader Award from the
President’s Council on Physical Fitness and Sports, and the
Roberts-Gulick Award from the YMCA Association of Professional
Directors, the Lifetime Achievement Award from the Governor’s
Committee on Physical Fitness and Sports, and the NOVA 7 Exercise
Program Award from Fitness Management Magazine.

"DRS" wrote in
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Bingo wrote in message

Dally wrote in

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Bingo, my dear, drop MFW from your posts and you'll be much
happier. You're still arguing with me that you need to run my
info by a nutritionist. You're not ready for MFW.

And no, *I* am not the pone defeationg myself.

Uh, sure, if you say so.

Dally

The nutrionist was a couple of years ago. ANd I have idea what
mfw means.

Jesus wept. She explained it to you several times and you still
don't get it. It's not rocket science.


Jesus is dead. Please join him.

"Roger Zoul" wrote in news:10178jgclceu8a4
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Bingo wrote:
:: Hugh Beyer wrote in
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::: Bingo wrote in
::: news:Xns947A9DA5648AFbillmicrosoftcom@ 216.148.227.77:
:::
:::: Hugh Beyer wrote in
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::::
::::: 3x /week (that is, 3xweek is doesn't give
::::: you half again the gains of 2x week).
:::::
::::
:::: This is what I was referring to, and only as a footnote to
the
:::: main point. And you weren't involved in the discussion, so
to
:::: call me a moron only means that you, too. are an ASSHOLE.
:::
::: You poor, misunderstood darling, what you said was "It's
better
::: to work out twice a week than three times." No qualifiers at
::: all. And when SJ suggested some qualifiers, you posted a
broken
::: link. And I didn't call you an ASSHOLE, though if you wish to
::: take that name on yourself, be my guest.
:::
:::
::::
:::: And no, *I* am not the pone defeationg myself.
:::
::: Quick, somebody, get the meds, he's going non-linear.
:::
::: Hugh
:::
:::
:::
::
:: You called me a moron when weren't even in the discussion.
::
::: Quick, somebody, get the meds, he's going non-linear.
::
:: And comments like this prove it.

Prove what, that you're a moron?




Ooh that was good!! "I know you are but what am I" Go suck more
cocks, turd.

"OceanView" wrote
"JC Der Koenig" wrote

Are your fingers too fat to fit the keyboard?

Your mother have any children that lived?

You are SO ugly, when you were born, the doctor slapped your mother!

Your mama is SO fat, when she sits around the house, she sits AROUND
the house!

Your village called. They want their idiot back.

OK. Next...

David