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Old December 22nd, 2006, 09:20 PM posted to alt.support.diet
Cyn
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I'm one of them people that needs to be told what to do and what exactly not to do on pretty much anything I do.
I need to follow a plan.. something I can print and follow to the T.. I have to follow rules or else I fail miserably. I need
a list of to do's and don't do's so that I can be successful...

Please help me... I have to lose 65 lbs and want to be at 130 by this time next year. (which is a realistic goal). But I have to be told, step by step, what to do. I need grocery lists and a designated work out plan formulated by someone other than me.

I know, it sounds crazy.. but unless I have rules to follow I won't follow them...

Can anyone out there my savior? My Knight or princess in shining armor?

Help!!!
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Old December 22nd, 2006, 09:33 PM posted to alt.support.diet
SFrunner
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Cyn wrote:
I'm one of them people that needs to be told what to do and what exactly not to do on pretty much anything I do.
I need to follow a plan.. something I can print and follow to the T.. I have to follow rules or else I fail miserably. I need
a list of to do's and don't do's so that I can be successful...

Please help me... I have to lose 65 lbs and want to be at 130 by this time next year. (which is a realistic goal). But I have to be told, step by step, what to do. I need grocery lists and a designated work out plan formulated by someone other than me.

I know, it sounds crazy.. but unless I have rules to follow I won't follow them...

Can anyone out there my savior? My Knight or princess in shining armor?

Help!!!



First, knock off the helpless stuff. It won't do you any good in any
part of your life. YOU ALONE have the power to decide what YOU put into
your body. There are no knights, no one to save you, except yourself.

So, start your reading and research. You could try a program like
Weight Watchers but there's not a program in this entire planet who is
going to baby you. Isn't your own life worth the effort? It is only
when you decide that it is, will you lose weight and keep it off. Be an
adult.

Eat less, exercise more, say no to junk food. Use www.fitday.com to
track your progress.

Check out www.cookinglight.com as well. They have great recipes there.

  #3  
Old December 22nd, 2006, 10:33 PM posted to alt.support.diet
Cyn
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gee... thanks!
"SFrunner" wrote in message
ups.com...

Cyn wrote:
I'm one of them people that needs to be told what to do and what exactly
not to do on pretty much anything I do.
I need to follow a plan.. something I can print and follow to the T.. I
have to follow rules or else I fail miserably. I need
a list of to do's and don't do's so that I can be successful...

Please help me... I have to lose 65 lbs and want to be at 130 by this
time next year. (which is a realistic goal). But I have to be told,
step by step, what to do. I need grocery lists and a designated work out
plan formulated by someone other than me.

I know, it sounds crazy.. but unless I have rules to follow I won't
follow them...

Can anyone out there my savior? My Knight or princess in shining armor?

Help!!!



First, knock off the helpless stuff. It won't do you any good in any
part of your life. YOU ALONE have the power to decide what YOU put into
your body. There are no knights, no one to save you, except yourself.

So, start your reading and research. You could try a program like
Weight Watchers but there's not a program in this entire planet who is
going to baby you. Isn't your own life worth the effort? It is only
when you decide that it is, will you lose weight and keep it off. Be an
adult.

Eat less, exercise more, say no to junk food. Use www.fitday.com to
track your progress.

Check out www.cookinglight.com as well. They have great recipes there.



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Old December 22nd, 2006, 10:37 PM posted to alt.support.diet
SFrunner
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Cyn wrote:
gee... thanks!



Well, do you want to lose weight or not?

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Old December 22nd, 2006, 10:43 PM posted to alt.support.diet
SFrunner
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SFrunner wrote:
Cyn wrote:
gee... thanks!



Well, do you want to lose weight or not?



Let me continue...there are lots of great people in here who have lots
tons (literally) of weight.

NOT ONE of them was babied or coddled. They worked their asses off
(again, literally). You should follow their examples and their advice.
They have lots of great advice. And, I admire them.

I get up 5 mornings a week, regardless of rain, freezing temperatures
and such and go run. Does anyone baby me? Hell no!!!

Losing weight is hard freakin' work, it comes with the great rewards,
but only for those who are willing to put the time and effort in.

It's like life. It sounds like you've been spoiled your whole life.
There is nothing in this world worthwhile that is NOT hard work.
Perhaps it's about time you learn this.

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Old December 22nd, 2006, 11:15 PM posted to alt.support.diet
Edna Pearl
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"Cyn" wrote in message
. net...
gee... thanks!


Cyn, I don't post here anymore, but I saw this thread and felt really
sympathetic. This is not a very supportive ng at all, at the moment. It
has been quite different from time to time in the past, but at the moment
this group is prone to name-calling, "tough love," and ignorant
calorie-counting regardless of health considerations. My advice is to read
this post and then run away :-)

Here's a good link for general education about health and fitness for women:
http://www.stumptuous.com/cms/index.php Click on the "eating" link to learn
a lot about diet.

But your post indicates you don't necessarily want to become a nutritional
expert as much as you want to just lose the weight by next year. So . . . .

The most idiot-proof, step-by-step, healthy diet I've seen lately is "The
Abs Diet,"
http://www.amazon.com/Abs-Diet-Six-W...845265-9048012
The whole "abs" focus is a gimmick (which weakens the book, of course), but
the overall health and nutrition stuff in the book is based on rock-solid
research. It's written for men, by the editors of Men's Health Magazine,
but the diet and exercise routine will work just as well for women, and it's
really idiot-proof and healthy. It's not a fad diet, it's simple shopping
lists, meal-planning lists, exercise explanations, and "cheat sheets" that
anybody could happily and healthily and easily following for a lifetime.

A similarly sensible, though less research-based book is "Fight Fat," by
the editors of Prevention magazine. It was written for women. It's out of
print, but you can get it for a penny plus shipping and handling from
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listi...e=UTF8&s=books .
The bottom line diet on pages 35-36 is a lot like Weight Watchers, but the
overall program focusses much more on a nutrionally balanced diet and it is
not based on calorie-counting. It's not as "idiot-proof" as the "Abs Diet"
program, and you'll eventually need to supplement the nutritional wisdom
with info from a less simplistic resource
like www.stumptuous.com (especially the stumptuous section on EFA's) but
it's still quite simple and healthy for a beginner.

Another good book is "Body for Life," by Bill Phillips, which you can
probably get from the library. His program is idiot-proof, healthy, and
comprehensive. My main quibble with this program is that it advocates
exercising on an empty stomach. IMHO, that burns more muscle than fat.
Also, the earlier editions of his book have some erroneous info about
"supplements," so just ignore that chapter.

If you go ahead and start the Abs Diet (that goofy name really annoys me,
but it's a good program) and then start educating and motivating yourself
with some of the other reading I've recommended, you *can* lose the weight
you want without having to become a fitness expert, or go hungry, or do
anything you wouldn't want to do for the rest of your long and healthy life.

Don't be surprised if a ****storm ensues on this thread after my post. I
won't post to this thread anymore. If you want to to e-mail me, feel free.
Just take "bitemespammer." out of my e-mail addy.

ep


  #7  
Old December 22nd, 2006, 11:43 PM posted to alt.support.diet
SFrunner
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Edna Pearl wrote:
"Cyn" wrote in message
. net...
gee... thanks!


Cyn, I don't post here anymore, but I saw this thread and felt really
sympathetic. This is not a very supportive ng at all, at the moment. It
has been quite different from time to time in the past, but at the moment
this group is prone to name-calling, "tough love," and ignorant
calorie-counting regardless of health considerations. My advice is to read
this post and then run away :-)


With all due respect, she doesn't want to do the work for herself. She
wants someone to take her hand and coddle her. Is that how you lost
weight? Are you going to hold her hand while she wallows in sself pity?

I have more sympathy than you could ever imagine, believe me. But, when
someone looks at the world as wanting someone to save them, do you
honestly think that person will be successful at waight loss? Be honest
about it.

Reality is a harsh mistress, we should know that by adulthood.

  #8  
Old December 23rd, 2006, 03:12 AM posted to alt.support.diet
teachrmama
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Unfortunately, Cyn, there is no program that will cover every contingency in
your life. There are situations where you simply have to make decisions.
Besides which, what you need is a better way of life for the rest of your
life--not just until the weight is lost. A new way of eating. It sounds to
me like you need support in your efforts--not necessarily a bite-by-bite
plan to follow. Weight Watchers can provide you with all the support you
need while you form the habits you need to lose weight and maintain that
loss. That might be a good place for you to start.


"Cyn" wrote in message
. net...
I'm one of them people that needs to be told what to do and what exactly not
to do on pretty much anything I do.
I need to follow a plan.. something I can print and follow to the T.. I have
to follow rules or else I fail miserably. I need
a list of to do's and don't do's so that I can be successful...

Please help me... I have to lose 65 lbs and want to be at 130 by this time
next year. (which is a realistic goal). But I have to be told, step by
step, what to do. I need grocery lists and a designated work out plan
formulated by someone other than me.

I know, it sounds crazy.. but unless I have rules to follow I won't follow
them...

Can anyone out there my savior? My Knight or princess in shining armor?

Help!!!


  #9  
Old December 23rd, 2006, 03:15 AM posted to alt.support.diet
teachrmama
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Hi, Edna. How are you doing these days? Are things working better for you?
Did you ever find a group you like?


"Edna Pearl" wrote in message
...
"Cyn" wrote in message
. net...
gee... thanks!


Cyn, I don't post here anymore, but I saw this thread and felt really
sympathetic. This is not a very supportive ng at all, at the moment. It
has been quite different from time to time in the past, but at the moment
this group is prone to name-calling, "tough love," and ignorant
calorie-counting regardless of health considerations. My advice is to
read this post and then run away :-)

Here's a good link for general education about health and fitness for
women:
http://www.stumptuous.com/cms/index.php Click on the "eating" link to
learn
a lot about diet.

But your post indicates you don't necessarily want to become a nutritional
expert as much as you want to just lose the weight by next year. So . . .
.

The most idiot-proof, step-by-step, healthy diet I've seen lately is "The
Abs Diet,"
http://www.amazon.com/Abs-Diet-Six-W...845265-9048012
The whole "abs" focus is a gimmick (which weakens the book, of course),
but
the overall health and nutrition stuff in the book is based on rock-solid
research. It's written for men, by the editors of Men's Health Magazine,
but the diet and exercise routine will work just as well for women, and
it's
really idiot-proof and healthy. It's not a fad diet, it's simple shopping
lists, meal-planning lists, exercise explanations, and "cheat sheets" that
anybody could happily and healthily and easily following for a lifetime.

A similarly sensible, though less research-based book is "Fight Fat," by
the editors of Prevention magazine. It was written for women. It's out
of
print, but you can get it for a penny plus shipping and handling from
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listi...e=UTF8&s=books .
The bottom line diet on pages 35-36 is a lot like Weight Watchers, but the
overall program focusses much more on a nutrionally balanced diet and it
is not based on calorie-counting. It's not as "idiot-proof" as the "Abs
Diet" program, and you'll eventually need to supplement the nutritional
wisdom with info from a less simplistic resource
like www.stumptuous.com (especially the stumptuous section on EFA's) but
it's still quite simple and healthy for a beginner.

Another good book is "Body for Life," by Bill Phillips, which you can
probably get from the library. His program is idiot-proof, healthy, and
comprehensive. My main quibble with this program is that it advocates
exercising on an empty stomach. IMHO, that burns more muscle than fat.
Also, the earlier editions of his book have some erroneous info about
"supplements," so just ignore that chapter.

If you go ahead and start the Abs Diet (that goofy name really annoys me,
but it's a good program) and then start educating and motivating yourself
with some of the other reading I've recommended, you *can* lose the weight
you want without having to become a fitness expert, or go hungry, or do
anything you wouldn't want to do for the rest of your long and healthy
life.

Don't be surprised if a ****storm ensues on this thread after my post. I
won't post to this thread anymore. If you want to to e-mail me, feel free.
Just take "bitemespammer." out of my e-mail addy.

ep



  #10  
Old December 23rd, 2006, 05:27 AM posted to alt.support.diet
Del Cecchi
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"Cyn" wrote in message
. net...
gee... thanks!
"SFrunner" wrote in message
ups.com...

Cyn wrote:
I'm one of them people that needs to be told what to do and what
exactly not to do on pretty much anything I do.
I need to follow a plan.. something I can print and follow to the T..
I have to follow rules or else I fail miserably. I need
a list of to do's and don't do's so that I can be successful...

Please help me... I have to lose 65 lbs and want to be at 130 by this
time next year. (which is a realistic goal). But I have to be told,
step by step, what to do. I need grocery lists and a designated work
out plan formulated by someone other than me.

I know, it sounds crazy.. but unless I have rules to follow I won't
follow them...

Can anyone out there my savior? My Knight or princess in shining
armor?

Help!!!



First, knock off the helpless stuff. It won't do you any good in any
part of your life. YOU ALONE have the power to decide what YOU put
into
your body. There are no knights, no one to save you, except yourself.

So, start your reading and research. You could try a program like
Weight Watchers but there's not a program in this entire planet who is
going to baby you. Isn't your own life worth the effort? It is only
when you decide that it is, will you lose weight and keep it off. Be
an
adult.

Eat less, exercise more, say no to junk food. Use www.fitday.com to
track your progress.

Check out www.cookinglight.com as well. They have great recipes there.


The mayo clinic has some sample menus in their nutrition/diet section.
Else there are a number of commercial establishments that will do exactly
what you want. Or there are books and web pages with menus and eating
plans.

It would be better if you could take responsibility for yourself, but if
that won't work ....

Or you could take the plan that I have done in the past and some on the
group seem to do and eat nearly the same thing in the same amount every
day, at least for a couple of meals.

del



 




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