low carb vs. low cal

I was wondering if my thinking is right?

LC just makes you feel more full so you don't eat as much? Or is there
more?

If I ate the same amount of calories of pasta compared to a steak.....are
calories calories, or is that steak just going to burn faster?

The reason I am asking is I want to take a week or two off LC, but want to
lose or stay the same weight. I just need a little break. I can't see me
doing any other diet for any length of time.

Thanks,
Curt
--
Started low carb May '03 this time.
211/178/177 . . 6'2" 15% BF?
Age 38
Highest weight 250 5+ years ago

A study was done where the low carb dieters ate 300 MORE calories a day
than the low fat dieters and still lost more weight.

http://my.webmd.com/content/article/75/89698.htm
http://www.cnn.com/2003/HEALTH/diet....rb.mystery.ap/

So, it's not as simple as calories in calories out.

Jennifer


curt wrote:

I was wondering if my thinking is right?

LC just makes you feel more full so you don't eat as much? Or is there
more?

If I ate the same amount of calories of pasta compared to a steak.....are
calories calories, or is that steak just going to burn faster?

The reason I am asking is I want to take a week or two off LC, but want to
lose or stay the same weight. I just need a little break. I can't see me
doing any other diet for any length of time.

Thanks,
Curt

curt wrote:
:: I was wondering if my thinking is right?
::
:: LC just makes you feel more full so you don't eat as much? Or is
:: there more?

I think it is better to say it reduces appetite, not necessarily making you
feel full. You may be sated sooner. Carbs will make you feel full, too,
but you might still end up wanting to eat because of BG swings.

::
:: If I ate the same amount of calories of pasta compared to a
:: steak.....are calories calories, or is that steak just going to burn
:: faster?

It depends. They will more than likely act very differently in your body.
First, that pasta will result in BG swings, so you'll end up hungry sooner
(more than likely)...the steak will likely keep you from getting hungry. if
you don't ever eat, you probably won't lay down any fat, but if you've been
LCing, the pasta will cause you to add water weight.

::
:: The reason I am asking is I want to take a week or two off LC, but
:: want to lose or stay the same weight. I just need a little break.
:: I can't see me doing any other diet for any length of time.
::

If you've been strictly LCing, and you add back carbs, then you'll gain
water weight. If you should over eat, you'll lay down fat too. The water
weight will fade as you go back on LC for a while..

:: Thanks,
:: Curt
:: --
:: Started low carb May '03 this time.
:: 211/178/177 . . 6'2" 15% BF?
:: Age 38
:: Highest weight 250 5+ years ago

On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 22:37:49 GMT, "curt"
announced in front of God and everybody:

I was wondering if my thinking is right?

LC just makes you feel more full so you don't eat as much? Or is there
more?

For some people -- people with normal insulin and blood sugar
processes, who just need to cut calories and get a bit more exercise
to drop some weight -- that may, indeed, be the case.

For the truly insulin resistant, it's more complicated than that. For
them (us, rather, as I'm one) it's more about cutting carbs than about
cutting calories.

If I ate the same amount of calories of pasta compared to a steak.....are
calories calories, or is that steak just going to burn faster?

That's an overly simplistic and vague question. How much pasta? How
much steak? What sort of sauce is on the pasta? How much exercise are
you getting? And -- most important of all -- are you insulin
resistant?

The reason I am asking is I want to take a week or two off LC, but want to
lose or stay the same weight. I just need a little break. I can't see me
doing any other diet for any length of time.

So eat what you think is appropriate and weigh yourself every day.
Keep a watch on how you feel, note if you have noticeable mood and/or
energy swings, if your muscles ache, if you're fatigued. If so, you
may be happier cutting back on the carbs again.

There's no one-size-fits-all answer, much as you might like there to
be. Your body is *your* body, and you've got to figure out what it
wants and needs.

Dawn

curt wrote:

I was wondering if my thinking is right?

LC just makes you feel more full so you don't eat as much? Or is there
more?

If I ate the same amount of calories of pasta compared to a steak.....are
calories calories, or is that steak just going to burn faster?

how long have you been doing this? and you haven't figured this out
yet?

yeesh.

T68b wrote:

Pat, I noticed you ride? (as do others--so anyone feel free to jump in
here!) I just bought a bike--spur of the moment purchase, good sale. It's
a K2--according to the sales person that's a decent bike.

is K2 the brand name or the model name? i don't recognize it, and i
don't have time to google because i need to get on my own bike and ride
it over to the shop for some new brake pads

did you buy it from a bike shop?

Hasnt been used, so can still be returned if need be. anyone have any
comments or recommendations? Looking moderate price(cant spend 4-500 on a
bike!) This one originally was 269.00 i think. Last bike was a Sears
FreeSpirit(college days!!!)

if it is comfortable for you to ride and you can afford it, then it's a
decent bike. you can *always* spend more money on bikes, but you don't
have to. if it fits, if it's in your price range, and as long as it's
not total junk, it should be just fine.

Interesting. I always had a gut feeling that a high fat diet would make you
able to eat more and not gain because your body would not need to store fat
because you are feeding it so much fat already.

This is a concern if I go off the diet.

Thanks for the links.
Curt

"Jennifer" wrote in message
...
A study was done where the low carb dieters ate 300 MORE calories a day
than the low fat dieters and still lost more weight.

http://my.webmd.com/content/article/75/89698.htm
http://www.cnn.com/2003/HEALTH/diet....rb.mystery.ap/

So, it's not as simple as calories in calories out.

Jennifer


curt wrote:

I was wondering if my thinking is right?

LC just makes you feel more full so you don't eat as much? Or is there
more?

If I ate the same amount of calories of pasta compared to a
steak.....are
calories calories, or is that steak just going to burn faster?

The reason I am asking is I want to take a week or two off LC, but want
to
lose or stay the same weight. I just need a little break. I can't see
me
doing any other diet for any length of time.

Thanks,
Curt

Thanks for the thoughts. Blood sugar spikes don't seem to occur for me no
matter what I eat.. or I don't notice them if they do.

I do plan on working out hard, but worry about gaining any weight, meaning
fat.

I will give it a try soon. It is all just part of the journey anyway.

Curt

"Pat" wrote in message
...


LC just makes you feel more full so you don't eat as much? Or is there
more?

If I ate the same amount of calories of pasta compared to a
steak.....are
calories calories, or is that steak just going to burn faster?

The reason I am asking is I want to take a week or two off LC, but want
to
lose or stay the same weight. I just need a little break. I can't see
me
doing any other diet for any length of time.

Thanks,
Curt

I haven't been strictly doing low carb for some time--I guess I am on
"maintenance." What I do is just keep an eye out for low glycemic carbs
with lots of fiber. If I want something that has high glycemic carbs, I
make
sure that I have a lot of fiber in the same meal. Pasta is generally high
glycemic and will make your blood sugar spike faster than eating a steak.
I
don't think you will suddenly start to gain weight in just two weeks as
long
as you keep up your physical activities.

On Saturday, for example, I had 5 plums, 1 nectarine, 2 chocolate crème
cookies, 2 oatmeal crème cookies, 2 Fig Newtons, 1/2 of a banana and 5
glasses of something called "Quick Start" and didn't gain an ounce. Of
course, I rode 100K in 4 hours and that had some effect on what I could
eat.
So, keep up the physical part of it, and I think you'll be fine.

Pat in TX

Water weight doesn't seem to be much of a concern for me unless I drink a
bunch of beer as I have been known to do.

As far as feeling hungry, yeah, that is so true and will be something I will
need to get used to for a week or two.

Guess, I just want to mess around a bit. Can always go back on LC, if I
hate it.

Thanks,
Curt

"Roger Zoul" wrote in message
...
curt wrote:
:: I was wondering if my thinking is right?
::
:: LC just makes you feel more full so you don't eat as much? Or is
:: there more?

I think it is better to say it reduces appetite, not necessarily making
you
feel full. You may be sated sooner. Carbs will make you feel full, too,
but you might still end up wanting to eat because of BG swings.

::
:: If I ate the same amount of calories of pasta compared to a
:: steak.....are calories calories, or is that steak just going to burn
:: faster?

It depends. They will more than likely act very differently in your body.
First, that pasta will result in BG swings, so you'll end up hungry sooner
(more than likely)...the steak will likely keep you from getting hungry.
if
you don't ever eat, you probably won't lay down any fat, but if you've
been
LCing, the pasta will cause you to add water weight.

::
:: The reason I am asking is I want to take a week or two off LC, but
:: want to lose or stay the same weight. I just need a little break.
:: I can't see me doing any other diet for any length of time.
::

If you've been strictly LCing, and you add back carbs, then you'll gain
water weight. If you should over eat, you'll lay down fat too. The water
weight will fade as you go back on LC for a while..

:: Thanks,
:: Curt
:: --
:: Started low carb May '03 this time.
:: 211/178/177 . . 6'2" 15% BF?
:: Age 38
:: Highest weight 250 5+ years ago

"Dawn Taylor" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 22:37:49 GMT, "curt"
announced in front of God and everybody:

I was wondering if my thinking is right?

LC just makes you feel more full so you don't eat as much? Or is there
more?

For some people -- people with normal insulin and blood sugar
processes, who just need to cut calories and get a bit more exercise
to drop some weight -- that may, indeed, be the case.

For the truly insulin resistant, it's more complicated than that. For
them (us, rather, as I'm one) it's more about cutting carbs than about
cutting calories.

I do have normal insulin and blood sugar levels.



If I ate the same amount of calories of pasta compared to a steak.....are
calories calories, or is that steak just going to burn faster?

That's an overly simplistic and vague question. How much pasta? How
much steak? What sort of sauce is on the pasta? How much exercise are
you getting? And -- most important of all -- are you insulin
resistant?

I don't think it was overly simplistic. I stated that they were both equal
in caloric value, which is the same as how much. No sauce is needed to be
mentioned. What does exercise have to do with this as long as it is
consistent?

Not insulin resistant.

Curt



The reason I am asking is I want to take a week or two off LC, but want
to
lose or stay the same weight. I just need a little break. I can't see
me
doing any other diet for any length of time.

So eat what you think is appropriate and weigh yourself every day.
Keep a watch on how you feel, note if you have noticeable mood and/or
energy swings, if your muscles ache, if you're fatigued. If so, you
may be happier cutting back on the carbs again.

There's no one-size-fits-all answer, much as you might like there to
be. Your body is *your* body, and you've got to figure out what it
wants and needs.

Dawn