Caffeine and Water, my lessons learned

On 23 Sep 2004 15:41:28 GMT, DG511 wrote:

(Wee Willie)

writes:

am (DG511) wrote in message
...
Wow, I'm glad you're okay.

Years ago, my gynecologist said that if I found a calcium supplement
that
also
had magnesium in it, I'd sleep better. That's proven to be true, and
there
are
*lots* of calcium supplements with magnesium on the market. Since most
women
need to take extra calcium anyway, it's an easy way to kill two birds
with
one
stone.


But for how long did this work? When I started taking magnesium, it
made me sleep better for about a week, but then I adapted and have not
noticed any effect since.

I'm sorry it stopped working for you. I can still tell a difference,
and I've
been doing this for several years. I wake up about 1/3 as often, and I
get
back to sleep a lot faster when I do wake up. So it's made a huge
difference
for me.

(Sorry I didn't answer sooner; I've been out of town on business and
didn't go
online for non-work purposes.)

Daria
166/under 145/under 145
sugar-free since 2/1/04
low-carb since 2/17/04


But if you've been doing it for years, how do you know it makes a
difference? Do you not take the supplement for a while then take it?

--
Bob in CT
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Bob in CT

writes:

On 23 Sep 2004 15:41:28 GMT, DG511 wrote:

(Wee Willie)

writes:

am (DG511) wrote in message
...
Wow, I'm glad you're okay.

Years ago, my gynecologist said that if I found a calcium supplement
that
also
had magnesium in it, I'd sleep better. That's proven to be true, and
there
are
*lots* of calcium supplements with magnesium on the market. Since most
women
need to take extra calcium anyway, it's an easy way to kill two birds
with
one
stone.


But for how long did this work? When I started taking magnesium, it
made me sleep better for about a week, but then I adapted and have not
noticed any effect since.

I'm sorry it stopped working for you. I can still tell a difference,
and I've
been doing this for several years. I wake up about 1/3 as often, and I
get
back to sleep a lot faster when I do wake up. So it's made a huge
difference
for me.

(Sorry I didn't answer sooner; I've been out of town on business and
didn't go
online for non-work purposes.)

Daria
166/under 145/under 145
sugar-free since 2/1/04
low-carb since 2/17/04


But if you've been doing it for years, how do you know it makes a
difference? Do you not take the supplement for a while then take it?


I had the insomnia problem for years, and started taking magnesium about 5
years ago. And for those 5 years, I've not had the insomnia nearly as badly as
before. I don't think I suddenly stopped having insomnia, and there have been
times when it's hit me and I've realized that I forgot to take the supplement
(this usually happens when I'm away from home).

In any case, if a person needs to take a magnesium supplement, they might
consider taking it at night since it has a soporific effect. And since most
women should be taking calcium supplements anyway, and since calcium shouldn't
be taken at the same time as some other minerals and vitamins, a combination
supplement strikes me as a good idea.

Daria
166/under 145/under 145
sugar-free since 2/1/04
low-carb since 2/17/04

On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 14:57:47 GMT, Craig Smith
wrote:

TavliGal wrote:

In hindsight, and looking over my fitday logs, my conclusion is this: I was
dehydrated (obviously), I had been drinking more caffeine than my usual 1
cup in the day (since low carbing) and I had again decreased my carbs and
increased my protein. I was also not drinking as much water as usual in the
couple of weeks previous to this happening. Main thing was the increased
coffee intake, decreased water intake, with increased protein can cause
arrhythmias (increased heart rate). I have been prone to arrhythmias all my
life, on occasion my heart will suddenly race, I'll take a few deep breaths
and it's back to normal, no problem. But this time I knew was different
because my deep breaths didn't help at all.

I'd like to second that. I generally drink several big glasses of
iced tea each day; once in a while I'll have coffee with breakfast.
But a couple of weeks ago I did all that, then had some iced coffees
in the evening---triple strength. Don't ask me why I had them so
late. That night, I had arrhythmia all night long and my heart was
racing---I was terrified, of course. By morning it had calmed down,
and then I made the connection with caffeine. And yes, I had become a
tad dehydrated and had been eating a lot of protein. I tend to lay
the blame more at the feet of caffeine than protein, but I certainly
agree with you that it's something to monitor very carefully indeed.

.:. Craig

Caffeine may cause problems in certain people, but coffee does not
caust dehydration. Caffeine does cause a loss of water, but only a
fraction of what you're adding by drinking the beverage. In people who
don't regularly consume caffeine, for example, researchers say that a
cup of java actually adds about two-thirds the amount of hydrating
fluid that's in a cup of water.

That is to say, one cup of coffee equals about two-thirds a cup of
water--if you're not a regular caffeine drinker.

Regular coffee and tea drinkers become accustomed to caffeine and lose
little, if any, fluid. In a study published in the October issue of
the Journal of the American College of Nutrition, researchers at the
Center for Human Nutrition in Omaha measured how different
combinations of water, coffee and caffeinated sodas affected the
hydration status of 18 healthy adults who drink caffeinated beverages
routinely.

"We found no significant differences at all," says nutritionist Ann
Grandjean, the study's lead author. "The purpose of the study was to
find out if caffeine is dehydrating in healthy people who are drinking
normal amounts of it. It is not."

On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 14:57:47 GMT, Craig Smith
wrote:

TavliGal wrote:

In hindsight, and looking over my fitday logs, my conclusion is this: I was
dehydrated (obviously), I had been drinking more caffeine than my usual 1
cup in the day (since low carbing) and I had again decreased my carbs and
increased my protein. I was also not drinking as much water as usual in the
couple of weeks previous to this happening. Main thing was the increased
coffee intake, decreased water intake, with increased protein can cause
arrhythmias (increased heart rate). I have been prone to arrhythmias all my
life, on occasion my heart will suddenly race, I'll take a few deep breaths
and it's back to normal, no problem. But this time I knew was different
because my deep breaths didn't help at all.

I'd like to second that. I generally drink several big glasses of
iced tea each day; once in a while I'll have coffee with breakfast.
But a couple of weeks ago I did all that, then had some iced coffees
in the evening---triple strength. Don't ask me why I had them so
late. That night, I had arrhythmia all night long and my heart was
racing---I was terrified, of course. By morning it had calmed down,
and then I made the connection with caffeine. And yes, I had become a
tad dehydrated and had been eating a lot of protein. I tend to lay
the blame more at the feet of caffeine than protein, but I certainly
agree with you that it's something to monitor very carefully indeed.

.:. Craig

Caffeine may cause problems in certain people, but coffee does not
caust dehydration. Caffeine does cause a loss of water, but only a
fraction of what you're adding by drinking the beverage. In people who
don't regularly consume caffeine, for example, researchers say that a
cup of java actually adds about two-thirds the amount of hydrating
fluid that's in a cup of water.

That is to say, one cup of coffee equals about two-thirds a cup of
water--if you're not a regular caffeine drinker.

Regular coffee and tea drinkers become accustomed to caffeine and lose
little, if any, fluid. In a study published in the October issue of
the Journal of the American College of Nutrition, researchers at the
Center for Human Nutrition in Omaha measured how different
combinations of water, coffee and caffeinated sodas affected the
hydration status of 18 healthy adults who drink caffeinated beverages
routinely.

"We found no significant differences at all," says nutritionist Ann
Grandjean, the study's lead author. "The purpose of the study was to
find out if caffeine is dehydrating in healthy people who are drinking
normal amounts of it. It is not."