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nyny not too bad (OT - Joyce)
"Joyce" wrote in message ... The nasty area homes is really a shame. I have heard a lot of nightmare stories, had somewhat of an idea what to look for when trying to place mom (my sister is also a nurse). Guess we just got lucky, but did opt for a much older, smaller and established home that was within 2 blocks of where we grew up. Nursing staff turnover is very, very low ... which I also take as a good sign. I did look on some website at nursing home ratings, this one appeared (to me) to score very well. Again, just plain ol' dumb luck. ****This sounds like you have a wonderful place for your Mom. I think part of our problem is the culture here. Very "old mexico" in a way. This is both very very Good, and not so good. I am Expected to do what I am doing. The families take care of their own. The people in the nursing homes, either have no family to speak of, or are judged by a lot of people as having "bad" families. Well over 2/3 of the nurses in the nursing homes are from Canada or some other country. And hate it here. The other third are people who cannot get a job anywhere else in the country. I'm sorry your mom won't let you leave her sight, that has to be tough. It's not like we don't lay enough guilt on ourselves - sure don't need anyone else helping in that department. G Is the meanness just part of the disease? *****I take it with a grain of salt and go out anyway when I need to, but it is a consideration. I am going out tomorrow afternoon. She will do what she does (either act like, or genuinely get really confused). She will forget the whole thing by Saturday morning ! Meanness is supposed to be part of the disease, or at least profound personality changes. My Ma was always very sarcastic with me, and we never got along. She was "horrified" by my weight. My sister and she were both very tiny and petite. When Ma first began getting this, she became very afraid and was suddenly extremely "NICE" to me, which believe me, was icky. Now she is beginning to go back to mean, and frankly I am more comfortable with that. I've heard others speak of the same thing. I haven't noticed any out of the ordinary meanness on my mom's part - but she was always a nasty cuss when things didn't go according to HER plan. G Maybe the woman you found will let you run away for a few days. Ahhhhh, is always good to dream. Joyce On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 21:50:13 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: oh hoo boy. She would really pitch a fit. She pitches a fit when I am out of her sight for an afternoon. I do have a line on a lady who helps a friend of mine who had a stroke. This lady will come and stay here if I want to take off for some reason. The homes/facilities in this area are really not good. As a nurse, I know. Horror stories. When I worked the med/surg floor at the local hospital they would come in with all kinds of problems that we knew were caused by the environment. "Joyce" wrote in message .. . Do you have any homes/facilities in your area that you could place your mom for just a few days? We have a few near me, my uncle used them occassionally for his wife. He had no one that could come into his home to stay with her for extended periods, and she was unable to care for herself at all. His choice was to give up his life totally (which he was more than willing to do) or seek out alternatives (at our prodding). After the first 3 day week-end away, he found that she was very well cared for, contented ... and he was much more relaxed. After that he forced himself to do it twice a year - and was able to what he really enjoyed and missed ... old army type conventions. Joyce On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 13:17:50 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: Oh the bliss envisioned by a mental picture of me, the tent, the space, the silence, the Lack of anyone, anywhere..... We are having some trouble in paradise here with my daughter that has me a bit freaked. I so want to run away from home. I gotta find some help with the home caregiving thing so I can take off once in a while, or things are going to be not good here. "Fred" wrote in message .. . Okay. Be that way. Happy camper, huh - try snow camping (G) Chaos - hope you get it under control. Fred On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 20:11:03 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: I don't want no blinkin gifts buddy.... Snarl. (how was that?) you do know of course that if I get to Jan 1, under 164 I am a total happy camper? But It would be nice to have some space. But heck, things are a little chaotic here in humid land, I dunno what will transpire. "Fred" wrote in message .. . Well, this morning was not as good as hoped. But you really have a great chance in about two weeks - we have our work "employee recognition breakfast" early the morning of WI. I will be dressed in jacket, tie, slacks, etc and will have breakfast and then head to WI! Not a great situtation unless I can sit with 300 others eating breakfast and NOT eat breakfast! But maybe it is time to just let you have it as I would really hate to be the one to drive you to desparation. Besides, some others are now giving you a run for the money. On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 12:45:52 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: Ah haha. You better be prepared to weigh in shorts I am having a very good week over here. "Fred" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 17:54:18 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: What did you do with your NEW body while you were rollin around in the snow with the OLD one? Or whats her name? would be the other smart a comment to Ah, the ol' "I did not wake up grumpy, I let her sleep!" (G) Actually, the new body must be in pretty good shape - I remember doing this trip last year and struggling a bit more. I was surprised at how early it was when I stopped for my SECOND lunch (G) Leaving on these trips early - one tends to snack somewhere around 10am with the first lunch and then eat again around noon. that one. I am on a major roll this week feeling SOOOO renewed after living through turkey day and ending up with my scale saying 159 again. I am gonna be hard to beat this week, unless you kept some of your fabulous recent loss......... I do hope I can disappoint you!!! I seem to be holding reasonably well (fingers crossed). Maybe thanksgiving and awful pies helps!!! (G) But clearly this means that I cannot weighin in full regalia. It will be your fault as I shiver in shorts. (g) La "Fred" wrote in message .. . Well, ahem, within reason. (G) Dragged the OLD body out on a snowshoe trip yesterday. Glorious in the mountains but the snow was definitely not my definition of skiable. On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 19:58:06 +1300, Erin Marsh wrote: On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:34:57 -0800, Fred wrote: Okay, that is it!!!! (G) Aw, c'mon Fred. Admit it, you're loving the attention ;-) |
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nyny not too bad
There is the culture thing here again, of course we don't have snow, but the
guy would have been surrounded by people all arguing over the best thing to do within 30 seconds. I was driving down the street one evening and a guy on a motorcycle just literally fell off the thing in front of the car in front of mine. The guy in THAT car got out and as soon as he heard I was a nurse, and that I had called 911 on my cell phone he got into the street and began directing traffic. Two other nurses stopped to help before the ambulance got there. The guy was totally drunk, our only job was to keep him lying down until they arrived. Once when Ma overbalanced in a grocery store parking lot and sat down hard on her butt, I had about 30 people offer to help while I was assessing her, before getting her up again. "Joyce" wrote in message ... Oh how funny! I do know how frustrating it could be though, but still would be hard to control the laughter. My brothers have no patience for the constant repitition - asking same questions over and over, within minutes of getting an answer. I've given up trying to explain that she isn't doing it on purpose, now just tell them she does it to pull their chains. Currently she is focused on her glasses ... constantly tells all of us she needs new glasses, that the pair she is wearing are ones that someone gave to her years ago. I've told her the changing eyesight is due to cataracts, not quite ready to have anything done on them yet. Then she changes to needing to have knee replacement surgery ... again. NOT gonna happen - will not take the risk of the anesthtic. Do I have the fun restaurant games ahead of me? Right now mom is ok going out, and does love to go (because they don't feed her at the home, ya know. The only meals she gets are those that she sneaks into *office meetings* for). Yet she has put weight on, so go figure. g The only problem we have at restaurants is that she needs to have the menu read to her, tells me what she wants, then tells the waiter something else. And always complains about what she gets. LOL But she hasn't had a bad desert yet! That really is a shame as to the care and respect the elderly get in your nursing homes. I know I've told you, but I do feel we got incredibly lucky. The staff where mom is, is wonderful! Appears to be lots of hugs and genuine caring, lots of attempts at what I call ego-boosting - working on raising mom's level of self-esteem. Why does it vary so much from home to home? While out shopping today, I had two senior ladies get lost in the store, couldn't find the elevator or their car. They didn't realize the store had two levels and two parking lots (both of which were totally packed). I overheard them talking and told them to just follow me as I was heading to the elevator. They acted so surprised that anyone would even give them the time of day ... chatted the entire time with me, and I walked them to the door leading to the upper parking lot. Our area is loaded with fast paced yuppies - rarely give the time of day to seniors and have no patience for them. Help? That's a foreign concept. Heck, last year I saw a wheelchair man tip over when coming out of his home - laid face down in the snow and ice. I was the only car to stop and try to help. The guy told me he was bleeding and I shouldn't help ... I told him I didn't care, we had to get him out of the snow ... at least his face. Called the police when I realized he was just too darned heavy for me to do anything (guess it was dead weight since he couldn't assist me at all). I still am dumbfounded that not one other person stopped ... but all didn't hesitate to slow down and gawk as they drove past. Joyce On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 21:54:16 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: Yes, she had put one on, then another over it. I got her to come away by telling her they were "mens" coats (they were). I usually walk her in the mall when it is not open yet? And she gripes the whole way "nothing is open, this is boring, why are we here" and I tell her "for Exercise!" and she says "I don't need exercise" then a few steps farther and we do that all again... It is really neat taking her out to eat. She loves loves loves to go, but will do things like put butter on her knife and lick it off, or put tartar sauce on her vegetables, or bread, and don't even let her slow down at the desserts in a cafeteria or she will pick up two or three and carry them. As in lift them off the plates. One thing about our area, people really respect the elderly who are out in the community, and try to help. I don't know why it doesn't extend to care in the nursing homes. "Joyce" wrote in message .. . Oh Lesanne, I don't know whether to laugh or to cry. My mom is bugging me to take her Christmas shopping, not sure how you do it cuz I'm sure not looking forward to taking her into a store. I know she will want to bring everything home, swears she has no clothing and no food. sigh Was your mom putting one coat on top of the other? hehehe guess sometimes you just gotta laugh, at least hope you were able to later. (My frustrations always turn very humorous when I can finally retell them ... like the missing underwear that was lovingly giftbagged to go to my older brother) Joyce On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:25:45 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: Oh, on a lighter note, Ma told me to "drop dead" out of the blue in a store yesterday. She is finally exhibiting some of the meanness I have heard about. I was trying to get her to walk, and she wanted to put on the jackets she was standing near. As in two or three of them. "Fred" wrote in message .. . You have pictured the idylic nature of winter camping - very pure and very quiet. I hope you can bring some of that serenity to whatever is happening. Vacations from caregiving are mandatory - I recall spelling my dad for a week and did not know how he did it as long as he did. It was also when my sister and I made the decision that dad needed full relief or he would die first - it was that simple. Best On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 13:17:50 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: Oh the bliss envisioned by a mental picture of me, the tent, the space, the silence, the Lack of anyone, anywhere..... We are having some trouble in paradise here with my daughter that has me a bit freaked. I so want to run away from home. I gotta find some help with the home caregiving thing so I can take off once in a while, or things are going to be not good here. "Fred" wrote in message .. . Okay. Be that way. Happy camper, huh - try snow camping (G) Chaos - hope you get it under control. Fred On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 20:11:03 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: I don't want no blinkin gifts buddy.... Snarl. (how was that?) you do know of course that if I get to Jan 1, under 164 I am a total happy camper? But It would be nice to have some space. But heck, things are a little chaotic here in humid land, I dunno what will transpire. "Fred" wrote in message .. . Well, this morning was not as good as hoped. But you really have a great chance in about two weeks - we have our work "employee recognition breakfast" early the morning of WI. I will be dressed in jacket, tie, slacks, etc and will have breakfast and then head to WI! Not a great situtation unless I can sit with 300 others eating breakfast and NOT eat breakfast! But maybe it is time to just let you have it as I would really hate to be the one to drive you to desparation. Besides, some others are now giving you a run for the money. On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 12:45:52 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: Ah haha. You better be prepared to weigh in shorts I am having a very good week over here. "Fred" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 17:54:18 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: What did you do with your NEW body while you were rollin around in the snow with the OLD one? Or whats her name? would be the other smart a comment to Ah, the ol' "I did not wake up grumpy, I let her sleep!" (G) Actually, the new body must be in pretty good shape - I remember doing this trip last year and struggling a bit more. I was surprised at how early it was when I stopped for my SECOND lunch (G) Leaving on these trips early - one tends to snack somewhere around 10am with the first lunch and then eat again around noon. that one. I am on a major roll this week feeling SOOOO renewed after living through turkey day and ending up with my scale saying 159 again. I am gonna be hard to beat this week, unless you kept some of your fabulous recent loss......... I do hope I can disappoint you!!! I seem to be holding reasonably well (fingers crossed). Maybe thanksgiving and awful pies helps!!! (G) But clearly this means that I cannot weighin in full regalia. It will be your fault as I shiver in shorts. (g) La "Fred" wrote in message .. . Well, ahem, within reason. (G) Dragged the OLD body out on a snowshoe trip yesterday. Glorious in the mountains but the snow was definitely not my definition of skiable. On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 19:58:06 +1300, Erin Marsh wrote: On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:34:57 -0800, Fred wrote: Okay, that is it!!!! (G) Aw, c'mon Fred. Admit it, you're loving the attention ;-) |
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nyny not too bad )OLD FRED?)
I don't think getting shot would be all that pleasant. But compared
to marriage ....... (g) On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 12:04:55 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: Well, when I think about it seriously, getting shot is not such a bad thing, frequently not terminal, especially here where peoples' aim is not all that great. And I am a smaller target. You know what they say about the other, you are not complete until you are married, then you are Really Finished. Or the 3 ring thing.. Engagement ring, Wedding ring, SuffeRing... "Fred" wrote in message .. . I have not heard that "statistic." Got your bullet proof vest yet? (G) On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 21:55:40 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: FRED! I was talking about MONEY WISE Good grief! As In I don't need the old guys wallet . You know what they say anyway, after a woman is past 50 she is more likely to be shot in the U.S.A. than she is to get married again. ! "Fred" wrote in message .. . (More silence....) On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:22:51 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: tee hee, I just have this "father" thing I think. I can pretty much take care of myself. . "Fred" wrote in message news Oh, hoping for an inheritance? (gd&r) Sorry but I just purchased cross-country ski set number 15, I think! (G) Now I need some new bindings for them..... On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 13:14:30 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: There is THAT. or THOSE. Legs, that is...... Tell you what though, from the advanced age of 55, since I do also love "older" men, Fred is probably too young for me..... "Joyce" wrote in message .. . hehehe - and we've seen the *leg* pics to prove that point! Joyce On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 20:14:37 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: GAAHHH. Quit teasing, I refuse to google it. And I have parttimers, which is one reason I cleaned up the diet, hoping not to progress to Alzheimers... Just spit it out, how old can you be? And don't think that your age will protect you, men tend to improve with age you know...... "Fred" wrote in message .. . Here's one hint - I have a friend who is 63 and he can hike me into the ground. And another who is over 70 and can, at least, keep up. Actually, I believe that I have mentioned my age before in some thread long ago and far away. On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 12:47:31 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: hmmm the Fifth decade, or could you actually BE old, like 70 or something. Somehow I doubt it, you are too lively, although I did have a friend who was a tennis terror at 85. "Fred" wrote in message .. . I guess it is time to resort to court stuff again - I plead the Fifth. On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 17:56:55 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: So how old are you Fred? You don't Look old. You better be older than I am if you are out there referring to yourself as OLD. Watch it now. La "Fred" wrote in message .. . Well, ahem, within reason. (G) Dragged the OLD body out on a snowshoe trip yesterday. Glorious in the mountains but the snow was definitely not my definition of skiable. On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 19:58:06 +1300, Erin Marsh wrote: On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:34:57 -0800, Fred wrote: Okay, that is it!!!! (G) Aw, c'mon Fred. Admit it, you're loving the attention ;-) |
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nyny not too bad )OLD FRED?)
exactly
"Fred" wrote in message ... I don't think getting shot would be all that pleasant. But compared to marriage ....... (g) On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 12:04:55 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: Well, when I think about it seriously, getting shot is not such a bad thing, frequently not terminal, especially here where peoples' aim is not all that great. And I am a smaller target. You know what they say about the other, you are not complete until you are married, then you are Really Finished. Or the 3 ring thing.. Engagement ring, Wedding ring, SuffeRing... "Fred" wrote in message .. . I have not heard that "statistic." Got your bullet proof vest yet? (G) On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 21:55:40 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: FRED! I was talking about MONEY WISE Good grief! As In I don't need the old guys wallet . You know what they say anyway, after a woman is past 50 she is more likely to be shot in the U.S.A. than she is to get married again. ! "Fred" wrote in message .. . (More silence....) On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:22:51 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: tee hee, I just have this "father" thing I think. I can pretty much take care of myself. . "Fred" wrote in message news Oh, hoping for an inheritance? (gd&r) Sorry but I just purchased cross-country ski set number 15, I think! (G) Now I need some new bindings for them..... On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 13:14:30 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: There is THAT. or THOSE. Legs, that is...... Tell you what though, from the advanced age of 55, since I do also love "older" men, Fred is probably too young for me..... "Joyce" wrote in message .. . hehehe - and we've seen the *leg* pics to prove that point! Joyce On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 20:14:37 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: GAAHHH. Quit teasing, I refuse to google it. And I have parttimers, which is one reason I cleaned up the diet, hoping not to progress to Alzheimers... Just spit it out, how old can you be? And don't think that your age will protect you, men tend to improve with age you know...... "Fred" wrote in message .. . Here's one hint - I have a friend who is 63 and he can hike me into the ground. And another who is over 70 and can, at least, keep up. Actually, I believe that I have mentioned my age before in some thread long ago and far away. On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 12:47:31 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: hmmm the Fifth decade, or could you actually BE old, like 70 or something. Somehow I doubt it, you are too lively, although I did have a friend who was a tennis terror at 85. "Fred" wrote in message .. . I guess it is time to resort to court stuff again - I plead the Fifth. On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 17:56:55 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: So how old are you Fred? You don't Look old. You better be older than I am if you are out there referring to yourself as OLD. Watch it now. La "Fred" wrote in message .. . Well, ahem, within reason. (G) Dragged the OLD body out on a snowshoe trip yesterday. Glorious in the mountains but the snow was definitely not my definition of skiable. On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 19:58:06 +1300, Erin Marsh wrote: On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:34:57 -0800, Fred wrote: Okay, that is it!!!! (G) Aw, c'mon Fred. Admit it, you're loving the attention ;-) |
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nyny not too bad
I am not sure if you have this in your area or not, but when my dad was not
doing well and mom needed a break, they had an adult day care place that was ran by the city I think. They would pick him up in the van and take him for the day and then return him that afternoon. He was normally gone from about 9-3, but that was a nice break for mom to be able to go grocery shopping and get her hair done and spend some time without having to constantly watch dad. I think they had activities, and exercise and lunch served, I know dad could never comment on how he liked it or not, but he seemed happy when he returned and it was good for him to interact with others besides mom. Debbie "Lesanne" wrote in message news oh hoo boy. She would really pitch a fit. She pitches a fit when I am out of her sight for an afternoon. I do have a line on a lady who helps a friend of mine who had a stroke. This lady will come and stay here if I want to take off for some reason. The homes/facilities in this area are really not good. As a nurse, I know. Horror stories. When I worked the med/surg floor at the local hospital they would come in with all kinds of problems that we knew were caused by the environment. "Joyce" wrote in message ... Do you have any homes/facilities in your area that you could place your mom for just a few days? We have a few near me, my uncle used them occassionally for his wife. He had no one that could come into his home to stay with her for extended periods, and she was unable to care for herself at all. His choice was to give up his life totally (which he was more than willing to do) or seek out alternatives (at our prodding). After the first 3 day week-end away, he found that she was very well cared for, contented ... and he was much more relaxed. After that he forced himself to do it twice a year - and was able to what he really enjoyed and missed ... old army type conventions. Joyce On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 13:17:50 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: Oh the bliss envisioned by a mental picture of me, the tent, the space, the silence, the Lack of anyone, anywhere..... We are having some trouble in paradise here with my daughter that has me a bit freaked. I so want to run away from home. I gotta find some help with the home caregiving thing so I can take off once in a while, or things are going to be not good here. "Fred" wrote in message .. . Okay. Be that way. Happy camper, huh - try snow camping (G) Chaos - hope you get it under control. Fred On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 20:11:03 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: I don't want no blinkin gifts buddy.... Snarl. (how was that?) you do know of course that if I get to Jan 1, under 164 I am a total happy camper? But It would be nice to have some space. But heck, things are a little chaotic here in humid land, I dunno what will transpire. "Fred" wrote in message .. . Well, this morning was not as good as hoped. But you really have a great chance in about two weeks - we have our work "employee recognition breakfast" early the morning of WI. I will be dressed in jacket, tie, slacks, etc and will have breakfast and then head to WI! Not a great situtation unless I can sit with 300 others eating breakfast and NOT eat breakfast! But maybe it is time to just let you have it as I would really hate to be the one to drive you to desparation. Besides, some others are now giving you a run for the money. On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 12:45:52 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: Ah haha. You better be prepared to weigh in shorts I am having a very good week over here. "Fred" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 17:54:18 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: What did you do with your NEW body while you were rollin around in the snow with the OLD one? Or whats her name? would be the other smart a comment to Ah, the ol' "I did not wake up grumpy, I let her sleep!" (G) Actually, the new body must be in pretty good shape - I remember doing this trip last year and struggling a bit more. I was surprised at how early it was when I stopped for my SECOND lunch (G) Leaving on these trips early - one tends to snack somewhere around 10am with the first lunch and then eat again around noon. that one. I am on a major roll this week feeling SOOOO renewed after living through turkey day and ending up with my scale saying 159 again. I am gonna be hard to beat this week, unless you kept some of your fabulous recent loss......... I do hope I can disappoint you!!! I seem to be holding reasonably well (fingers crossed). Maybe thanksgiving and awful pies helps!!! (G) But clearly this means that I cannot weighin in full regalia. It will be your fault as I shiver in shorts. (g) La "Fred" wrote in message .. . Well, ahem, within reason. (G) Dragged the OLD body out on a snowshoe trip yesterday. Glorious in the mountains but the snow was definitely not my definition of skiable. On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 19:58:06 +1300, Erin Marsh wrote: On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:34:57 -0800, Fred wrote: Okay, that is it!!!! (G) Aw, c'mon Fred. Admit it, you're loving the attention ;-) |
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Fred,
Unfortunately the papers went out with the recyclables that were collected this morning. I think the article said the fire hydrant was placed there after Sept 11. I am not sure if it would be on the net or not. I checked the archives at the local paper and apparently this was not worthy enough of being there. They did say it was a dangerous walk, but was also in there that there are people that are trying to restore/reroute the trail so it would be more easily accessible. Debbie "Fred" wrote in message ... Oh, that stupid peak that started out with a mail box (I had mail up there for ages, apparently, but never made it). And now has a full extension ladder and a real and HEAVY fire hydrant? No one quite knows how the hydrant got up there (unless your article says) since it is cast iron and very weighty. A friend has always said it is too steep and might lead to injuries whereas other friends have challenged me to do it. Being stubborn, I do what I want - and am saving my knees. Wonder if the article is on the web? A friend sent me photos of the junk collection up there (G) On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:16:36 -0800, "Deb in Northern California" wrote: Hey Fred, I was reading and article in the travel section of my newspaper yesterday and was wondering if you have ever been to Mailbox Peak in Washington, apparently it is in the mountains outside of the Seattle area. I thought of you when reading it. Debbie "Fred" wrote in message .. . Well, ahem, within reason. (G) Dragged the OLD body out on a snowshoe trip yesterday. Glorious in the mountains but the snow was definitely not my definition of skiable. On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 19:58:06 +1300, Erin Marsh wrote: On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:34:57 -0800, Fred wrote: Okay, that is it!!!! (G) Aw, c'mon Fred. Admit it, you're loving the attention ;-) |
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That was the exact article.
Debbie "Fred" wrote in message ... If anybody is interested, here's a link with a photo: http://www.thehollandsentinel.net/st...52903036.shtml I guess the ladder was not up there yet. On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:16:36 -0800, "Deb in Northern California" wrote: Hey Fred, I was reading and article in the travel section of my newspaper yesterday and was wondering if you have ever been to Mailbox Peak in Washington, apparently it is in the mountains outside of the Seattle area. I thought of you when reading it. Debbie "Fred" wrote in message .. . Well, ahem, within reason. (G) Dragged the OLD body out on a snowshoe trip yesterday. Glorious in the mountains but the snow was definitely not my definition of skiable. On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 19:58:06 +1300, Erin Marsh wrote: On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:34:57 -0800, Fred wrote: Okay, that is it!!!! (G) Aw, c'mon Fred. Admit it, you're loving the attention ;-) |
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nyny not too bad
brock, brock, sounds of chicken feathers rustling... Lee
Fred wrote in message ... (more silence) On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 14:37:50 GMT, "Miss Violette" wrote: just exactly what are you letting her have, and are you sure she wants it??? Lee, losing total control Fred wrote in message .. . Well, this morning was not as good as hoped. But you really have a great chance in about two weeks - we have our work "employee recognition breakfast" early the morning of WI. I will be dressed in jacket, tie, slacks, etc and will have breakfast and then head to WI! Not a great situtation unless I can sit with 300 others eating breakfast and NOT eat breakfast! But maybe it is time to just let you have it as I would really hate to be the one to drive you to desparation. Besides, some others are now giving you a run for the money. On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 12:45:52 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: Ah haha. You better be prepared to weigh in shorts I am having a very good week over here. "Fred" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 17:54:18 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: What did you do with your NEW body while you were rollin around in the snow with the OLD one? Or whats her name? would be the other smart a comment to Ah, the ol' "I did not wake up grumpy, I let her sleep!" (G) Actually, the new body must be in pretty good shape - I remember doing this trip last year and struggling a bit more. I was surprised at how early it was when I stopped for my SECOND lunch (G) Leaving on these trips early - one tends to snack somewhere around 10am with the first lunch and then eat again around noon. that one. I am on a major roll this week feeling SOOOO renewed after living through turkey day and ending up with my scale saying 159 again. I am gonna be hard to beat this week, unless you kept some of your fabulous recent loss......... I do hope I can disappoint you!!! I seem to be holding reasonably well (fingers crossed). Maybe thanksgiving and awful pies helps!!! (G) But clearly this means that I cannot weighin in full regalia. It will be your fault as I shiver in shorts. (g) La "Fred" wrote in message .. . Well, ahem, within reason. (G) Dragged the OLD body out on a snowshoe trip yesterday. Glorious in the mountains but the snow was definitely not my definition of skiable. On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 19:58:06 +1300, Erin Marsh wrote: On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:34:57 -0800, Fred wrote: Okay, that is it!!!! (G) Aw, c'mon Fred. Admit it, you're loving the attention ;-) |
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thanks Debbie. We have not found one here that would be okay for her, but I
have gotten some numbers for some people who will come here for the day. "Deb in Northern California" wrote in message ... I am not sure if you have this in your area or not, but when my dad was not doing well and mom needed a break, they had an adult day care place that was ran by the city I think. They would pick him up in the van and take him for the day and then return him that afternoon. He was normally gone from about 9-3, but that was a nice break for mom to be able to go grocery shopping and get her hair done and spend some time without having to constantly watch dad. I think they had activities, and exercise and lunch served, I know dad could never comment on how he liked it or not, but he seemed happy when he returned and it was good for him to interact with others besides mom. Debbie "Lesanne" wrote in message news oh hoo boy. She would really pitch a fit. She pitches a fit when I am out of her sight for an afternoon. I do have a line on a lady who helps a friend of mine who had a stroke. This lady will come and stay here if I want to take off for some reason. The homes/facilities in this area are really not good. As a nurse, I know. Horror stories. When I worked the med/surg floor at the local hospital they would come in with all kinds of problems that we knew were caused by the environment. "Joyce" wrote in message ... Do you have any homes/facilities in your area that you could place your mom for just a few days? We have a few near me, my uncle used them occassionally for his wife. He had no one that could come into his home to stay with her for extended periods, and she was unable to care for herself at all. His choice was to give up his life totally (which he was more than willing to do) or seek out alternatives (at our prodding). After the first 3 day week-end away, he found that she was very well cared for, contented ... and he was much more relaxed. After that he forced himself to do it twice a year - and was able to what he really enjoyed and missed ... old army type conventions. Joyce On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 13:17:50 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: Oh the bliss envisioned by a mental picture of me, the tent, the space, the silence, the Lack of anyone, anywhere..... We are having some trouble in paradise here with my daughter that has me a bit freaked. I so want to run away from home. I gotta find some help with the home caregiving thing so I can take off once in a while, or things are going to be not good here. "Fred" wrote in message .. . Okay. Be that way. Happy camper, huh - try snow camping (G) Chaos - hope you get it under control. Fred On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 20:11:03 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: I don't want no blinkin gifts buddy.... Snarl. (how was that?) you do know of course that if I get to Jan 1, under 164 I am a total happy camper? But It would be nice to have some space. But heck, things are a little chaotic here in humid land, I dunno what will transpire. "Fred" wrote in message .. . Well, this morning was not as good as hoped. But you really have a great chance in about two weeks - we have our work "employee recognition breakfast" early the morning of WI. I will be dressed in jacket, tie, slacks, etc and will have breakfast and then head to WI! Not a great situtation unless I can sit with 300 others eating breakfast and NOT eat breakfast! But maybe it is time to just let you have it as I would really hate to be the one to drive you to desparation. Besides, some others are now giving you a run for the money. On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 12:45:52 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: Ah haha. You better be prepared to weigh in shorts I am having a very good week over here. "Fred" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 17:54:18 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: What did you do with your NEW body while you were rollin around in the snow with the OLD one? Or whats her name? would be the other smart a comment to Ah, the ol' "I did not wake up grumpy, I let her sleep!" (G) Actually, the new body must be in pretty good shape - I remember doing this trip last year and struggling a bit more. I was surprised at how early it was when I stopped for my SECOND lunch (G) Leaving on these trips early - one tends to snack somewhere around 10am with the first lunch and then eat again around noon. that one. I am on a major roll this week feeling SOOOO renewed after living through turkey day and ending up with my scale saying 159 again. I am gonna be hard to beat this week, unless you kept some of your fabulous recent loss......... I do hope I can disappoint you!!! I seem to be holding reasonably well (fingers crossed). Maybe thanksgiving and awful pies helps!!! (G) But clearly this means that I cannot weighin in full regalia. It will be your fault as I shiver in shorts. (g) La "Fred" wrote in message .. . Well, ahem, within reason. (G) Dragged the OLD body out on a snowshoe trip yesterday. Glorious in the mountains but the snow was definitely not my definition of skiable. On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 19:58:06 +1300, Erin Marsh wrote: On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:34:57 -0800, Fred wrote: Okay, that is it!!!! (G) Aw, c'mon Fred. Admit it, you're loving the attention ;-) |
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I forgot, my mom went to a place like that about 3 days a week for a
year or so. I think that she did enjoy it. On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:43:05 -0800, "Deb in Northern California" wrote: I am not sure if you have this in your area or not, but when my dad was not doing well and mom needed a break, they had an adult day care place that was ran by the city I think. They would pick him up in the van and take him for the day and then return him that afternoon. He was normally gone from about 9-3, but that was a nice break for mom to be able to go grocery shopping and get her hair done and spend some time without having to constantly watch dad. I think they had activities, and exercise and lunch served, I know dad could never comment on how he liked it or not, but he seemed happy when he returned and it was good for him to interact with others besides mom. Debbie "Lesanne" wrote in message news oh hoo boy. She would really pitch a fit. She pitches a fit when I am out of her sight for an afternoon. I do have a line on a lady who helps a friend of mine who had a stroke. This lady will come and stay here if I want to take off for some reason. The homes/facilities in this area are really not good. As a nurse, I know. Horror stories. When I worked the med/surg floor at the local hospital they would come in with all kinds of problems that we knew were caused by the environment. "Joyce" wrote in message ... Do you have any homes/facilities in your area that you could place your mom for just a few days? We have a few near me, my uncle used them occassionally for his wife. He had no one that could come into his home to stay with her for extended periods, and she was unable to care for herself at all. His choice was to give up his life totally (which he was more than willing to do) or seek out alternatives (at our prodding). After the first 3 day week-end away, he found that she was very well cared for, contented ... and he was much more relaxed. After that he forced himself to do it twice a year - and was able to what he really enjoyed and missed ... old army type conventions. Joyce On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 13:17:50 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: Oh the bliss envisioned by a mental picture of me, the tent, the space, the silence, the Lack of anyone, anywhere..... We are having some trouble in paradise here with my daughter that has me a bit freaked. I so want to run away from home. I gotta find some help with the home caregiving thing so I can take off once in a while, or things are going to be not good here. "Fred" wrote in message .. . Okay. Be that way. Happy camper, huh - try snow camping (G) Chaos - hope you get it under control. Fred On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 20:11:03 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: I don't want no blinkin gifts buddy.... Snarl. (how was that?) you do know of course that if I get to Jan 1, under 164 I am a total happy camper? But It would be nice to have some space. But heck, things are a little chaotic here in humid land, I dunno what will transpire. "Fred" wrote in message .. . Well, this morning was not as good as hoped. But you really have a great chance in about two weeks - we have our work "employee recognition breakfast" early the morning of WI. I will be dressed in jacket, tie, slacks, etc and will have breakfast and then head to WI! Not a great situtation unless I can sit with 300 others eating breakfast and NOT eat breakfast! But maybe it is time to just let you have it as I would really hate to be the one to drive you to desparation. Besides, some others are now giving you a run for the money. On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 12:45:52 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: Ah haha. You better be prepared to weigh in shorts I am having a very good week over here. "Fred" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 17:54:18 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: What did you do with your NEW body while you were rollin around in the snow with the OLD one? Or whats her name? would be the other smart a comment to Ah, the ol' "I did not wake up grumpy, I let her sleep!" (G) Actually, the new body must be in pretty good shape - I remember doing this trip last year and struggling a bit more. I was surprised at how early it was when I stopped for my SECOND lunch (G) Leaving on these trips early - one tends to snack somewhere around 10am with the first lunch and then eat again around noon. that one. I am on a major roll this week feeling SOOOO renewed after living through turkey day and ending up with my scale saying 159 again. I am gonna be hard to beat this week, unless you kept some of your fabulous recent loss......... I do hope I can disappoint you!!! I seem to be holding reasonably well (fingers crossed). Maybe thanksgiving and awful pies helps!!! (G) But clearly this means that I cannot weighin in full regalia. It will be your fault as I shiver in shorts. (g) La "Fred" wrote in message .. . Well, ahem, within reason. (G) Dragged the OLD body out on a snowshoe trip yesterday. Glorious in the mountains but the snow was definitely not my definition of skiable. On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 19:58:06 +1300, Erin Marsh wrote: On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:34:57 -0800, Fred wrote: Okay, that is it!!!! (G) Aw, c'mon Fred. Admit it, you're loving the attention ;-) |
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